Re: Scanner in OSX10.2.6

[RONDA BROWN]

Hi to Ken, Mark, Tom, Severin, John & Rosemary,
My grateful thanks to all who sent their recommendations & suggestions.
Unfortunately VueScan does not work with my UMAX Astra 2000U Scanner.
I'm giving my UMAX Scanner to a good home  an elderly lady,... 
(even older than me), wants to archive some old photos of her family. I 
have promised to help her.


I have decided to purchase the Canon LIDE50 from Daniel Kerr.
I find Daniel always comes up 'trumps'. I have been purchasing 
hardware, software & advice from

Daniel for many years  (it's amazing he still looks so young)!

Once again, thanks WAMUGers.
Kind Regards,
Ronni

Re: pictures of g5

[Stephen Atherton]

BTW,

I'm here at WWDC and just saw it. G-r-e-a-t.


On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 06:15 PM, ***Kazu*** wrote:


Hi All

This is not Japanese but Chinese.

Cheers

Kazu

--- Eugene de Gouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't know whether this picture has been discussed
but here is a
link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can
anyone read
Japanese?


http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
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Yes, the Power Mac G5 is now official

[Phillip McGree]

Yup, last week's stuff was all true.

And, as discussed previously on the list, resellers will be the last to know 
the full details. ie the Apple Store will have full details and pricing any 
minute now, whereas resellers won't get anything official from Apple Australia 
until mid morning some time.

Looks like pricing has gone up though the base model G4 was $US1499 (ie 
$A3099), but is now $US1999, so that would put it in the $A3500-3800 range.


Regards,
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(who needs to pay for the motorbike(s) that he bought tonight, before buying 
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WWDC news

[Shay Telfer]

[From Macnn.com, in reverse chronological order, so start at the end 
and work back up :) ]


Apple and IBM announce 3GHz G5 within next 12 months.

Phil Schiller shows bakeoff, showing that G5 is 2.1x faster. It takes 
15 minutes to transition code to G5 (just recompiling). The G5 wins 
in 3D rendering, Mathematica 5 (both matrix and integer 
calculations--over twice as fast). Mathematica: "The competition 
isn't PCs anymore. It's high-end Unix workstations, and the G5 is 
faster than them too." Schiller demos Emagic audio software where 
1000 simultaneous voices can be played with 24-bit (high) quality 
stereo. Then shows 100 EQs, 8 bands each (with stereo) == 1600 bands. 
The G5 handles it with only 25% usage. Summary: Photoshop is 2.1x 
faster, Luxology is 2.3x faster, Mathematica is 2.3x faster, and 
Emagic (no calculation ;)


Jobs then touted the G5 Power Mac's performance against Dell. The 
dual 3.0GHz Xeon (533MHz Bus, 512MB RAM) from Dell costs $4000 and 
isn't as fast. It has the same stuff but slower. All three Power Mac 
G5 machines are due in August. SPEC int test show that 2GHz G5, the 
3GHz P4 (fastest available), and 3.0Ghz Xeon. Using the GCC 3.3 
compiler, VeriTest independent test lab showed that the G5 is 10$ 
slower on integer, but 21% faster on FPU. The dual G5 smoked the P4 
and dual Xeon. It is 41% faster on FPU than the dual-Xeon and 3% 
faster on integer (via SPEC tests). Both single and dual processor 
tests were shown. Adobe said that Photoshop will be updated when 
these machines are released.


Now Product. Up to 8 GB of memory. Eveything is on independent buses 
so there's no bandwidth clogging. The memory is 40x faster. You can 
transfer an entire DVD in one second if everything was in RAM. It 
features a Nvidia GeForce 5200 FX Pro chip in the low-end and an ATI 
Radeon 9600 Pro in the high-end. It offers up to 500GB of storage and 
a 4x SuperDrive. It has a new case with a more advanced, slightly 
more boxy enclosure. It is light grey, all-aluminum enclosure, which 
is very thin. The rear has a mesh backing. It has handles ("straight 
up" not diagonal). It is quieter than previous generation machines. 
The front is totally mesh for air circulation (as is the back). There 
are 4 separate thermal zones (power supply, processor bay, I/O cards, 
and rotating storage. It has nine different fans, which are 
independently speed controlled. It is 35dBA at normal use (twice as 
quiet as the current G4 Macs). Modelsstart at 1.6MHz ($2000, GF 
FX5200, 256MB of RAM), 1.8GHz (double memory, double disk, $2399) and 
dual 2.0GHz ($2999, Radeon 9600 Pro).


Next: System. It offers 8GBps of bandwidth using DDR memory. The G5 
processor are connected to the system controller by independent 
busses. There is no competition for bandwidth because it has 12x. It 
features a 400Mhz 128-bit DDR Memory (RAM) with 6.5 GBps of 
bandwidth. Grahis is AGP 8x Pro Graphics with 2GBps of bandwidth 
(power for Pro Cards) and HyperTransport for the drives, 133MHz 
PCI-X, FireWire 800/400, USB 2.0, Gigabit Ethernet, Optical Digital 
Audio (new).


Apple shows off the worlds fastest PC with three things: chip (G5), 
system, product. The G5 has some amazing properties: it's a 64-bit 
processor, runs up to 2GHz, and has a 1GHz front-side bus. It offers 
full SMP ("designed entirely for SMP"). The G5 has a the industry's 
highest bandwidth using an entirely new architecture. It is massively 
parallel with a 12 unit core with 2 FPUs and is capable of 16 
in-flihgt operations.It uses the world's most advanced chip 
fabrication by IBM: 130nm process, SOI 8 layer interconnects, 58 
million transistors, 300 mm (12-inch wafters. IBM VP says it "costs 
$3 billion to fab this thing" because they "shrunk the gate length to 
6 atomic units."


Jobs then talks about xcode, Apple's new developer tools, which 
supports distributed building, GCC 3.3 compiler, and much faster 
performance. It offers zerolink, predictive compile (compile as you 
write for about half the time), and "fix and continue."


Apple's iSight is the "eyes and ears" of iChat AV. It offers full 
motion video at 30 fps at 640x480 at 24-bit color. It offers 
auto-focus with a F/2.8 aperture, a built-in microphone, single 
FireWire connection for video/audio as well as power. iSight has a 
better lens, better sensor, and very high quality imaging. Jobs then 
compares it ot the iPod. The iSight has a very convenient mounting 
system, with different mounts for each computer model, including 3 
stands for top of screen mounting. It is shaped like a small grey 
cylinder with a lens shutter and integrated tilt/rotate functions. 
Apple gives away an iSight to everyone at the conference.


