Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
I am using the compact voice. I will try with the premium voice and see if it changes anything. I never considered this possible variable when trouble shooting. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 7:24 AM, "Ricardo Walker" wrote: > Hi, > > one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since > getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't > gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the > compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of >> you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is >> set very fast. >> >> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >> >> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of >> the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >> >> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate >> set to just 40%. >> >> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a >> more moderate level say, 60% or less? >> >> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the >> issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, >> but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem >> to have in common. >> >> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >> >> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being >> above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher >> having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in >> itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't >> addressed either. >> >> I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would >> go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. >> Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a >> contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this >> particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across >> various iPhone and iPad models. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I >> mean turn it off and back on again? >> >> I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. >> I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. >> >> Danielle >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> wrote: >> >>> Danielle, >>> >>> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to >> screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps >> running at the time etc. &
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
The only way speech comes back without waiting is to restart the phone. On very rare occasions, after no more than ten seconds, which ever app I happen to be using closes, I am back at the home screen and speech is working. The change in speech rate didn't affect the frequency. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 PM, "James Mannion" wrote: > I think it would be helpful to know if you are able to determine, did > the slower rate change the issue any, I.E. did the speech come back > any more quickly? Also, have you found any way that you use to regain > speech when it happens other than wait 60 to 90 seconds or longer? > > Jim > > > On 5/9/12, Damshe Thomas wrote: >> I have been experiencing the same loss of speech. Initially, I was using >> speech at 100 percent. The same thought occurred to me so I reduced my >> speech rate to sixty percent. Sixty percent didn't solve the issue so I >> tried fifty percent and have continued to encounter the problem. I went as >> far as reseting my phone and maintaining speech rate of sixty percent. For >> me, the issue has persisted. Just reference, I am using an iPhone 4 and have >> experienced this loss of speech since 5.01 >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" >> wrote: >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those >>> of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth >>> speed is set very fast. >>> >>> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >>> >>> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of >>> the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >>> >>> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech >>> rate set to just 40%. >>> >>> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a >>> more moderate level say, 60% or less? >>> >>> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has >>> the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this >>> issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer >>> it seem to have in common. >>> >>> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> www.neilbarnfather.com >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being >>> above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher >>> having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that >>> in >>> itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't >>> addressed either. >>> >>> I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I >>> would >>> go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. >>> Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a >>> contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this >>> particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across >>> various iPhone and iPad models. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I >>> mean turn it off and back on again? >>> >>> I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @ne
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
hi what are the differences between the compact and premium voices and how might i switch between them thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate > being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app > switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off > and on, that in itself could and should be considered as a major bug > that Apple hasn't addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I > would go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really > a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced > this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations > across various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle > daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily >> relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this >> for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if > the issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings >> occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my beli
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
To use the HQ voice turn use compact off. Christopher Hallsworth On 11/05/2012 02:17, paul and paula jordan wrote: Okay, now is the compact voice the high quality premium voice, or should it be turned off? Sorry, still fairly new at all this. God bless! Paula and babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristobal Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Settings, general, Accessibility, Voiceover and scroll down and you'll see an option for either turning off or on the compact voice. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of paul and paula jordan Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Hi. Probably a dumb question, but how would I know if I have the high quality premium voice? Just wondering. I've had none of the voice over voice stopping described, but am still running ios5. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Ricardo, good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. which of course all ties into my point about speed. those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice synth, as it does not scale as well. so, you have a good point here. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Chris, In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate set to just 40%. Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't addressed either. I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across various iPhone and iPad models. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Tal
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
compact is the lower quality. To use it, check the box. If you want the premium voice, leave it unchecked. Note, you need to be connected to wifi for the premium voiceo to actually download Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 10, 2012, at 9:17 PM, paul and paula jordan wrote: > Okay, now is the compact voice the high quality premium voice, or should it > be turned off? Sorry, still fairly new at all this. > God bless! > Paula and babe > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Cristobal > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:11 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug > > Settings, general, Accessibility, Voiceover and scroll down and you'll see > an option for either turning off or on the compact voice. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of paul and paula jordan > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug > > Hi. Probably a dumb question, but how would I know if I have the high > quality premium voice? > Just wondering. I've had none of the voice over voice stopping described, > but am still running ios5. > Thanks. > God bless! > Paula Jordan and Babe > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:59 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug > > Ricardo, > > good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. > > which of course all ties into my point about speed. > > those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice > synth, as it does not scale as well. > > so, you have a good point here. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since > getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't > gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the > compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this > bug. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, >> those > of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed > is set very fast. >> >> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >> >> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three >> versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >> >> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my >> speech > rate set to just 40%. >> >> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set >> at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? >> >> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who >> has > the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this > issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it > seem to have in common. >> >> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >> >> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate &
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Okay, now is the compact voice the high quality premium voice, or should it be turned off? Sorry, still fairly new at all this. God bless! Paula and babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristobal Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Settings, general, Accessibility, Voiceover and scroll down and you'll see an option for either turning off or on the compact voice. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of paul and paula jordan Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Hi. Probably a dumb question, but how would I know if I have the high quality premium voice? Just wondering. I've had none of the voice over voice stopping described, but am still running ios5. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Ricardo, good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. which of course all ties into my point about speed. those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice synth, as it does not scale as well. so, you have a good point here. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, > those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three > versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my > speech rate set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set > at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who > has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate > being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app > switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off > and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really > a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced > this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations > across various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > ev
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Settings, general, Accessibility, Voiceover and scroll down and you'll see an option for either turning off or on the compact voice. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of paul and paula jordan Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Hi. Probably a dumb question, but how would I know if I have the high quality premium voice? Just wondering. I've had none of the voice over voice stopping described, but am still running ios5. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Ricardo, good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. which of course all ties into my point about speed. those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice synth, as it does not scale as well. so, you have a good point here. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, > those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three > versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my > speech rate set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set > at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who > has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate > being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app > switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off > and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really > a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced > this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations > across various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle > daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Hi. Probably a dumb question, but how would I know if I have the high quality premium voice? Just wondering. I've had none of the voice over voice stopping described, but am still running ios5. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug Ricardo, good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. which of course all ties into my point about speed. those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice synth, as it does not scale as well. so, you have a good point here. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Daniell
