Re: Laptops and tea

[Rob Phillips]

Thanks Daniel

We'll see how it goes.

Rob

On 6/05/13 7:34 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> I'm not a "Service Tech" per say,..but have worked (or had) a few of these of 
> late that I can offer some advise.
> Depending on how much has "Stuck" to the Motherboard then yes it can slowly 
> degrade to the point of other things not working. This can be weeks, months 
> (years?). Sometimes things work fine and it keeps going for ages, other times 
> it can blow or stop things working straight away. And the liquid spilt can 
> affect what happens as well also.
> I had a machine just the other day that a client had spilt cold coffee into 
> the laptop. (on the a,s,d etc key side). The laptop worked semi well, but the 
> screen would flicker in and out. Eventually the screen would sometimes power 
> up and sometimes not. So although it "would" work, it wasn't going to last.
> So I took into to get looked over to be sure. And yeh, sure enough the 
> motherboard needed replaced.
> But I've had others for different clients with different liquids spilt on it, 
> still working fine to do this day.
> (One of the reasons I have Keyboard covers on all my keyboards and laptop 
> keyboards, just to "help" in these situations.) ;o) (I had water spill over a 
> home keyboard and it never touched the keyboard. I just took it off, washed 
> it and bought it back on. Saved it very well).
>
> Their isn't a protective cover under the keyboard. Each point under the 
> keyboard goes to different things. Just depends on where it was spilt. (And 
> each machine has different "indicators" under it show if it's had water 
> damage or not. I remember reading on one of the websites that one of the new 
> machines has about 9 indicators built into to detect "damage".
>
> The cost of the motherboard can differ from model to model. But they range in 
> the price range of $700-$900+ depending on the model. (Sorry don't have the 
> info close to me, but a service centre should be able to advise).
> And yes, some insurance policies will cover "spillage", it just depends on 
> your insurance.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Kind regards
> Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
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> MacWizardry
>
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> On 06/05/2013, at 12:31 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>
>> Hi people
>>
>> This is one for the hardware people...
>>
>> We're 6 weeks into a camping trip around Australia and we've run into a 
>> little problem. I was working on my new Macbook Pro when a strong gust of 
>> wind pushed the awning against my tea cup, which then partly spilt over the 
>> laptop keyboard. It was black tea with sugar.  I immediately tipped the 
>> laptop over to get the liquid off.
>>
>> Since then, the keyboard keys have been a bit sticky, but work OK. However, 
>> the lightning? port which I use to connect to data projectors has been flaky 
>> and hardly ever works. I took the machine into a Mac shop in Launceston and 
>> the guy confirmed the problem with the lightning port, but noted the sticky 
>> keyboard.
>>
>> He said the motherboard would slowly fail through corrosion and I should 
>> contact my insurers.
>>
>> My questions are:
>>  • Is the guy right?
>>  • Is there a protective cover under the keyboard?
>>  • What is the cost of a replacement motherboard?
>> MacBook Pro
>> 15-inch, Mid 2012
>> Processor  2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
>> Memory  8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
>> Graphics  Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB
>> Cheers
>> Rob
>> -- 
>> Rob Phillips, 30 Ashby St, Wanneroo
>> r.phill...@iinet.net.au Mobile: 0416 065 054
>> semi-retired telecommuting from anywhere!
>> Current location: marooned in Tasmania waiting for a spot on the ferry!
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Re: Laptops and tea

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Rob

I'm not a "Service Tech" per say,..but have worked (or had) a few of these of 
late that I can offer some advise.
Depending on how much has "Stuck" to the Motherboard then yes it can slowly 
degrade to the point of other things not working. This can be weeks, months 
(years?). Sometimes things work fine and it keeps going for ages, other times 
it can blow or stop things working straight away. And the liquid spilt can 
affect what happens as well also.
I had a machine just the other day that a client had spilt cold coffee into the 
laptop. (on the a,s,d etc key side). The laptop worked semi well, but the 
screen would flicker in and out. Eventually the screen would sometimes power up 
and sometimes not. So although it "would" work, it wasn't going to last. 
So I took into to get looked over to be sure. And yeh, sure enough the 
motherboard needed replaced.
But I've had others for different clients with different liquids spilt on it, 
still working fine to do this day.
(One of the reasons I have Keyboard covers on all my keyboards and laptop 
keyboards, just to "help" in these situations.) ;o) (I had water spill over a 
home keyboard and it never touched the keyboard. I just took it off, washed it 
and bought it back on. Saved it very well).