Jobs reviews all the new features and says that Panther will ship 
"before the end of the year" for $129. The developer preview is 
available today. Jobs then shows video of a panther in a jungle and a 
Longhorn (eating grass), saying : that's what the competition is 
doing."


J

[OT] Posting (Was: Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail)

[Onno Benschop]

It has been brought to my attention that my response to Angus' email
using the words: "Alternatively everybody hates you :-)" could be read
as a personal attack on Angus, even-though it came within the following
context:

On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 14:54, Onno Benschop wrote:
> The fact that no-one responded indicates to me that the problem has
> likely nothing to do with Entourage, and much more likely something in
> your personal setup. Alternatively everybody hates you :-)

If you did indeed read this as a personal attack and not tongue firmly
planted in cheek - as it was intended - hence the ":-)" - I'm sorry.

While I now reread my message I concede that it was not the most
balanced posting I've ever contributed to the group.

Can we now please move on?

Onno Benschop 

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Re: pictures of g5

[Moorey]

Hi,
Here's a rough translastion:

The AppleStore accidentally revealed this Powermac G5 features?

According to MacRumours.com and other websites (aMac?), PowerMac G5 features
have been accidentally revealed:

[Features listing]

After receiving the news earlier at FrostyPlace, this image was captured
just in time before it was removed (please look at the red area):

[Picture 1]

Other than this, some other people from other websites also provided this
picture:

[Picture 2]

This new machine provided a lot of new innovative features, the most notable
feature PowerPC G5, 1Ghz with maximum memory of 8GB DDR RAM, Fast Serial
ATA, USB 2.0 version, some (digital?) sound/plug; according to past
information, this is an all new designed machine.

Regards,
Moorey

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> Hi All
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> This is not Japanese but Chinese.
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> Cheers
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> Kazu
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> > anyone read
> > Japanese?
> >
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> > http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Shay Telfer]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 20:33, Matthew Healey wrote:
> On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Paul Mulroney wrote:

> What I'd be interested in knowing is - how'd you create that list?

I am guessing a quick perl script run over a Eudora mailbox...


No need for perl:

grep "X-Mailer" mbox | sort | uniq -c | sort -n -r


No need for that, I have BBEdit (oh, ok, I did use uniq :)

Have fun,
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Re: pictures of g5

[***Kazu***]

Hi All

This is not Japanese but Chinese.

Cheers

Kazu

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> I don't know whether this picture has been discussed
> but here is a 
> link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can
> anyone read 
> Japanese?
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Re: Safari Debugger

[Shay Telfer]

He explained to me a while ago that the only reason that BankWest 
has even checked its site on Macs is because David is a Mac fan and 
checks things at home on his G3. The web site stats apparently only 
show a very minor percentage of Mac users.


[snip]

I've had a BankWest account since 1984, but over the last year or 
two have tended towards a Westpac account that I have, the primary 
reason being how bloody good the Westpac banking site is.


Phil


Perhaps the reason they don't see a higher proportion of Mac users is 
because every time someone complains about the various banking sites 
on the WAMUG list people mention that they don't have any problems 
with Westpac (well, except with the current Safari beta :)


It's easy enough to see it from the WAMUG list archives, it's a 
process that's been going on for years...


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Re: pictures of g5

[Brad Helden]

By the look of things it is indeed a G5.

Just one point, Eugene, it's Chinese not Japanese so can't translate 
it for you. Sorry.


Cheers,

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ADSL Modems

[Katinka Mills]

Hi All,

I am looking to borrow an ADSL modem for upto a week, mine has started
playing up after a recent lightning strike :o( it randomly drops connection
every day now, before the strike I had over 35 days :o) Telstra have been
out and suggested changing the modem, (I am a year out of warranty). I want
to do this before ripping the Unix server apart and having down time
(running a home network is worse than corporate, if the computers are down,
everyone else stops in this house ;o)

So if anyone has a spare I could borrow, please drop me an email.

Thanks,

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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Onno Benschop]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 20:33, Matthew Healey wrote:
> On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Paul Mulroney wrote:
> > What I'd be interested in knowing is - how'd you create that list?
> 
> I am guessing a quick perl script run over a Eudora mailbox...

No need for perl:

grep "X-Mailer" mbox | sort | uniq -c | sort -n -r

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Re: Zytech

[Reg Whitely]

Even Keith Palmer would be pleased I think..

Reg

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:25 pm, Bob wrote:


Hi All,

As I started this thread it is appropriate that I now lay it to rest.

I have previously been the victim of credit card fraud over the
internet and the lack of replies to my e-mails to Zytech caused this
old guy to worry. My original posting to WAMUG was to seek
information as I had ordered things from Zytech before and was always
completely satisfied with how the orders were processed.

In response to my posting I received a number of direct replies from
members who reassured me concerning the integrity of the business and
expressed the high personal regard they held for Keith Lambert.

Keith has since contacted me and explained how various factors arose
which resulted in my situation. The sincerity of his explanation
demonstrated to me that his reputation among WAMUG members is well
founded. May I conclude by saying that I have no doubts as to his
integrity and will have no hesitation in entering into future
dealings with his business.

Bob

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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Matthew Healey]

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Paul Mulroney wrote:



1 AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13





Well some people are in to that sort of stuff!


Made me smile :)

What I'd be interested in knowing is - how'd you create that list?


I am guessing a quick perl script run over a Eudora mailbox...

- Matt

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Re: video conferencing

[Matthew Healey]

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 07:08 PM, Dave Choy wrote:


Anyway, the good news is there *are * alternatives which work on both
PC and Mac whic you can get your family to use. Here are some
alternatives:


Just an FYI... There is also a very chatty black cat out there that 
likes to fly visual style.


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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Paul Mulroney]

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 07:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe someone would like to create a yahoo group poll on the mail apps
to see which one is the most widely used...


Well, a brief analysis of my WAMUG mail reveals the following
information from X-Mailer headers. Note that this is 'number of
posts' not 'number of people using'.





1 AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13




Made me smile :)

What I'd be interested in knowing is - how'd you create that list?

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Zytech

[Bob]

Hi All,

As I started this thread it is appropriate that I now lay it to rest.

I have previously been the victim of credit card fraud over the 
internet and the lack of replies to my e-mails to Zytech caused this 
old guy to worry. My original posting to WAMUG was to seek 
information as I had ordered things from Zytech before and was always 
completely satisfied with how the orders were processed.


In response to my posting I received a number of direct replies from 
members who reassured me concerning the integrity of the business and 
expressed the high personal regard they held for Keith Lambert.


Keith has since contacted me and explained how various factors arose 
which resulted in my situation. The sincerity of his explanation 
demonstrated to me that his reputation among WAMUG members is well 
founded. May I conclude by saying that I have no doubts as to his 
integrity and will have no hesitation in entering into future 
dealings with his business.


