Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Thanks sir adding the tech support aspect sold me. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:42 AM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I just saw that there are already 43 messages to this thread. So it has been quite a popular topic. I am writing this message to you without reading the other answers first. Then I will see how close my answer is to everyone else's. At least for me this app has been invaluable and definitely worth the cost. I use it to read my mail. That's probably the most thing I have used it for. I can quickly go through envelopes which arrived daily and if they are spam I can return them, or if they are addressed to someone else I can return them. If they are addressed to me I can keep them and once I go through the rest of the mail I can later open the ones I capped and quickly figure out what, if anything important they have to say. Additionally I have used this app to help me with my work. If I am working with someone's computer and speech doesn't come up, I can take a picture of the monitor and read whatever error message might be there. Another instance is the computer had booted up and it was at the desk top but the screen reader was not coming on. Taking a picture of the screen told me that the computer was definitely at the desk top with no error. So this told me that things were okay, and gave me a better direction as to which kind of troubleshooting I should try first.another time I was watching TV and the channel kept cutting out. On a whim I took a picture of the TV screen while I was sitting almost 5 feet away at my couch. It successfully read me the error message that came up on the TV screen.you can also use this app if you were out and about and need to take pictures of certain signs. Keep in mind that it will read text and not translate anything that has to do with pictures. It will also not do well if you take a picture of something with really large and fancy fonts, like the front of certain grocery store items.however with the same grocery store items, like cooking instructions, it will do very well. So if you can't remember how much oil to put in those brownies, this Apple definitely help you. There are several other good uses, but these are mainly the ones that I have used this app for. On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than postin
RE: All Access [was "Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?"]
Hi, I just checked out the Urban Spoon and found out that the diner which is about six blocks North West of my current location has it's menu on that app. This makes me very happy as I once was able to walk to that diner and enjoyed doing so every once in a while. I no longer enjoy that due to the six lane highways that crisscross the place where I live and we have the distinction of living in the second highest pedestrian accident place in the State, sad face! But for the Greek omelet I just saw I'm seriously thinking of giving it one more try, laughs! Thanks for giving me another tool for my toolbox. Smile! Merv -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: All Access [was "Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?"]
There is another app called Urban Spoon, which I am not sure if it is one or two words. Also not sure on the cost but I think it is free. It offers the ability to look up menus of restaurants in your area or from different food categories. Wayne On 12/6/14, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > All Access is another app. I haven't used it much myself, but it uses > your location and gives you a list of restaurants near by. If the menus > for the restaurant you're interested in have been loaded into the app > then you can bring up and read the menu. > > On 12/06/2014 07:52 PM, Joe wrote: >> What's All Access? Is that another app or a specific setting within the >> KNFB Reader app? >> >> -- >> >> Musings of a Work in Progress: >> >> www.JoeOrozco.com/ >> >> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Steve >> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 8:40 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> It works ok, but All Access is much better for restaurant menus because >> of the variability and size of some of the menus. >> >> - Original Message - >> >> *From:*SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> >> >> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> *Sent:*Friday, December 05, 2014 5:55 PM >> >> *Subject:*RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind >> putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really >> practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering >> about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in >> format and quality. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Eric >> >> -------------------- >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly >> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper >> documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running >> iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" > <mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com>> wrote: >> >> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift >> cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader--but I'd like to know if >> folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what >> things have worked well and what things have not? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the >> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting >> on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi, I am sitting here beside a temporary loan of a Pearl and Open Book neither of which will be mine when I relocate. Neither is it convenient when combined with the 17 inch acer it is currently connected to in a dining situation. However, since the Acer is only a spare anyway, it is convenient as a tool for reading mail. However, I am anxious to try the KNFB Reader on the menus of an HDTV such as the annoying sixty inch model that currently sits in my temporary residence and has been sitting there for about eleven months and is still not completely configured to its maximum user comfort. I have heard that the reader app may be helpful in that regard. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I actually know for a fact my family doesn't find it annoying. I can read braile faster than they can read to me. It is a personal preference, and everyone's family is different, but don't presume to tell me how mine would react, please, as you don't know my family any more than I know yours. Eden On 12/8/2014 7:10 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: Eden I must disagree with you. If your family can read and don't have a problem reading a menu for you, I think that they will find it annoying having to wait for you to make a decision long after they have read the menu. On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone. For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean it's always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of the menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most practical and efficient way of getting the job done. On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Eden, Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I don't have to push the correct button just because it has braille if others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a conversation anyways and I don't feel that anybody thinks I am not independent just because they are reading this information for me. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct menu listed. I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with them. eden On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Greetings. The KNFB Reader app is on my to-buy list later this month, around that holiday where we exchange gifts and such. Anyway, another way to get around the cost is to tell your friends and family that you are collecting gift cards. Even if I get several gift cars that only add up to $50, my cost of the app will be cut in half. Of course, if I get gift cards that add up to the entire cost of the app then that would be even better. Also, should I fall short in my gift card pile, I have thought about cashing in my credit card's cash back option, which currently sits at around $86. Another option for reading restaurant menus is to see if the restaurant has an app. Of those that do, they often have their menus within the app. I got the Steak 'N Shake app not long ago and found the whole menu, divided up into different categories, and which listed product information and pricing if I went down far enough. As mentioned before, not all menus will scan well. I was talking with my wife this weekend about scanning menus, and I mentioned that perhaps I can scan the menu, save the file on my phone, and build up a collection of menus for restaurants we go to regularly. This would save time when deciding what to get since I would already be familiar with the menu. And, in the event that the menu I have previously scanned was not up to date with the current menu, I could scan the menu at the restaurant and update the file. I have a coworker that has the KNFB Reader app. He is a blind O&M instructor and is not as technical. Anyway, he was telling me that he has used the app to scan the questions and answers that pop up on the game show Family Fued, and the app recognized them perfectly from his TV's screen. Wayne On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Andy, I fully agree with you on this. While this app might be very > successful at reading certain menus at a restaurant, I have not found a very > practical to do so. I would also prefer to look at the restaurant menu ahead > of time using other apps like foursquare or all menus, or while at the > restaurant, reading their braille menu if they have one. > > > >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: >> >> When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of >> holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, >> or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go >> to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. >> >> Andy >> >> From: SSEric >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind >> putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical >> to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the >> speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and >> quality. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Eric >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Alan Lemly >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper >> documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS >> 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. >> >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: >>> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, >>> and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader--but I'd like to know if folks find >>> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have >>> worked well and what things have not? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Paul >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >>> for this list can be searched at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an &