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
So it's happened to me twice in 24 hours. I was about to email and agree but decided to slow speech first, only to discover it already at 50% instead of what I thought of as 65%. I reduxwd it to 40 but can no longer cope with that slow. I'm fairly certain I have hq American though being in uk Daniel might be hq Daniel by default. How do I check? I personally don't think that making the speed down for 48 hrs will be any use as its more sporadic than that. I'm also not sure that though it seems a long time that it is really as long as a minute or more. Sent from my iPhone On 10 May 2012, at 16:59, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Ricardo, > > good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. > > which of course all ties into my point about speed. > > those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice > synth, as it does not scale as well. > > so, you have a good point here. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since > getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't > gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the > compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Ricardo, good point, I'm also using the high quality premium voice. which of course all ties into my point about speed. those using higher speeds tend not to use the high quality premium voice synth, as it does not scale as well. so, you have a good point here. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 12:24, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Hi, one more thing. A friend of mine said she had this problem ever since getting her 4S. She recently upgrade to the premium voice, and it hasn't gone silent yet. I was wondering, are those having this issue using the compact or premium voice? I'm using premium, and never encountered this bug. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the > issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one > of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I > mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. >> >> >> Regards, >> >&
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Mario, do you clear your app switcher at least once a day and power cycle at least once daily? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 09:34, Mario Loreti wrote: I confirm that the problem happens also with speed at 40%. -- Iscriviti a Dropbox, il servizio per condividere i tuoi file gratis con uno spazio pari a 3500mb. Clicca: http://db.tt/W6C56gy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Dan, Do you clear your app switcher daily and power cycle after doing so? at least once a day? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 03:07, Damshe Thomas wrote: I have been experiencing the same loss of speech. Initially, I was using speech at 100 percent. The same thought occurred to me so I reduced my speech rate to sixty percent. Sixty percent didn't solve the issue so I tried fifty percent and have continued to encounter the problem. I went as far as reseting my phone and maintaining speech rate of sixty percent. For me, the issue has persisted. Just reference, I am using an iPhone 4 and have experienced this loss of speech since 5.01 Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the >
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
well this all goes to show that it could be what I say it is, we need a few control subjects who use the speed at 100% or at least more than 60%, and who have the issue, to reduce speed for say 48 hours or so and see if it occurred. I use my device at 40%, last night I upped it to 100%, and used it like that for about an hour or so. I rapidly swiped through news apps, switching to letter navigation etc, and swiping like mad. once, and only once, I got Voice Over to hang for about 10 seconds, this has never, ever happened before, and the only change I've made is the speed of my synth. I continued to swipe at my usual forotious rate. Now this is only one test, we need those of you who state you have the issue to drop your speed, just for a day or so, and see if the issue goes away. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 10 May 2012, at 01:50, Kevin Barry wrote: I use my 4s at 100% speech rate. The bug is still present and so far the only common denominator I've noticed is it seems to rear its ugly head when I'm rapidly swiping. Maybe others are just slower with there devices? At 04:45 PM 5/9/2012, you wrote: > just because the issue only began with iOS v5.0, this does not exclude it > being related to the speed of the synth. > > it maybe that previous coding of the OS allowed without issue the speed that > some users like, but, that coding in iOS v5.0 does not. > > I'm not saying that it is the speed issue, but, that it seems plausible, and > without anyone who has the issue, declaring that they have the issue, with > speed below 60% then we cannot rule it out. > > more over, we know that the iOS device continues to operate normally, only > the speech stops, leading me to consider it a synth specific issue. > > the people who have the issue, seem to have the speed set high, were as, > those who say they do not, seem to have it set at 50% or less. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 9 May 2012, at 18:04, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: > > If we're talking about the bug which started with ioos5 where vo and sounds > freeze and return after a while or once power down or screen locking. It > cannot be what you say. It only started with 5 but I function between 40 & > 60% speed. I have a 3GS running Samantha but I know of people using 4 & 4s on > Australian voice. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 May 2012, at 16:34, Ed Worrell wrote: > > > Hello all, I have my Voiceover rate set at 100% on an iPhone 4 and I am not > > having the issues of speech stoping for a minute or more. > > > > Ed > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > > Google Group. > > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because yo
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
I confirm that the problem happens also with speed at 40%. -- Iscriviti a Dropbox, il servizio per condividere i tuoi file gratis con uno spazio pari a 3500mb. Clicca: http://db.tt/W6C56gy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
I think it would be helpful to know if you are able to determine, did the slower rate change the issue any, I.E. did the speech come back any more quickly? Also, have you found any way that you use to regain speech when it happens other than wait 60 to 90 seconds or longer? Jim On 5/9/12, Damshe Thomas wrote: > I have been experiencing the same loss of speech. Initially, I was using > speech at 100 percent. The same thought occurred to me so I reduced my > speech rate to sixty percent. Sixty percent didn't solve the issue so I > tried fifty percent and have continued to encounter the problem. I went as > far as reseting my phone and maintaining speech rate of sixty percent. For > me, the issue has persisted. Just reference, I am using an iPhone 4 and have > experienced this loss of speech since 5.01 > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those >> of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth >> speed is set very fast. >> >> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >> >> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of >> the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >> >> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech >> rate set to just 40%. >> >> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a >> more moderate level say, 60% or less? >> >> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has >> the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this >> issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer >> it seem to have in common. >> >> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >> >> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being >> above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher >> having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that >> in >> itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't >> addressed either. >> >> I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I >> would >> go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. >> Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a >> contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this >> particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across >> various iPhone and iPad models. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I >> mean turn it off and back on again? >> >> I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. >> I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. >> >> Danielle >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> wrote: >> >>> Danielle, >>> >>> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue prim
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Neil, I completely agree with you that finding what is causing the problem should help the cause and it would be really nice to be able to confirm that it is a speech rate issue. I keep my speech rate at 45%, not because I do not want it faster, but because I can live with 45% and have come to strongly believe that faster rates subject us to more usability issues than just adjusting to a lower speed. I have limited myself to 45% for that reason and choose not to get accustomed to a higher speech rate on IOS for the reasons stated above and because it is so much harder to accept a lower rate once you have gotten use to a higher one. I do experience the issue, but so far it has not been to near the extent that others describe in frequency and savarity. So far mine does not happen all that frequently and so far has not been for 60 to 90 seconds on any regular occasion. Once it really seemed like a long time, but I still don't think that long. 60 to 90 seconds is a very long time when you are waiting to do something, especially when interacting with an interface. I don't even think it takes the banking machine tipically that long to process your transaction and spit out your cash and that is a lengthy process. Jim On 5/9/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > you have it on the button. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 9 May 2012, at 22:01, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people > slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or > doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so > you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this > problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few > hours, using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and > report to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one > ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: >> Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in >> lowering >> speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you >> know >> it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. >> >> If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution >> of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car >> troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. >> >> I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an >> intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no >> solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I >> doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge >> there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with >> so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands >> of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and >> they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever >> hear anything on our little issue. >> >> Eric >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
I have been experiencing the same loss of speech. Initially, I was using speech at 100 percent. The same thought occurred to me so I reduced my speech rate to sixty percent. Sixty percent didn't solve the issue so I tried fifty percent and have continued to encounter the problem. I went as far as reseting my phone and maintaining speech rate of sixty percent. For me, the issue has persisted. Just reference, I am using an iPhone 4 and have experienced this loss of speech since 5.01 Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 10:11 AM, "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the > issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one > of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
I use my 4s at 100% speech rate. The bug is still present and so far the only common denominator I've noticed is it seems to rear its ugly head when I'm rapidly swiping. Maybe others are just slower with there devices? At 04:45 PM 5/9/2012, you wrote: just because the issue only began with iOS v5.0, this does not exclude it being related to the speed of the synth. it maybe that previous coding of the OS allowed without issue the speed that some users like, but, that coding in iOS v5.0 does not. I'm not saying that it is the speed issue, but, that it seems plausible, and without anyone who has the issue, declaring that they have the issue, with speed below 60% then we cannot rule it out. more over, we know that the iOS device continues to operate normally, only the speech stops, leading me to consider it a synth specific issue. the people who have the issue, seem to have the speed set high, were as, those who say they do not, seem to have it set at 50% or less. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 18:04, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: If we're talking about the bug which started with ioos5 where vo and sounds freeze and return after a while or once power down or screen locking. It cannot be what you say. It only started with 5 but I function between 40 & 60% speed. I have a 3GS running Samantha but I know of people using 4 & 4s on Australian voice. Sent from my iPhone On 9 May 2012, at 16:34, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello all, I have my Voiceover rate set at 100% on an iPhone 4 and I am not having the issues of speech stoping for a minute or more. > > Ed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
