Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Dave Clement]

Hi Richard, I don't know about BARD books as I am in Canada, but I have found the same thing is true for Kindle books. I have had to redownload my Kindle books after upgrading to a new phone. The Kindle library info is preserved  but to read any book, you have to redownload it. I hope this can be improved in the future, or, if it has already been improved, please let me know. Dave ClementWinnipeg MBOn Jun 2, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I do not believe BARD books get backed up. I've always had to download them after restoring a backup on a new phone. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 2, 2024, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books back again. Obviously,
 I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to back up your iPhone.
 

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Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.

Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!






On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:




When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. 

 


Arnold Schmidt 


 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3



On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura <number6...@gmail.com> wrote:


 

It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be accessed
 through user-level applications like File or File Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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RE: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, I suspect you’re right. I went into the list of apps  you can backup, and 
I don’t see BARD listed. I’m assuming apps have to register themselves somehow 
to get backed up. Oh well, it’s not a big deal to me since the only books I 
have downloaded are those I’m currently reading or about to read.

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I do not believe BARD books get backed up. I've always had to download them 
after restoring a backup on a new phone.


Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Jun 2, 2024, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your 
backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books 
back again. Obviously, I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, 
when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to 
back up your iPhone.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The 
only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I 
know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.
Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!



On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books 
transferred. My Voice Dream library did.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura 
mailto:number6...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I 
even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data 
transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files 
that cannot be accessed through user-level applications like File or File 
Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device 
to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must 
it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe BARD books get backed up. I've always had to download them after restoring a backup on a new phone. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 2, 2024, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books back again. Obviously,
 I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to back up your iPhone.
 

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On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone


 
Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.

Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!






On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:




When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. 

 


Arnold Schmidt 


 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3



On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura <number6...@gmail.com> wrote:


 

It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be accessed
 through user-level applications like File or File Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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RE: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Christopher Chaltain]

Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your 
backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books 
back again. Obviously, I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, 
when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to 
back up your iPhone.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The 
only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I 
know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.
Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!


On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books 
transferred. My Voice Dream library did.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura 
mailto:number6...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I 
even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data 
transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files 
that cannot be accessed through user-level applications like File or File 
Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device 
to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must 
it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  


  
  
It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by
  since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the
  process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some
  applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be
  accessed through user-level applications like File or File
  Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books
  from one device to another without having to re-download them? If
  so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a
  store?

  




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Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Arnold Schmidt]

When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  


  
  
It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by
  since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the
  process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some
  applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be
  accessed through user-level applications like File or File
  Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books
  from one device to another without having to re-download them? If
  so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a
  store?

  




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RE: Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I recently restored my iPhone back to factory settings. I was able to get 
everything back by backing everything up to the cloud and then restoring it. 
Apple provides a temporary increase in iCloud storage to support things like 
this or setting up a new phone.

There's also Quick Start which transfers everything over via Bluetooth.

You can read up on these as well as the option to use your computer,, at How to 
Transfer Data From iPhone to iPhone 
(lifewire.com)<https://www.lifewire.com/transfer-data-from-iphone-to-iphone-8550825>

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring Files to a New Phone


It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I 
even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data 
transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files 
that cannot be accessed through user-level applications like File or File 
Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device 
to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must 
it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Transferring Files to a New Phone

[Steve Matzura]

It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since 
last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of 
getting data transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically 
BARD, have files that cannot be accessed through user-level applications 
like File or File Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of 
BARD books from one device to another without having to re-download 
them? If so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician 
at a store?


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RE: Transferring Facial ID To New Phone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to set it up again on a new phone. You can do this during the initial 
setup process or do it later in Settings > Face Id and Passwords.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2023 11:16 AM
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Hi, Group.
Would my facial ID automatically be transferred to 15Pro from 12 or I‘d have to 
reset it?
Thanks!

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Re: Transferring Facial ID To New Phone?

[joseph hudson]

When you set up the new phone, you have to redo your face ID. Face ID or touch 
ID only go from phone to phone.
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> On Sep 15, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> Would my facial ID automatically be transferred to 15Pro from 12 or I‘d have 
> to reset it?
> Thanks!
>  
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Transferring Facial ID To New Phone?

[Mohammad Fazil]

Hi, Group.
Would my facial ID automatically be transferred to 15Pro from 12 or I'd have to 
reset it?
Thanks!

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Re: Restoring Settings To A New Phone

[Gerardo Corripio]

When the phone powers on, and when it asks you from where you want to restore, 
choose iCloud, but make sure it's the most recent date of the restored copy. 
From there, the phone will begin downloading transferring iPhone settings 
(including VoiceOver one), as well as downloading and arranging your apps as 
you had it before on the previous phone. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 12 sep 2023, a la(s) 8:15 a.m., Lynn White  
> escribió:
> 
> My wife lost her iPhone 12 Pro and a replacement is coming today.
> 
> All of her data has been saved to the iCloud. Can someone walk me through the 
> steps to restoring the phone to what was on the original phone, or as close 
> as possible.?
> 
> Thanks.
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Restoring Settings To A New Phone

[Lynn White]

My wife lost her iPhone 12 Pro and a replacement is coming today.

All of her data has been saved to the iCloud. Can someone walk me 
through the steps to restoring the phone to what was on the original 
phone, or as close as possible.?


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Setting up Widgets on New Phone

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, all.


Saturday I got a new iPhone 14 Pro.  All is going well, except I can't 
figure out how to get the Weather Gods Widgets to work on the locked 
screen.  All I hear is Weather Gods no data when I'm swiping around.  
Notifications are turned on in Weather Gods and in the notification 
center.  Any ideas?


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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My iPhone 11 and now my new iPhone 13 Pro don't stop at 80% either. If I put 
any of them on the charger at 10 or 11 PM they go right up to 100% in whatever 
time that takes which of course depends on how low they were, but typically 
within 2 hours at most. I wouldn't worry too much about leaving it on the 
charger, as an example, my Asus laptop probably has been sittting at home 
plugged in more than 99% of the time since I got it 6 years ago and the battery 
still does pretty well. We were doing a complete inventory count at my retail 
store today and this is done on Lightspeed Retail, an online point of sale 
system, there is a USB scanner connected to the laptop and I brought both my 
Asus Zenbook with an I67 sixth generation CPU as well as a new Lenovo ThinkPad 
T16 which also has an I7 processor, but a 12th generation and we had to plug 
the brand new Lenovo in before my old Asus. Of course that may be also because 
I haven't spend hardly any time with it yet tweaking any settings, screen 
brightness and so on, but it goes to show how good and in a way smart modern 
Lithium batteries are. Many people get a new phone every 2 years and some even 
every year but even if you keep your phone for 3, 4 or 5 years then all it 
takes is a $49 or whatever battery replacement after 2 or 3 years and you are 
good again.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it would 
get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after learning 
your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never stopped at 80 
percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when it already is 
over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery optimization just 
didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am not quite sure what 
is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone connected to power for 
days, I have always been a little skeptical about its being all that bad to 
leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs itself up while connected and 
the screen locked. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
always at 100%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent 
all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. 
Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you 
wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will 
stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 
100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it 
on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule 
isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your 
phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary 
stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Thank you for your post.
> 
> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
> no detrimental affect on the device.
> 
> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
> know; just a thought.
> 
> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
> before you wake up. Lit

RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Carolyn]

Chris, that is what I am doing now, as I understand that batteries will last 
way longer doing it that way. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?


Optimized battery charging does not stop charging your battery once it reaches 
80%.  Instead, it slows down the charging process, and tries to go by your past 
charging habits to time it reaching 100% as close to when you normally take it 
off the charger.
So basically once it reaches 80%, it trickle charges slowly until it reaches 
100%.  This is how its always worked.