Bob

Re: Scanner in OSX10.2.6

[John Winters]

Ronni,

Have a look at VueScan before you shell out the readies for a new scanner. I
assume here that apart from not having an OSX native driver, the old scanner
is working fine. This shareware program breathed life back into my otherwise
unsupported UMAX scanner under OSX, and appears to seamlessly handle a
phenomenal number of scanners. It scans to JPEG or TIFF files, and you can
set it to automatically open the newly scanned image in Photoshop Elements
for final touch ups. You can download it from

http://www.hamrick.com/

And if it helps, pay the shareware fee to unlock it (and get rid of the DEMO
watermark).

HTH
John

on 22/6/03 4:54 PM, RONDA BROWN at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Hello WAMUGers,
> 
> I have decided I'm sick of Scanning in 'Classic' !
> I need a Scanner that will work 'Native' in OSX 10.2.6.
> I don't have Photoshop 7.0.
> I do have Photoshop Elements 2.0.
> Please give me your recommendations on Canon or Epson Scanners.
> I like the look of the Canon LiDE30 & LiDE50.
> I like the idea of not having a power cord, only the USB cable.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni

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Re:video conferencing

[Dave Choy]

Hi HGriffiths,

I'm afraid MicroShaft™ deliberately cripple mac versions of software 
such as this to make Windoze PCs look better. It wouldn't be hard for 
them to fix, but they couldn't care less. Another case in point is 
Windows Media Player, which they *heavily* push to the music and media 
companies as a secure way to distribute content, yet they are too lazy 
assed to get Windows Media up to scratch on anything other than recent 
versions of Windoze. (eg try looking at NHL video clips on a mac - not 
possible 'cos the player won't play them) Hence I try really hard not 
to use anything microsoft and support their endless quest to crush the 
compettition.

Anyway, the good news is there *are * alternatives which work on both 
PC and Mac whic you can get your family to use. Here are some 
alternatives:

(1) Download ispQ 
() which you 
can pay for once you check it works. Then your family can simply 
download icq for PC and use that instead of MSN messenger.

(2) Yahoo messenger has video conferencing for mac and PC. Download the 
mac version and get your family to use it instead. 


(3) Squidcam also has a version for both mac and PC (you didn't say 
whether you are using OS X - this program works for OS X only on the 
Mac or windows) . Some 
mac users swear by this program.

(4) iVisit is available on both PC and Mac. 


(5) OhPhoneX  
is a mac OS X program that lets you video chat with pcs with netMeeting 
installed (a free microsoft program that your family should have 
already)

(6) There are other alternatives, such as CUSeeMe but they're not free 
and your PC family would also need to buy it.

I hope this was of some help. If any of the links don't work, go to 
 and you can do a search for them - they're all 
available from there.

Regards,

David Choy



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> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 05:35:54 -
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>
> Hi, I am wondering whether anyone has any experience with connecting
> to XP/2000 computers via the internet, using say msn messenger, from
> an Imac.
>
> I have an Imac ( built in microphone, and Sony DV camera), and my
> family ( unenlightened though they are) are running wintel stuff.
> Thier version of msn messenger allows them to "dial" each other and
> use thier microphones/cameras to have a "real" conversation, seeing
> and talking to the other parties. I cannot join in. Can I offer them
> something else, or is there another program that will connect to msn
> messenger ( Jabber?? )
>
> Help!!
>
>
>
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Re: Scanner in OSX10.2.6

[Sojourn]

I have a CanonN124ou and it scans in 10.2.6 I downloaded some drivers etc
but it works wonderfully. No powercord, just usb cable.

The drivers for scanners are now available on the Australian canon site

http://www.canon.com.au/products/scanners/scanners_low_medium_volume/canosca
nn1240u_drivers.html

***Note: CanoScan Toolbox v4.1.1.0X must be installed prior to installing
ScanGear CS v7.0.1.0X**

ScanGear Toolbox for Canon CanoScan v4.1.1.0X
For Macintosh OS X 10.1.3 or later.

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On 22/6/03 16:54, "RONDA BROWN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hello WAMUGers,
> 
> I have decided I'm sick of Scanning in 'Classic' !
> I need a Scanner that will work 'Native' in OSX 10.2.6.
> I don't have Photoshop 7.0.
> I do have Photoshop Elements 2.0.
> Please give me your recommendations on Canon or Epson Scanners.
> I like the look of the Canon LiDE30 & LiDE50.
> I like the idea of not having a power cord, only the USB cable.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Safari Debugger

[Keith Palmer, Zytech]

The issue of bank sites is a common one and not just a problem for 
Safari but also other browsers such as Camino and OmniWeb.


It has had a great deal of discussion in this forum and I think it 
would be really nice if we could obtain some (even unofficial) feedback 
from within Apple that the matter is being addressed with the Safari 
development team.


I've personally submitted feedback at the Safari site, as have many 
others, but haven't heard anything back of any kind other than that 
posted by list members.


Has anyone heard any more?

Is anyone from Apple prepared to volunteer to chase some feedback for 
us?


After all, if Safari works on the Aust bank sites we can all relegate 
that "other" browser to the trash.


On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Greg Pennefather wrote:

I'm with you on this one guys as I use BankWest and would like Safari 
to
work with it too. However, I think it's a bit rich of us to get 
annoyed
with them when Safari is still a beta product. I have sent Apple 
feedback

that Safari doesn't work with BW as it is likely a Safari problem.

Let's wait for the final release of Safari before we get cranky with 
BW - in

the meantime, keep Apple informed.
Cheers
Greg

on 23/6/03 12:41 AM, Phillip McGree at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


let who know? Bankwest? Do you know how long it took for them to fix
their site last time they stuffed it up and made it
windoze-and-MIE-only (or something - I seem to recall they said
"Macintoshes don't handle Java correctly" or the like) ?
Sorry Phil, hose me down, I just don't have a lot of faith in 
Bankwest
to check up on why Safari is not working... I think the response 
would

be raucous laughter.


He explained to me a while ago that the only reason that BankWest has 
even
checked its site on Macs is because David is a Mac fan and checks 
things at

home on his G3. The web site stats apparently only show a very minor
percentage of Mac users.