the issue is that for all creators of stuff, if only a small minority of your user base have an issue, and none of them are in your beta testing cycle, you rely on those who have the issue to demonstrate it even exists and that it is not, frankly, user operator error. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 22:26, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Oh, well, both my ex-wife and my current wife would disagree with the wrong bit, *smile*. Seriously though, thanks for the compliment. Regarding this bug or any other, I don't personally like having to do testing in order for a company to fix the problem unless I'm on their testing team. However, since we are a small minority, I guess part of me feels that whatever we can do to give Apple all the information they need may help in the end. I can't stand speech at lower speeds, but am willing to put up with it for a few hours to see if I can prove or disprove the assumption that slower speeds are not affected and higher speeds are. Because I've been in beta testing situations before, and still am in certain things, this isn't new to me. Still, it's annoying. -- Raul A. Gallegos Tip of the day: Never have a heart attack while playing charades. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 5:20 PM, Eric SS wrote: > Raul, you are never wrong, and if you are ever wrong, your taglines make it > worth it. > > E > Telephone: (614) 522-9725 > Skype: sseric57 > > > On May 9, 2012, at 5:01 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" wrote: > > Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people > slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or > doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so > you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this > problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few hours, > using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and report > to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one > ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 > > On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: >> Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering >> speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know >> it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. >> >> If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution >> of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car >> troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. >> >> I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an >> intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no >> solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I >> doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge >> there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with >> so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands >> of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and >> they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever >> hear anything on our little issue. >> >> Eric >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
you have it on the button. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 22:01, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few hours, using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and report to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. -- Raul A. Gallegos Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: > Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering > speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know > it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. > > If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution > of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car > troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. > > I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an > intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no > solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I > doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge > there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with > so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands > of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and > they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever > hear anything on our little issue. > > Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Eric, No one said, well at least, I certainly did not, that you had to reduce speed forever. In tech support the hardest issues to resolve are those which seemingly have no reason nor rhyme. Apple are likely powerless to fix this, until they know what is causing it. If you read over my messages clearly, you'll see that I recommended reducing speed for 48 hours or so, if the issue persists then its not that, if though it resoles. bingo, you can then report to Apple accessibility, this is how you reproduce the issue, and this is how you fix it. now they have something concrete to work with. Its very, very highly likely that Apple accessibility folk will not be using their demo unit devices at anywhere near the speed some of you are, so they probably are thinking to themselves, no, no issue here. only a hand full of users have it, and we can see no pattern. so, if you want it fixing, find the pattern and demonstrate how it happens and how to fix it. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 20:37, Eric SS wrote: Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever hear anything on our little issue. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Oh, well, both my ex-wife and my current wife would disagree with the wrong bit, *smile*. Seriously though, thanks for the compliment. Regarding this bug or any other, I don't personally like having to do testing in order for a company to fix the problem unless I'm on their testing team. However, since we are a small minority, I guess part of me feels that whatever we can do to give Apple all the information they need may help in the end. I can't stand speech at lower speeds, but am willing to put up with it for a few hours to see if I can prove or disprove the assumption that slower speeds are not affected and higher speeds are. Because I've been in beta testing situations before, and still am in certain things, this isn't new to me. Still, it's annoying. -- Raul A. Gallegos Tip of the day: Never have a heart attack while playing charades. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 5:20 PM, Eric SS wrote: Raul, you are never wrong, and if you are ever wrong, your taglines make it worth it. E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 9, 2012, at 5:01 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" wrote: Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few hours, using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and report to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. -- Raul A. Gallegos Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever hear anything on our little issue. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Raul, you are never wrong, and if you are ever wrong, your taglines make it worth it. E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 9, 2012, at 5:01 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" wrote: Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few hours, using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and report to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. -- Raul A. Gallegos Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: > Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering > speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know > it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. > > If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution > of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car > troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. > > I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an > intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no > solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I > doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge > there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with > so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands > of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and > they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever > hear anything on our little issue. > > Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Hi Eric, I think what Neil was trying to get across was to suggest people slow down the speech to see if the problem still happens. Then if it does or doesn't, eventually you go back to the faster speed and you will be wiser so you can report to Apple. This is testing at a basic level. I have this problem, but choose to try and help out. So even if it means for a few hours, using the phone at slower speeds, I will see what I can find out and report to Apple. Now, Neil, if I have your intent wrong, please correct me. -- Raul A. Gallegos Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Only one ... but the light bulb has to really want to change. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/9/2012 3:37 PM, Eric SS wrote: Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever hear anything on our little issue. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
just because the issue only began with iOS v5.0, this does not exclude it being related to the speed of the synth. it maybe that previous coding of the OS allowed without issue the speed that some users like, but, that coding in iOS v5.0 does not. I'm not saying that it is the speed issue, but, that it seems plausible, and without anyone who has the issue, declaring that they have the issue, with speed below 60% then we cannot rule it out. more over, we know that the iOS device continues to operate normally, only the speech stops, leading me to consider it a synth specific issue. the people who have the issue, seem to have the speed set high, were as, those who say they do not, seem to have it set at 50% or less. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 18:04, Kirsten Edmondson wrote: If we're talking about the bug which started with ioos5 where vo and sounds freeze and return after a while or once power down or screen locking. It cannot be what you say. It only started with 5 but I function between 40 & 60% speed. I have a 3GS running Samantha but I know of people using 4 & 4s on Australian voice. Sent from my iPhone On 9 May 2012, at 16:34, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello all, I have my Voiceover rate set at 100% on an iPhone 4 and I am not > having the issues of speech stoping for a minute or more. > > Ed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Neil, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but what point is there in lowering speech rate to test if that is the issue. If you have the problem, you know it and knowing why you have it really does nothing. If you can accept working with slower speech, I suppose that is a solution of sorts, but it makes about as much sense as telling someone with car troubles they will have to drive at half speed and all will be well. I guess you could argue that half speed speech is better than an intermittent no speech, but only for a very patient customer. It is no solution at all for most customers and should not be to Apple, either. I doubt it is. It just really bugs me that they will not even acknowledge there is a problem and say it is on their list of things to fix. But, with so little feedback, compared to what they got from thousands and thousands of customers and hundreds of web writers and some real writers, too, and they still would not cop to the antenna issue, I don't expect we will ever hear anything on our little issue. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
If we're talking about the bug which started with ioos5 where vo and sounds freeze and return after a while or once power down or screen locking. It cannot be what you say. It only started with 5 but I function between 40 & 60% speed. I have a 3GS running Samantha but I know of people using 4 & 4s on Australian voice. Sent from my iPhone On 9 May 2012, at 16:34, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello all, I have my Voiceover rate set at 100% on an iPhone 4 and I am not > having the issues of speech stoping for a minute or more. > > Ed > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Hello all, I have my Voiceover rate set at 100% on an iPhone 4 and I am not having the issues of speech stoping for a minute or more. Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
well we've not been discussing that as a possible issue. The issue at hand is whether or not an iOS device without peripheral attached effectively stalls, in terms of Voice Over speech, for up to 60 - 90 seconds, as a result of, as I suspect, very high speech rates being employed. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 15:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: No, but at times Bo loses focus when I habe it connected to my braille display and nor have I ever had the issue you describe although I started with the I phone 4 and now use the 4 S. On 9 May 2012, at 03:27 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Kawal, > > But, you do not have this issue right? the issue where Voice Over stops > speaking for 60 - 90 seconds at a time. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 9 May 2012, at 15:25, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hello Neil. > > I have my speech at 50% as higher, Boice Over cuts words. However I use > Samantha as she's micer than Daniel and this goes for Seri too. > > On 9 May 2012, at 03:11 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of >> you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is >> set very fast. >> >> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >> >> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of >> the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >> >> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate >> set to just 40%. >> >> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a >> more moderate level say, 60% or less? >> >> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the >> issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, >> but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem >> to have in common. >> >> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >> >> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being >> above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher >> having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in >> itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't >> addressed either. >> >> I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would >> go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. >> Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a >> contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this >> particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across >> various iPhone and iPad models. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I >> mean turn it off and back on again? >> >> I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >&