Their isn't a protective cover under the keyboard. Each point under the 
keyboard goes to different things. Just depends on where it was spilt. (And 
each machine has different "indicators" under it show if it's had water damage 
or not. I remember reading on one of the websites that one of the new machines 
has about 9 indicators built into to detect "damage".

The cost of the motherboard can differ from model to model. But they range in 
the price range of $700-$900+ depending on the model. (Sorry don't have the 
info close to me, but a service centre should be able to advise).
And yes, some insurance policies will cover "spillage", it just depends on your 
insurance. 

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

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On 06/05/2013, at 12:31 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:

> Hi people
> 
> This is one for the hardware people...
> 
> We're 6 weeks into a camping trip around Australia and we've run into a 
> little problem. I was working on my new Macbook Pro when a strong gust of 
> wind pushed the awning against my tea cup, which then partly spilt over the 
> laptop keyboard. It was black tea with sugar.  I immediately tipped the 
> laptop over to get the liquid off.  
> 
> Since then, the keyboard keys have been a bit sticky, but work OK. However, 
> the lightning? port which I use to connect to data projectors has been flaky 
> and hardly ever works. I took the machine into a Mac shop in Launceston and 
> the guy confirmed the problem with the lightning port, but noted the sticky 
> keyboard.
> 
> He said the motherboard would slowly fail through corrosion and I should 
> contact my insurers.
> 
> My questions are:
>   • Is the guy right?
>   • Is there a protective cover under the keyboard?
>   • What is the cost of a replacement motherboard?
> MacBook Pro
> 15-inch, Mid 2012
> Processor  2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
> Memory  8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
> Graphics  Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB
> Cheers
> Rob
> -- 
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> r.phill...@iinet.net.au Mobile: 0416 065 054 
> semi-retired telecommuting from anywhere! 
> Current location: marooned in Tasmania waiting for a spot on the ferry!
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Laptops and tea

[Rob Phillips]

Hi people

This is one for the hardware people...

We're 6 weeks into a camping trip around Australia and we've run into a 
little problem. I was working on my new Macbook Pro when a strong gust 
of wind pushed the awning against my tea cup, which then partly spilt 
over the laptop keyboard. It was black tea with sugar. I immediately 
tipped the laptop over to get the liquid off.


Since then, the keyboard keys have been a bit sticky, but work OK. 
However, the lightning? port which I use to connect to data projectors 
has been flaky and hardly ever works. I took the machine into a Mac shop 
in Launceston and the guy confirmed the problem with the lightning port, 
but noted the sticky keyboard.


He said the motherboard would slowly fail through corrosion and I should 
contact my insurers.


My questions are:

 * Is the guy right?
 * Is there a protective cover under the keyboard?
 * What is the cost of a replacement motherboard?

MacBook Pro
15-inch, Mid 2012
Processor  2.6 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory  8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics  Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB

Cheers
Rob

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Re: WWDC 2012 Notes- New laptops, OSX Mountain Lion info (out next month)

[Peter Sealy]

I suspect it is because iPhone 3Gs has a camera and iPad does not. iOS6 
integrates with the camera.

Just my 2c

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On 12/06/2012, at 12:13 PM, Tim Law wrote:

> 
> So iPad 1 is about to be left behind?  :-(   
> I would have thought the processor in the iPad 1 would be of similar capacity 
> to the iPhone 3Gs, which will take iOS6. So why is a two year old device 
> being left behind in iOS upgrades?  That's a rhetorical question really, just 
> frustrated.  These are the sorts of things that start to chip away at the 
> faith of long term users. 
> 
> Tim

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Re: WWDC 2012 Notes- New laptops, OSX Mountain Lion info (out next month)

[lynnkoh]

what about us people who are still happy with our old devices, but want the 
upgrades or cant afford to get the new devices so soon? everything is for ipad2 
or better, like everything work with OSX.6 or better (im still on 5.8)...

im with you tim.

regards
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On 12/06/2012, at 2:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> iOS6 will ship US fall. iPhone 3Gs or better, iPad 2 or better, iPod Touch 
> Gen4 or better.