menu thoughts - Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
If people are willing to read a menu to you, they should realize that you're not going to make an immediate decision after hearing all of the choices, any more than they would read a menu and immediately choose. As for using the KNFB reader to read a menu, my first thought would be that this can be done whenever you get the chance, and you can save the created file for later use, provided there is another way to access the menu for making a choice in a timely manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "John Diakogeorgiou" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? Eden I must disagree with you. If your family can read and don't have a problem reading a menu for you, I think that they will find it annoying having to wait for you to make a decision long after they have read the menu. On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone. For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean it's always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of the menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most practical and efficient way of getting the job done. On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Eden, Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I don't have to push the correct button just because it has braille if others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a conversation anyways and I don't feel that anybody thinks I am not independent just because they are reading this information for me. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct menu listed. I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with them. eden On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thank
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Merv! if you turn the reading rate up high enough it will sound like Chinese! just a thought! lol, Dave From: Merv Keck Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 7:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? Hi, This is a timely topic I have had to deal with since making the transition from a high partial to a very low vision almost totally blind individual between 2007 and present. My iPhone 5S has become one of my favorite tools along with my I D Mate Quest. At first my rather large and over-inflated sense of pride hated the idea of needing help with menus at a restaurant as I was always the one who read the entire menu for all the other “blind” people at the table, laughs! Now I either depend on AllMenus or let the sighted dude tell me or look it up online whichever is faster or most efficient or most interesting or entertaining or a combination of the above. I am still saving for the KNFB Reader but I do know someone who has it and it does drive me absolutely batty when in a public place and 30 minutes later I can still hear 600 words per hour gibberish going on and everyone else including me has already moved on to something else a half hour ago. On another list, not related to phones, we were discussing the idea that sometimes we as blind people need to have more than one tool in the toolbox. For example AllMenus, KNFB Reader, someone mentioned 4Square which I don’t use but that is great if someone uses that. And I am sure there are others. Also while physically there some places have Braille menus. I like to look up the Menus online when possible and of course there are always specials that day they will tell you about if you ask. Here’s a silly question? Does the KNFB reader read Chinese? Oh never mind most of those menus are in English anyway, laughing Lots! Merv -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Eden I must disagree with you. If your family can read and don't have a problem reading a menu for you, I think that they will find it annoying having to wait for you to make a decision long after they have read the menu. On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but > being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance > between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone. > For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean it's > always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they > have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time > efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of the > menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already > decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most > practical and efficient way of getting the job done. > > > >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> Hi Eden, >> >> Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB >> Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they >> want and then wait to see if you get a good result? >> I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an >> elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I >> don't have to push the correct button just because it has braille if >> others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can >> just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant >> menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for >> this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually >> choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a >> conversation anyways and I don't feel that anybody thinks I am not >> independent just because they are reading this information for me. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Eden Kizer >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people >> liking KNFB reader? >> >> We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can >> easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to >> where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think >> look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't >> have the correct menu listed. >> >> I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my >> independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with >> them. >> >> eden >> On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: >> In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is >> not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. >> You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your >> table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I >> can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more >> independent. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >> finished, you! really! are! finished! >> - Original Message - >> From: Andy Baracco >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM >> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of >> holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, >> or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go >> to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. >> >> Andy >> >> From: SSEric >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind >> putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical >> to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the >> speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and >> quality. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Eric >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@g
RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi, This is a timely topic I have had to deal with since making the transition from a high partial to a very low vision almost totally blind individual between 2007 and present. My iPhone 5S has become one of my favorite tools along with my I D Mate Quest. At first my rather large and over-inflated sense of pride hated the idea of needing help with menus at a restaurant as I was always the one who read the entire menu for all the other "blind" people at the table, laughs! Now I either depend on AllMenus or let the sighted dude tell me or look it up online whichever is faster or most efficient or most interesting or entertaining or a combination of the above. I am still saving for the KNFB Reader but I do know someone who has it and it does drive me absolutely batty when in a public place and 30 minutes later I can still hear 600 words per hour gibberish going on and everyone else including me has already moved on to something else a half hour ago. On another list, not related to phones, we were discussing the idea that sometimes we as blind people need to have more than one tool in the toolbox. For example AllMenus, KNFB Reader, someone mentioned 4Square which I don't use but that is great if someone uses that. And I am sure there are others. Also while physically there some places have Braille menus. I like to look up the Menus online when possible and of course there are always specials that day they will tell you about if you ask. Here's a silly question? Does the KNFB reader read Chinese? Oh never mind most of those menus are in English anyway, laughing Lots! Merv -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone. For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean it's always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of the menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most practical and efficient way of getting the job done. > On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Hi Eden, > > Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB > Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they want > and then wait to see if you get a good result? > I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an > elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I don’t > have to push the correct button just because it has braille if others who are > pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can just tell them which > floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant menu. I guess if I were > by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for this instead of asking the > waiter or waitress to read it, but usually choosing a meal when I go out with > friends or family becomes a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that > anybody thinks I am not independent just because they are reading this > information for me. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Eden Kizer > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking > KNFB reader? > > We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can > easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where > I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, > and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct > menu listed. > > I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my > independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with > them. > > eden > On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: > In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not > showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are > not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you > can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? > Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: Andy Baracco > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding > everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better > yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the > restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. > > Andy > > From: SSEric > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? > Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting > of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the > KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy > of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. > > Thanks! > > Eric > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents > like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am > amazed at how quick and accurate it is. > > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: > All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift card
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Andy, I fully agree with you on this. While this app might be very successful at reading certain menus at a restaurant, I have not found a very practical to do so. I would also prefer to look at the restaurant menu ahead of time using other apps like foursquare or all menus, or while at the restaurant, reading their braille menu if they have one. > On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > > When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding > everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better > yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the > restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. > > Andy > > From: SSEric > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? > Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting > of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the > KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy > of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. > > Thanks! > > Eric > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents > like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am > amazed at how quick and accurate it is. > > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: >> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >> well and what things have not? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this grou
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I just saw that there are already 43 messages to this thread. So it has been quite a popular topic. I am writing this message to you without reading the other answers first. Then I will see how close my answer is to everyone else's. At least for me this app has been invaluable and definitely worth the cost. I use it to read my mail. That's probably the most thing I have used it for. I can quickly go through envelopes which arrived daily and if they are spam I can return them, or if they are addressed to someone else I can return them. If they are addressed to me I can keep them and once I go through the rest of the mail I can later open the ones I capped and quickly figure out what, if anything important they have to say. Additionally I have used this app to help me with my work. If I am working with someone's computer and speech doesn't come up, I can take a picture of the monitor and read whatever error message might be there. Another instance is the computer had booted up and it was at the desk top but the screen reader was not coming on. Taking a picture of the screen told me that the computer was definitely at the desk top with no error. So this told me that things were okay, and gave me a better direction as to which kind of troubleshooting I should try first.another time I was watching TV and the channel kept cutting out. On a whim I took a picture of the TV screen while I was sitting almost 5 feet away at my couch. It successfully read me the error message that came up on the TV screen.you can also use this app if you were out and about and need to take pictures of certain signs. Keep in mind that it will read text and not translate anything that has to do with pictures. It will also not do well if you take a picture of something with really large and fancy fonts, like the front of certain grocery store items.however with the same grocery store items, like cooking instructions, it will do very well. So if you can't remember how much oil to put in those brownies, this Apple definitely help you. There are several other good uses, but these are mainly the ones that I have used this app for. > On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Paul Ferrara wrote: > > All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and > if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find > themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked > well and what things have not? > > Thank you. > > Paul > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I don’t need this app immediately. It still has some bugs that have not yet been quashed. I have decided to wait to learn if another company will be introducing another similar app at CSUN in March. If someone else could deliver the quality and usability of the KNFB Reader along with the ability to port business cards into contacts, scan bar codes and display full product information as well as scan and read out the entire text of a QR code, the other company would have an ideal package of services to deliver on the app. The limitation of the KNFB Reader is that it doesn’t do other scanning chores and it has trouble saving to a cloud based storage system in a widely used document format. Kelly On 12/6/14, SSEric wrote: > I did see this mentioned once, but as a reminder, Blind Square also has > restaurant menus for many places. It is not the entire menu, but generally > is the price, the dish's title on a line and a one-line description. I > guess > they source this from Four Square? > > > > Are we living in good times or what! > > > > Eric > > > > > > _ > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Lori Dent > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > The app is all access menus. This app can search by name, scan logos to > access business information, scan qr codes, automotive businesses , > restaurants , entertainment, health related businesses, shopping, travel > related businesses , follow all access menus on twitter, visit all access > on > the web, and review all access on the app store. > > > > I just downloaded this app the other day and I decided to play around with > the app. For example I doubled tapped on the search by name and then > theirs > a text field I doubled tapp on and the built in keyboard popped up and > then > I typed in for example Bob Evans and tapped on the search button and many > different Bob Evans Restaurants showed up around 42 I think with the > different locations of each restaurant. Then I doubled tapped on the Bob > Evans location I wanted and it took me to another screen. > > > > On this screen for Bob Evans theirs 5 options you can choose from and they > are menu, maps, phone, website and 4 square. Anyhow, I doubled tapped on > the > menu option and hear is where you can read the entire Bob Evans menu. > > > > I know I'm going to love this app with all the different things this app > can > do. > > > > So I hope this helps you some. Take care. > > > > Lori and the Gipper > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I did see this mentioned once, but as a reminder, Blind Square also has restaurant menus for many places. It is not the entire menu, but generally is the price, the dish's title on a line and a one-line description. I guess they source this from Four Square? Are we living in good times or what! Eric _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lori Dent Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? Hi Joe, The app is all access menus. This app can search by name, scan logos to access business information, scan qr codes, automotive businesses , restaurants , entertainment, health related businesses, shopping, travel related businesses , follow all access menus on twitter, visit all access on the web, and review all access on the app store. I just downloaded this app the other day and I decided to play around with the app. For example I doubled tapped on the search by name and then theirs a text field I doubled tapp on and the built in keyboard popped up and then I typed in for example Bob Evans and tapped on the search button and many different Bob Evans Restaurants showed up around 42 I think with the different locations of each restaurant. Then I doubled tapped on the Bob Evans location I wanted and it took me to another screen. On this screen for Bob Evans theirs 5 options you can choose from and they are menu, maps, phone, website and 4 square. Anyhow, I doubled tapped on the menu option and hear is where you can read the entire Bob Evans menu. I know I'm going to love this app with all the different things this app can do. So I hope this helps you some. Take care. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi Joe, The app is all access menus. This app can search by name, scan logos to access business information, scan qr codes, automotive businesses , restaurants , entertainment, health related businesses, shopping, travel related businesses , follow all access menus on twitter, visit all access on the web, and review all access on the app store. I just downloaded this app the other day and I decided to play around with the app. For example I doubled tapped on the search by name and then theirs a text field I doubled tapp on and the built in keyboard popped up and then I typed in for example Bob Evans and tapped on the search button and many different Bob Evans Restaurants showed up around 42 I think with the different locations of each restaurant. Then I doubled tapped on the Bob Evans location I wanted and it took me to another screen. On this screen for Bob Evans theirs 5 options you can choose from and they are menu, maps, phone, website and 4 square. Anyhow, I doubled tapped on the menu option and hear is where you can read the entire Bob Evans menu. I know I'm going to love this app with all the different things this app can do. So I hope this helps you some. Take care. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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All Access is another app. I haven't used it much myself, but it uses your location and gives you a list of restaurants near by. If the menus for the restaurant you're interested in have been loaded into the app then you can bring up and read the menu. On 12/06/2014 07:52 PM, Joe wrote: What’s All Access? Is that another app or a specific setting within the KNFB Reader app? -- Musings of a Work in Progress: www.JoeOrozco.com/ Twitter: @ScribblingJoe *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 8:40 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? It works ok, but All Access is much better for restaurant menus because of the variability and size of some of the menus. - Original Message - *From:*SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Sent:*Friday, December 05, 2014 5:55 PM *Subject:*RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com>> wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to v
RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
What’s All Access? Is that another app or a specific setting within the KNFB Reader app? -- Musings of a Work in Progress: www.JoeOrozco.com/ Twitter: @ScribblingJoe From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? It works ok, but All Access is much better for restaurant menus because of the variability and size of some of the menus. - Original Message - From: SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscrib
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
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Are you using it freehand, or are you using a stand?
Andy
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On an iPhone 5 using the most current firmware, I like it very much. I have
had some success accessing a computer monitor and reading info on bottles,
although this was just out of curiosity. Reading 8 and a half by 11 inch
documents works very well. Some business cards can be accessed. Reading
restaurant menus does work. Keep in mind, though, that lighting is important.
One feature I like is the method of centering the document. Other apps, as far
as I know, do not take the fact that you are blind into consideration like the
KNFB reader does. Overall, I am impressed. It is fast and accurate, and
compares very favorably with OpenBook 9 on a laptop PC using Windows XP pro and
a flat bed scanner, and, of course, a heck of a lot more portable and
affordable. (grinning on that last bit)
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Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and
if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves
using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what
things have not?
Thank you.
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Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Well, all I'll say is KNFB Reader isn't as good at reading menus as you would think. In my experience, All Access works better in terms of reading the items quickly and efficiently. The problem with KNFB is the way some menus are laid out and the fact that they are often a lot larger than letter-sized and sometims printed on a glossy background. - Original Message - From: Eden Kizer To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 4:04 AM Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct menu listed. I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with them. eden On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr
Re: KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I got a iphone 5s 64 giv model
Hank
On 12/6/2014 2:17 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
If you don't, you must send me your iPhone if it is newer than a 5,
preferably a 6 plus. (ornery grin)
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*Subject:* Re: KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people
liking KNFB reader?
that was my bad
I should have changed the subject line
On 12/6/2014 12:47 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Although this has nothing to do with how people like the app, I
would just experiment with focusing the camera and seeing what
results you get.
Can't we either stay on topic or change the subject line to
reflect changed subject?
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*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
is there any tricks to use knfb reader to read lcds?
I know it can't update in real time but am curous how folks
have done that using the app.
On 12/6/2014 7:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great
and I use it for reading and sorting my mail which has been
a problem for me the last several years. Just got it last
week so am trying it in different situations.
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes
gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d
like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in
what situations, and what things have worked well and what
things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Re: KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
If you don't, you must send me your iPhone if it is newer than a 5, preferably
a 6 plus. (ornery grin)
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From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people liking KNFB
reader?
that was my bad
I should have changed the subject line
On 12/6/2014 12:47 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Although this has nothing to do with how people like the app, I would just
experiment with focusing the camera and seeing what results you get.
Can't we either stay on topic or change the subject line to reflect changed
subject?
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- Original Message -
From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
is there any tricks to use knfb reader to read lcds?
I know it can't update in real time but am curous how folks have done
that using the app.
On 12/6/2014 7:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use
it for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last
several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards,
and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find
themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well
and what things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
A lot cheaper than hiring a reader.
Andy
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
That's the kicker: it costs $99. Far less than previous OCR solutions from
KNFB, but far more than most people normally spend on apps. I'm really loving
it, but only you can decide if it's worth it. Sadly, the company has flatly
refused to make any sort of trial available before purchase.
On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Paul Roberts wrote:
I must get this as I would find it useful.
Where can I get it and how much please.
Paul.
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From: Eileen Misrahi
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi,
I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu
from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last
night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has
accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. Of
course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on bottles of
wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found that it was hit
and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better job. However, overall
I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more portable and not to have to
use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is nice. I haven't yet
experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The only glitch that I have
seem to find is when I go to change the speed for reading, the app will not
take a picture unless I close it out through the app switcher and relaunch it.