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
No, but at times Bo loses focus when I habe it connected to my braille display and nor have I ever had the issue you describe although I started with the I phone 4 and now use the 4 S. On 9 May 2012, at 03:27 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Kawal, > > But, you do not have this issue right? the issue where Voice Over stops > speaking for 60 - 90 seconds at a time. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 9 May 2012, at 15:25, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hello Neil. > > I have my speech at 50% as higher, Boice Over cuts words. However I use > Samantha as she's micer than Daniel and this goes for Seri too. > > On 9 May 2012, at 03:11 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of >> you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is >> set very fast. >> >> The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. >> >> I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of >> the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. >> >> So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate >> set to just 40%. >> >> Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a >> more moderate level say, 60% or less? >> >> If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the >> issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, >> but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem >> to have in common. >> >> That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: >> >> If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being >> above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher >> having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in >> itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't >> addressed either. >> >> I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would >> go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. >> Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a >> contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this >> particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across >> various iPhone and iPad models. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I >> mean turn it off and back on again? >> >> I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. >> I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. >> >> Danielle >> >> >>
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Kawal, But, you do not have this issue right? the issue where Voice Over stops speaking for 60 - 90 seconds at a time. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 15:25, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Neil. I have my speech at 50% as higher, Boice Over cuts words. However I use Samantha as she's micer than Daniel and this goes for Seri too. On 9 May 2012, at 03:11 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the > issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep cle
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Hello Neil. I have my speech at 50% as higher, Boice Over cuts words. However I use Samantha as she's micer than Daniel and this goes for Seri too. On 9 May 2012, at 03:11 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the > issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one > of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I > mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS re
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
Chris, In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is set very fast. The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate set to just 40%. Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a more moderate level say, 60% or less? If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to have in common. That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't addressed either. I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across various iPhone and iPad models. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Danielle, > > It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. > > one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. > > A: speech rate no more than 60%, > clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. > > It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. > > if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but neve
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
hen touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait >> another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems >> to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple >> presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home >> screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your >> place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, >> nursing the device to recover on its own is best. >> >> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have >> purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when >> skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length >> clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >> >> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged >> their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, >> beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so >> much as a thank you for your inquiry. >> >> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is >> like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not >> using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal >> to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's >> blessings, too,. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people >> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is >> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to >> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was >> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is >> not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>>> >>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>>> >>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>>> error >>>> every time >>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Go to settings, general, software update. Christopher Hallsworth On 08/05/2012 21:36, Paul Ferrara wrote: All what are the steps to update without using iTunes? - Original Message - From: Jenifer Gilley To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Cristobal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
at the home >> screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your >> place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, >> nursing the device to recover on its own is best. >> >> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have >> purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when >> skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length >> clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >> >> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged >> their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, >> beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so >> much as a thank you for your inquiry. >> >> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is >> like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not >> using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal >> to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's >> blessings, too,. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people >> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is >> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to >> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was >> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is >> not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>>> >>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>>> >>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>>> error >>>> every time >>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>&
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
All what are the steps to update without using iTunes? - Original Message - From: Jenifer Gilley To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Cristobal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
g more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>> >>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>> be > included. >>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>> update What's New summary. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>> stream, >>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
er be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >> calendar still. >> >> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >> up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >> Skype: sseric57 >> >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>> error >> every time >>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>> >>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>> be included. >>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>> update What's New summary. >>> >>> Best, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>> >>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>> stream, >>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>> email >>>> claudas...@gmail.com >>>> MSN: >>>> claudas...@cox.net >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Cristobal >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >>>> for those >>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash >>> it the >> first time >>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
g more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>> >>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>> be > included. >>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>> update What's New summary. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>> stream, >>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Yeh I do. Can't bare the thought of slow speech. too impatient. I'll just make do - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:51 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I re
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't addressed either. I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across various iPhone and iPad models. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Danielle, > > It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. > > one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. > > A: speech rate no more than 60%, > clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. > > It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. > > if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >> >> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >> >> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. >> >> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >> >> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so >> long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though >> this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. >> >> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at >> length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, >> although
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
this has never happened to me before On 5/8/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to >> screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps >> running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for >> long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the >> issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring >> in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one >> of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I >> mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient >> not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this >> before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. >> >> Danielle >> - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe >>> the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >>> >>> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >>> >>> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >>> >>> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >>> restart your iOS device daily. >>> >>> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> www.neilbarnfather.com >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >>> >>> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long >>> and >>> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >>> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very >>> few. >>> >>> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length >>> and >>> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they >>> did >>> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >>> >>> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue >>> is >>> real and is not limited just to a few new occurren
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even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Danielle, > > It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running > at the time etc. > > one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, > but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue > resolves. > > A: speech rate no more than 60%, > clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in > the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. > > It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. > > if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of > the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean > slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not > to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before > the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the >> default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >> >> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >> >> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >> restart your iOS device daily. >> >> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >> >> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and >> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. >> >> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and >> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did >> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >> >> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is >> real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have >> tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, >> with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both >> devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. >> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one >> is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. >> >> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly >> scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has >> finished speaking, I can reduce