So iPad 1 is about to be left behind?  :-(   
I would have thought the processor in the iPad 1 would be of similar capacity 
to the iPhone 3Gs, which will take iOS6. So why is a two year old device being 
left behind in iOS upgrades?  That's a rhetorical question really, just 
frustrated.  These are the sorts of things that start to chip away at the faith 
of long term users. 

Tim


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Re: WWDC 2012 Notes- New laptops, OSX Mountain Lion info (out next month)

[Tim Law]

On 12/06/2012, at 2:55 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> iOS6 will ship US fall. iPhone 3Gs or better, iPad 2 or better, iPod Touch 
> Gen4 or better.

So iPad 1 is about to be left behind?  :-(   
I would have thought the processor in the iPad 1 would be of similar capacity 
to the iPhone 3Gs, which will take iOS6. So why is a two year old device being 
left behind in iOS upgrades?  That's a rhetorical question really, just 
frustrated.  These are the sorts of things that start to chip away at the faith 
of long term users. 

Tim


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[Daniel Kerr]

(Thanks iinet for the one night I need the internet to do "maintenance". 
Greatly appreciated!!) Sigh. 
Thanks Telstra / iPhone for Personal Hotspot so I can still get the internet to 
my laptop via my iPhone!!! lol)

Anyway,…

Upgraded MacBook Airs
Up to 2GHz i7 / Up to 8GB RAM, 1600MHz, Up to 512GB SSD. USB2/3, upgraded 
FaceTime camera.
11" and 13". Slightly cheaper. Available "today"

Upgraded MacBook Pros
Up to 2.7GHz Quad Core i7, Up to 8GB 1600MHz RAM
Discrete GPU 1GB (faster graphics).
USB3 on both ports.
Same price - "ships today"

New Third Laptop line
"Next Generation MacBookPro" - ("the new flagship")
Thin display, thin laptop. Light.
Retina Display - 15.4" - 2880 x1800 resolution. (Apple applications upgraded to 
work with it).
Up to 2.7GHz Quad core, up to 16GB RAM, 1GB VRAM, Up to 768GB Flash Storage.
Up to 7 hours battery, 30 days stand by.
SD Slot, HDMI, USB2/3, Magesafe2, 2x Thunderbolt, Headphone port
(Thunderbolt Superdrive, Thunderbolt to FW800, Thunderbolt Gigabit Ethernet 
cables coming)
FaceTime HD Camera, Dual Mics, Backlit Keyboard.
Starting Config - 15.4", 2.3GHZ, 8GB RAM, 256GB Flash, 1GB Video - USD$2199. 
Ships "today"

8th Major release of OSX coming soon,…Mountain Lion - Available next month via 
Mac App Store. USD$19.99
Updates all the way back from Snow Leopard!! Free for new Mac's from today. One 
update for all your personal Mac's.
(40% of OSX users using Lion. Took 9 months to get that. Win7 took 27 months to 
get the same level. lol)
Over 200 year features. (They covered 8 - same as online website previously, 
well bar a couple). Dictation in OSX. (Sharing is kinda cool)
New Safari, search in the main bar, iCloud tab browsing. (across all devices). 
Power Nap - "keeps your mac up to date while it sleeps, fetching email, 
reminder and calendar updates, and even photo stream. Will even back up to Time 
Capsule and download updates automatically". (kinda cool).
AIrPlay mirroring - share your screen to "large screen" via AirPlay and AppleTV 
- automagically sends 1080p. Very easy!
Mail VIPs, Gatekeeper, Offline reading list and more. (Lots of new 
China/Chinese features)