Now me personally, I keep my battery between 25% and 85%, because this does 
help prolong the life of your battery.  But I do this myself, it is nothing the 
battery optimization does for me.  My iPhone 11 Pro that I used until last week 
still had a battery life of 100% after 3 years of use.

In regards to the Battery optimization, here is an article from Apple Support 
explaining it.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it 
> would get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after 
> learning your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never 
> stopped at 80 percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when 
> it already is over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery 
> optimization just didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am 
> not quite sure what is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone 
> connected to power for days, I have always been a little skeptical about its 
> being all that bad to leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs 
> itself up while connected and the screen locked. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
> at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
> always at 100%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 
> percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from 
> happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone 
> in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. 
> Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in 
> order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than 
> usual and put it on the charger early, it would then charge all the way 
> because the new schedule isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better 
> if you don't keep your phone plugged in all the time. It would put your 
> battery under unnecessary stress and could make your battery health degrade a 
> little quicker.
> 
>> On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> 
>> Thank you for your post.
>> 
>> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
>> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
>> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
>> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
>> no detrimental affect on the device.
>> 
>> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
>> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
>> know; just a thought.
>> 
>> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
>> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
>> 
>> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
>> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
>> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent 
>> for most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 
>&

RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Christopher Chaltain]

My understanding is the same as Chris's. 
https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-optimized-battery-charging-on-iphone-5210118#:~:text=Optimized%20Battery%20Charging%20helps%20to%20improve%20battery%20health,charger%20and%20delays%20charging%20to%20100%25%20until%20then.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?


Optimized battery charging does not stop charging your battery once it reaches 
80%.  Instead, it slows down the charging process, and tries to go by your past 
charging habits to time it reaching 100% as close to when you normally take it 
off the charger.
So basically once it reaches 80%, it trickle charges slowly until it reaches 
100%.  This is how its always worked.

Now me personally, I keep my battery between 25% and 85%, because this does 
help prolong the life of your battery.  But I do this myself, it is nothing the 
battery optimization does for me.  My iPhone 11 Pro that I used until last week 
still had a battery life of 100% after 3 years of use.

In regards to the Battery optimization, here is an article from Apple Support 
explaining it.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen-us%2FHT210512&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cb9cf0bc2b0f045333c6d08dae8fc6629%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638078467985407110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KTrSrLpxi6asikGks8pA12t65yVA1ZlIU8%2BOSRjJH98%3D&reserved=0

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it 
> would get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after 
> learning your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never 
> stopped at 80 percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when 
> it already is over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery 
> optimization just didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am 
> not quite sure what is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone 
> connected to power for days, I have always been a little skeptical about its 
> being all that bad to leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs 
> itself up while connected and the screen locked. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
> at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
> always at 100%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 
> percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from 
> happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone 
> in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. 
> Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in 
> order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than 
> usual and put it on the charger early, it would then charge all the way 
> because the new schedule isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better 
> if you don't keep your phone plugged in all the time. It would put your 
> battery under unnecessary stress and could make your battery health degrade a 
> little quicker.
> 
>> On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> 
>> Thank you for your post.
>> 
>> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
>> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
>> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
>> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
>> no detrimental affect on the device.
>> 
>> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
>> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
>> know; just a thought.
>> 
>> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
>> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-

RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

As is mine, also, Sieghard.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's at 
30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is always 
at 100%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent 
all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. 
Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you 
wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will 
stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 
100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it 
on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule 
isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your 
phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary 
stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
>
> Thank you for your post.
>
> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
> no detrimental affect on the device.
>
> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
> know; just a thought.
>
> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
>
> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
> before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
> under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below 
> about
> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
> points is best for long life.
>
> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
>> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>>
>> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
>> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
>> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>>
>> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
>> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
>> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>>
>> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
>> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
>> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>>
>> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
>> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>>
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Chris Chaffin]

Optimized battery charging does not stop charging your battery once it reaches 
80%.  Instead, it slows down the charging process, and tries to go by your past 
charging habits to time it reaching 100% as close to when you normally take it 
off the charger.
So basically once it reaches 80%, it trickle charges slowly until it reaches 
100%.  This is how its always worked.

Now me personally, I keep my battery between 25% and 85%, because this does 
help prolong the life of your battery.  But I do this myself, it is nothing the 
battery optimization does for me.  My iPhone 11 Pro that I used until last week 
still had a battery life of 100% after 3 years of use.

In regards to the Battery optimization, here is an article from Apple Support 
explaining it.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it 
> would get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after 
> learning your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never 
> stopped at 80 percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when 
> it already is over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery 
> optimization just didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am 
> not quite sure what is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone 
> connected to power for days, I have always been a little skeptical about its 
> being all that bad to leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs 
> itself up while connected and the screen locked. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
> at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
> always at 100%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 
> percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from 
> happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone 
> in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. 
> Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in 
> order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than 
> usual and put it on the charger early, it would then charge all the way 
> because the new schedule isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better 
> if you don't keep your phone plugged in all the time. It would put your 
> battery under unnecessary stress and could make your battery health degrade a 
> little quicker.
> 
>> On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> 
>> Thank you for your post.
>> 
>> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
>> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
>> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
>> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
>> no detrimental affect on the device.
>> 
>> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
>> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
>> know; just a thought.
>> 
>> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
>> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
>> 
>> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
>> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
>> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
>> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
>> before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
>> under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below 
>> about
>> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
>> points is best for long life.
>> 
>>> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M.

Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I thought the way battery optimization was supposed to work was that it would 
get to 80 percent and stop, and would only go on to 100 percent after learning 
your schedule, or every 24 hours, or whatever. Mine has never stopped at 80 
percent, neither has it refused to charge if I plug it in when it already is 
over 80 percent. I have always just figured that battery optimization just 
didn't work on the cheap phones, for whatever reason. I am not quite sure what 
is going on. Although I wouldn't want to leave my phone connected to power for 
days, I have always been a little skeptical about its being all that bad to 
leave it connected for hours. After all, it backs itself up while connected and 
the screen locked. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Dec 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's 
at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is 
always at 100%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent 
all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. 
Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you 
wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will 
stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 
100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it 
on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule 
isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your 
phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary 
stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> 
> Thank you for your post.
> 
> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
> no detrimental affect on the device.
> 
> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
> know; just a thought.
> 
> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
> 
> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
> before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
> under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below 
> about
> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
> points is best for long life.
> 
> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
>> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>> 
>> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
>> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
>> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>> 
>> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
>> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
>> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>> 
>> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
>> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
>> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>> 
>> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
>> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's at 
30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is always 
at 100%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent 
all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. 
Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you 
wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will 
stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 
100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it 
on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule 
isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your 
phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary 
stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
>
> Thank you for your post.
>
> So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that 
> even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% 
> even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would 
> lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have 
> no detrimental affect on the device.
>
> Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 
> 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't 
> know; just a thought.
>
> You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think 
> of printers; boring but necessary (smile).
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?
>
> It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
> added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
> This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
> most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
> before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
> under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below 
> about
> 15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
> points is best for long life.
>
> On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
>> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>>
>> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
>> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
>> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>>
>> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
>> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
>> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>>
>> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
>> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
>> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>>
>> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
>> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>>
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Gordon]

Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 
percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this 
from happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug 
your phone in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent 
around 12:30. Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will 
resume charging in order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you 
use your phone more than usual and put it on the charger early, it would 
then charge all the way because the new schedule isn't recognized. so 
according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your phone plugged in 
all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary stress and 
could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.


On 12/27/2022 8:29 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your post.

So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that even 
when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% even 
though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would lead me 
to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have no 
detrimental affect on the device.

Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 2022, 
they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't know; 
just a thought.

You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think of 
printers; boring but necessary (smile).

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for most of 
the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent before you wake 
up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are under the most stress 
when fully charged at 100 percent and below about
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these points 
is best for long life.

