Re: keynote - music stops sometimes then re-starts
Thank you Ronni - Re: Problem 2 I will try this so I can have several favourite tracks with my longer Slide-shows. It makes sense! Peta Re: Problem 1 - Does anyone know why the music stops and starts (I have completely deleted all music and replaced with a fresh track at least 20 times - so it is not the particular piece of music). I have never had this problem in Powerpoint. On 29/09/2008, at 12:52 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 11:36 AM, peta belczowski wrote: Hi I have taught myself Powerpoint on my notebook but have now bought an Applemac. I usually make slide shows from my (many) scanned and digital photos on various topics. I am now trying to work with Keynote to do similar projects as with Powerpoint, and have taught myself a reasonable amount. However, I have two problems. Problem 1 I can successfully add music from my itune library to my slideshow. However, when I play my slideshow this music sometimes stops for no reason, then restarts - several times during the slideshow. Sometimes jiggling the mouse seems to help. At times the whole show just stops until the music is ready to start up again. Problem 2 Instead of looping the music to recommence when it has played all the way through, sometimes on a long slide show I would like to add a second (or third) song after the whole of the first song has played. This does not seem to be possible, as working with Inspector just replaces the first song which I had inserted. Hello Peta, The only way to play more than one music track completely and in succession is to create a soundfile or playlist of the music tracks off-line (for example in Garage Band or iTunes) and then import this soundfile as the Soundtrack for the slideshow. You can do this in the Inspector Document Audio Soundtrack menu. This will play as the slideshow progresses and changes slides. The Soundtrack will begin playing together with the first slide of your slideshow and continue until the end of the audio. To get all of the Builds and Transitions in your slides to synchronise with the audio track, you will need to Record the track, which also can be done from this same window. Also, remember that if you do have a Soundtrack, you need to remove any individual audio tracks you may have imported into any slides. Otherwise, they will play simultaneously when the slide comes up. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
KDDI is launching a 1Gps fibre internet connection for about $50/month. http://www.japantoday.com/category/technology/view/kddi-to-launch-1gbps-fiber-optic-service-in-oct Just goes to show how much of a rip-off Australian broadband is. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permissions
Done both but neither works. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 29/09/2008, at 9:19 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Stuart Breden wrote: Hi there I have a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 at work and at home running OS 10.5.5 I am having problems with permissions. Can;t find anything on the WAMUG web site. What happens when I boot fro the OS 10 install disk is that I can't Verify or Repair Disk Permissions and not Repair Disk. I get the message 'The desk 'macintosh HD could not be unmounted' Suggestions? From the Disk utility in Utilities in your Applications folder No you cannot Repair Disk but YESyou can repair permissions try that Bob Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permissions
Yes booted from install disk all right! Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 29/09/2008, at 9:46 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Bob Stuart Bob, surely if he is booting from the OS 10 install disk he SHOULD be able to repair both disc and permissions - you just can't repair the actual disc you are booted from? Stuart, are you sure you have actually booted from the install disc - I have had problems in the past where just holding down the C key at start-up DIDN't start from the disk (don't know why) but in that case holding down the option key at startup DID give me the choice between HD and install disc - so I was then able to boot from the installation disc. HTH Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 29/9/08 9:19 AM, Robert Howells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Stuart Breden wrote: Hi there I have a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 at work and at home running OS 10.5.5 I am having problems with permissions. Can;t find anything on the WAMUG web site. What happens when I boot fro the OS 10 install disk is that I can't Verify or Repair Disk Permissions and not Repair Disk. I get the message 'The desk 'macintosh HD could not be unmounted' Suggestions? From the Disk utility in Utilities in your Applications folder Noyou cannot Repair Disk but YES you can repair permissions try that Bob Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Battery icon
The battery icon in the menu bar on my 3 month old MacBook Pro has a X on it when the power cord is connected and also when running on battery power only. The X remains there no matter display preference I choose: icon, percentage or time. The words No batteries available and Power Source: Battery are greyed out when running on battery power only. The words No batteries available and Power Source: Power Adapter are greyed out when mains power is plugged in. Green light is on on power plug. Need I be concerned? 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo OS 10.5.5 Regards, Michael Hawkins. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff (Japan: population 125 miillion+, 339 people per square kilometre, Australia: population 20 million people, 2.6 people per square kilometre). Even if you give yourself a 1 GB/s personal connection in Australia, you will be limited by our geographic distance latency! On top of this, a lot of our internet usage is basically with offshore locations -- US, Europe, etc., and Australia has always been doubly disadvantaged by the international terms of trade, meaning that our ISPs have been at an ongoing disadvantage. But yes, Australian internet access is very slow and very costly compared to our peers. James. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Battery icon
