subject:"Re\: Latest iTunes"

RE: latest itunes update

2019-10-01 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Wui,

Then you should be notified of any updates to either Safari or iTunes.  If not, 
then in System Preferences, go to Software Update, and check for updates.

Mark

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From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: latest itunes update

I am using I tunes on a mac

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Wui,
> 
> If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, 
> in your preferred browser, go to https://www.apple.com/itunes/.
> 
> It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
> while the application is running.
> 
> Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
> current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
> of iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: latest itunes update
> 
> Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I 
> tunes program
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
>> 
>> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
>> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog 
>> box to download and install the update.
>> 
>> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
>> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
>> have to download the update.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Anthony Borg
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
>> To: Anthony Borg 
>> Subject: latest itunes update
>> 
>> Hi listers
>> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the 
>> latest itunes to allow me to do so first. 
>> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>> 
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Re: latest itunes update

2019-10-01 Thread 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone

I am using I tunes on a mac

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Wui,
> 
> If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, in your 
> preferred browser, go to 
> https://www.apple.com/itunes/.
> 
> It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
> while the application is running.
> 
> Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
> current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
> of iTunes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: latest itunes update
> 
> Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes 
> program
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
>> 
>> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
>> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog 
>> box to download and install the update.
>> 
>> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
>> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
>> have to download the update.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anthony Borg
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
>> To: Anthony Borg 
>> Subject: latest itunes update
>> 
>> Hi listers
>> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the 
>> latest itunes to allow me to do so first. 
>> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony 
>> 
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RE: latest itunes update

2019-10-01 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Wui,

If you wish to install the latest version of iTunes on a Windows PC, in your 
preferred browser, go to 
https://www.apple.com/itunes/.

It is always better to install iTunes from a fresh copy rather than doing so 
while the application is running.

Note to those using the enterprise, non-supported version of iTunes.  Your 
current install will support iOS 13.x so there is no need to update your copy 
of iTunes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes update

Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes program

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
> to download and install the update.
> 
> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
> have to download the update.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
> To: Anthony Borg 
> Subject: latest itunes update
> 
> Hi listers
> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
> itunes to allow me to do so first. 
> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony 
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Re: latest itunes update

2019-10-01 Thread 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone

Does any one know where I can find the update of I tunes in the I tunes program

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
> 
> If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
> that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
> to download and install the update.
> 
> When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
> automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you 
> have to download the update.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
> To: Anthony Borg 
> Subject: latest itunes update
> 
> Hi listers
> When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
> itunes to allow me to do so first. 
> Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony 
> 
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RE: latest itunes update

2019-10-01 Thread Rob Armstrong

If you open iTunes on your PC or Mac, you will most likely get a dialog box 
that says a new version is available.  There will be a link in the dialog box 
to download and install the update.

When you press the space bar or Enter on the download button it may 
automatically do everything.  Or it may take you to the web site where you have 
to download the update.

Rob

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 3:13 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: latest itunes update

Hi listers
When I tried to do the latest ios update, I was asked to update to the latest 
itunes to allow me to do so first. 
Could anyone explain to me how I can update the latest itunes? 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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Re: Latest ITunes doesn't sound the tri-tone as before

2018-05-01 Thread Daniel McGee

Not sure if this will help but have you told your iOS device that you want to 
trust this computer upon connecting by usb? 

> On 2 May 2018, at 03:40, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Running ITunes's latest, you know how when you connected your phone or 
> I-device, upon synching, ITunes would alert you via the tri-tone? What 
> setting would I need to change for it to resume this behavior I wonder? Or is 
> this a bug in ITunes's latest 12.7 on Windows?
> 
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RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

2016-12-16 Thread Rose Combs

Once they started the 12 series of iTunes it has been horrible in my opinion.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

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RE: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

2016-12-16 Thread Larry Lumpkin

The newest itunes update didn’t do much for me either.  I can use it but I 
think its functionality is very poor.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry White
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Latest iTunes update and Jaws 18

 

After the latest update to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC, I cannot use iTunes at 
all!  Is anyone else having this problem?  When I open iTunes, Jaws reads the 
selection that is selected when the program opens.  Any key I hit now keeps 
giving me a "invalid script call to " whatever key I press.  If I press the tab 
key, then Jaws says "Invalid script call to the tab key", and then it spells 
out "the tab key".  Anyone else having this problem?  Also, iTunes doesn't open 
when I connect my iPhone anymore, but my iPhone 6 says it is charging, so I 
know the cable is ok.  I get the above error in iTunes even if I open iTunes 
when my phone isn't connected.  Any thoughts?