On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that
discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended
that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the
conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in
use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to
the life of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my
iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have the optimize battery health thing turned on, but if I put my iPhone 11 
on the wireless charging pad when I go to bed say around 11 and I check it when 
I wake up around 2 or 3 then it's always at 100%. Not sure how this charging to 
80% is supposed to work with the balance getting topped off towards morning. I 
have a sleep focus set which turns on wind down at 10:30 PM and my alarm goes 
off at 7 AM so if the phone uses this as a guideline for when my battery should 
be fully charged on would expect that it goes to 80% until around maybe 5 or 6 
AM and then the remaining 20% are done and this is not the case.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:21 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hello Alan,

Great advice.  I just checked and the optimize battery life is enabled.

I am having fun tweaking the new phone so that it is just right; you know me 
well (smile).  And actually, you're right, it is kind of fun exploring all of 
the new settings that were not available on my beloved 8 Plus.

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:05 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I don't leave my iPhone 13 Mini on a charger when not in use but I do have it 
connected to a charger when I go to bed at night. I would recommend you go to 
Settings, Battery, Battery health and charging and make sure Optimized battery 
charging is turned on. On that same screen, you can check what your battery's 
maximum capacity is and mine is at 94% after a year and two months of use which 
I'm satisfied with.

Enjoy your new iPhone 14 Pro and all the best getting it customized exactly to 
your liking.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged 
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that one 
not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was thought 
that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is 
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way 
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the contrary?  
If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life of the 
battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone battery 
healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Richard Turner]

I have the 13 pro with the Apple wireless charger that I believe is labeled 
MagSafe.

I have Battery optimization on.
The phone always charges to 100%, though it also says "charging"

These are nits I choose not to pick.




Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your post.  

So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that even 
when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% even 
though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would lead me 
to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have no 
detrimental affect on the device.

Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 2022, 
they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't know; 
just a thought.

You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think of 
printers; boring but necessary (smile).

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging. 
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for most of 
the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent before you wake 
up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are under the most stress 
when fully charged at 100 percent and below about
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these points 
is best for long life.

On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>
> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.
> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>
> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>
> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>
> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>

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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your post.  

So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that even 
when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% even 
though the A/C current is available, or so I would think.  This would lead me 
to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have no 
detrimental affect on the device.

Batteries, batteries, batteries.  It would seem that, even at the end of 2022, 
they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain.  I don't know; 
just a thought.

You know what?  In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think of 
printers; boring but necessary (smile).

Mark


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple 
added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging. 
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for most of 
the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent before you wake 
up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are under the most stress 
when fully charged at 100 percent and below about
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these points 
is best for long life.

On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
> discouraged leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>
> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended 
> that one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  
> It was thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>
> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the 
> conclusion is that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in 
> use, will, in no way damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>
> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the 
> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to 
> the life of the battery, in the long run.
>
> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my 
> iPhone battery healthy from the very beginning.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>

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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

Great advice.  I just checked and the optimize battery life is enabled.

I am having fun tweaking the new phone so that it is just right; you know me 
well (smile).  And actually, you're right, it is kind of fun exploring all of 
the new settings that were not available on my beloved 8 Plus.

Mark  

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Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:05 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I don't leave my iPhone 13 Mini on a charger when not in use but I do have it 
connected to a charger when I go to bed at night. I would recommend you go to 
Settings, Battery, Battery health and charging and make sure Optimized battery 
charging is turned on. On that same screen, you can check what your battery's 
maximum capacity is and mine is at 94% after a year and two months of use which 
I'm satisfied with.

Enjoy your new iPhone 14 Pro and all the best getting it customized exactly to 
your liking.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged 
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that one 
not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was thought 
that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is 
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way 
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the contrary?  
If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life of the 
battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone battery 
healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andy,

Yes, I have noticed the difference in the temp of the charging brick.  Hmm!  
Interesting.  Thank you for posting this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

I believe that the old advice you are referring to was in regard to NiCad 
batteries, which for the most part are no longer in use. The Lithium Ion 
batteries used today are much more forgiving, and as far as I know, will not be 
damaged by staying on a charger.
Also, the chargers used today are smarter, in that they contain a chip that 
will stop current when the battery reaches a full charge.
If you touch your Apple charging brick while it is charging, it feels very 
warm, but after the charge is complete it is cold. This is because it is no 
longer passing current to the battery.

Andy

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To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:59 PM
Subject: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?


> Hello All,
>
> Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
> discouraged
> leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.
>
> You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
> one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was
> thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.
>
> I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion 
> is
> that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
> damage or shorten the life of the battery.
>
> Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
> contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the 
> life
> of the battery, in the long run.
>
> Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
> battery healthy from the very beginning.
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Gordon]

It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why 
Apple added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging. 
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for 
most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent 
before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are 
under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below about 
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these 
points is best for long life.


On 12/27/2022 5:59 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was
thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life
of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark



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Re: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[Andy Baracco]

I believe that the old advice you are referring to was in regard to NiCad 
batteries, which for the most part are no longer in use. The Lithium Ion 
batteries used today are much more forgiving, and as far as I know, will not 
be damaged by staying on a charger.
Also, the chargers used today are smarter, in that they contain a chip that 
will stop current when the battery reaches a full charge.
If you touch your Apple charging brick while it is charging, it feels very 
warm, but after the charge is complete it is cold. This is because it is no 
longer passing current to the battery.


Andy

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To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:59 PM
Subject: Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?



Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that 
discouraged

leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was
thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion 
is

that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the 
life

of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time.  It was
thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question:  Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary?  If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life
of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Face ID and Touch ID don’t transfer from one phone to another. When you set up 
your new one, you’ll be prompted to configure Face ID.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 5, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> I would do a phone to phone transfer.  This will pull everything including 
> ring tones.
>  
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>  
> Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
> everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
> previously had it set up
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>> Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the 
>> Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set 
>> up like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and 
>> everything like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that 
>> up as a option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Dennis Long]

I would do a phone to phone transfer.  This will pull everything including ring 
tones.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
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older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





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Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set up 
like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and everything 
like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

 

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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Carolyn]

I had to set up facial ID, Mich, on my iPhone 11, coming from the original SE. 
The reason was that the SE had touch ID, and so facial ID had to be set up on 
my phone. Somehow, the guy at Wal-Mart, where I got the phone could not set it 
up, but I did. Now, people say it is not necessary to do it, but on a bright 
and sunny January afternoon, I went to the west side of my building and set it 
up. 

Now, mine works in dark or light, with or without glasses, but, of course not 
with a mask on. I would say it works at the very least, 80%. 

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older phone can you still use face id?

Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

 

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older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





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like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You will be prompted to enter a passcode and set up Face Id during the setup 
process of a new phone. If you wish you can skip it there and get everything 
done first, then simply go to Settings > Face Id and Passcode and then set up 
the passcode and afterwards set  up Face Id.


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older phone can you still use face id?

Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of joseph 
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Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up

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RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

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Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

 

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older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





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Re: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

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Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up

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question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set
up like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and
everything like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that
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Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Gerardo Corripio]

as soon as you first power on your new toy, (phone), it'll ask you that there's 
a phone from which data can be transferred. Follow the steps, and in no time at 
all, you'll have everything on the new IPhone! You'll be surprised that (at 
least in my case), you'll hardly need to log-in to apps, and your music will be 
on your new phone too! Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 mar 2022, a la(s) 9:23 p.m., Dennis Long  
> escribió:
> 
> Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>>  
>> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
>> phone backed up in iCloud. I’d like this to be on my new phone. What do I do 
>> to get this working?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Dennis Long]

Your best bet will be to do a phone to phone transfer.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

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> Hi.
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> Tomorrow, I’m getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current 
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Getting my iCloud backup onto a new phone

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

Tomorrow, I'm getting an iPhone 13 Max to replace my X. I have my current phone 
backed up in iCloud. I'd like this to be on my new phone. What do I do to get 
this working?