Fixed the problem turning off the computer, disconnecting the power cord and removing and replacing the battery. Regards, Michael Hawkins. The battery icon in the menu bar on my 3 month old MacBook Pro has a X on it when the power cord is connected and also when running on battery power only. The X remains there no matter display preference I choose: icon, percentage or time. The words No batteries available and Power Source: Battery are greyed out when running on battery power only. The words No batteries available and Power Source: Power Adapter are greyed out when mains power is plugged in. Green light is on on power plug. Need I be concerned? 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo OS 10.5.5 Regards, Michael Hawkins. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
James, Australia is one of the most urbanised countries in the world with 92.7% (2005) of the population living in cities and the majority of them located in just 5 main centres. We are ranked the 11 most urbanised country in the world. Japan ranks 68th. When the majority of the population is concentrated in a few dense locations the cost of establishing an infrastructure is far less. We don't really need to put optical fibre in the central deserts to keep the kangaroos entertained so stating population density is misleading. reference http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_detail.cfm? country=AUindicatorid=30 Additional Mr Rudd promised high speed internet for everyone. I'm still waiting.. Regards, Eugene On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff (Japan: population 125 miillion+, 339 people per square kilometre, Australia: population 20 million people, 2.6 people per square kilometre). Even if you give yourself a 1 GB/s personal connection in Australia, you will be limited by our geographic distance latency! On top of this, a lot of our internet usage is basically with offshore locations -- US, Europe, etc., and Australia has always been doubly disadvantaged by the international terms of trade, meaning that our ISPs have been at an ongoing disadvantage. But yes, Australian internet access is very slow and very costly compared to our peers. James. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
you will to have wait a long time, because it a purely commercial thing still telstra is the only business that has a phone line going into every house and it's obvious that telstra is not reducing the profit just to make the internet faster.. James On 29/09/2008, at 21:50, Eugene wrote: James, Australia is one of the most urbanised countries in the world with 92.7% (2005) of the population living in cities and the majority of them located in just 5 main centres. We are ranked the 11 most urbanised country in the world. Japan ranks 68th. When the majority of the population is concentrated in a few dense locations the cost of establishing an infrastructure is far less. We don't really need to put optical fibre in the central deserts to keep the kangaroos entertained so stating population density is misleading. reference http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_detail.cfm? country=AUindicatorid=30 Additional Mr Rudd promised high speed internet for everyone. I'm still waiting.. Regards, Eugene On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in th SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone number/iPhone
On 29/09/2008, at 8:56 AM, Stuart Breden wrote: A few small points about iPhone. I'm progressively editing my Address Book/s. Am advised to have the same address book on all Mas'c so that everything will be upgraded with MobileMe. The question is the format of telephone numbers. Do they have to be (08) 9257 1577 and/or 0892571577 05 +61 (0)8 9257 1577 and/or +61892451577? And from the addresses in Address Book can you go directly to Google Maps etc as you can on the Mac's? iPhone 2.0 would format the string 93326482 as 9332 6482. iPhone 2.1 formats it as 9 332 6482. After placing the area code at the beginning of the string, ie 0893326482, iPhone 2.1 automatically formats it as (08) 9332 6482. I haven't fully explored all the other formats, and they don't seen to be documented anywhere, but mobile numbers do seem to format automatically to the pattern of xxx xxx.. Just type the number in without spaces and let the iPhone do the rest. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone number/iPhone
On your Mac in AddressBook/Preferences/Phone/Custom you can set the
format that you prefer for phone numbers. It will follow the
formatting you set. With a little refining you can get local,
interstate, international and mobile phones formatted the way you
prefer. eg
returns 1234 5678 use this for local numbers
+61 ### ### ### returns +61 123 456 789 use this for international
from Australia
04## ### ### returns 0412 345 678 use this for formatting Australian
mobile numbers
0# returns 01 2345 6789 use this for interstate numbers
The iPhone then uses the formatting when it syncs to your Mac.