I've had a BankWest account since 1984, but over the last year or two 
have
tended towards a Westpac account that I have, the primary reason 
being how

bloody good the Westpac banking site is.
Phil


Keith Palmer
Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd
PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231
Phone: 08 9791 5556 Fax: 08 9791 5900
the online data storage & technology store -
http://www.zytech.com.au/

Re: internet based communication

[Geoffrey Richards]

http://www.haxialsoftware.com/products/netfone/


> Hi, I am wondering whether anyone has any experience with connecting
> to XP/2000 computers via the internet, using say msn messenger, from
> an Imac.
> 
> I have an Imac ( built in microphone, and Sony DV camera), and my
> family ( unenlightened though they are) are running wintel stuff.
> Thier version of msn messenger allows them to "dial" each other and
> use thier microphones/cameras to have a "real" conversation, seeing
> and talking to the other parties. I cannot join in. Can I offer them
> something else, or is there another program that will connect to msn
> messenger ( Jabber?? )
> 
> Help!!
> 
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Re: Stolen Product

[Reg Whitely]

Hey Karl

What about installing mini-disposable video cameras in your packaging, 
linked to a central database!


Thanks for your support. I hope we get them back.

Regards

Reg

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 03:36 pm, Karl Videmanis wrote:


Whilst on the lookout for Reg's stolen iBook, you may also want to keep
an eye out for the following

iBook 14.1"/900/256/40G/Combo
serial number UV3200YEPBN

stolen from Carousel Shopping Centre on Saturday evening. It was stolen
with box and all. This is an Apple loan stock machine. It has been
reported to the police, and we have the offender on video.

Thanks

Karl

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Business Development Engineer

Apple Computer Australia
Level 4, 16 St Georges Terrace
Perth WA 6000
Ph: +61 8 9223 4100
Fx: +61 8 9221 4898

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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Shay Telfer]

Maybe someone would like to create a yahoo group poll on the mail apps
to see which one is the most widely used...

Regards,
Paul.


Well, a brief analysis of my WAMUG mail reveals the following 
information from X-Mailer headers. Note that this is 'number of 
posts' not 'number of people using'.


Sadly, Eudora doesn't include the X-Mailer header (aside from the odd 
few cases), so you can't tell much about its frequency of use.


It's left as an exercise to the reader to break this down by platform 
and product :)


Have fun,
Shay

742 Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410)
355 Apple Mail (2.551)
342 Yahoo Groups Message Poster
308 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2
274 Apple Mail (2.552)
271 Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
258 eGroups Message Poster
251 Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998
233 Apple Mail (2.482)
224 Apple Mail (2.481)
171 Mozilla 4.79 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
168 Mozilla 4.74 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
167 Apple Mail (2.546)
142 Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
141 Musashi 3.2.3-us
136 Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
134 Apple Mail (2.548)
131 Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
118 Apple Mail (2.543)
117 Apple Mail (2.480)
110 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
107 Apple Mail (2.388)
97 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58
97 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
95 Apple Mail (2.472)
95 Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
88 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16)
87 Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
81 CTM PowerMail 2.4v6 
81 Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
80 iiNet WebMail v2
79 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3
73 AspMail 2.62 (SMTP85107B)
68 Claris Emailer 1.1
65 Apple Mail (2.475)
63 Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
57 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0)
53 Mozilla 4.75C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC)
51 Ximian Evolution 1.0.5
50 Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295)
47 Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
45 Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC)
40 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32)
40 Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
40 Mozilla 4.78 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
39 Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
36 Ximian Evolution 1.0.3
36 Mozilla 4.77 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
35 Ximian Evolution 1.2.4
34 Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32)
34 Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
34 Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997
33 Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
33 www.eGroups.com Message Poster
32 ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)]
32 Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1
31 Apple Mail (2.387)
31 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55)
30 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
30 Musashi 3.2.2-us
27 GoMail 3.0.0
27 Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211
26 Excite Inbox
26 MBM v2.6.3-US
26 Ximian Evolution 1.0.8
26 Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
26 Musashi 3.1.1
24 Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295)
24 CTM PowerMail 2.4v7 
24 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59)
22 Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
22 MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117)
21 Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)
21 Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.02 (298)
20 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
19 Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
19 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
17 Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
17 Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
16 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
16 Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9)
15 Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024
15 Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997
14 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211
14 Evolution/1.0.2
14 GoldMine [5.50.10424]
13 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
13 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
13 InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08
13 Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; U; PPC)
12 Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
11 Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
11 Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
10 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700
10 Eudora Pro F4.0.2
10 Mozilla 3.03 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
10 Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I)
10 AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28
10 Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC)
10 Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0
9 CTM PowerMail 2.4v3 
9 Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I)
9 Mr.Mail 0.5
9 Netscape Webmail
9 Novell GroupWise 5.5.2
8 QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58
8 Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
8 MBM v2.1.1-US
8 MailCity Service
8 Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC)
8 Mailsmith 1.5.4 (Blindsider)
8 Novell GroupWise 5.5
7 Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
7 SMTPit - FileMaker Pro Email Plugin (mac ver. 3.0.11)
7 Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
7 Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
7 Mozilla 4.08 (Macintosh; I; 68K)
7 CTM PowerMail 4.1.3 Carbon 
6 QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac)
6 Excite Mail
6 Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I)
6 CTM PowerMail 3.0.1 
6 Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (Win98; U)
6 Mozilla 4.75

Angus> email

[Philip Trouchet]

Hi Angus,
Also use Safari Mail. Happy with it & find "Bounce" button does 
reduce repeat "Spam". "Junk" copes with other > C > p.

Re: pictures of g5

[Steven Tan]

Interesting. I have seen the pic posted someone before, but it looks more like 
a 3D model somehow.

Also, the web site is in Chinese, not Japanese. (Japanese language has some 
chinese characters in them, because it actually derives from Chinese long time 
ago).

Basically the site is talking about the new specs of G5 leaked by Apple store 
(source from MacRumours.com). It also states the specs for G5 and the pic of 
the G5 are from different sources. So it means the G5 pic is most probably a 
fake. 

Anyway, we will know in a few hours time whether there will be a G5. Patience, 
people, patience!

Steven Tan


On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 03:10PM, Eugene de Gouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I don't know whether this picture has been discussed but here is a 
>link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can anyone read 
>Japanese?
>
>
>http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
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Re: Safari Debugger

[Greg Pennefather]

I'm with you on this one guys as I use BankWest and would like Safari to
work with it too. However, I think it's a bit rich of us to get annoyed
with them when Safari is still a beta product. I have sent Apple feedback
that Safari doesn't work with BW as it is likely a Safari problem.

Let's wait for the final release of Safari before we get cranky with BW - in
the meantime, keep Apple informed.