 

I did have Blind Tunes installed, and I tried uninstalling them to see if they 
were conflicting somehow, but no luck!

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Jerry

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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-04 Thread Gordan Radić


  
  
What about Blind Tunes Jaws scripts?
Some time ago it was free than it started to cost about 5 bucks
  and I didn't heard about it in a while.



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2.9.2016. u 15:55, Russ Kiehne je
  napisao/la:

That I can't say.  I do know there are third party
  itunes replacements but they are not accessible.
  
  
  -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:36 PM
  
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  Subject: Re: latest itunes
  
  
  Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications
  for
  
  their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a
  fee
  
  to acquire and use such specifications?
  
  
  On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:
  
  I just wished a third party Software
developer would come out with a

itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!


*From:* Gordan Radić

*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: latest itunes



Hi!


I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the
topic

thread.


I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are
responsible for

how will their respective products will interact with different
kindsof

software on Windows compatible PCs.


However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software

developers have the means and ability to make their apps more
simple,

more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the
screen

readers can use the most of the app interface with no further
adjusting,

making scripts, set files or external modules.


iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and
graphically

furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short,
iTunes is

just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing
more

nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.


Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind
of tree

view with various categories and the right side with options,
settings

and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like
Winamp

Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and
usable

to the core.


OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which
is true

and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but
similar

dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and
still

are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of
Utorrent,

Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind
of

interface.


If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have
a

better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who
should know it.




S poštovanjem

*Gordan Radić*


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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but
  others have pointed out on this
  
  list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the
  responsibility of
  
  the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility
  specifications,
  
  so it's up to the app developer to follow those
  specifications. The
  
  same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an
  application for
  
  Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to
  make your
  
  application accessible.
  
  
  This is also one of the reasons

Re: latest itunes

2016-09-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I looked at Media Monkey a while ago, and unfortunately it wasn't 
accessible. That was a while ago, so maybe things have improved.


On 02/09/16 04:48, Gordan Radić wrote:

OK, I maybe made things simpler than they are but App Store, podcasts
and some other parts could be easier to use and navigate.

In the times when iTunes were "accessible", I'm quoting this for reason,
it wasn't usable at all. Making ten, fifteen or twenty tabs to get to
desired element or speech lags between keystrokes were everything but
ussable for everyday use. If something is accessible it doesn't mean it
is practical. I could never use iTunes on my PC as default player and
Windows Media Player or Winamp, even Foobar 2000 are far better solutions.

Speaking of iTunes replacements, there is something called Media Monkey
which some of my sighted friends use for copying media and ringtones to
iPhone but I don't know how accessible it is.There were also something
called iTools but it was partly accessible and needed lots of cursor
routing.



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2.9.2016. u 3:43, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I agree with what you say below except that i Tunes is much more than
just a player that let's you sync your media content with your device.
It also manages your media, let's you access streaming content and
purchase content from the i Tunes store. Personally, I'd rather see
some of these functions broken out into simpler more straight forward
applications.

On 01/09/16 05:43, Gordan Radić wrote:

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should
know it.


S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija 

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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of
Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with
Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they

Re: latest itunes

2016-09-02 Thread Russ Kiehne

That I can't say.  I do know there are third party itunes replacements but 
they are not accessible.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes

Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications for
their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a fee
to acquire and use such specifications?

On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a
itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!

*From:* Gordan Radić
*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: latest itunes

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know 
it.

S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić*

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org>

Pišite nam Posjetitenas na Facebooku
<http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> Pratite nas na Twitteru
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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.