Regards,
Eugene
On 30/09/2008, at 8:09 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
On 29/09/2008, at 8:56 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
A few small points about iPhone.
I'm progressively editing my Address Book/s. Am advised to have
the same address book on all Mas'c so that everything will be
upgraded with MobileMe.
The question is the format of telephone numbers.
Do they have to be (08) 9257 1577 and/or 0892571577 05 +61 (0)8
9257 1577 and/or +61892451577?
And from the addresses in Address Book can you go directly to
Google Maps etc as you can on the Mac's?
iPhone 2.0 would format the string 93326482 as 9332 6482. iPhone
2.1 formats it as 9 332 6482. After placing the area code at the
beginning of the string, ie 0893326482, iPhone 2.1 automatically
formats it as (08) 9332 6482.
I haven't fully explored all the other formats, and they don't seen
to be documented anywhere, but mobile numbers do seem to format
automatically to the pattern of xxx xxx.. Just type the number
in without spaces and let the iPhone do the rest.
--
Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913
Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
Hi All, Answer.. TELSTRA, and Communication Act. As Reasoning , research NAKED DSL when technology available, and the actual take up date by ISP's in Australia? Has this reduced the cost ? But, whom still controls communication from exchange to socket? It does not take a rocket scientist to contemplate timeframe of next stage; be it optical fibre or other technology within the alliances of Canberra. Policy and political eradication before one considers the actual cost and stately infrastructure modernisation needed for uptake by consumer. Cheers! `Rob On 29Sep2008, at 10:43 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permissions
Hi Stuart, I can't claim to have any idea what is going on, but first thoughts on the sort of things I would try might be: - Fire up the computer in target mode, connect to another computer, and try repairing from there (this may not be an option for you). - Are you trying this from an account with admin privileges (I don't actually know if this makes a difference, but...) - Create a new user (with admin privileges) and try again logged in as the new user. - If you have an external disc Superduper: Superduper has an option to repair permissions when cloning and gives you an error log if it fails to complete its task - this might give you another way to try, though it may just give you the same problem/error message. HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 29/9/08 7:34 PM, Stuart Breden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes booted from install disk all right! Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 29/09/2008, at 9:46 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Bob Stuart Bob, surely if he is booting from the OS 10 install disk he SHOULD be able to repair both disc and permissions - you just can't repair the actual disc you are booted from? Stuart, are you sure you have actually booted from the install disc - I have had problems in the past where just holding down the C key at start-up DIDN't start from the disk (don't know why) but in that case holding down the option key at startup DID give me the choice between HD and install disc - so I was then able to boot from the installation disc. HTH Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 29/9/08 9:19 AM, Robert Howells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 9:10 AM, Stuart Breden wrote: Hi there I have a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 at work and at home running OS 10.5.5 I am having problems with permissions. Can;t find anything on the WAMUG web site. What happens when I boot fro the OS 10 install disk is that I can't Verify or Repair Disk Permissions and not Repair Disk. I get the message 'The desk 'macintosh HD could not be unmounted' Suggestions? From the Disk utility in Utilities in your Applications folder Noyou cannot Repair Disk but YES you can repair permissions try that Bob Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipod charger
I just had an iPod 4GB nano stolen and the replacement is a newer type. (more squarish in shape) It came without a mains charger and the people at Hardly Normals had no idea whether my old MAINS charge was suitable. Is it? Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