Cheers

Greg


on 23/6/03 12:41 AM, Phillip McGree at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> let who know? Bankwest? Do you know how long it took for them to fix
>> their site last time they stuffed it up and made it
>> windoze-and-MIE-only (or something - I seem to recall they said
>> "Macintoshes don't handle Java correctly" or the like) ? This happened
>> about 4 years ago and I recall it was something like 6 months with no
>> response to Netscape (any version) which made me download MIE for the
>> first time, only to find yet another glitch while they "upgraded" which
>> even made that app fail as well!
>> 
>> Sorry Phil, hose me down, I just don't have a lot of faith in Bankwest
>> to check up on why Safari is not working... I think the response would
>> be raucous laughter.
> 
> The bloke that I know personally at BankWest has the position of "Senior
> Manager Online Solutions".
> 
> He explained to me a while ago that the only reason that BankWest has even
> checked its site on Macs is because David is a Mac fan and checks things at
> home on his G3. The web site stats apparently only show a very minor
> percentage of Mac users.
> 
> Send a few comments via the feedback page... generate demand for Mac
> compatibilty...if it's not fixed in a few weeks then let me know and I'll see
> if I can find an excuse to put David onto OS X, and hence Safari. :-)
> 
> I've had a BankWest account since 1984, but over the last year or two have
> tended towards a Westpac account that I have, the primary reason being how
> bloody good the Westpac banking site is.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> .

Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Greg Pennefather]

One thing I have noticed with Entourage is that it will suggest email
addresses when you are composing. The list from your address book can be
augmented with recently used addresses that may not be in your address book.
These latter addresses are identified by the @ sign next to them as opposed
to the address book addresses that have a little person icon. It seems to
me that recently received emails are classified for use in this list so if
you receive an email from someone recently and they are not in your address
book they may show up if you start typing a similar address when composing.

You can turn this feature on and off in the Mail and New Prefs under the
compose tab.

Hope this makes sense - I've got a cold and the head is a bit muddled today.

Cheers

Greg


on 22/6/03 8:17 PM, Ryan Jay Schotte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> When I first saw Angus's email I tested this option using my Curtin email
> account, which isn't in my address book. It wasn't added, so I concluded
> that it doesn't cause unknown addresses to be added, just creates a Link
> between the message and a Contact.
> 
> It still sounds a lot like the action of a rogue Mail Rule... Can't imagine
> what else could cause it in Entourage.
> 
> -Ry
> 
> On 2003-06-22 19:31, "John Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Angus,
>> 
>> In the general preferences of Entourage, there is an option to
>> "Automatically link contacts with the messages I receive from them"
>> I am no office guru, and the documentation is vague, but this implies to me
>> that the incoming email addresses will be automatically added so that the
>> link can be created (as distinct from manual addition using command =).
>> Perhaps you might (un)check this setting. Let us all know if that helps.
>> 
>> HTH
>> John
>> 
>> on 21/6/03 2:27 PM, Angus Russell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Neil
>>> 
>>> Somehow or other every e-mail I receive has it's senders address added to
>>> the Entourage address book.
>>> 
>>> Due to this I have nearly 1500 e-addresses in the address book - which is
>>> insane.
>>> 
>>> However since you have provided the only response to my dilemma I can only
>>> assume that no-one else takes me seriously :-(
>>> 
>>> Thanks anyway :-)
>>> 
>>> Angus
> 
> Later,
> 
> Ry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

G5 pic here it is

[tom samson]

--

tom samson

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Angus Russell]

Hi Ryan, Hi John, Hi Neil

Many thanks for your input - it was enough incentive to go back in and check
all my mail rules for about the fourth time - and yup it was a rogue mail
rule.

Can not understand how it got in there - still racking my brains on that one
- just thankful I eventually found it :-)

Many thanks.

Angus

> When I first saw Angus's email I tested this option using my Curtin email
> account, which isn't in my address book. It wasn't added, so I concluded
> that it doesn't cause unknown addresses to be added, just creates a Link
> between the message and a Contact.
> 
> It still sounds a lot like the action of a rogue Mail Rule... Can't imagine
> what else could cause it in Entourage.
> 
> -Ry
> 
> On 2003-06-22 19:31, "John Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Angus,
>> 
>> In the general preferences of Entourage, there is an option to
>> "Automatically link contacts with the messages I receive from them"
>> I am no office guru, and the documentation is vague, but this implies to me
>> that the incoming email addresses will be automatically added so that the
>> link can be created (as distinct from manual addition using command =).
>> Perhaps you might (un)check this setting. Let us all know if that helps.
>> 
>> HTH
>> John
>> 
>> on 21/6/03 2:27 PM, Angus Russell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Neil
>>> 
>>> Somehow or other every e-mail I receive has it's senders address added to
>>> the Entourage address book.
>>> 
>>> Due to this I have nearly 1500 e-addresses in the address book - which is
>>> insane.
>>> 
>>> However since you have provided the only response to my dilemma I can only
>>> assume that no-one else takes me seriously :-(
>>> 
>>> Thanks anyway :-)
>>> 
>>> Angus
> 
> Later,
> 
> Ry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Paul Mulroney]

Hi All,

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 03:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However it does throw up an interesting question as far as I am 
concerned -

what do all you Mac users on the list use for e-mail?

Other then Eudora or Entourage/Outlook I didn¹t think there was much
available other than some of the others I asked about. Other sources 
seem to
think PowerMail , Mailsmith & Gyaz mail are all pretty good, when 
compared

to Mail or other mainstream clients.


I used to use Outlook Express (OS9) for ages, but found some strange 
networking problems when I moved to OSX. I currently use Mail, but I'm 
not that impressed with it. It doesn't handle IMAP folders as well as 
OE did. I tried Entourage, but it is much slower on my graphite iBook 
than the Mail app.


Maybe someone would like to create a yahoo group poll on the mail apps 
to see which one is the most widely used...


Regards,
Paul.
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Logical Developments

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 86 Coolgardie Street
www.logicaldevelopments.com.au BENTLEY WA 6102
Ph: +61 8 9458 3889 ICQ# 154484472 Fax: +61 8 9458 7204

Fwd: [maced] Disk Warrior 3 (a Q - Quick review)

[Keith Palmer, Zytech]

I've received a couple of questions regarding DW3 and dual processor 
machines. The problem and solution are detailed below, courtesy of the 
maced list.


Begin forwarded message:


One quick word of warning about DW 3, any Dual Processor MD G4 will not
reboot correctly (this is an issue with the OS X System on the CD 
which was
provided by Apple). The work around is to restart holding down the 
mouse

button until the CD ejects.

Michael Jed



Dear All,

As my copy did arrive on Friday I thought I'd give it a bash.

PRO's

a) It will boot your Mac in 10.2.3.

b) It has a MacOS X version (3.0) and the MacOS Classic version on 
the

same disc.

c) It has a dead easy interface.

After running (it took about 1 hour on one computer - about 5 minutes
on another - so don't give up on it too early will you!) it found 173
errors more than the standard "Disk First Aid". After running the boot
up time seemed improved but maybe I was imagining this! At least it
seems to work without "doing something horrid".

CONS -

Missing - seems not to have MacOS X version of a Hard Drive Optimiser.
Maybe (ha!) MacOS X doesn't fragment!