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I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Danielle, > > It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running > at the time etc. > > one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, > but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue > resolves. > > A: speech rate no more than 60%, > clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in > the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. > > It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. > > if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of > the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean > slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not > to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before > the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the >> default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >> >> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >> >> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >> restart your iOS device daily. >> >> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >> >> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and >> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. >> >> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and >> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did >> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >> >> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is >> real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have >> tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, >> with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both >> devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. >> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one >> is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. >> >> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly >> scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has >> finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not >> eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds >> seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 >> and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait >> another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems >> to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple >> presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home >> screen.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > Eric, > > Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the > default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. > > I keep mine around 50% but never higher. > > I also clear the switcher daily and restart. > > in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and > restart your iOS device daily. > > do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: > > I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and > speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an > unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. > > This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and > probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did > once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. > > Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is > real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have > tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, > with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both > devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. > I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one > is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. > > The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly > scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has > finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not > eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds > seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 > and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait > another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems > to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple > presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home > screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your > place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, > nursing the device to recover on its own is best. > > I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have > purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when > skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length > clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. > > I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged > their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, > beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been give
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, bu
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It is a bug which I also noticed on my iPad 2, iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS especially on browser-like apps. I started seeing it in IOS 5.0.1. If you never encountered this, luck you but I think this bug needs fixing. Sent from my iPad On 08 May,2012, at 1:34 AM, "Cristobal" wrote: > Pretty much everywhere. From swiping in a particular app or on one of the > homepages going from app to app or just tracing a finger around the screen. > It might not happen for a long time and it'll happen a couple of times > within a five minute span. There's really no rime or reason to it. I know > it's not something exclusive to my device as it'll occur on my iPad as well > and others have commented on this same exact behavior on this list. It's > been present in iOS 5.0.1 and the subsequent updates since then. I can't > speak to earlier versions as my first phone was the 4S running the 5.0.1 OS. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Scott Howell > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Danielle, > > WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I > am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app > causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. > > On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: > >> No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen > if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to > overload. >> >> Danielle >> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >> This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? > For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have > you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes > something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that > only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to > "factory" settings. >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >>> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty >>> to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than >>> either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety >>> seconds for Voiceover to come back. >>> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is >>> a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some >>> fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. >>> >>> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't >>> experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it >>> was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and >>> and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in > about an hour's time. >>> >>> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that > issue. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of James Mannion >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not >>> be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >>> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since >>> people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a >>> problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over >>> that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release >>> to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues >>> hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least > claim to have addressed them. >>> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting >>> there was some change in t
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hello, And, the intermittent problems are always the most difficult to debug. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 23:36, Eric SS wrote: > Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from > 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. > > I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a > lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. > > The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every > several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. > > I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have > just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most > maddening because the problem is intermittent. > > All thanks! > > E > > Telephone: (614) 522-9725 > Skype: sseric57 > > > On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > > Eric, > > Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the > default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. > > I keep mine around 50% but never higher. > > I also clear the switcher daily and restart. > > in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and > restart your iOS device daily. > > do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: > > I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and > speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an > unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. > > This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and > probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did > once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. > > Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is > real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have > tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, > with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both > devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. > I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one > is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. > > The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly > scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has > finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not > eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds > seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 > and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait > another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems > to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple > presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home > screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your > place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, > nursing the device to recover on its own is best. > > I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have > purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when > skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length > clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. > > I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged > their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, > beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@goo
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hello, It definitely happens, and really looks like memory buffer overflow issues. VO remains running, but the voice disappears. If you have a braille display connected, you will find that the braille display continues running. My guess is that the problem is related to the HQ voices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 22:48, "Eric SS" wrote: > I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and > speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an > unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. > > This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and > probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did > once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. > > Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is > real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have > tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, > with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both > devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. > I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one > is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. > > The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly > scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has > finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not > eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds > seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 > and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait > another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems > to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple > presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home > screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your > place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, > nursing the device to recover on its own is best. > > I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have > purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when > skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length > clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. > > I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged > their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, > beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working pr