80% of the 365m iOS devices sold through to the end of March are running iOS5.
Some interesting stats for message, and notifications. (lol!)
iOS6 - 200 new features, significant enhancements to Siri. (Siri can now launch 
Apps!). They showed off 10.
"Eyes free" - working with Car manufacturers to have a Siri button on steering 
wheel. (lol gotta love it).
Local search is coming around the world. Siri for iPad in iOS6
A lot more Facebook integration. 
Phone app enhanced. New features when a call received (Some "canned 
responses"). Do Not Disturb mode. ( can customise)
FaceTime will now work over Cellular network!! (lol, watch out data 
networks,..???)
Safari update - iCloud tabs, Offline reading list, and more…
Shared Photo Streams. - choose photos, choose friends and you're done. All show 
up and can be commented on.
Mail - "VIP Messages", Flagged Mailbox,  and more
Passbook - Store tickets and boarding passes, movie ticket apps, store cards. A 
virtual wallet of sorts. Appears to be GPS enabled. (Kinda interesting)
Maps - entire new mapping system built from the ground up. All cartography done 
by Apple. (Bye bye GoogleMaps?). Traffic service included. Turn by turn 
navigation. (Wonder if we see this in Australia,..lol). Also works with Siri. 
(LOL. Kids can even ask "are we there yet?. LOL). Flyover - Apple has been 
flying over cities to build 3D photographic model. (Some kinda cool stuff 
there,..And they even had the Sydney Opera House.) :o)
Per account signatures (YAY!!), "Lost Mode", Personal dictionary in 
iCloud,..and more…..
iOS6 will ship US fall. iPhone 3Gs or better, iPad 2 or better, iPod Touch Gen4 
or better.

…where was the one more thing??? Oh well. 
New MacPros?? 17" MacBookPro?? Hmm, time will tell when the site comes live.



I'm sure all the AUD Pricing will be up soon(ish). And the Apple Store with all 
the full specs and info. :)

Enjoy! Some pretty nice gear there. Rumours were mostly correct by the look of 
it,…lol.

Kind regards
Daniel
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[Daniel Kerr]

(Thanks iinet for the one night I need the internet to do "maintenance". 
Greatly appreciated!!) Sigh. 
Thanks Telstra / iPhone for Personal Hotspot so I can still get the internet to 
my laptop via my iPhone!!! lol)

Anyway,…

Upgraded MacBook Airs
Up to 2GHz i7 / Up to 8GB RAM, 1600MHz, Up to 512GB SSD. USB2/3, upgraded 
FaceTime camera.
11" and 13". Slightly cheaper. Available "today"

Upgraded MacBook Pros
Up to 2.7GHz Quad Core i7, Up to 8GB 1600MHz RAM
Discrete GPU 1GB (faster graphics).
USB3 on both ports.
Same price - "ships today"

New Third Laptop line
"Next Generation MacBookPro" - ("the new flagship")
Thin display, thin laptop. Light.
Retina Display - 15.4" - 2880 x1800 resolution. (Apple applications upgraded to 
work with it).
Up to 2.7GHz Quad core, up to 16GB RAM, 1GB VRAM, Up to 768GB Flash Storage.
Up to 7 hours battery, 30 days stand by.
SD Slot, HDMI, USB2/3, Magesafe2, 2x Thunderbolt, Headphone port
(Thunderbolt Superdrive, Thunderbolt to FW800, Thunderbolt Gigabit Ethernet 
cables coming)
FaceTime HD Camera, Dual Mics, Backlit Keyboard.
Starting Config - 15.4", 2.3GHZ, 8GB RAM, 256GB Flash, 1GB Video - USD$2199. 
Ships "today"

8th Major release of OSX coming soon,…Mountain Lion - Available next month via 
Mac App Store. USD$19.99
Updates all the way back from Snow Leopard!! Free for new Mac's from today. One 
update for all your personal Mac's.
(40% of OSX users using Lion. Took 9 months to get that. Win7 took 27 months to 
get the same level. lol)
Over 200 year features. (They covered 8 - same as online website previously, 
well bar a couple). Dictation in OSX. (Sharing is kinda cool)
New Safari, search in the main bar, iCloud tab browsing. (across all devices). 
Power Nap - "keeps your mac up to date while it sleeps, fetching email, 
reminder and calendar updates, and even photo stream. Will even back up to Time 
Capsule and download updates automatically". (kinda cool).
AIrPlay mirroring - share your screen to "large screen" via AirPlay and AppleTV 
- automagically sends 1080p. Very easy!
Mail VIPs, Gatekeeper, Offline reading list and more. (Lots of new 
China/Chinese features)