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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-02 Thread Gordan Radić


  
  
OK, I maybe made things simpler than they are but App Store,
  podcasts and some other parts could be easier to use and navigate.
In the times when iTunes were "accessible", I'm quoting this for
  reason, it wasn't usable at all. Making ten, fifteen or twenty
  tabs to get to desired element or speech lags between keystrokes
  were everything but ussable for everyday use. If something is
  accessible it doesn't mean it is practical. I could never use
  iTunes on my PC as default player and Windows Media Player or
  Winamp, even Foobar 2000 are far better solutions.
Speaking of iTunes replacements, there is something called Media
  Monkey which some of my sighted friends use for copying media and
  ringtones to iPhone but I don't know how accessible it is.There
  were also something called iTools but it was partly accessible and
  needed lots of cursor routing.





  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

2.9.2016. u 3:43, Christopher Chaltain
  je napisao/la:

I agree with what you say below except that i Tunes is
  much more than just a player that let's you sync your media
  content with your device. It also manages your media, let's you
  access streaming content and purchase content from the i Tunes
  store. Personally, I'd rather see some of these functions broken
  out into simpler more straight forward applications.
  
  
  On 01/09/16 05:43, Gordan Radić wrote:
  
  Hi!


I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the
topic

thread.


I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are
responsible for

how will their respective products will interact with different
kindsof

software on Windows compatible PCs.


However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software

developers have the means and ability to make their apps more
simple,

more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the
screen

readers can use the most of the app interface with no further
adjusting,

making scripts, set files or external modules.


iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and
graphically

furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short,
iTunes is

just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing
more

nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.


Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind
of tree

view with various categories and the right side with options,
settings

and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like
Winamp

Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and
usable

to the core.


OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which
is true

and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but
similar

dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and
still

are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of
Utorrent,

Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind
of

interface.


If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have
a

better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who
should know it.



S poštovanjem

*Gordan Radić* 


Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija 


Pišite nam  Posjetitenas na
Facebooku

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Twitteru




1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but
  others have pointed out on this
  
  list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the
  responsibility of
  
  the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility
  specifications,
  
  so it's up to the app developer to follow those
  specifications. The
  
  same reasoning would apply

Re: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I agree with what you say below except that i Tunes is much more than 
just a player that let's you sync your media content with your device. 
It also manages your media, let's you access streaming content and 
purchase content from the i Tunes store. Personally, I'd rather see some 
of these functions broken out into simpler more straight forward 
applications.


On 01/09/16 05:43, Gordan Radić wrote:

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.


S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija 

Pišite nam Posjetitenas na Facebooku
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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Is this possible? Does Apple release the interface specifications for 
their devices? If so, are these free or do you have to pay Apple a fee 
to acquire and use such specifications?


On 01/09/16 08:50, Russ Kiehne wrote:

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a
itunes replacement that would be fully accessible!

*From:* Gordan Radić
*Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: latest itunes


Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic
thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for
how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof
software on Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple,
more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen
readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting,
making scripts, set files or external modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is
just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more
nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree
view with various categories and the right side with options, settings
and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp
Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable
to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true
and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar
dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still
are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent,
Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of
interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a
better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.



S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić*

Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org>

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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications,
so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The
same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for
Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your
application accessible.

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested
party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or
not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their
application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen
reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Russ Kiehne

If so, I sure would buy it.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: latest itunes

We might see if Christopher Toth might write something like q-tunes to go with 
his other q products (q-read, q-feed, q-cast).

.

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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:51 AM
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Subject: Re: latest itunes

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

From: Gordan Radić 

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: latest itunes

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.

S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

  I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list 
that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there 
worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a 
priority can it be for a company to make their application accessible on a 
competitors platform or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a 
competitors application accessible? 

  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 

Regards, 

Sieghard 

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*Subject:* latest itunes 

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 

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RE: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Larry Lumpkin

We might see if Christopher Toth might write something like q-tunes to go with 
his other q products (q-read, q-feed, q-cast).

 

.

 

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Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

 

From: Gordan Radić 

Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: latest itunes

 

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.