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RE: Got a new phone, SC 2020

[Richard Turner]

I gather you have had iPhones before, is that right?

You might want to check out the applevis.com blogs that come out after each 
release highlighting new features and what VoiceOver bugs are fixed or new, etc.

www.applevis.com/blog

You would have to search for ones related to iOS 15.

Anna Dresner has a new book out on iOS 15, available through National Braille 
Press
www.nbp.org

Search for iOS 15 and you should find it on their site.

Let us know if you are starting completely from scratch with iOS.


Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

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Hello everyone, got me a new iPhone SE 20 this last Sunday. Just wondering what 
might be the best way to learn about working with the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Got a new phone, SC 2020

[The Evil Chocolate Cookie]

If you would rather learn at your own pace, I would look at some documentation, 
especially the iPhone User Guide. If you feel like you might need some help, I 
could teach you.

My web site, http://theevilchocolatecookie.great-site.net

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Got a new phone, SC 2020

[Michael Irons]

Hello everyone, got me a new iPhone SE 20 this last Sunday. Just wondering what 
might be the best way to learn about working with the latest version of iOS 15.

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Re: Charging My New Phone

[Esther Levegnale]

actually, I was mistaken. It is a fuchsia color which is blue. Sorry about the 
error. Thanks. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 19, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> 
> What, do they do a pink iPhone?
>  
> Crazy colours
>  
> Hope you enjoy it Esther/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
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>  
> my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
> using it! Esther
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> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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> 
> On Jan 19, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this is not 
> a tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that brick 
> with the larger phone. 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, Everyone!
> 
> 
> I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick 
> I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
> because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
> 
> 
> Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
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> Thanks so much.
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Slightly lower on iPhone 12, I believe around 15 Watts.
But if you want to make sure you get the best possible speed and also maybe 
have something to support faster speeds which may or may not come in future 
then buy something like a 30 Watt USB-C wall charger which supports Apple's 
fast charging standard along with a good quality USB-C to Lightning cable. Your 
iPhone will then draw whatever maximum amount of power it can handle.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: January 19, 2022 10:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

Is it same for iPhone12?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:55 AM
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The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.
Malcolm Parfitt

On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one with 
65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as the 
iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Charging My New Phone




Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And you can only fast charge if you use a USB-C wall adapter which supports it 
along with a USB-C to Lightning cable, here is some info from the web:

The iPhone 13 will only charge at about 20 watts of maximum throughput, but you 
can safely use higher-wattage USB-C chargers too. You just won't see any 
additional speed. Of course, fast chargers also require a Lightning to USB-C 
cable.
The older USB-A square Lightning cables do not support fast charging speeds.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: January 19, 2022 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one with 
65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as the 
iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..


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Subject: Charging My New Phone




Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

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[Carolyn]

I've heard that too, and more often do charge mine with a wireless charger. 

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Mária Orovcíková
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Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

Hello,
this might sound as a silly question, but just out of curiosity, doesn't the 
fast charging damage the battery?
I've heard different things about the fast charging.
Thanks.
Maria

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Dňa 19. 1. 2022 o 18:55 užívateľ Malcolm Parfitt 
 napísal:




The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 
Watts, that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct 
charging rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:



 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports 
the Apple Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means 
that is the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of 
phones Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you 
have one with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use 
it as the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what 
charging brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm 
thinking that, because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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[Carolyn]

That does help and explains why mine charges faster with a charger than with 
the wireless ones I have. 

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Simon A Fogarty
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Hi Carolyn,

Yeah should be fine,

 Wattage is abit lower than I'd suggest but yes they should work,

 As someone else said the cable with the newer phones is a USB-C to lightening 
cable, But if you have an 11 then you should with that have a charging brick 
with an 18 to 25 volts / watts etc plug,  The phones all still have lightening 
connectors It's jus that the newer charging bricks have USB C in them 

Mind you I still use my older charging bricks cables and wifi chargers 

So the older tech still works with newer devices.

 Hope this helps.
 And good luck with getting a new device.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 9:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

So, if I replace my 11, I can still use my 5W wireless chargers, just they 
would be slow? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple 
Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is 
the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones 
Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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[Carolyn]

The best I understand, it is a, more or less platinum color. 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:49 PM
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Hi Carolyn,

But I still can't figure out what star light is?

I've had sight and starlight is twinkling bright points in a dark blue 
background And that background changes over night, from lighter to darker , 
then back to lighter blue,if the sky is clear, If its cloudy then it's greyish 

So what colour is starlight?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 12:27 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I'm glad she let us know her color. If I get a 13, I want Star Light. 

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Simon A Fogarty
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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What, do they do a pink iPhone?

 

Crazy colours 

 

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

 

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Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther

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On Jan 19, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this 
is not a tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that 
brick with the larger phone. 

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Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


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Fast charging does not hurt the battery of your iPhone.  I've got an
iPhone 8 which was the first iPhone to offer that feature.  I've got a
USBC port on my wall power strip and a very nice lightning to USBC
cable and my iPhone 8 will charge very quickly.  I'd never use a five
watt power brick.  That would be way to slow.

On 1/20/22, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Esther probably to late now but either way,
> You will be fine,
>
> I use a 12volt brick as well as an 18volt brick
>
> It just depends on what gets picked up first when I need to charge.
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Esther probably to late now but either way,
You will be fine,

I use a 12volt brick as well as an 18volt brick

It just depends on what gets picked up first when I need to charge.

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Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
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Re: Charging My New Phone

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello,
this might sound as a silly question, but just out of curiosity, doesn't the 
fast charging damage the battery?
I've heard different things about the fast charging.
Thanks.
Maria

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> Dňa 19. 1. 2022 o 18:55 užívateľ Malcolm Parfitt  
> napísal:
> 
> The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
> that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.
> 
> Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:
> 
> 5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,
> 
> 5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,
> 
> 5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,
> 
> 9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.
> 
> The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
> rate.
> 
> So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
> advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.
> 
> Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
>> If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
>> Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
>> fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
>> uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
>> with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
>> the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Charging My New Phone
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Hi, Everyone!
>>  
>> I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
>> brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking 
>> that, because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
>>  
>> Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
>>  
>> Thanks so much.
>>  
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

Yeah should be fine,

 Wattage is abit lower than I'd suggest but yes they should work,

 As someone else said the cable with the newer phones is a USB-C to lightening 
cable,
But if you have an 11 then you should with that have a charging brick with an 
18 to 25 volts / watts etc plug,
 The phones all still have lightening connectors 
It's jus that the newer charging bricks have USB C in them 

Mind you I still use my older charging bricks cables and wifi chargers 

So the older tech still works with newer devices.

 Hope this helps.
 And good luck with getting a new device.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 9:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging My New Phone

So, if I replace my 11, I can still use my 5W wireless chargers, just they 
would be slow? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple 
Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is 
the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones 
Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

But I still can't figure out what star light is?

I've had sight and starlight is twinkling bright points in a dark blue 
background 
And that background changes over night, from lighter to darker , then back to 
lighter blue,if the sky is clear,
If its cloudy then it's greyish 

So what colour is starlight?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I'm glad she let us know her color. If I get a 13, I want Star Light. 

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Simon A Fogarty
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What, do they do a pink iPhone?

 

Crazy colours 

 

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

 

my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





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<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:

Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this 
is not a tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that 
brick with the larger phone. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Charging My New Phone







Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


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[Carolyn]

I'm glad she let us know her color. If I get a 13, I want Star Light. 

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What, do they do a pink iPhone?

 

Crazy colours 

 

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

 

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Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2022 10:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

 

my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther

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Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this 
is not a tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that 
brick with the larger phone. 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


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What, do they do a pink iPhone?