Which just goes to show that the Australian people should have retained ownership of the exchanges. That way any company could put in whatever last-mile gear they wanted. Some times it really grinds my gears that Australia keeps selling off it's assets for short-term financial gain. On 30/09/2008, at 9:05 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi All, Answer.. TELSTRA, and Communication Act. As Reasoning , research NAKED DSL when technology available, and the actual take up date by ISP's in Australia? Has this reduced the cost ? But, whom still controls communication from exchange to socket? It does not take a rocket scientist to contemplate timeframe of next stage; be it optical fibre or other technology within the alliances of Canberra. Policy and political eradication before one considers the actual cost and stately infrastructure modernisation needed for uptake by consumer. Cheers! `Rob On 29Sep2008, at 10:43 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
On 30/09/2008, at 9:05 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi All, Answer.. TELSTRA, and Communication Act. As Reasoning , research NAKED DSL when technology available, Since the Naked DSL subject has come up , here are two things for you to ponder on :- 1. With Naked DSL when the Power goes outthe phone will stop working . How do you report the Power Fault ? ( Not everybody chooses to have a mobile phone ) . 2. A normal phone draws current through the physical cable pair . In doing that it keeps the wire joints electrically wetted so they keep conducting voice currents . The Data signal does not do the same electrical wetting and as a result any poor joint can deteriorate so that you could end up with a weak or no ADSL data signal. As a consequence there would also be no phone ! It is a POTENTIAL PROBLEM ! The joys of technology ! Bob and the actual take up date by ISP's in Australia? Has this reduced the cost ? But, whom still controls communication from exchange to socket? It does not take a rocket scientist to contemplate timeframe of next stage; be it optical fibre or other technology within the alliances of Canberra. Policy and political eradication before one considers the actual cost and stately infrastructure modernisation needed for uptake by consumer. Cheers! `Rob On 29Sep2008, at 10:43 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
We might be highly urbanised, but you still have to look at the numbers, 20 million people vs. 125 million people in Japan. The cost per head of population of installing infrastructure is a lot higher. And you then need every one of those people to pay to use the infrastructure, or have it heavily subsidised, or both. On 30/09/2008, at 9:35 AM, Matthew Healey wrote: Which just goes to show that the Australian people should have retained ownership of the exchanges. That way any company could put in whatever last-mile gear they wanted. Some times it really grinds my gears that Australia keeps selling off it's assets for short-term financial gain. On 30/09/2008, at 9:05 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi All, Answer.. TELSTRA, and Communication Act. As Reasoning , research NAKED DSL when technology available, and the actual take up date by ISP's in Australia? Has this reduced the cost ? But, whom still controls communication from exchange to socket? It does not take a rocket scientist to contemplate timeframe of next stage; be it optical fibre or other technology within the alliances of Canberra. Policy and political eradication before one considers the actual cost and stately infrastructure modernisation needed for uptake by consumer. Cheers! `Rob On 29Sep2008, at 10:43 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
On 30/09/2008, at 9:57 AM, James Green wrote: We might be highly urbanised, but you still have to look at the numbers, 20 million people vs. 125 million people in Japan. The cost per head of population of installing infrastructure is a lot higher. And you then need every one of those people to pay to use the infrastructure, or have it heavily subsidised, or both Like a mentioned before, this would be a relevant point it we didn't have any infrastructure to start with but every house already has at least three services running to them (5 if you count Cable and Gas). It seems to be economical for all of these other companies to run unique services to every house. Why can't someone run Fibre? - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipod charger
I think so, Bill. I am using the same charger for my 3G 20Gb, 5G 30 Gb and iPod Touch and wife's Nano 1G without any problems. Andrew On 30/09/2008, at 9:35 AM, bill parker wrote: I just had an iPod 4GB nano stolen and the replacement is a newer type. (more squarish in shape) It came without a mains charger and the people at Hardly Normals had no idea whether my old MAINS charge was suitable. Is it? Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
emailed phone numbers
Hi all Another novice question from a non-novice. I have noticed recently that moving my cursor over a phone number in an email puts it in a greyed-out dotted box with a downward pointing triangle. What does this mean? Ian -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipod charger