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most maddening because the problem is intermittent. All thanks! E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I looked through the Users Guide and could not locate a section on new features for the latest upgrade. Specifically, I thought I read there was a way to lock the phone with a new shortcut? Anybody know anything about this? Thanks. Les On May 8, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. > > On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the >> default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >> >> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >> >> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >> restart your iOS device daily. >> >> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >> >> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and >> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. >> >> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and >> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did >> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >> >> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is >> real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have >> tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, >> with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both >> devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. >> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one >> is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. >> >> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly >> scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has >> finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not >> eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds >> seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 >> and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait >> another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems >> to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple >> presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home >> screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your >> place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, >> nursing the device to recover on its own is best. >> >> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have >> purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when >> skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length >> clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >> >> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged >> their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, >> beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so >> much as a thank you for your inquiry. >> >> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is >> like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not >> using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal >> to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's >> blessings, too,. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Eric, > > Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the > default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. > > I keep mine around 50% but never higher. > > I also clear the switcher daily and restart. > > in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and > restart your iOS device daily. > > do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: > > I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and > speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an > unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. > > This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and > probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did > once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. > > Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is > real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have > tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, > with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both > devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. > I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one > is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. > > The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly > scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has > finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not > eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds > seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 > and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait > another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems > to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple > presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home > screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your > place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, > nursing the device to recover on its own is best. > > I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have > purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when > skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length > clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. > > I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged > their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, > beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that th
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>calendar still. >> >>It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >>Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>Skype: sseric57 >> >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>not addressed in the release notes. I
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
have you switched from your regional default synth, i.e. Daniel in the UK? as this perhaps might account for it? not exactly sure how, nor why, but, possibly? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 01:01, Danielle McCullough wrote: Nope, doesn't matter where you are... Guess you're just extremely lucky! Danielle - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:24 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Danielle, WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: > No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if > you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to > overload. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > > This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For > example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you > tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes > something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that > only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to > "factory" settings. > > On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to >> ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either >> restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for >> Voiceover to come back. >> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major >> bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, >> who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. >> >> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced >> that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone >> thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I >> experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. >> >> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people >> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is >> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to >> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was >> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is >> not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>>> >>>> It does not give me hope that the
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I do not have that bug of silence for up to 90 seconds or so, very rarely does any of my iOS devices go quiet like that... and even when they do, its for no more than say 5 seconds max. do you regularly, and I mean regularly, like every night, empty your app switcher, and restart your phone... I do this religiously every night, clear the switcher and restart the phone. also do this on my iPad, perhaps you are experiencing something which is setting or app specific to your device. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 7 May 2012, at 22:37, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >> calendar still. >> >> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >> up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >> Skype: sseric57 >> >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>> error >> every time >>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>> &
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I've found that if I use the compact voice that rairly happens. Debbie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Danielle McCullough Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to > ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either > restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for > Voiceover to come back. > For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a > major > bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then > again, > who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. > > I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't > experienced > that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone > thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I > experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. > > Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since > people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It > is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed > them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there > was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it > is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other
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Updates usually include bug fixes. It's always a good policy to update. Andy -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. > Jenifer Gilley > email > claudas...@gmail.com > MSN: > claudas...@cox.net > - Original Message - > From: Cristobal > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM > Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
We are referring to the loss of speech from voiceover bug, not the unlock bug. I completely agree that the unlock bug is so much of a small issue if one could even really call it an issue. I have also been quite frustrated what a huge deal people have made of the unlock bug, making it sound like this is the most horrable thing we deal with. Honestly, blowing the unlock bug up to that perportion is rediculous! On 5/7/12, Anthony Vece wrote: > I don't understand why this bug is such a big issue. > Just give your phonemic to unlock. > > > Sent from my Verizon iPhone! > > On May 7, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> I don't know about that, but I do know that the phone app still randomly >> decides to open if you tap the screen right after you unlock the device. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Veronica Elsea >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:42 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up >>> issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, >>> but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would >>> launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not >>> addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of >>>> fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say >>>> for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>> >>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be >> included. >>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update >>>> What's New summary. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>> stream, >>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>>> email >>>>> claudas...@gmail.com >>>>> MSN: >>>>> claudas...@cox.net >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Cristobal >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>> >>>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for >>>>> those >>>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it >>>> the >>> first time >>>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I don't understand why this bug is such a big issue. Just give your phonemic to unlock. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On May 7, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > I don't know about that, but I do know that the phone app still randomly > decides to open if you tap the screen right after you unlock the device. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Veronica Elsea > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >> calendar still. >> >> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up >> issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >> Skype: sseric57 >> >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, >> but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would >> launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not >> addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>> error >> every time >>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of >>> fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say >>> for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>> >>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be > included. >>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update >>> What's New summary. >>> >>> Best, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>> >>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>> stream, >>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>> email >>>> claudas...@gmail.com >>>> MSN: >>>> claudas...@cox.net >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Cristobal >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for >>>> those >>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it >>> the >> first time >>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >>> don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others >>> can dig up the information. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the &qu