Crazy colours

Hope you enjoy it Esther/

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my new phone is pink. Thanks for asking. I am looking extremely forward to 
using it! Esther
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Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this is not a 
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the larger phone.

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I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
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> On Jan 19, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this is not 
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> Hi, Everyone!
> 
> 
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> because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
> 
> 
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Re: Charging My New Phone

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, you could use your old charger, but your new phone would come with a 
different cable, a USB C to lightning one.

USB C connectors are smaller and are reversible it does not matter which way 
they’re inserted into a port.

You would have to use your older cables, a USB A to lightning cable.

The charge time would be quite long using a 5 Watt charger coupled with the 
higher battery capacity of the newer phone.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Jan 2022, at 20:35, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> So, if I replace my 11, I can still use my 5W wireless chargers, just they 
> would be slow? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone
> 
> The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
> that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.
> 
> Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:
> 
> 5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,
> 
> 5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,
> 
> 5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,
> 
> 9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.
> 
> The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
> rate.
> 
> So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
> advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.
> 
> Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.
> 
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
>On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
> 
>If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple 
> Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is 
> the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones 
> Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have 
> one with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it 
> as the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..
> 
> 
> 
>     
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Esther Levegnale
>Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Charging My New Phone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Hi, Everyone!
> 
> 
> 
>I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
> brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking 
> that, because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
> 
> 
> 
>Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
>Thanks so much.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Carolyn]

So, if I replace my 11, I can still use my 5W wireless chargers, just they 
would be slow? 

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Malcolm Parfitt
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Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple 
Fast Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is 
the fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones 
Apple uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging 
brick I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Carolyn]

Good you got the phone, Esther. What color did you get? I know, this is not a 
tech question, but I'm just curious. That makes sense to use that brick with 
the larger phone. 

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Hi, Everyone!


I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.


Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.


Thanks so much.


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Re: Charging My New Phone

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, it is.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Jan 2022, at 18:24, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is it same for iPhone12?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone
>  
> The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
> that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.
>  
> Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:
>  
> 5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,
>  
> 5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,
>  
> 5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,
>  
> 9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.
>  
> The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
> rate.
>  
> So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
> advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.
>  
> Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
> If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
> Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
> fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
> uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
> with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
> the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Charging My New Phone
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Hi, Everyone!
>  
> I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick 
> I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
> because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
>  
> Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Fazil M.]

Is it same for iPhone12?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging My New Phone

 

The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

 

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

 

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

 

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

 

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

 

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

 

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

 

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

 

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.

If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one with 
65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as the 
iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Charging My New Phone

 

 

 

 

Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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The iPhone 13 range of phones will at their fastest rate accept 20 Watts, 
that’s 9 Volt at 2.2 Amps.

Generally the charging profiles of iPhones from slowest to fastest are:

5 Volts at 1 Amp, 5 Watts,

5 Volts at 2 Amps 10 Watts,

5 Volts at 2.5 Amps 12.5 Watts,

9 Volts at 2 Amps 18 Watts and 9 Volts at 2.2 Amps 20 Watts.

The device will negotiate with the charger to establish the correct charging 
rate.

So you can use a variety of charging bricks with your phone but to take 
advantage of fast charging you will need one that outputs 20 Watts.

Wireless chargers have their own specifications as do MagSafe chargers.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Jan 2022, at 17:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
> If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
> Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
> fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
> uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one 
> with 65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as 
> the iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Charging My New Phone
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Hi, Everyone!
>  
> I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick 
> I should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, 
> because it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.
>  
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RE: Charging My New Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are no tricks, you plug it in and let it charge.
If you have a USB-C adapter from Apple or one which supports the Apple Fast 
Charging standard and USB-C to Lightning cable then by all means that is the 
fastest way to charge it; I believe for the iPhone 13 series of phones Apple 
uses a 15 Watt adapter or higher; you don't have to worry if you have one with 
65 or 95 Watts capable of charging a Mac laptop you can still use it as the 
iPhone will only draw as much power as it can use..


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Sent: January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
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Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

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RE: Charging My New Phone

[richardr_turner]

If that is a fast charging brick, yes, and if it is at least twice the size of 
the older standard charging brick, it probably is, but it would help to know 
the brand and model of the brick to be sure.

 

 

 

 

 

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Levegnale
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 7:28 AM
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Hi, Everyone!

 

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

 

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

 

Thanks so much.

 

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Re: Charging My New Phone

[Feliciano Godoy]

I would recommend and Anker USB C charging brick. And Anker  makes  great 
products at a low cost

Anker USB C Charger 20W, 511 Charger (Nano Pro), PIQ 3.0 Durable Compact Fast 
Charger, Anker Nano Pro for iPhone 13/13 Mini/13 Pro/13 Pro Max/12, Galaxy, 
Pixel 4/3, iPad/iPad mini (Cable Not Included) 
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On Jan 19, 2022, at 7:28 AM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:





Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

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Charging My New Phone

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Everyone!

I just purchased a new iPhone 13 Pro Max and am wondering what charging brick I 
should use to charge it.  I have a USB-C charger and I'm thinking that, because 
it is a larger phone, I should use that charging brick.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

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RE: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

[Carolyn]

I most definitely agree with that, Christopher. 

I am totally blind and was 82, when I got my phone without a home button, had 
not the first problem at all. I studied what Rita Howels posted on another 
list, just read over and over it, and it penetrated my brain. My husband was 
astonished. I really would not want another phone with a home button now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

For those who don't have any experience with an iPhone that doesn't have a home 
button, and who may be skeptical about getting an iPhone without a home button, 
I'd just like to share my experience from earlier today. I was in the waiting 
room while my wife was having a medical procedure done, and I was constantly 
going back and forth between my person iPhone 11 and my employer's iPhone 7, 
and I realized that all things being equal, I definitely prefer a phone without 
a home button. Note that having a home button wouldn't be a deal breaker with 
me, I just found it so much easier finding things in my dock or up in the 
status bar without having to worry about that space you lose with the home 
button. Plus I think it makes braille screen input a lot easier as well. If 
people have experience with both, and prefer a phone with a home button, then 
that's great, but if you're skeptical about getting a phone without a home 
button then I'd really suggest you give it a go before deciding that you prefer 
a phone with a home button. That's just my $0.02.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range don't 
have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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[chrisjudge1967]

This will only work the first time you use the phone during set up unless you 
have set the accessibility shortcut under accessibility settings.


Chris Judge


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: December 14, 2021 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Press side button three times to turn VoiceOver off and on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Dennis Long]

I was worried about the same thing as you.  I got a 13 pro because of the 
bigger battery.  I get a day plus.  I can do the home gesture.I am very 
happy with my 13 pro.  It was the best purchase I made in a long while.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can of course also go to an Apple Store and spend I think it's probably 
about $49 for an SE 2020 and get them to put in a new battery.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: December 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have the 
S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I was 
told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit the S E

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range 
> don't have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch 
> voiceover off / on,
> 
> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the 
> SE 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to 
> the iPHone 7 And work as you would know your current phone does.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Mike Arrigo]

The only modern iphone that still has the home button is the Iphone SE2. For 
phones with no home button, pressing the power button 3 times in a row will 
turn voiceover on and off, you can also change this in accessibility settings 
but I can't think of why you would want to do that.

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

For those who don't have any experience with an iPhone that doesn't have a home 
button, and who may be skeptical about getting an iPhone without a home button, 
I'd just like to share my experience from earlier today. I was in the waiting 
room while my wife was having a medical procedure done, and I was constantly 
going back and forth between my person iPhone 11 and my employer's iPhone 7, 
and I realized that all things being equal, I definitely prefer a phone without 
a home button. Note that having a home button wouldn't be a deal breaker with 
me, I just found it so much easier finding things in my dock or up in the 
status bar without having to worry about that space you lose with the home 
button. Plus I think it makes braille screen input a lot easier as well. If 
people have experience with both, and prefer a phone with a home button, then 
that's great, but if you're skeptical about getting a phone without a home 
button then I'd really suggest you give it a go before deciding that you prefer 
a phone with a home button. That's just my $0.02.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range don't 
have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Carolyn]

Press side button three times to turn VoiceOver off and on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Lelia.  If you are having battery problems, why not just get a new
battery for your iPhone.  That's what I did with my iPhone 8.