I should also say, I am using a genuine Apple charger (came with 20Gb about 4yrs ago). I can't vouch for any after market ones. Andrew On 30/09/2008, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Alison wrote: I think so, Bill. I am using the same charger for my 3G 20Gb, 5G 30 Gb and iPod Touch and wife's Nano 1G without any problems. Andrew On 30/09/2008, at 9:35 AM, bill parker wrote: I just had an iPod 4GB nano stolen and the replacement is a newer type. (more squarish in shape) It came without a mains charger and the people at Hardly Normals had no idea whether my old MAINS charge was suitable. Is it? Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
iphone data cost review
FYI a bit old ( july) but an interesting review/comparison of data costs for the iphone http://www.applesource.com.au/iphone/soa/iPhone-madness-What-s-a-gigabyte-worth-/0,270787,339290561,00.htm -- gary dorn north perth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emailed phone numbers
On 30/09/2008, at 10:49 AM, Ian Reid wrote: Hi all Another novice question from a non-novice. I have noticed recently that moving my cursor over a phone number in an email puts it in a greyed-out dotted box with a downward pointing triangle. What does this mean? Hello Ian, If you click hold on that arrow you will can 'Create a New Contact' or 'Add to Existing Contact' Add to Address Book. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
2008/9/30 Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30/09/2008, at 9:57 AM, James Green wrote: every house already has at least three services running to the (5 if you count Cable and Gas). It seems to be economical... Huh? Plumbed power, gas, water -- all essentials, part of most building designs, and a virtually guaranteed market. Cable internet -- optional! Underground power -- look at who has to pay for that! We have variable (good and *bad*) grades of telecomms infrastructure, and plently of population living in units and flats with specific limitations. For a long time (maybe not since the last year or so) many urban houses didn't even have ADSL, let alone Cable. I'm sure someone can run Fibre, as you say, but have we had the latent subscriber demand and density for it to be a lucrative bet? Maybe now the time is right, governments permitting... James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
Hi Bob, Phones power is an interesting topic As you say, the old phones used to draw their power from the actual phone line, so would keep working through a power cut. However, go into any phone outlet/seller now and you will be hard pushed to find one of these basic phones. Most of us use cordless sets, which require a power supply, even many of the single unit phones have answering machines et al, they also have their own power supply. Of course, most people tend to have mobile phones now - so they are covered when the power goes out (as long as it is back on before the battery dies!). I've got the cordless baseset plugged into the UPS - so the phone will keep working for a while (depending how quickly I shut down the computer). Of course, if you rely on VOIP (as in Naked DSL) you also need to keep the modem up and running (get a big enough UPS!). Regarding the phone line deterioration - this is definitely a problem which affects data/ADSL long before it gets bad enough to affect the voice calls - I had variable problems for over a year at the old house which was due (knowledge in hindsight!) to corrosion of the line - the trouble was it came and went (presumably with the weather - with a time lag for the capillary/seepage effect) and the various Telstra checks just kept reporting that there was no problem with the line. One day, it suddenly got so bad that there was actual audible noise on the line - at that point the (dial-up back then) internet connection had effectively disappeared and, finally, it showed up as a line problem that the telstra guy came and fixed - the connection speed was then much better than at any time I had been in the house - so the problem had obviously been developing over many years! I guess that is one good thing about the old analogue voice phone - it keeps working over REALLY crappy lines! Have fun, Neil - who seems to have rambled well off-topic this time :) -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 30/9/08 9:52 AM, Robert Howells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/09/2008, at 9:05 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Hi All, Answer.. TELSTRA, and Communication Act. As Reasoning , research NAKED DSL when technology available, Since the Naked DSL subject has come up , here are two things for you to ponder on :- 1. With Naked DSL when the Power goes outthe phone will stop working . How do you report the Power Fault ? ( Not everybody chooses to have a mobile phone ) . 