Regards
Q


Keith Palmer
Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd
PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231
Phone: 08 9791 5556 Fax: 08 9791 5900
the online data storage & technology store -
http://www.zytech.com.au/

Stolen Product

[Karl Videmanis]

Whilst on the lookout for Reg's stolen iBook, you may also want to keep 
an eye out for the following


iBook 14.1"/900/256/40G/Combo
serial number UV3200YEPBN

stolen from Carousel Shopping Centre on Saturday evening. It was stolen 
with box and all. This is an Apple loan stock machine. It has been 
reported to the police, and we have the offender on video.


Thanks

Karl

_
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Business Development Engineer

Apple Computer Australia
Level 4, 16 St Georges Terrace
Perth WA 6000
Ph: +61 8 9223 4100
Fx: +61 8 9221 4898

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_

Re: pictures of g5

[Phillip McGree]

Well for starters, there's no sign of the drop down side door that we all know 
and love so well.

And that image is definitely a 3D rendered image, not an actual photograph.


Phil

>>http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
>>--
>
>
>While I can't read Japanese I can say that I'm about 99% certain I've 
>seen this design kicking around before but then again there are 
>so may CG generated "Fantasy Mac's" that I'm sure that if it differs 
>from the current form factor by -/+ 3 screws someone will pull up a 
>design and say "did designer XYZ have inside knowledge of the new 
>mac design?"
>
>-- 

-- 

--
Sent from the Apple PowerBook G4 of:
Phillip McGree Web: http://www.phil.net.au
Perth, Western Australiahttp://chat.iinet.net.au
Mobile Phone: 0418 922 500  
Macs for sale - new and secondhand  http://mac.iinet.net.au


Disclaimer: 
This transmission is intended for people that have functioning eyesight and 
literacy. If you have no eyesight, or can't read, please disregard this email. 
Thank you.

Re: pictures of g5

[Ryan Jay Schotte]

On 2003-06-23 15:10, "Eugene de Gouw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know whether this picture has been discussed but here is a
> link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can anyone read
> Japanese?
> 
> 
> http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809

If you like computer translations, Babelfish
 does an amusing job with Japanese pages.

Try this link:


Anyone here speak more Japanese than just sushi? :)

Somehow I doubt the G5s will look anything like what they have in that
article -- there doesn't appear to be anywhere near enough flexibility with
drive bays for Pro users. It might have made a good replacement for the Cube
however.

MacOSRumors.com's opinion seems to have little doubt that the Apple Store
leak was authentic -- though if so, I wonder which poor Apple Store employee
lost their job for stealing Jobs' spotlight...

-Ry

Re: Zytech

[Keith Palmer, Zytech]

Thankyou to the number of WAMUG members who phoned me and subsequent 
postings.


So that everyone is aware I had to have a weekend off as my son has had 
his TAFE course cancelled in Bunbury and we had to make an appointment 
at Swan TAFE in Perth on Friday. Unfortunately there was no solution 
offered by TAFE on Friday and we had to stay over to sort this out this 
morning (Monday). I'm back in Bunbury at 3pm today (and Matt has to 
shift to Perth to finish his course).


I am now going through the several hundred emails and responding to all 
individually. Although we don't advertise it we normally do work 7 
days and nights  this is the first weekend this year I've had off 
so I'm sorry if this caused problems for anyone. I've only seen one 
email sent prior to this posting and that was on Friday. As I said we 
normally try to respond to emails within minutes but this email was 
answered today. I did have my mobile with me during this time and our 
office number was diverted to my mobile which, if is in use, diverts to 
a memo service and a number of WAMUG members did speak with me over the 
weekend  thankyou again for your kind comments.


If you are interested in DiskWarrior there are no copies available in 
Australia at the present moment with a new shipment due into Sydney 
within the next 48 hours. As soon as they arrive we will process 
orders and charge cards and send these out.


For those of you who received copies from the first shipment  
DiskWarrior 3 is well worth the wait  I've yet to find a machine 
that has not had at least one line of DiskWarrior red ink.


On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Bob wrote:


Hi All,

I have been having a lot of difficulty in ordering DiskWarrior 3.0
from Zytech. My first e-mail enquiry was, so I was told, misplaced
for over a week and subsequent e-mails to Keith Palmer have not been
answered. This contrasts greatly with previous orders of other items
which have been processed very efficiently. Is anybody aware of
current problems with this business?
Bob


Keith Palmer
Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd
PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231
Phone: 08 9791 5556 Fax: 08 9791 5900
the online data storage & technology store -
http://www.zytech.com.au/

Re: Recent post

[Reg Whitely]

I use Apple Mail, although for years I used Eudora. Mail's Ok for what 
I want. It is a little bit buggy sometimes though.


Reg

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:17 pm, Angus Russell wrote:


Hi Onno. Bob, Shay

First of all apologies to you and anyone else whom I unwittingly 
offended
with my post last Saturday. No excuses, only reasons - it was supposed 
to be
a flip, stress-relieving aside in a personal e-mail (hence the ":-)" 
at the

end), not one intended for the list.

I had tried other avenues to solve the problem myself including other
forums, searches on relevant sites, and looking/working through 
Entourage

myself to find the solution.

I wasn't expecting anyone to investigate it for me just wondering if 
anyone
had a similar experience and knew what had caused it, having looked 
down the

avenues known to me and found nothing that answered my query.

The fact that I sent in the query three times was a result of having 
failed
to solve it elsewhere was an indication of how much it was getting to 
me.

Getting 30-40 spam a day all with their e-addresses being added to my
address book was all getting a bit much. (Spam Sieve is a great filter 
but

you still end up with all the spam on your machine)

However it does throw up an interesting question as far as I am 
concerned -

what do all you Mac users on the list use for e-mail?

Other then Eudora or Entourage/Outlook I didn’t think there was much
available other than some of the others I asked about. Other sources 
seem to
think PowerMail , Mailsmith & Gyaz mail are all pretty good, when 
compared

to Mail or other mainstream clients.

Anyway the issue has been solved now - since other people also 
recommended
the possibility of a mail rule I went back through them all again - 
having

missed it the previous times, this time it was found.

Best regards

Angus Russell


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Re: pictures of g5

[Mark Secker]

I don't know whether this picture has been discussed but here is a
link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can anyone read
Japanese?

http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
--



While I can't read Japanese I can say that I'm about 99% certain I've 
seen this design kicking around before but then again there are 
so may CG generated "Fantasy Mac's" that I'm sure that if it differs 
from the current form factor by -/+ 3 screws someone will pull up a 
design and say "did designer XYZ have inside knowledge of the new 
mac design?"