 

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1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list that 
the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen reader 
developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there worrying 
about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a priority can it 
be for a company to make their application accessible on a competitors platform 
or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a competitors 
application accessible? 

On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 



Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 





Regards, 

Sieghard 



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*Subject:* latest itunes 



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 



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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Russ Kiehne

I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes 
replacement that would be fully accessible!

From: Gordan Radić 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: latest itunes

Hi!

I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread.

I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will 
their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on 
Windows compatible PCs.

However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers 
have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and 
more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the 
app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external 
modules.

iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished 
than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player 
with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it 
could be much, much simpler than it is.

Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view 
with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls 
for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or 
Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core.

OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it 
is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found 
in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right 
now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there 
are tones of apps with this kind of interface.

If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better 
chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it.

S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:

  I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list 
that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app 
developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the 
app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to 
a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of 
information on how to make your application accessible. 

  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there 
worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a 
priority can it be for a company to make their application accessible on a 
competitors platform or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a 
competitors application accessible? 

  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: 

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or 
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and 
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple 
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple 
needs to do so that they can do what they must do. 

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I 
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually 
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are 
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their 
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to 
accessibility and not a reduction. 

Regards, 

Sieghard 

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Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin 
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* latest itunes 

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked 
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, 
it’s their problem. 

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Re: latest itunes

2016-09-01 Thread Gordan Radić


  
  
Hi!
I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the
  topic thread.
I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are
  responsible for how will their respective products will interact
  with different kindsof software on Windows compatible PCs.
However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software
  developers have the means and ability to make their apps more
  simple, more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the
  screen readers can use the most of the app interface with no
  further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external modules.
iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically
  furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short,
  iTunes is just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices,
  nothing more nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than
  it is.
Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind
  of tree view with various categories and the right side with
  options, settings and controls for selected category. Tis can
  easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings
  Center, both accessible and usable to the core.
OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which
  is true and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be
  accessible but similar dialogs found in other apps are not screen
  reader supported and still are accessible. Right now I can think
  of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there
  are tones of apps with this kind of interface.
If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have
  a better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who
  should know it.



  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain
  je napisao/la:

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have
  pointed out on this list that the accessibility of App Store apps
  is the responsibility of the app developers. Apple publishes the
  accessibility specifications, so it's up to the app developer to
  follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to a
  developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also
  plenty of information on how to make your application accessible.
  
  
  This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party
  screen reader developer option. It means there's one more
  interested party out there worrying about whether I can access an
  application or not. How much of a priority can it be for a company
  to make their application accessible on a competitors platform or
  have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a competitors
  application accessible?
  
  
  On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
  
  Well, while it may not all be up to
Freedom Scientific or VFO or

whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of
Apple and

the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks
with Apple

about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what
Apple

needs to do so that they can do what they must do.


Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window
Eyes, but I

think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was
actually

working at least as good or better and now that both
screenreaders are

under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get
their

wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement
to

accessibility and not a reduction.






Regards,


Sieghard




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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* latest itunes




Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws? 
I talked

to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using
jaws,

it’s their problem.




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Re: latest itunes

2016-08-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this 
list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of 
the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so 
it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The same 
reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for Windows, 
where there's also plenty of information on how to make your application 
accessible.


This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen 
reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out 
there worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How 
much of a priority can it be for a company to make their application 
accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen reader jump 
through hoops to make a competitors application accessible?


On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or
whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and
the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple
about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple
needs to do so that they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I
think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually
working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are
under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their
wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to
accessibility and not a reduction.





Regards,

Sieghard



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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* latest itunes



Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked
to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws,
it’s their problem.



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RE: latest itunes

2016-08-31 Thread Larry Lumpkin

Very well put.  Thank you very much.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: latest itunes

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they 
are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and the screenreader 
makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple about iTunes 
accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple needs to do so that 
they can do what they must do.

Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I think 
for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually working at 
least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are under the same hat 
so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their wires crossed in a way that 
is going to result in an improvement to accessibility and not a reduction.

Regards,

Sieghard

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
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Subject: latest itunes

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked to 
apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, it’s their 
problem.