2. A normal phone draws current through the physical cable pair . In doing that it keeps the wire joints electrically wetted so they keep conducting voice currents . The Data signal does not do the same electrical wetting and as a result any poor joint can deteriorate so that you could end up with a weak or no ADSL data signal. As a consequence there would also be no phone ! It is a POTENTIAL PROBLEM ! The joys of technology ! Bob and the actual take up date by ISP's in Australia? Has this reduced the cost ? But, whom still controls communication from exchange to socket? It does not take a rocket scientist to contemplate timeframe of next stage; be it optical fibre or other technology within the alliances of Canberra. Policy and political eradication before one considers the actual cost and stately infrastructure modernisation needed for uptake by consumer. Cheers! `Rob On 29Sep2008, at 10:43 pm, Matthew Healey wrote: On 29/09/2008, at 7:48 PM, James Devenish wrote: Well, Maybe every ISP in Australia is ripping us off, but I'm not sure that a tit-for-tat comparison with other countries is particularly fair on ISPs. I am led to believe that our small market size and population sparcity make the situation challenging for Australian ISPs when you factor in the cost of our infrastructure, equipment and staff Yes, but every (most) house(s) out there already have power lines, water, and telephone lines running out to them. So we have proven that we have the technology and resources to run a unique service to each residence from a central location. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Commsec website today
Hello people using Comsec website, I'm able log in to Comsec fine Log Off fine, but the pages are not fully loading today and I'm unable to access 'My Portfolio' or 'My Profile'. Is anyone else having trouble with this today please? https://www.comsec.com.au/default.aspx?ShowSurvey=true I've tried with Safari 3.1.2 and Firefox 2.0.0.17 Thanks. Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commsec website today
Hi Ronni No, I logged on earlier to check the carnage :( and accessed my portfolio OK. I just tried again and checked both portfolio and profile no problems. This was from the laptop which is running Firefox 2.0.0.14 (I need to upgrade but will probably go straight to Firefox 3). In the past, I have had problems with Commsec behaving very badly when the Market frenzy gets too bad - seemed like their servers couldn't take it when too many of their worried punters all tried to go online at once! Then it would be OK when the panic subsided! I had presumed they beefed things up since then but... Anyway, no problems for me at the times I logged on. HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 30/9/08 11:35 AM, Ronda Brown at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people using Comsec website, I'm able log in to Comsec fine Log Off fine, but the pages are not fully loading today and I'm unable to access 'My Portfolio' or 'My Profile'. Is anyone else having trouble with this today please? https://www.comsec.com.au/default.aspx?ShowSurvey=true I've tried with Safari 3.1.2 and Firefox 2.0.0.17 Thanks. Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Every ISP in Oz is ripping you off
On 30Sep2008, at 10:40 am, Matthew Healey wrote: On 30/09/2008, at 9:57 AM, James Green wrote: We might be highly urbanised, but you still have to look at the numbers, 20 million people vs. 125 million people in Japan. The cost per head of population of installing infrastructure is a lot higher. And you then need every one of those people to pay to use the infrastructure, or have it heavily subsidised, or both Like a mentioned before, this would be a relevant point it we didn't have any infrastructure to start with but every house already has at least three services running to them (5 if you count Cable and Gas). It seems to be economical for all of these other companies to run unique services to every house. Why can't someone run Fibre? As answered before: TELSTRA, and the (tele)communication act. Contact local MP for a clarification, or communication ombudsman for your state. To be quite frank we did not sell it off, but buried it further in political depravity thanks to Howard government; another one of those so-called great legacies that he has left our great nation. Who can blame TELSTRA for trying to hang onto an income source, as it has been proved time again they can not be competitive. Mute point to ponder: I have Optus optical fibre passing through the front of my property 10 feet form junction box, and in connection pit at front of house. It is possible to connect through this cable to an exchange and back to my house, but I am not allowed to connect to this as my source of communications above act prohibits this except down copper line controlled by TESTRA. Cheers! `Rob... - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