--
~
Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph#9380 1855 (ECEL)
ECEL Computer Support Officer, University of Western Australia.
CRICOS Provider No. 00126G
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Ferdinand Magellan.

The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only 
people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

Hunter S. Thompson

Missing iBook Package

[Reg Whitely]

Dear Colleagues

Courier Australia has mislaid one of a consignment of 6
computers to my school, Chapman Valley Primary School, freighted on 
weekend 7/8 June from Mt Hawthorn. It is an Apple iBook 12.1" TFT 
800Mhz 128 MB 40GB HDD with additional 512 MB RAM installed.

Its serial number is indicated to be UV 3162EBMRR.

The package was clearly marked:
Deliver to:
Chapman Valley Primary School
Chapman Valley Road
NABAWA, WA, 6532
Australia

It may have the original Delivery Note attached.

It has been reported stolen to the police and listed with Apple as such.

Please be on the lookout for it.

Regards

Reg

Reg Whitely
Principal, Chapman Valley Primary School
Apple Educator of Excellence 2002-2003
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pictures of g5

[Eugene de Gouw]

I don't know whether this picture has been discussed but here is a 
link to the possible G5. It looks interesting. Can anyone read 
Japanese?



http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=1809
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[ADMIN] Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Matthew Healey]

On Saturday, Jun 21, 2003, at 14:54 Australia/Perth, Onno Benschop
wrote:


The fact that no-one responded indicates to me that the problem has
likely nothing to do with Entourage, and much more likely something in
your personal setup. Alternatively everybody hates you :-)


On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 11:34 AM, James Green wrote:


Maybe you should not reply to emails when you are "upset" and "grumpy"
which unfortunately appears to be the case most of the time. All the
smily faces in the world don't change the fact that most of your
replies, whether they are helpful or not, come off sounding sarcastic
and arrogant. I don't deny that you are very knowledgeable, but
methinks you are also a **, and perhaps every so often you should
remove your head from your ***, and actually think about what you are
typing when replying.



1. This language is not appropriate for this list.
2. Personal attacks have NO PLACE on this list.
3. If you must to continue, take it off the list.
4. Disregard this warning and be permanently banned.

Enough said.

- Matt

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Re: Recent post

[Onno Benschop]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 13:17, Angus Russell wrote:
> Hi Onno. Bob, Shay
> 
> First of all apologies to you

Thank you, that is appreciated.

Onno Benschop 

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Recent post

[Angus Russell]

Hi Onno. Bob, Shay

First of all apologies to you and anyone else whom I unwittingly offended
with my post last Saturday. No excuses, only reasons - it was supposed to be
a flip, stress-relieving aside in a personal e-mail (hence the ":-)" at the
end), not one intended for the list.

I had tried other avenues to solve the problem myself including other
forums, searches on relevant sites, and looking/working through Entourage
myself to find the solution.

I wasn't expecting anyone to investigate it for me just wondering if anyone
had a similar experience and knew what had caused it, having looked down the
avenues known to me and found nothing that answered my query.

The fact that I sent in the query three times was a result of having failed
to solve it elsewhere was an indication of how much it was getting to me.
Getting 30-40 spam a day all with their e-addresses being added to my
address book was all getting a bit much. (Spam Sieve is a great filter but
you still end up with all the spam on your machine)

However it does throw up an interesting question as far as I am concerned -
what do all you Mac users on the list use for e-mail?

Other then Eudora or Entourage/Outlook I didn¹t think there was much
available other than some of the others I asked about. Other sources seem to
think PowerMail , Mailsmith & Gyaz mail are all pretty good, when compared
to Mail or other mainstream clients.

Anyway the issue has been solved now - since other people also recommended
the possibility of a mail rule I went back through them all again - having
missed it the previous times, this time it was found.

Best regards

Angus Russell

internet based communication

[hgriff_hotmail_com]

Hi, I am wondering whether anyone has any experience with connecting 
to XP/2000 computers via the internet, using say msn messenger, from 
an Imac.

I have an Imac ( built in microphone, and Sony DV camera), and my 
family ( unenlightened though they are) are running wintel stuff. 
Thier version of msn messenger allows them to "dial" each other and 
use thier microphones/cameras to have a "real" conversation, seeing 
and talking to the other parties. I cannot join in. Can I offer them 
something else, or is there another program that will connect to msn 
messenger ( Jabber?? )

Help!!

Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Onno Benschop]

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 11:34, James Green wrote:
> On Saturday, Jun 21, 2003, at 14:54 Australia/Perth, Onno Benschop 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 14:27, Angus Russell wrote:
> >> I can only assume that no-one else takes me seriously :-(

> > That is absolute rubbish and I take offence.

> methinks you are also a wanker, and perhaps every so often you should 
> remove your head from your ass

Thank you for your constructive feedback.

Onno Benschop 

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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[Kelly Duffy]

You must have turned something on to do this. I looked through Entourage
preferences and couldn't find any setting for it. Do you use any third party
software like spam filters or something? You can search the FAQ and archives
at www.microsoft.com/mac under the Entourage section and see if they have
anything mentioning it there and if there is nothing there will be a support
link at the bottom of the page so you can email Microsoft directly and ask
them. You paid for the software so get them to help you sort the problem
out, that's what the support team are for.

Best of luck,
Kelly Duffy 

On 21/6/03 3:49 PM, "Bob Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WAIT UP ANGUS !
> 
> I am one amongst prosbably many who have never used Entourage and
> as a consequence have no idea what your problem can be caused by.
> 
> I use Netscape Messenger and until recently version 4.79 and it had no
> such automatic function to add email addresses that I have come across.
> However version 7.0.2 which I have just started trialling
> does have that as an alternative selectable in the mail preferences
> somewhere.
> 
> I suggest yours should have a choice in preferences SOMEWHERE.
> You just have to find it.
> 
> Have fun
> 
> Bob
> 
> Angus Russell wrote:
>> Hi Neil
>> 
>> Somehow or other every e-mail I receive has it's senders address added to
>> the Entourage address book.
>> 
>> Due to this I have nearly 1500 e-addresses in the address book - which is
>> insane.
>> 
>> However since you have provided the only response to my dilemma I can only
>> assume that no-one else takes me seriously :-(
>> 
>> Thanks anyway :-)
>> 
>> Angus
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20/6/03 8:55 PM, Angus Russell wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 As an afterthought I seem to recall that it is possible to choose whether
 or
 not Entourage adds all new e-addresses to the address book, but damned if I
 can find this option anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Angus
>>> 
>>> As far as I can establish it isn't possible to automatically add new
>>> addresses to the address book in Entourage. You can of course manually
>>> create a new address by using the new contact menu command, or by pointing
>>> at the 'from' header in any received message and doing a 'control + click'
>>> (which brings up an 'add to address book' option).
>>> 
>>> What Entourage will allow you to do - which serves the same purpose that you
>>> want - is to show you a list of recently used addresses (from messages in
>>> your inbox and outbox) when you are addressing a new message. To turn this
>>> feature on you need to go to Mail and News Preferences > Compose> Recently
>>> Used Addresses and check the box if you want to turn this feature on.
>>> 
>>> What this means is that if I wanted to send a message to you all I need to
>>> do is type 'a' or 'an' in the 'To' field and I immediately get a drop down
>>> list of everyone I have sent or received a message from who's name starts
>>> with 'a' or 'an', from which I can choose your name.
>>> 
>>> Neil Blake & Associates
>>> Environmental and Community Consultants
>>> RMB 1050
>>> South Coast Highway
>>> Denmark
>>> Western Australia 6333
>>> 
>>> Phone/Fax/Answering Machine: (08) 9840 9284
>>> Mobile 0428 761 466
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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ambimouserous?