On 12/14/21, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have
> the S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I
> was told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit
> the S E
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
>> The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the
>> power button to switch voiceover off / on,
>>
>> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE
>> 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to
>> the iPHone 7
>> And work as you would know your current phone does.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
>>
>> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I
>> called verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone
>> 12.  Here is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a
>> better battery than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my
>> question.  My first question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or
>> the S E. Second, if I don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on
>> and off? I know I can use seri but is there another way to turn voice over
>> on and offf.
>>
>>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Lelia Struve]

First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have the 
S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I was 
told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit the S E

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
> The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the 
> power button to switch voiceover off / on,
> 
> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 
> 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the 
> iPHone 7 
> And work as you would know your current phone does.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
> Struve
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the power 
button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 
And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Lelia,

 

Below is a list of dimensions for the iPhone SE 2020 which is the same 
physically as the iPhone 7 and 8 as compared to the iPhone 12:

 


Height


iPhone SE 2020: 5.45 inches

iPhone 12: 5.78 inches


Width


iPhone SE 2020: 2.65 inches

iPhone 12: 2.82 inches


Depth


iPhone SE 2020: 0.29 inches

iPhone 12: 0.29 inches


Weight


iPhone SE 2020: 5.22 ounces

iPhone 12: 5.78 ounces


Display diagonal


iPhone SE 2020: 4.7 inch

iPhone 12: 6.1 inch

 

As others have mentioned, when first powering on your new iPhone 12, you can 
press the side power button 3 times to turn Voiceover on. After you’ve set up 
your new device, go to Settings, Accessibility, and swipe to the next to last 
item on the screen which is Accessibility shortcut and double tap it and find 
Voiceover on the screen that opens and double tap it to select it as your 
shortcut. This will ensure that pressing the side power button 3 times will 
toggle Voiceover either on or off for your device.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

 

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

 

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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Wayne Merritt]

If you're concerned about the size, you could get a 12 Mini or 13
Mini. The 12 Mini is likely to be cheaper since it is last year's
model. In my opinion, size and speech voices are subjective, and
everyone has their own preferences of what they like. I think most
people can get used to a larger sized phone. If I put my 2020 SE work
phone on top of my personal iPhone 11, the 11 is only slightly longer
or bigger. Both phones have cases, but if I took them out and compared
their sizes, I think there's a slight difference but not much.
Besides, a "bigger" phone means more icons on the screen and
potentially better battery life.

Good luck,
Wayne Merritt

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> Hello, yes you will be able to do three clicks of the power button, and that
> will turn off and on voiceover. On the newer model phones. Secondly, I know
> how you feel about that esses battery. I have the same issue. However, I
> heard on the newer models, you can assign the back tab to do the home
> gesture and the app switcher. So no loss there if I have to upgrade. And as
> far as the size, I will say, they're a little bit wider as in terms of the
> screen, but they'll still easily fit in the hand or a pocket.
> And I do recommend, if you're really on for sure of the size, take a trip to
> your local Apple store or your local Verizon store and let him know, that
> you would like to see one of these phones.
>> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I
>> called verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone
>> 12.  Here is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a
>> better battery than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my
>> question.  My first question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or
>> the S E. Second, if I don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on
>> and off? I know I can use seri but is there another way to turn voice over
>> on and offf.
>>
>>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[joseph hudson]

Hello, yes you will be able to do three clicks of the power button, and that 
will turn off and on voiceover. On the newer model phones. Secondly, I know how 
you feel about that esses battery. I have the same issue. However, I heard on 
the newer models, you can assign the back tab to do the home gesture and the 
app switcher. So no loss there if I have to upgrade. And as far as the size, I 
will say, they're a little bit wider as in terms of the screen, but they'll 
still easily fit in the hand or a pocket.
And I do recommend, if you're really on for sure of the size, take a trip to 
your local Apple store or your local Verizon store and let him know, that you 
would like to see one of these phones.
> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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Re: Transferring ring tones from old phone to new phone

[Dennis Long]

It is worth noting it will transfer including email accounts etc.


Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 PRO 

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 2:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Dennis and thank you for posting this confirmation.
> 
> Mark
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
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> 
> I thought i would update people on this.  If you do a phone to phone transfer 
> it will pull ring tones you put on the phone even those you created or added 
> manually.
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RE: Transferring ring tones from old phone to new phone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Dennis and thank you for posting this confirmation.

Mark



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring ring tones from old phone to new phone

I thought i would update people on this.  If you do a phone to phone transfer 
it will pull ring tones you put on the phone even those you created or added 
manually.

Dennis Long
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Transferring ring tones from old phone to new phone

[Dennis Long]

I thought i would update people on this.  If you do a phone to phone transfer 
it will pull ring tones you put on the phone even those you created or added 
manually.


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RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just to add to my previous message, since I had accidently downloaded and 
installed the version from last December, 12.10.X I just did a Check for 
Updates in iTunes and was told a newer version was available:

iTunes 12.12.2

I was easily able to upgrade the older version without having to download the 
latest and reinstalling it, but it probably would have amounted to the same 
thing in the end.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 31, 2021 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, I just went to the Apple site for iTunes and all they offer now is the 
Microshaft, oops, Microsoft Store version.

So, when they changed it on the Macs to 3 different applications, apparently, 
they stopped maintaining their own version as some had predicted.

So, get used to wearing out your tab key and/or the f6 key, and probably 
adopting a whole new vocabulary of expletives.






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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
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From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift +

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not correct, I Googled "Download iTunes" and easily found all sorts of versions 
going all the way back to 2015, actually it found 12 downloads including 32 bit 
and 64 bit versions. The site is:

https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes

The version I downloaded is from last December so it seems no updated version 
was released shortly before or after the release of iOS 15, but it seems to 
work fine:

iTunes 12.10.11 for Windows (Windows 64 bit)
iTunes is the easiest way to enjoy your favorite music, movies, TV shows, and 
more on your PC. This update allows you to sync your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch on Windows 7 and Windows 8 PCs.
Dec 7, 2020

I just realized that underneath that download link is another one which just 
says "Download iTunes for Windows" and when I clicked it it takes me to the 
main iTunes page which is:

https://www.apple.com/itunes/<https://www.apple.com/itunes/I>

On this page I get the following (taken from Jaws speech history):

heading level 2‑ iTunes

heading level 3‑ Download the latest version from the Microsoft Store.
The latest entertainment apps now come installed with macOS Catalina. Upgrade 
today to get your favorite music, movies, TV shows, and podcasts.
You can join Apple Music and stream — or download and play offline — over 75 
million songs, ad‑free.

iTunes for Windows
Link‑ Get it from Microsoft

Windows System Requirements
Looking for other versions? macOS Button Windows Button‑

heading level 2‑ iTunes Support can help answer your questions
Get help with syncing, updating to a more recent version of iTunes, or with an 
iTunes Store purchase — and much more.
Link‑ Learn more about iTunes Support

heading level 2‑ Looking for a previous version of iTunes?
Download earlier versions of iTunes to work with compatible operating systems 
and hardware.
visited‑ Link‑ Find previous versions of iTunes 

I guess when I Googled "Download iTunes" it took me to that last link above for 
"previous Versions" which is on the Apple support page and it is the one which 
has all these other versions starting with December 2020.