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I have had this happen to. Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2012, at 5:01 PM, "Danielle McCullough" wrote: > No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if > you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to > overload. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > > This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For > example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you > tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes > something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that > only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to > "factory" settings. > > On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to >> ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either >> restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for >> Voiceover to come back. >> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major >> bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, >> who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. >> >> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced >> that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone >> thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I >> experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. >> >> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. >> >> -Original Message- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Nope, doesn't matter where you are... Guess you're just extremely lucky! Danielle - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:24 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Danielle, WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
It's not a question of the processor laggin. You can see everything works as normal except it doesn't speak. You can even hear the VO sound effects. It just randonly occurs and will come back in about a minute. At 05:58 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Wow, yeah, I've never encountered that either. You also have to keep in mind, the processor could be lagging, and is unable to process the instructions it's given, so that could also attribute to the lag. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to > ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either > restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for > Voiceover to come back. > For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a > major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. > Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. > > I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't > experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it > was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and > and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. > > Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not > be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since > people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a > problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over > that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release > to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues > hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting > there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation > to make and it is not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented >> the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When >>> you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the >>> phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be >>> one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >&g
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Unfortunately, they didn't. Hims devices still won't work. Perhaps if someone is willing to use a fresh restored iPhone and test it? My tests didn't work at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 9:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out hello, well i hope apple fixed the Braille Display support for the hims products broken in ios. 5.1. On May 7, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > Hi Jenifer and all, > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. > > Best, > Anna > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> Jenifer Gilley >> email >> claudas...@gmail.com >> MSN: >> claudas...@cox.net >> - Original Message - >> From: Cristobal >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Pretty much everywhere. From swiping in a particular app or on one of the homepages going from app to app or just tracing a finger around the screen. It might not happen for a long time and it'll happen a couple of times within a five minute span. There's really no rime or reason to it. I know it's not something exclusive to my device as it'll occur on my iPad as well and others have commented on this same exact behavior on this list. It's been present in iOS 5.0.1 and the subsequent updates since then. I can't speak to earlier versions as my first phone was the 4S running the 5.0.1 OS. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Danielle, WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: > No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > > This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. > > On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty >> to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than >> either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety >> seconds for Voiceover to come back. >> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is >> a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some >> fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. >> >> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't >> experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it >> was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and >> and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. >> >> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not >> be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since >> people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a >> problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over >> that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release >> to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues >> hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting >> there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation >> to make and it is not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented >>> the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When >>>> you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>&g
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
hello, well i hope apple fixed the Braille Display support for the hims products broken in ios. 5.1. On May 7, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > Hi Jenifer and all, > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update > doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where > there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. > > Best, > Anna > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, >> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do >> with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> Jenifer Gilley >> email >> claudas...@gmail.com >> MSN: >> claudas...@cox.net >> - Original Message - >> From: Cristobal >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those >> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn’t >> prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time >> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don’t >> know if there’s anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up >> the information. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Danielle, WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: > No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if > you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to > overload. > > Danielle > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > > This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For > example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you > tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes > something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that > only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to > "factory" settings. > > On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to >> ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either >> restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for >> Voiceover to come back. >> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major >> bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, >> who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. >> >> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced >> that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone >> thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I >> experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. >> >> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people >> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is >> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to >> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was >> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is >> not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>>> >>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >&g
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Never had this issue persay, however I will at time on my 4S get in to a situation wherein voice over does not seem to keep up with my flicking or swiping and I end up tapping in to the wrong app. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristobal Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 17:38 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>calendar still. >> >>It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >>Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>Skype: sseric57 >> >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >> > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >> > see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >> > error >> every time >> > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >> > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >> > of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >> > say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> > Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> > >> > Hi Jenifer and all, >> > >> > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >> > update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >> > be included. >> > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >> > past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >> > update What's New summary. >> > >> > Best, >> > Anna >> > &
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. Danielle - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Wow, yeah, I've never encountered that either. You also have to keep in mind, the processor could be lagging, and is unable to process the instructions it's given, so that could also attribute to the lag. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to > ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either > restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for > Voiceover to come back. > For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a > major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. > Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. > > I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't > experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it > was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and > and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. > > Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not > be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since > people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a > problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over > that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release > to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues > hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting > there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation > to make and it is not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented >> the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When >>> you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the >>> phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be >>> one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>> say for any accessibilit
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: > The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to > ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either > restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for > Voiceover to come back. > For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major > bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, > who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. > > I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced > that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone > thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I > experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. > > Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>> >>
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>calendar still. >> >>It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >>Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>Skype: sseric57 >> >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >> > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >> > see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >> > error >> every time >> > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >> > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >> > of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >> > say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> > Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> > >> > Hi Jenifer and all, >> > >> > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >> > update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >> > be included. >> > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >> > past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >> > update What's New summary. >> > >> > Best, >> > Anna >> > >> > >> > >> > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >> > >> >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >> >> stream, >> > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >> > to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> >> Je