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RE: latest itunes

2016-08-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they 
are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and the screenreader 
makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple about iTunes 
accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple needs to do so that 
they can do what they must do.
Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I think 
for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually working at 
least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are under the same hat 
so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their wires crossed in a way that 
is going to result in an improvement to accessibility and not a reduction.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM
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Subject: latest itunes

Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws?  I talked to 
apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, it’s their 
problem.

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RE: latest itunes

2016-08-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Larry,

If you mean really accessible that would be iTunes 11, but the problem is that 
as far as I know you can’t use that any more with iOS 9 let alone the upcoming 
iOS 10.


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Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest itunes

Well, I know I hluldn’t’a done it.  Can someone point me to the last 
jaws-accessible version of itunes so I can download it?  Thanks.

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Re: Latest iTunes

2016-06-05 Thread Gary Petraccaro

One thing to bear in mind about filenames in iTunes.  The Windows names are 
truncated when you look at them in Windows Explorer.  This has held true since 
at least 2010.  Sometimes that's a factor.  Otherwise see my earlier message of 
a few minutes ago and thanks for this one.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

  Hi Gary,

  I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 
as my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the 
Apps area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could 
not tab forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the 
Update All button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and 
then use Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now 
in 12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, 
Jaws still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow 
around, you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what 
app it has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, 
then tab again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

  I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find 
using a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.

  Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.

  Regards,

  Sieghard

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

  I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro 

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

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Re: Latest iTunes

2016-06-05 Thread Gary Petraccaro

I'm dealing specifically with podcasts and I'm definitely not having your 
success.  My version of Window-Eyes is 9.1.
I did find out one of the reasons I had the problem I did with i a long 
conversion with Accessibility with an excellent advisor.  
In the tree view of podcasts, iTunes collapses the tree so that only the top 
item of any podcast shows.  Some of my 'casts have several shows to any given 
date.  Those additional shows were not showing at all.  
The advisor said to try 3 right arrows in succession.  I did and nothing 
happened.
Then she said to try a faster 3 right arrows.  That worked but with no sound or 
change of wording from the speaker.
Up and down cursor did show that the tree had expanded.
The same applied if I went left arrow 3 times quickly.  No voice 
acknowledgement but there was a change.
Without someone viewing the screen either from my end or on Apple's side, there 
would have been no way whatsoever that I would have known what was going on.
That qualifies as very bad design.
I have no idea where else it might rear its ugly head.

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  From: Afik Sofir 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Latest iTunes


  The latest update works very well with window-eyes, that’s for my expirence.

   

   

   

   

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Gary Petraccaro
  Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

   

  I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro 

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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RE: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

When the word “native” or “stock” is used in connection with an app it 
typically refers to one of the apps which are preinstalled on the iPhone and, 
which at this point can’t be deleted from the iPhone. These are apps like Mail, 
Clock, Calendar, Contacts, Wallet, Notes, Voice Memos etc. “Podcasts” is also 
one of these apps which means if you want a basic Podcasts app you can use it, 
some people like third-party apps like Downcast or Overcast which are probably 
the two most mentioned apps both on this list and also in Podcasts like the 
Today in iOS Podcast. I think Overcast is now free, Downcast I think is a 
couple of Dollars. I always used to like Downcast, but at one point started 
using Apple’s Podcasts app which is already on the iPhone as it does the trick 
for what I do. I have maybe 6 or 8 Podcasts I subscribe to and to which I 
listen to on a more or less regular bases. One thing I like with Podcast is the 
fact that it integrates with SIRI. This means I can say “Play the latest 
episode of the Today in iOS Podcast or while a Podcast is playing and there is 
a section which doesn’t interest me I can bring up SIRI and say “Skip 2 minutes 
and 30 seconds or even skip 7 minutes. Of course Podcast apps have buttons to 
skip by various time intervals, but by using SIRI I can make it any time 
interval I want from saying to rewind 8 seconds if I just missed something to 
whatever I want.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

Hi, Sieghard.
Is 'native Podcast' a name of the app?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

Hi Gary,

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.
Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: Russ Kiehne<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro<mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the show

RE: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Fazil

Hi, Sieghard.