The trick on the main iTunes page is to realize that if you go past where it 
says to get it from the Microsoft Store and the Windows requirements it says 
the following:

Looking for other versions? macOS Button Windows Button‑

These are buttons and if you activate the "Windows button", you get this:

Heading Level 3 Download the latest version for Windows.
The latest entertainment apps now come installed with macOS Catalina. Upgrade 
today to get your favorite music, movies, TV shows, and podcasts.
You can join Apple Music and stream — or download and play offline — over 75 
million songs, ad‑free.

Download iTunes for Windows now (64-bit) button

Looking for Windows 32-bit? Link Download here

Windows System Requirements biutton

Looking for other versions? macOS button Microsoft Store button

As you can see now that you selected the "Windows button you are offered the 
64-bit download of the desktop app and the "Looking for other versions" 
contains the MacOS and Microsoft Store versions, obviously Apple first directs 
you to the Microsoft Store, but the desktop version is there for both 64-bit 
and 32-bit systems as is a link to many older versions going back years.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 31, 2021 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, I just went to the Apple site for iTunes and all they offer now is the 
Microshaft, oops, Microsoft Store version.

So, when they changed it on the Macs to 3 different applications, apparently, 
they stopped maintaining their own version as some had predicted.

So, get used to wearing out your tab key and/or the f6 key, and probably 
adopting a whole new vocabulary of expletives.






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@l

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I uninstalled the Microsoft Store app this morning and downloaded the desktop 
version from Apple's website and it works 100 times better for me, I can use F6 
but Tab also works and actually tab reads things like Next, Play, Previous and 
so on and I can press Control + F to go to the search box and then find the my 
iPhone button easily by pressing enter. All you have to do is Google "Download 
iTunes" and the first link should take you there.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I spend 
probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I could 
do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@goo

Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[goshawk on horseback]

all I can say, is that you must be very lucky, as I have had nothing but 
headaches with poxy iTunes.


Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


Itunes really isn't that hard.  It isn't the easiest program I've ever
used, but I can use it.  I've transferred mp3 zipped stuff to voice
dream reader using iTunes with no problems.

On 10/31/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
Well, I just went to the Apple site for iTunes and all they offer now is 
the

Microshaft, oops, Microsoft Store version.

So, when they changed it on the Macs to 3 different applications,
apparently, they stopped maintaining their own version as some had
predicted.

So, get used to wearing out your tab key and/or the f6 key, and probably
adopting a whole new vocabulary of expletives.






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.”

– Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works 
better

than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to 
their

shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but 
is

useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not
be good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler
because it's really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few
ringtones made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning 
from

the Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what
happens; I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the
area where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from
there because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember 
not
finding that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course 
I

will now have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and
install the desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and
even renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's
almost all using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. 
One

example which used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to
the device area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes 
you
to the search field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get 
to
the iPhone button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried 
the
touch cursor and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to 
activate
it. From there pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where 
I
arrowed down until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 
4

times to get to the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow
keys to see what was there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the
ringtones, copied them to the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all
at once, and then I went back to iTunes where I was still in the Tones 
list

and pressing Control + V did work to paste them and at that point they
immediately started syncing to my phone which I had of course connected
earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if 
you
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are 
asked
to enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to 
be

your passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like 
to

start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift +
F10 on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me

Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[goshawk on horseback]

same here! it is the one thing I seriously hate with the iPhone. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Kay Malmquist 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


  So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
  Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher 
   
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).

I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not 
be good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because 
it's really not all that difficult in iTunes.

OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

 

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

 

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and 
even renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost 
all using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example 
which used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.

Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if 
you trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are 
asked to enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to 
be your passcode.

Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

 

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I 
spend probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I 
could do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

 

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called WALTR 
Pro that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the computer, but 
you don’t have to deal with iTunes.

 

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone 

Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Itunes really isn't that hard.  It isn't the easiest program I've ever
used, but I can use it.  I've transferred mp3 zipped stuff to voice
dream reader using iTunes with no problems.

On 10/31/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, I just went to the Apple site for iTunes and all they offer now is the
> Microshaft, oops, Microsoft Store version.
>
> So, when they changed it on the Macs to 3 different applications,
> apparently, they stopped maintaining their own version as some had
> predicted.
>
> So, get used to wearing out your tab key and/or the f6 key, and probably
> adopting a whole new vocabulary of expletives.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone
>
> So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better
> than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with
> iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
>
> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell
> anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their
> shining - just shine.
> Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
> Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone
>
> So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is
> useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either
> (Waltr2).
> I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not
> be good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler
> because it's really not all that difficult in iTunes.
> OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had
> iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few
> ringtones made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from
> the Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what
> happens; I'll be back shortly.
>
> OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes
> downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the
> area where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from
> there because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not
> finding that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I
> will now have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and
> install the desktop application.
>
> Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and
> even renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's
> almost all using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One
> example which used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to
> the device area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you
> to the search field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to
> the iPhone button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the
> touch cursor and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate
> it. From there pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I
> arrowed down until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4
> times to get to the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow
> keys to see what was there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the
> ringtones, copied them to the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all
> at once, and then I went back to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list
> and pressing Control + V did work to paste them and at that point they
> immediately started syncing to my phone which I had of course connected
> earlier.
> Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you
> trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked
> to enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be
> your passcode.
> Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to
> start all my custom ring tones with the word "Cus

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Richard Turner]

Well, I just went to the Apple site for iTunes and all they offer now is the 
Microshaft, oops, Microsoft Store version.

So, when they changed it on the Macs to 3 different applications, apparently, 
they stopped maintaining their own version as some had predicted.

So, get used to wearing out your tab key and/or the f6 key, and probably 
adopting a whole new vocabulary of expletives.






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I spend 
probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I could 
do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Kay Malmquist]

So, are you saying that there is an apple desk top version that works better 
than the Microsoft store version?  I have had nothing but awful luck with 
iTunes and would love to find a more intuitive version.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
shining - just shine.
Dwight L. Moody – 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 1:20 AM
  Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


  So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but 
is useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).

  I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not 
be good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler 
because it's really not all that difficult in iTunes.

  OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few 
ringtones made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from 
the Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what 
happens; I'll be back shortly.



  OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the 
area where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from 
there because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not 
finding that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I 
will now have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and 
install the desktop application.



  Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and 
even renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's 
almost all using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One 
example which used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to 
the device area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you 
to the search field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to 
the iPhone button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the 
touch cursor and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate 
it. From there pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I 
arrowed down until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 
times to get to the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow 
keys to see what was there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the 
ringtones, copied them to the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all 
at once, and then I went back to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list 
and pressing Control + V did work to paste them and at that point they 
immediately started syncing to my phone which I had of course connected 
earlier.

  Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if 
you trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are 
asked to enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has 
to be your passcode.

  Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like 
to start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift 
+ F10 on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to 
the title field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter 
saved it, a few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which 
indicates an operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones 
and they are now on my phone.



  This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I 
spend probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, 
I could do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than 
this.


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone



  Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called 
WALTR Pro that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the 
computer, but you don’t have to deal with iTunes.



  The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else 
asked for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the 
basics of transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for 
transferring zipped audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I 
have used it for ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the 
steps.



  I created a Demos page off my main page.

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard,
I think you now know not to mess with the Windows dumb app.

IN any case, if I were just doing Ringtones, I would use iTunes.

WALTR Pro is worth the price for transferring zip files into Voice Dream Reader.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I spend 
probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I could 
do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called WALTR Pro 
that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the computer, but you 
don’t have to deal with iTunes.

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else asked 
for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the basics of 
transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for transferring zipped 
audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I have used it for 
ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the steps.