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I don't know about that, but I do know that the phone app still randomly decides to open if you tap the screen right after you unlock the device. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >calendar still. > >It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up >issue, either. We can only hope! > > > >Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >Skype: sseric57 > > >On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, >but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would >launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not >addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. > >On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: > > > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to > > see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt > > error > every time > > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be > > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of > > fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say > > for any accessibility improvements/fixes. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > > Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > > > Hi Jenifer and all, > > > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the > > update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. > > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the > > past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update > > What's New summary. > > > > Best, > > Anna > > > > > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > > > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo > >> stream, > > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has > > to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. > >> Jenifer Gilley > >> email > >> claudas...@gmail.com > >> MSN: > >> claudas...@cox.net > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Cristobal > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM > >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out > >> > >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for > >> those > > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that > > didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it > > the > first time > > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I > > don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others > > can dig up the information. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > > Google Group. > >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > > Google Group. > >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>calendar still. >> >>It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >>Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>Skype: sseric57 >> >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >> > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >> > see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >> > error >> every time >> > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >> > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >> > of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >> > say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> > Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> > >> > Hi Jenifer and all, >> > >> > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >> > update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. >> > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >> > past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >> > update What's New summary. >> > >> > Best, >> > Anna >> > >> > >> > >> > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >> > >> >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >> >> stream, >> > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >> > to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> >> Jenifer Gilley >> >> email >> >> claudas...@gmail.com >> >> MSN: >> >> claudas...@cox.net >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Cristobal >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >> >> for those >> > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >> > didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash >> > it the >> first time >> > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >> > don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps >> > others can dig up the information. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because y
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented > the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When >>you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>calendar still. >> >>It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >>Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>Skype: sseric57 >> >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the >>phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be >>one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >>On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >> > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see >> > addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error >> every time >> > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >> > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of >> > fixes >> > that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any >> > accessibility improvements/fixes. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Woody Anna Dresner >> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> > >> > Hi Jenifer and all, >> > >> > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update >> > doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. >> > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past >> > where >> > there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New >> > summary. >> > >> > Best, >> > Anna >> > >> > >> > >> > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >> > >> >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, >> > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to >> > do >> > with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> >> Jenifer Gilley >> >> email >> >> claudas...@gmail.com >> >> MSN: >> >> claudas...@cox.net >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Cristobal >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for >> >> those >> > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >> > didn't >> > prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the >> first time >> > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't >> > know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig >> > up >> > the information. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> > Google Group. >> >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see > addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes > that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any > accessibility improvements/fixes. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Hi Jenifer and all, > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update > doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where > there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New > summary. > > Best, > Anna > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do > with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> Jenifer Gilley >> email >> claudas...@gmail.com >> MSN: >> claudas...@cox.net >> - Original Message - >> From: Cristobal >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't > prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't > know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up > the information. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
For the curious,, below are the release notes that I found from the Geek with Laptop site, along with the site's URL for iOS 5.1.1. 1. Improves reliability of using HDR option for photos taken using the Lock Screen shortcut 2. Addresses bugs that could prevent the new iPad from switching between 2G and 3G networks 3. Fixes bugs that affected AirPlay video playback in some circumstances 4. Improved reliability for syncing Safari bookmarks and Reading List 5. Fixes an issue where ‘Unable to purchase’ alert could be displayed after successful purchase Looks like they didn't fix much. The address I found for this information is: http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/download-ios-5-1-1-firmware-for-iphone-ipad-and-ipod-touch This site has download links and information of what versions of iOS devices the update will work on, however if you have v5.0 on your iOS device, then you will probably be able to update to 5.1.1. Regards, Wayne Merritt On 5/7/12, Eric SS wrote: > Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select > all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. > > It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up > issue, either. We can only hope! > > > > Telephone: (614) 522-9725 > Skype: sseric57 > > > On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but > I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when > I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release > notes. I guess only time will tell. > > On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: > >> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see >> addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every >> time >> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes >> that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any >> accessibility improvements/fixes. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Woody Anna Dresner >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Hi Jenifer and all, >> >> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update >> doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. >> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past >> where >> there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New >> summary. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >> >>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, >> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do >> with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>> Jenifer Gilley >>> email >>> claudas...@gmail.com >>> MSN: >>> claudas...@cox.net >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Cristobal >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those >> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't >> prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first >> time >> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't >> know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up >> the information. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegr
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see > addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes > that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any > accessibility improvements/fixes. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Hi Jenifer and all, > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update > doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where > there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New > summary. > > Best, > Anna > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do > with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> Jenifer Gilley >> email >> claudas...@gmail.com >> MSN: >> claudas...@cox.net >> - Original Message - >> From: Cristobal >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't > prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't > know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up > the information. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphon
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: > I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see > addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time > I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be > downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes > that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any > accessibility improvements/fixes. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Hi Jenifer and all, > > Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update > doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. > There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where > there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New > summary. > > Best, > Anna > > > > On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > >> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do > with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >> Jenifer Gilley >> email >> claudas...@gmail.com >> MSN: >> claudas...@cox.net >> - Original Message - >> From: Cristobal >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those > who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't > prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't > know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up > the information. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hi. But is the licence window readable? Just before downloading the upgrade? As for me, I didn't hear any single word spoken by VoiceOver, only its clicks. AZ 07.05.2012 22:54, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Cristobal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn’t prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don’t know if there’s anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. > Jenifer Gilley > email > claudas...@gmail.com > MSN: > claudas...@cox.net > - Original Message - > From: Cristobal > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM > Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hi Everyone; So far I haven't found any changes. However, updates usually take care of security vulnerabilities. Anthony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. > Jenifer Gilley > email > claudas...@gmail.com > MSN: > claudas...@cox.net > - Original Message - > From: Cristobal > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM > Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: > Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, > airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do > with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. > Jenifer Gilley > email > claudas...@gmail.com > MSN: > claudas...@cox.net > - Original Message - > From: Cristobal > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM > Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who > wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn’t > prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time > I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don’t know > if there’s anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the > information. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream, airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Cristobal To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up the information. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