Then the speed of reading will work at the setting that it was changed to.
These are only my first impressions.
Cheers,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it
for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last
several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
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Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards,
and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find
themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well
and what things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Are you using it freehand, or are you using a stand? Andy From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? On an iPhone 5 using the most current firmware, I like it very much. I have had some success accessing a computer monitor and reading info on bottles, although this was just out of curiosity. Reading 8 and a half by 11 inch documents works very well. Some business cards can be accessed. Reading restaurant menus does work. Keep in mind, though, that lighting is important. One feature I like is the method of centering the document. Other apps, as far as I know, do not take the fact that you are blind into consideration like the KNFB reader does. Overall, I am impressed. It is fast and accurate, and compares very favorably with OpenBook 9 on a laptop PC using Windows XP pro and a flat bed scanner, and, of course, a heck of a lot more portable and affordable. (grinning on that last bit) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Paul Ferrara To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
that was my bad
I should have changed the subject line
On 12/6/2014 12:47 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Although this has nothing to do with how people like the app, I would
just experiment with focusing the camera and seeing what results you get.
Can't we either stay on topic or change the subject line to reflect
changed subject?
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*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
is there any tricks to use knfb reader to read lcds?
I know it can't update in real time but am curous how folks have
done that using the app.
On 12/6/2014 7:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and
I use it for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem
for me the last several years. Just got it last week so am trying
it in different situations.
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift
cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know
if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and
what things have worked well and what things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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KNFB to read other than print? - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Although this has nothing to do with how people like the app, I would just
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Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
is there any tricks to use knfb reader to read lcds?
I know it can't update in real time but am curous how folks have done that
using the app.
On 12/6/2014 7:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it
for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last
several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
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Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and
if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves
using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what
things have not?
Thank you.
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is there any tricks to use knfb reader to read lcds? I know it can't update in real time but am curous how folks have done that using the app. On 12/6/2014 7:01 AM, David Redman wrote: I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Ferrara *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* how are people liking KNFB reader? All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: menu access - Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I was focused on the menu access issue. I think KNFB Reader is one of the best apps to come along in a long time. I was very suspect when I heard it was going to cost $99.99. But, it is worth it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: menu access - Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? Good ideas, but they say nothing about what you think of the app. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" To: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:07 PM Subject: RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? Another option for menus if you know ahead of time where you are going is checking to see if the menu is online before you go to the restaurant. You can spend some unpressured time reading through it and at least narrow down your choices before you get there. Obviously, not all online menus are accessible or even there, but that is becoming more and more common. Some of my favorite restaurants even post their specials for dinner by about 2PM, so I can even check to see what those are and don't have to ask when I get there. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I think we're falling into that area where people are assuming what works for them works for everyone else or that all situations are the same. I'll probably fall into the same trap myself, but if I'm at a restaurant with my family, and my wife is there, then I'll go through the menu with her. If it's just my boys then I'd scan the menu myself. My boys are good boys, and they wouldn't mind reading the menu to their old man, but I can tell when they do they'd rather be talking about sports or video games while I'm looking over the menu myself. I also go to plenty of restaurants with friends, who although their spoken English is good, they have trouble reading the menu in say an Italian restaurant. Sure there are times when I'd have someone read or discuss the menu with me but there are other times when I could use the KNFB Reader to be more independent, and I wouldn't be doing it just to show off. Similarly for an elevator. If someone asks what floor do you want to go to, I'll just tell them. I won't use the braille buttons just because they're there. If no one speaks up though, or I'm on the elevator myself, then I'm sure glad they're there. On 12/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Eden, > > Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use > KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what > they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? > > I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an > elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I > don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if > others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can > just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a > restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to > use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, > but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes > a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not > independent just because they are reading this information for me. > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Eden Kizer > *Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people > liking KNFB reader? > > We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I > can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly > to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they > think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants > don't have the correct menu listed. > > I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my > independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu > with them. > > eden > > On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: > > In my opinion, using the KNFB r
menu access - Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Good ideas, but they say nothing about what you think of the app.
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From: "Richard Turner"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking
KNFB reader?
Another option for menus if you know ahead of time where you are going is
checking to see if the menu is online before you go to the restaurant.
You can spend some unpressured time reading through it and at least narrow
down your choices before you get there.
Obviously, not all online menus are accessible or even there, but that is
becoming more and more common.
Some of my favorite restaurants even post their specials for dinner by about
2PM, so I can even check to see what those are and don't have to ask when I
get there.
Richard
-Original Message-
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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking
KNFB reader?
I think we're falling into that area where people are assuming what
works for them works for everyone else or that all situations are the
same. I'll probably fall into the same trap myself, but if I'm at a
restaurant with my family, and my wife is there, then I'll go through
the menu with her. If it's just my boys then I'd scan the menu myself.
My boys are good boys, and they wouldn't mind reading the menu to their
old man, but I can tell when they do they'd rather be talking about
sports or video games while I'm looking over the menu myself. I also go
to plenty of restaurants with friends, who although their spoken English
is good, they have trouble reading the menu in say an Italian
restaurant. Sure there are times when I'd have someone read or discuss
the menu with me but there are other times when I could use the KNFB
Reader to be more independent, and I wouldn't be doing it just to show off.
Similarly for an elevator. If someone asks what floor do you want to go
to, I'll just tell them. I won't use the braille buttons just because
they're there. If no one speaks up though, or I'm on the elevator
myself, then I'm sure glad they're there.
On 12/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Eden,
Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use
KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what
they want and then wait to see if you get a good result?