I created a Demos page off my main page.
If you are interested it is:
http://www.turner42.com

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

So you are going from using a free program which can be a bit tricky but is 
useable (iTunes) to a paid program which is not easily dealt with, either 
(Waltr2).
I'm not saying for some tasks like what Richard is describing it might not be 
good, but for ringtones I can't see it being all that much simpler because it's 
really not all that difficult in iTunes.
OK, granted, I haven't done this in a while and actually haven't even had 
iTunes on my computer for a bit, but since Richard has sent me a few ringtones 
made from the Loon recordings I installed iTunes this morning from the 
Microsoft Store and I'm now going to plug in my iPhone and see what happens; 
I'll be back shortly.

OK, I must say that while I haven't tried the desktop version of iTunes 
downloaded from Apple, the Microsoft Store version is a huge pain in the area 
where digested food exits the body. I actually just got iTunes from there 
because I was curious whether anything had changed, but I remember not finding 
that version as easy to use as the desktop version which of course I will now 
have to test so maybe tomorrow I'll uninstall the iTunes app and install the 
desktop application.

Anyways, I did manage to get Richard's tones copied over to my iPhone and even 
renamed them, but I find the tab key is very useless now and it's almost all 
using F6 and actually I had to use the touch cursor at times. One example which 
used to be easy was to get to the "iPhone" button to get to the device 
area/sidebar. I used to simply press Control + F which takes you to the search 
field in iTunes and then I had to tab once or twice to get to the iPhone 
button. Now that doesn't seem to work and eventually I tried the touch cursor 
and I found the iPhone button that way and was able to activate it. From there 
pressing F6 a few times got me to the device treeview where I arrowed down 
until I found tones, here I was able to press tab or F6 3 or 4 times to get to 
the Tones treeview where I was still able to use the arrow keys to see what was 
there/. I now went to the folder where I saved the ringtones, copied them to 
the clipboard, it was 5 tones which I copied all at once, and then I went back 
to iTunes where I was still in the Tones list and pressing Control + V did work 
to paste them and at that point they immediately started syncing to my phone 
which I had of course connected earlier.
Keep in mind that once you connect an iPhone a prompt comes up asking if you 
trust this computer and you have to tap "Trust" and after that you are asked to 
enter your passcode, Face Id or Touch I d won't cut it here, it has to be your 
passcode.
Anyways, after the tones had copied I found them in the list, but I like to 
start all my custom ring tones with the word "Custom" so I pressed Shift + F10 
on one of the tones, I realized pressing F6 4 or 5 times took me to the title 
field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter saved it, a 
few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which indicates an 
operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they are now 
on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I spend 
probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get where, I could 
do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than this.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called WALTR Pro 
that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the computer, but you 
don’t have to deal with iTunes.

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else asked 
for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the basics of 
transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for transferring zipped 
audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I have used it for 
ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the steps.

I created a Demos page off my main page.
If you are interested it is:
http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone 
without using iTunes.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attentio

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

It seems to have worked for the ones I’ve made myself as well.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2021 11:03 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

I think that option is only for ringtones you purchased not those you made 
yourself, downloaded or received from other people.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: October 30, 2021 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Mine have for the passed couple of devices,

I guess I’ll find out again when I finally get my 13pro max,

I think from memory that they are under sounds,
Then ring tones and there is an option to download all tones

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2021 10:49 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

One thing I am not sure of right now if ringtones transfer if you set up your 
new phone from an old one with the quick/direct transfer feature.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 30, 2021 2:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

As far as I know ringtones still can only be transferred to a new phone using 
iTunes or third party programs like Waltr2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  I 
see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE
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RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Richard Turner]

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called WALTR Pro 
that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the computer, but you 
don’t have to deal with iTunes.

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else asked 
for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the basics of 
transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for transferring zipped 
audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I have used it for 
ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the steps.

I created a Demos page off my main page.
If you are interested it is:
http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone 
without using iTunes.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to begin 
with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to the new.
You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without using 
the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through iTunes any more.
Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but if you 
cannot find them, let me know.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
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if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just transfer 
across, like everything else.

Simon


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Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  I 
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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Kay Malmquist]

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone 
without using iTunes.

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  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


  If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to 
begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to 
the new.
  You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without 
using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through iTunes 
any more.
  Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but 
if you cannot find them, let me know.





  Richard
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it." -- Jane Wagner









  website:  www.turner42.com


  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:



    if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just 
transfer across, like everything else.

Simon


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  From: Dennis Long
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM
  Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone


  Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so 
how?  I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is 
appreciated.




  Dennis Long
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RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I thought so, but it's been a while since I transferred from my 8 to my 11 and 
I couldn't remember.

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on horseback
Sent: October 30, 2021 6:21 AM
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Importance: High

they certainly did for me, including the home made ones. this was very 
recently, when I upgraded from the X to the 13pro.
they all transferred over with no problems.

Simon


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

One thing I am not sure of right now if ringtones transfer if you set up your 
new phone from an old one with the quick/direct transfer feature.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 30, 2021 2:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

As far as I know ringtones still can only be transferred to a new phone using 
iTunes or third party programs like Waltr2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  I 
see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone SE
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RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard and thank you for re-posting this information.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Here is mark Taylor's instructions on copying Ringtones with iOS 12.7 and later.

In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer necessary to actually use the file 
menu to import ringtones.  In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  
(smile).  So, to add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy 
the file to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and 
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones 
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set to 
display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your keyboard 
until you land in the list view of currently installed custom ringtones.  Then, 
simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the ringtone to your device.

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will 
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently 
selected ringtone, such as playing it.

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you wish 
to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the Application 
button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to remove 
the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the Delete key on 
the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse and/or touch pad.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there anyway I can transferr ringtones to my iPhone 8, by using my computer? 
 Some of the tones I want to put on my iPhone, just won't copy over when I use 
ITunes..  They are not exceeding the required length, and they are in .m4r 
format which should work.  Thanks for any help.

On 10/30/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> No t
>
>
>
> Phone to phone, not that I know of.
> Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility?  I know the Apple Garage Band app 
> can produce ringtones and put them where they go on your device, but I 
> don’t know of a way to get them from one phone to another.
> I don’t use Garage Band but I have read about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1822d9e2427d46c45c6d08d99bb270b4%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637712012966723390%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
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> 4rjQQSnSk%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone
>
> Is there any way to do it from phone to phone?
>
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new 
> one to begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the 
> old phone to the new.
> You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone 
> without using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync 
> through iTunes any more.
> Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, 
> but if you cannot find them, let me know.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1822d9e2427d46c45c6d08d99bb270b4%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637712012966723390%7CUnkno
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> eCy8%3D&reserved=0<https:

RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Richard Turner]

Here is mark Taylor's instructions on copying Ringtones with iOS 12.7 and later.

In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer necessary to actually use the file 
menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone to 
your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and 
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set to 
display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your keyboard 
until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the ringtone 
to your device.

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will 
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
selected ringtone, such as playing it.

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you wish 
to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to remove 
the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse 
and/or touch pad.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there anyway I can transferr ringtones to my iPhone 8, by using my computer? 
 Some of the tones I want to put on my iPhone, just won't copy over when I use 
ITunes..  They are not exceeding the required length, and they are in .m4r 
format which should work.  Thanks for any help.

On 10/30/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> No t
>
>
>
> Phone to phone, not that I know of.
> Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility?  I know the Apple Garage Band app 
> can produce ringtones and put them where they go on your device, but I 
> don’t know of a way to get them from one phone to another.
> I don’t use Garage Band but I have read about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1822d9e2427d46c45c6d08d99bb270b4%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637712012966723390%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9mWH59VYW6Ix8lve%2Fg%2BuvVyRTuIJvVbjjk
> 4rjQQSnSk%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone
>
> Is there any way to do it from phone to phone?
>
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new 
> one to begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the 
> old phone to the new.
> You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone 
> without using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync 
> through iTunes any more.
> Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, 
> but if you cannot find them, let me know.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1822d9e2427d46c45c6d08d99bb270b4%7
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> eCy8%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?
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