Is 'native Podcast' a name of the app?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Latest iTunes

 

Hi Gary,

 

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

 

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.

Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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RE: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Gary,

I just downloaded iTunes 12.4.1 on my Windows 10 laptop where I use Jaws 17 as 
my screenreader. One thing that is slightly improved is when you go to the Apps 
area in iTunes. Before once you tabbed into the app grid view you could not tab 
forward to where Jaws would read the What’s New section or to the Update All 
button. Instead you had to go to the Search field with Control+F and then use 
Shift+Tab to go backwards until you came to the update all button. Now in 
12.4.1 Jaws again reads the What’s New and you can tab normally. However, Jaws 
still does not read the names of the apps in the grid view as you arrow around, 
you basically have to tab once past the grid view, then Jaws says what app it 
has focus on, you can then Shift+Tab, move the cursor right or left, then tab 
again to hear the name of that app and read the What’s New.

I don’t usually use iTunes to download or listen to Podcasts since I find using 
a Podcast client like the native Podcast app or Downcast is such a good 
experience. However, I just opened the Podcasts area and I guess at some point 
I had added the Today in iOS Podcast and Cool blind Tech and I was able to 
focus on one of these, then tab until I got a listing of episodes and I was 
able to arrow up and down in that list and so on.
Of course if you set it up so new episodes download to your computer you will 
have a “Podcasts” folder in your iTunes Media folder with subfolders for the 
various Podcasts and in each of them you will find all the episodes.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

- Original Message -
From: Russ Kiehne<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro<mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.
Good luck.

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RE: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Afik Sofir

The latest update works very well with window-eyes, that’s for my expirence.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Russ Kiehne <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM

Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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Re: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro

I hate giving any advice since I'm by no means a power user, but I would stay 
away from this update unless you know it works from having seen it on someone 
elses machine.  I've been fiddling around with it in the hope of understanding 
how to do what I want to do and I'm setting up another podcatcher because I've 
had no success at all.  I have tried both Window-Eyes and NVDA.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Russ Kiehne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 9:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

  Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any 
improvements for of us who use windows?
  Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

  From: Gary Petraccaro 
  Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Latest iTunes

  I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  
  Good luck.

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RE: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Afik Sofir

Hi,

 

Yes, the latest version is accessible to Windows.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest iTunes

 

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?

Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

 

From: Gary Petraccaro <mailto:garypet...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Latest iTunes

 

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  

Good luck.

 

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Re: Latest iTunes

2016-06-04 Thread Russ Kiehne

Did you know about the following?  I wonder if there have been any improvements 
for of us who use windows?
Apple Releases iTunes 12.4.1 with Bug Fixes for VoiceOver Users

From: Gary Petraccaro 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Latest iTunes

I've been downloading podcasts with iTunes since the last version of 11 and 
versions up to the latest update.  As far as I can tell, Apple has made it 
impossible now to download podcasts without considerably more discomfort.  I 
cannot find a way to collapse and expand particular podcasts for convenience of 
getting from show to show and now the dates of the shows are harder to find.  
Where I used to be able to get the latest several numbers of the Blind Bargains 
shows for a couple of weeks and dump them on a card for playing on a stream, 
they no longer show up show by show.  If there's a way to rearrange this, I'll 
be happy to hear it.  
Good luck.

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Re: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

2015-10-30 Thread Shai

Hi,
Another item you might try is to have your iPhone screen unlocked if
you have a passcode. In my experience, I found that iTunes would not
sync despite the fact that it was set to trust my computer and Windows
made the sound that my phone was recognized.
I had this issue before on the 5s and since then keep my 6s this way
and notice that all is fine when I go to sync.

On 10/30/15, Don Risavy, Jr.  wrote:
> Wondered if anyone has any problems or issues syncing their IPhone 6 etc.
> with the latest ITunes as can't figure out why am not able to do so using
> the proper usb cable like have done in the past as ITunes doesn't even
> recognize my phone when connected via usb and the usb ports work just fine
> as am able to know it's connected by the windows 10 sound that alert me and
> can print from the usb ports too.  So can't figure out what's causing this.
> So unless someone has an answer might uninstall and reinstall ITunes over
> the weekend to see if fixes the problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

2015-10-30 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Don,

Did you just install Windows 10?  If so, you may have to have your iPhone Trust 
the computer, again.  