I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an
elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I
don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if
others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can
just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a
restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to
use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it,
but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes
a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not
independent just because they are reading this information for me.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Eden Kizer
*Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people
liking KNFB reader?
We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I
can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly
to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they
think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants
don't have the correct menu listed.
I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my
independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu
with them.
eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended
purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make
a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or
to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind
blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You
are, in actuality, being more independent.
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RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Another option for menus if you know ahead of time where you are going is checking to see if the menu is online before you go to the restaurant. You can spend some unpressured time reading through it and at least narrow down your choices before you get there. Obviously, not all online menus are accessible or even there, but that is becoming more and more common. Some of my favorite restaurants even post their specials for dinner by about 2PM, so I can even check to see what those are and don't have to ask when I get there. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I think we're falling into that area where people are assuming what works for them works for everyone else or that all situations are the same. I'll probably fall into the same trap myself, but if I'm at a restaurant with my family, and my wife is there, then I'll go through the menu with her. If it's just my boys then I'd scan the menu myself. My boys are good boys, and they wouldn't mind reading the menu to their old man, but I can tell when they do they'd rather be talking about sports or video games while I'm looking over the menu myself. I also go to plenty of restaurants with friends, who although their spoken English is good, they have trouble reading the menu in say an Italian restaurant. Sure there are times when I'd have someone read or discuss the menu with me but there are other times when I could use the KNFB Reader to be more independent, and I wouldn't be doing it just to show off. Similarly for an elevator. If someone asks what floor do you want to go to, I'll just tell them. I won't use the braille buttons just because they're there. If no one speaks up though, or I'm on the elevator myself, then I'm sure glad they're there. On 12/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Eden, > > Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use > KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what > they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? > > I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an > elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I > don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if > others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can > just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a > restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to > use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, > but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes > a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not > independent just because they are reading this information for me. > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Eden Kizer > *Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people > liking KNFB reader? > > We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I > can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly > to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they > think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants > don't have the correct menu listed. > > I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my > independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu > with them. > > eden > > On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: > > In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended > purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make > a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or > to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind > blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You > are, in actuality, being more independent. > > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM > > *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB re
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I think we're falling into that area where people are assuming what works for them works for everyone else or that all situations are the same. I'll probably fall into the same trap myself, but if I'm at a restaurant with my family, and my wife is there, then I'll go through the menu with her. If it's just my boys then I'd scan the menu myself. My boys are good boys, and they wouldn't mind reading the menu to their old man, but I can tell when they do they'd rather be talking about sports or video games while I'm looking over the menu myself. I also go to plenty of restaurants with friends, who although their spoken English is good, they have trouble reading the menu in say an Italian restaurant. Sure there are times when I'd have someone read or discuss the menu with me but there are other times when I could use the KNFB Reader to be more independent, and I wouldn't be doing it just to show off. Similarly for an elevator. If someone asks what floor do you want to go to, I'll just tell them. I won't use the braille buttons just because they're there. If no one speaks up though, or I'm on the elevator myself, then I'm sure glad they're there. On 12/06/2014 09:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Eden, Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not independent just because they are reading this information for me. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Eden Kizer *Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct menu listed. I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with them. eden On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - *From:* Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy *From:* SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegrou
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Ah, but as the subject line asks, how do you like the KNFB reader? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Alan J Paganelli To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We enjoy going to the Olive Garden restaurant. When the server notices that I’m blind, they usually offer me a menu in braille or if I like, they say they would be pleased to read the menu to me. Rarely do you find a chain that teaches it’s servers something like that. They also have their menues online as well. Regards, Alan Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! From: Andy Baracco Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
We enjoy going to the Olive Garden restaurant. When the server notices that I’m blind, they usually offer me a menu in braille or if I like, they say they would be pleased to read the menu to me. Rarely do you find a chain that teaches it’s servers something like that. They also have their menues online as well. Regards, Alan Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! From: Andy Baracco Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
In the app store for $99.
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From: Paul Roberts
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I must get this as I would find it useful.
Where can I get it and how much please.
Paul.
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From: Eileen Misrahi
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi,
I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu
from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last
night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has
accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. Of
course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on bottles of
wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found that it was hit
and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better job. However, overall
I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more portable and not to have to
use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is nice. I haven't yet
experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The only glitch that I have
seem to find is when I go to change the speed for reading, the app will not
take a picture unless I close it out through the app switcher and relaunch it.
Then the speed of reading will work at the setting that it was changed to.
These are only my first impressions.