80% of the 365m iOS devices sold through to the end of March are running iOS5.
Some interesting stats for message, and notifications. (lol!)
iOS6 - 200 new features, significant enhancements to Siri. (Siri can now launch 
Apps!). They showed off 10.
"Eyes free" - working with Car manufacturers to have a Siri button on steering 
wheel. (lol gotta love it).
Local search is coming around the world. Siri for iPad in iOS6
A lot more Facebook integration. 
Phone app enhanced. New features when a call received (Some "canned 
responses"). Do Not Disturb mode. ( can customise)
FaceTime will now work over Cellular network!! (lol, watch out data 
networks,..???)
Safari update - iCloud tabs, Offline reading list, and more…
Shared Photo Streams. - choose photos, choose friends and you're done. All show 
up and can be commented on.
Mail - "VIP Messages", Flagged Mailbox,  and more
Passbook - Store tickets and boarding passes, movie ticket apps, store cards. A 
virtual wallet of sorts. Appears to be GPS enabled. (Kinda interesting)
Maps - entire new mapping system built from the ground up. All cartography done 
by Apple. (Bye bye GoogleMaps?). Traffic service included. Turn by turn 
navigation. (Wonder if we see this in Australia,..lol). Also works with Siri. 
(LOL. Kids can even ask "are we there yet?. LOL). Flyover - Apple has been 
flying over cities to build 3D photographic model. (Some kinda cool stuff 
there,..And they even had the Sydney Opera House.) :o)
Per account signatures (YAY!!), "Lost Mode", Personal dictionary in 
iCloud,..and more…..
iOS6 will ship US fall. iPhone 3Gs or better, iPad 2 or better, iPod Touch Gen4 
or better.

…where was the one more thing??? Oh well. 
New MacPros?? 17" MacBookPro?? Hmm, time will tell when the site comes live.



I'm sure all the AUD Pricing will be up soon(ish). And the Apple Store with all 
the full specs and info. :)

Enjoy! Some pretty nice gear there. Rumours were mostly correct by the look of 
it,…lol.

Kind regards
Daniel
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Re: Mac laptops and firewire

[KEVIN Lock]

Of course. I remember doing that with other PowerPCs.


Ta

Kev




Kevin,

Connect the two with Ethernet cable. Make old Mac share its files. 
Connect new Mac to the server (old Mac). Download files with the new 
Mac.

On 16/03/2010, at 7:45 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



Our daughter recently bought a MacBook without firewire.To get 
all her data from her iBook to the new MacBook is no longer a 
simple process...or is it?


Kev



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Kevin,

Connect the two with Ethernet cable. Make old Mac share its files.  
Connect new Mac to the server (old Mac). Download files with the new  
Mac.

On 16/03/2010, at 7:45 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



Our daughter recently bought a MacBook without firewire.To get  
all her data from her iBook to the new MacBook is no longer a  
simple process...or is it?


Kev



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Our daughter recently bought a MacBook without firewire.To get 
all her data from her iBook to the new MacBook is no longer a simple 
process...or is it?


Kev





Thanks Peter C, Peter H and Eugene
I am glad senility has not yet destroyed my reading faculties.
Shall look at the MacBook pro offerings.
Merv

Eugene wrote:

The firewire port was removed from the latest unibody plastic MacBooks.

The low end MacBook Pro has firewire 800 plus SD card reader.

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My daughter-in-law wishes to purchase a laptop.
Looking at the MacBook specifications I can't see a firewire port.
Am I not reading too well?
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Thanks Peter C, Peter H and Eugene
I am glad senility has not yet destroyed my reading faculties.
Shall look at the MacBook pro offerings.
Merv

Eugene wrote:

The firewire port was removed from the latest unibody plastic MacBooks.