There are several things that may not be working correctly depending upon how 
you upgraded to Windows 10.  

The first thing I recommend, however, is to try to connect using a different 
USB cable.  I know it sounds far-fetched, but give it a try, before you 
reinstall iTunes.  Also, should you decide to reinstall iTunes, as Apple 
recommends, be certain to remove all of the Apple components from your PC, 
first. While this is not absolutely necessary, I have found it yields the best 
results.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:23 AM
To: 'VIPhone'
Subject: Latest ITunes with IPhone 6

Wondered if anyone has any problems or issues syncing their IPhone 6 etc. with 
the latest ITunes as can’t figure out why am not able to do so using the proper 
usb cable like have done in the past as ITunes doesn’t even recognize my phone 
when connected via usb and the usb ports work just fine as am able to know it’s 
connected by the windows 10 sound that alert me and can print from the usb 
ports too.  So can’t figure out what’s causing this.  So unless someone has an 
answer might uninstall and reinstall ITunes over the weekend to see if fixes 
the problem.
Thanks.



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Re: latest iTunes

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain


It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums 
button. In the dialog that pops up, I can tab over to a list and then I 
can arrow up and down to select songs, albums, artists and so on. Once 
an option is selected you can continue tabbing to set the sort options. 
Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close 
the dialog and bring up the desired view.


On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:

I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
catagory from album to song, help!!!

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Re: latest iTunes

2015-04-13 Thread Robert Doc wright

I am running windows 7 home premium and jaws 16

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: latest iTunes

It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums
button. In the dialog that pops up, I can tab over to a list and then I
can arrow up and down to select songs, albums, artists and so on. Once
an option is selected you can continue tabbing to set the sort options.
Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close
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On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:

I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
catagory from album to song, help!!!

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RE: latest iTunes

2015-04-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

When you are on the button that says Album, activate it by pressing the 
spacebar, then tab into the listview of available options, arrow to Song and 
press enter.


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I am running windows 7 home premium and jaws 16

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: latest iTunes


It would help knowing what operating system and screen reader you're using.

Using NVDA on my Windows 7 system, I tap the space bar on the albums
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Just back tab to the list and hit enter on the view you want to close
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On 04/13/2015 12:43 PM, Robert Doc wright wrote:
 I am in the music section and cannot figure out how to change the
 catagory from album to song, help!!!

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Re: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS

2015-03-13 Thread Bryan Schulz


hi,

so is that v12.3?
Bryan Schulz


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Hello, everyone. Last night I installed the latest version of iTunes, and it
seems to work much better with JAWS. I have the latest version of JAWS on a
Windows 7 computer. I don't know if all of iTunes' features work, but the
radio tuner now works flawlessly, as it did before. I hope this is helpful
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RE: Latest iTunes 12 Works with JAWS

2015-03-13 Thread Larry Lumpkin

12.1.1


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hi,

so is that v12.3?
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Re: latest itunes and playlist sync problem

2014-10-12 Thread Russ Kiehne

Here’s what I do.

after cconnecting the ipod touch and before arrowing down to devices I do the 
following:
in the file menu, arrow down to library and press enter.
In the library menu arrow down to import playlist and press enter.
Now you get the option to browse to the playlist you want to import.
Select the playlist you want to import and press enter.


From: Fanus 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:43 AM
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Subject: latest itunes and playlist sync problem

Hello list
How does one sync playlist with the latest itunes? In the past I created the 
playlist on the pc, connected my ipod, downarrow to devices and then tab and 
select music and then I tabbed to selected playlists and checked that and on 
the list of playlists I checked what to download to my ipod and then tabbed to 
apply and enter. Now when I select music and tab I just get the capacity of the 
ipod, info about the music and free space but nothing about the list of 
playlists. Has something changed in the latest itunes?
Regards
Fanus





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