Cheers,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it
for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last
several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards,
and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find
themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well
and what things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi, This is only a suggestion. Over the Black Friday sales, there were a few options to reduce the cost of the KNFB Reader with sales on iTunes cards. Paypal had a $100 card for $75 and Office Depot had $50 cards for 40 (limit one per (customer). I got around that one by having my husband purchase one. So in essence, I got the app on sale. HTH. Eileen Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > That's the kicker: it costs $99. Far less than previous OCR solutions from > KNFB, but far more than most people normally spend on apps. I'm really loving > it, but only you can decide if it's worth it. Sadly, the company has flatly > refused to make any sort of trial available before purchase. >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Paul Roberts wrote: >> >> I must get this as I would find it useful. >> >> Where can I get it and how much please. >> >> Paul. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Eileen Misrahi >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:26 PM >>> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu >>> from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last >>> night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has >>> accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. >>> Of course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on >>> bottles of wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found >>> that it was hit and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better >>> job. However, overall I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more >>> portable and not to have to use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is >>> nice. I haven't yet experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The >>> only glitch that I have seem to find is when I go to change the speed for >>> reading, the app will not take a picture unless I close it out through the >>> app switcher and relaunch it. Then the speed of reading will work at the >>> setting that it was changed to. These are only my first impressions. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Eileen >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman wrote: >>>> >>>> I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it >>>> for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last >>>> several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different >>>> situations. >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Paul Ferrara >>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? >>>> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >>>> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >>>> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >>>> well and what things have not? >>>> Thank you. >>>> Paul >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >>>> for this list can be searched at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moder
RE: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi Eden, Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use KNFB Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they want and then wait to see if you get a good result? I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I don’t have to push the correct button just because it has braille if others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a restaurant menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a conversation anyways and I don’t feel that anybody thinks I am not independent just because they are reading this information for me. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eden Kizer Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't have the correct menu listed. I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu with them. eden On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com> > wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegrou
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
That's the kicker: it costs $99. Far less than previous OCR solutions from KNFB, but far more than most people normally spend on apps. I'm really loving it, but only you can decide if it's worth it. Sadly, the company has flatly refused to make any sort of trial available before purchase. > On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Paul Roberts wrote: > > I must get this as I would find it useful. > > Where can I get it and how much please. > > Paul. >> - Original Message - >> From: Eileen Misrahi <mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:26 PM >> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> Hi, >> >> I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu >> from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last >> night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has >> accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. >> Of course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on >> bottles of wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found >> that it was hit and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better >> job. However, overall I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more >> portable and not to have to use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is >> nice. I haven't yet experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The >> only glitch that I have seem to find is when I go to change the speed for >> reading, the app will not take a picture unless I close it out through the >> app switcher and relaunch it. Then the speed of reading will work at the >> setting that it was changed to. These are only my first impressions. >> >> Cheers, >> Eileen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman > <mailto:davidredma...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it >>> for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last >>> several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different >>> situations. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Paul Ferrara >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? >>> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >>> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >>> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >>> well and what things have not? >>> Thank you. >>> Paul >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/>. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I must get this as I would find it useful.
Where can I get it and how much please.
Paul.
- Original Message -
From: Eileen Misrahi
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi,
I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu
from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last
night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has
accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. Of
course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on bottles of
wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found that it was hit
and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better job. However, overall
I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more portable and not to have to
use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is nice. I haven't yet
experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The only glitch that I have
seem to find is when I go to change the speed for reading, the app will not
take a picture unless I close it out through the app switcher and relaunch it.
Then the speed of reading will work at the setting that it was changed to.
These are only my first impressions.
Cheers,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman wrote:
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it
for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last
several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and
if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves
using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what
things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Hi, I just purchased KNFB Reader last Monday. I had picked up a take out menu from a restaurant printed on glossy paper and it scanned it perfectly. Last night, I began to scan the tccemendous amount of paperwork, that has accumulated over the years at my computer dest;" The accuracy was amazing. Of course, most of the papers were 8 X 11. I did try the KNFB Reader on bottles of wine, credit cards, DVD disks, `igital LED read ous and found that it was hit and miss on these items. Other apps tended to do a better job. However, overall I'm impress with the app and the ability to be more portable and not to have to use the StandScan Pro with a third party app is nice. I haven't yet experimented with a book or magazine in batch mode. The only glitch that I have seem to find is when I go to change the speed for reading, the app will not take a picture unless I close it out through the app switcher and relaunch it. Then the speed of reading will work at the setting that it was changed to. These are only my first impressions. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:01 AM, David Redman wrote: > > I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it for > reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last several > years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Paul Ferrara > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if > I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves > using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what > things have not? > > Thank you. > > Paul > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love it! I have it running on the I phone 6, it runs great and I use it for reading and sorting my mail which has been a problem for me the last several years. Just got it last week so am trying it in different situations. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Ferrara Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I will just say this. Scanning freehand, I was able to sort my mail last night with no sighted help at all. Only twice did I have to re-scan something, and again, that was with no scanning stand or other guide. No, the scans weren't word-perfect, but they were good, and enough to tell me what was what. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 6, 2014, at 07:39, Flor Lynch wrote: > > Thanks for that explanation, David. > > - Original Message - > From: David Chittenden > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:19 AM > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > There is only one problem with the suggestion of more than one OCR engine. On > the computer, OCR engines require quite a bit of processing power. They do > not work on mobile platforms. Fine Reader on iOS is not the same OCR engine. > It has been redeveloped to fit the lower requirements of mobile operating > systems. I am not aware of any other OCR engines for mobile platforms. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 6 Dec 2014, at 14:45, Flor Lynch wrote: >> >> it may be possible (in the event of it not being online), the restaurant >> could give you in advance a printed menu so you could scan that with the >> KNFB Reader. Having said that, perhaps KNFB Reader should offer a choice of >> OCR engines - between (say) FineReader and ScanSoft. I've seen instances >> recently where FineReader was pretty hopeless, on both Kurzweil 1000 and on >> KNFB Reader; but where the ScanSoft OCR did better with some restaurant >> menus (On K1000). Also, I know that typefaces (Italic type, which may be >> unusual in these menus) presents a problem for FineReader OC, and maybe any >> OCR engine. >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: Andy Baracco >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:08 AM >> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> >> When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding >> everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better >> yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the >> restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. >> >> Andy >> >> From: SSEric >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind >> putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to >> use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and >> accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. >> Thanks! >> Eric >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Alan Lemly >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? >> I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents >> like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and >> am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. >> >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: >>> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >>> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >>> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >>> well and what things have not? >>> Thank you. >>> Paul >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Vi
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Thanks for that explanation, David. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 2:19 AM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? There is only one problem with the suggestion of more than one OCR engine. On the computer, OCR engines require quite a bit of processing power. They do not work on mobile platforms. Fine Reader on iOS is not the same OCR engine. It has been redeveloped to fit the lower requirements of mobile operating systems. I am not aware of any other OCR engines for mobile platforms. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 6 Dec 2014, at 14:45, Flor Lynch wrote: it may be possible (in the event of it not being online), the restaurant could give you in advance a printed menu so you could scan that with the KNFB Reader. Having said that, perhaps KNFB Reader should offer a choice of OCR engines - between (say) FineReader and ScanSoft. I've seen instances recently where FineReader was pretty hopeless, on both Kurzweil 1000 and on KNFB Reader; but where the ScanSoft OCR did better with some restaurant menus (On K1000). Also, I know that typefaces (Italic type, which may be unusual in these menus) presents a problem for FineReader OC, and maybe any OCR engine. - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:08 AM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I
can easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly
to where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they
think look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants
don't have the correct menu listed.