[marc]

My only experience with 2 "mouses" is when apllied with Remote Desktop
application
whereby the client's and administrator's mouses can work simultaneous
Marc Reygaert


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Re: The Mouses

[Kelly Duffy]

Yes, you can, however I don't know how well they both work at once. They can
both be used though at once though. Are you going to have mouse wars?

Kind regards,
Kelly Duffy

On 22/6/03 5:08 PM, "Bill Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is the MAC ambimouserous?
> 
> 
> Just curious if you can stick two mouses on at once.
> 
> 
> Bill

mouses

[marc]

My only experience with 2 "mouses" is when applied with Remote Desktop
Application
whereby the client's and administrator's mouses can work simultaneous via a
network
connection. It's not very smooth though
Marc Reygaert


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Re: Alternatives to entourage and mail

[James Green]

On Saturday, Jun 21, 2003, at 14:54 Australia/Perth, Onno Benschop 
wrote:



On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 14:27, Angus Russell wrote:
However since you have provided the only response to my dilemma I can 
only

assume that no-one else takes me seriously :-(


That is absolute rubbish and I take offence.

You have now on three different occasions asked us about automatically
adding addresses to Entourage.

The fact that no-one responded indicates to me that the problem has
likely nothing to do with Entourage, and much more likely something in
your personal setup. Alternatively everybody hates you :-)

In-fact, a suggestion was made in the message you just responded to.

So, perhaps you should learn to read before you start abusing people.

In-fact, you've not even suggested what you've done to investigate the
problem yourself, nor have you provided any evidence of using a simple
google search.

If you feel that my response is too strong, then I unreservedly
apologise. I feel that too many viewers are *expecting* to be helped,
even though that expectation is entirely unreasonable. You may be 
helped
or you may not be helped. The result is entirely random and by the 
grace

of other readers.

Perhaps you've not gotten to this paragraph because now you're upset,
but that's just tough.

If you were to look in the rules section of Entourage you might find a
filter that is adding entries to the Address book. I know this is
possible, because a simple google search has as the first result a
discussion about using Entourage to manage a mailing list.




So, go away and do your home-work, or if you already did, then show us,
so we don't all duplicate your efforts to that point.

I'm upset, grumpy and it's not because I didn't have any coffee.

Onno Benschop

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Dear Onno,

Maybe you should not reply to emails when you are "upset" and "grumpy" 
which unfortunately appears to be the case most of the time. All the 
smily faces in the world don't change the fact that most of your 
replies, whether they are helpful or not, come off sounding sarcastic 
and arrogant. I don't deny that you are very knowledgeable, but 
methinks you are also a wanker, and perhaps every so often you should 
remove your head from your ass, and actually think about what you are 
typing when replying.


Regards
James Green

Re: Scanner in OSX10.2.6

[Severin Crisp]

An alternative is to buy VueScan from http://www.hamrick.com
It works native in OSX and handles almost any scanner ever made. I 
am using it with my old UMAX ASTRA 1220S and I reckon it is better 
than the originally supplied software. From memory it costs around 
$50.

Best wishes
Severin


Hello WAMUGers,

I have decided I'm sick of Scanning in 'Classic' !
I need a Scanner that will work 'Native' in OSX 10.2.6.
I don't have Photoshop 7.0.
I do have Photoshop Elements 2.0.
Please give me your recommendations on Canon or Epson Scanners.
I like the look of the Canon LiDE30 & LiDE50.
I like the idea of not having a power cord, only the USB cable.

Thanks for any advice.
Kind Regards,
Ronni





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[Daniel Kerr]

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But perhaps you're after something different not in this list,...well 
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I have taken out the description of the item to cut down the email, 
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Re: Safari Debugger

[Larry Pohl]

On 22/6/03 11:41 PM, "David de la Hunty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Safari crashes when I try to log onto Bankwest.
> 
> Following a suggestion from a WAMUG member I have installed and run
> Safari Debugger... but how do you get de bugger to work?
> 
> ... or is it just easier to use Mozilla?
> 
> David

I believe the problem with Bankwest (whatever it was) has been fixed in more
recent versions of Safari. Or so I'm told.

Larry

Re: Safari Debugger

[Bob Howells]

Re BANKWEST :

They have always responded to my technical queries and i have never
been without access via one browser or the other.
Yes Netscape was a problem at one time... but they responded to say
they would fix and they did at their next update.

I also complained when they had all those ads at the front end
of the login which made a slow access. That has been fixed also !

My experience suggests that they DO LISTEN and will respond !

Bob



Phillip McGree wrote:
let who know? Bankwest? Do you know how long it took for them to fix 
their site last time they stuffed it up and made it 
windoze-and-MIE-only (or something - I seem to recall they said 
"Macintoshes don't handle Java correctly" or the like) ? This happened 
about 4 years ago and I recall it was something like 6 months with no 
response to Netscape (any version) which made me download MIE for the 
first time, only to find yet another glitch while they "upgraded" which 
even made that app fail as well!


Sorry Phil, hose me down, I just don't have a lot of faith in Bankwest 
to check up on why Safari is not working... I think the response would 
be raucous laughter.



The bloke that I know personally at BankWest has the position of "Senior Manager 
Online Solutions".

He explained to me a while ago that the only reason that BankWest has even 
checked its site on Macs is because David is a Mac fan and checks things at 
home on his G3. The web site stats apparently only show a very minor percentage 
of Mac users.

Send a few comments via the feedback page... generate demand for Mac 
compatibilty...if it's not fixed in a few weeks then let me know and I'll see 
if I can find an excuse to put David onto OS X, and hence Safari. :-)

I've had a BankWest account since 1984, but over the last year or two have 
tended towards a Westpac account that I have, the primary reason being how 
bloody good the Westpac banking site is.

Phil


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