I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my
independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu
with them.
eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes
is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone
call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those
at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey,
look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality,
being more independent.
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- Original Message -
*From:* Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea
of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a
Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my
time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone
apps like All Access Menus.
Andy
*From:* SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or
mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it
really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am
wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which
can vary widely in format and quality.
Thanks!
Eric
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper
documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5
running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is.
Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com>> wrote:
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift
cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know
if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and
what things have worked well and what things have not?
Thank you.
Paul
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Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
On an iPhone 5 using the most current firmware, I like it very much. I have had some success accessing a computer monitor and reading info on bottles, although this was just out of curiosity. Reading 8 and a half by 11 inch documents works very well. Some business cards can be accessed. Reading restaurant menus does work. Keep in mind, though, that lighting is important. One feature I like is the method of centering the document. Other apps, as far as I know, do not take the fact that you are blind into consideration like the KNFB reader does. Overall, I am impressed. It is fast and accurate, and compares very favorably with OpenBook 9 on a laptop PC using Windows XP pro and a flat bed scanner, and, of course, a heck of a lot more portable and affordable. (grinning on that last bit) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Paul Ferrara To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: how are people liking KNFB reader? All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
menus and the KNFB - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
It can be done, it works, and it makes me more independent. To me, that's what matters. I prefer reading rather than being read to. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: SSEric To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em
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In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call. You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing? Hey, look what I can do, folks? Isn't that cool?? You are, in actuality, being more independent. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vi
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
There is only one problem with the suggestion of more than one OCR engine. On the computer, OCR engines require quite a bit of processing power. They do not work on mobile platforms. Fine Reader on iOS is not the same OCR engine. It has been redeveloped to fit the lower requirements of mobile operating systems. I am not aware of any other OCR engines for mobile platforms. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Dec 2014, at 14:45, Flor Lynch wrote: > > it may be possible (in the event of it not being online), the restaurant > could give you in advance a printed menu so you could scan that with the KNFB > Reader. Having said that, perhaps KNFB Reader should offer a choice of OCR > engines - between (say) FineReader and ScanSoft. I've seen instances recently > where FineReader was pretty hopeless, on both Kurzweil 1000 and on KNFB > Reader; but where the ScanSoft OCR did better with some restaurant menus (On > K1000). Also, I know that typefaces (Italic type, which may be unusual in > these menus) presents a problem for FineReader OC, and maybe any OCR engine. > > - Original Message - > From: Andy Baracco > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:08 AM > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding > everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better > yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the > restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. > > Andy > > From: SSEric > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? > Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting > of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the > KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy > of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. > > Thanks! > > Eric > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? > > I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents > like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am > amazed at how quick and accurate it is. > > > Alan Lemly > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: >> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >> well and what things have not? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to vip
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love it! Running it on a 5S with iOS 8.11. On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Marianne Denning wrote: > I love it. I am running it on the iPhone 5s with version 7. I > have not upgraded yet. > > On 12/5/14, Paul Ferrara wrote: >> All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and >> if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find >> themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked >> well and what things have not? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired > (513) 607-6053 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
it may be possible (in the event of it not being online), the restaurant could give you in advance a printed menu so you could scan that with the KNFB Reader. Having said that, perhaps KNFB Reader should offer a choice of OCR engines - between (say) FineReader and ScanSoft. I've seen instances recently where FineReader was pretty hopeless, on both Kurzweil 1000 and on KNFB Reader; but where the ScanSoft OCR did better with some restaurant menus (On K1000). Also, I know that typefaces (Italic type, which may be unusual in these menus) presents a problem for FineReader OC, and maybe any OCR engine. - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:08 AM Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T
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It works ok, but All Access is much better for restaurant menus because of the variability and size of some of the menus. - Original Message - From: SSEric To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I agree apps like All Access, on line menus or braille menus are great alternatives, but if none of these are available, using your OCR app isn't showing off, and having someone read the menu to you is also holding people up. On 12/05/2014 07:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy *From:* SSEric <mailto:sseri...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" mailto:paul.ferr...@twc.com>> wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don’t like the idea of holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu, or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i go to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus. Andy From: SSEric Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader? Besides those who don’t mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai
RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and quality. Thanks! Eric _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader? I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader-but I'd like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" wrote: > > All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and > if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find > themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked > well and what things have not? > > Thank you. > > Paul > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?
I love it. I am running it on the iPhone 5s with version 7. I have not upgraded yet. On 12/5/14, Paul Ferrara wrote: > All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and > if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find > themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked > well and what things have not? > > Thank you. > > Paul > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
how are people liking KNFB reader?
All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, and if I did, I would get KNFB Reader—but I’d like to know if folks find themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have worked well and what things have not? Thank you. Paul -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