The low end MacBook Pro has firewire 800 plus SD card reader.

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On 16/03/2010, at 7:31 AM, Merv Bond wrote:


My daughter-in-law wishes to purchase a laptop.
Looking at the MacBook specifications I can't see a firewire port.
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Hi you can still get a 13" MacBook with FireWire, but not the cheap  
white one. This 13" is called a MacBook pro as it's aluminium.


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On 16/03/2010, at 7:45 AM, KEVIN Lock  wrote:



Our daughter recently bought a MacBook without firewire.To get  
all her data from her iBook to the new MacBook is no longer a simple  
process...or is it?


Kev





Thanks Peter C, Peter H and Eugene
I am glad senility has not yet destroyed my reading faculties.
Shall look at the MacBook pro offerings.
Merv

Eugene wrote:
The firewire port was removed from the latest unibody plastic  
MacBooks.


The low end MacBook Pro has firewire 800 plus SD card reader.

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> My daughter-in-law wishes to purchase a laptop.
> Looking at the MacBook specifications I can't see a firewire port.
> Am I not reading too well?
> Merv
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Re: Mac laptops and firewire

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On 16/03/2010, at 7:31 AM, Merv Bond wrote:

> 
> My daughter-in-law wishes to purchase a laptop.
> Looking at the MacBook specifications I can't see a firewire port.
> Am I not reading too well?
> Merv


You are correct. The Macbook (the white polycarbonate model) has no Firewire 
port: just two USB 2.0 ports. The 13" Macbook Pro (and the other Macbook Pro 
models as well) has a single Firewire 800 port in addition to the USB ports.

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RE: Mac laptops and firewire

[Crisp, Peter]

Merv, I think you need to step up to a Macbook Pro to get Firewire. My
Macbook 13" does not have Firewire - I go it in Dec '09. The Apple site
will confirm full details of them all for you.

Regards

Peter.
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Mac laptops and firewire

[Merv Bond]

My daughter-in-law wishes to purchase a laptop.
Looking at the MacBook specifications I can't see a firewire port.
Am I not reading too well?
Merv
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Stolen Apple Laptops

[Mark Secker]

After a break in on my house  on the weekend the following Apple laptops are
missing:

Macbook black:  serial number w8809mc0p2
PowerBook (Ti) G4 1Ghz: serial number w8449189qw3, over all good condition
but small but distinct dent in lid
PowerBook (Ti) G4: 500Mhz serial number unknown, over all average condition
but paint flaked off hinge and paint worn off around front palm rest area

iPod Nano 5th gen metallic black serial number ym936c0v72r
iPod Touch: serial number 1a84ourd203, this unit is faulty and only plays
audio via the dock.

In the off chance that they turn up on being offered to anyone on list
please contact me via email or ring the police and quote the incident report
number of 060210 2150 86934.



mark.sec...@uwa.edu.au
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Re: Laptops

[Reg Whitely]

I used a Belkin Tunecast with my PowerBook. My grand daughter sat in  
the back on a trip tp Albany watching the DVDs and I drove listening  
to them in surround sound car hifi! It plugs directly into the  
headphone socket.


Reg

On 21/02/2009, at 8:50 AM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


HI Everyone

Does anyone know if it is possible to connect an MacBook or I-Book  
(haven't got one at the moment , but looking at buying one ) to the  
Car Radio similiar to how it is done with an I-pod.


Haven't got bluetooth on my car rario.

Thanks Martin

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Re: Laptops

[Eugene]

Hi Martin,

most FM transmitters use the standard headphone cable from the  
headphone jack to input into the transmitter. Shouldn't be a problem  
going from an iBook / MacBook. You can get one off ebay for $30  
including shipping from China.


My only concern is why use a $2000 MacBook when a cheap $65 Shuffle or  
compatible cheapo will do the same job and could be left in the car  
without a great loss if stolen.


 Regards,
 Eugene


On 21/02/2009, at 8:50 AM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


HI Everyone

Does anyone know if it is possible to connect an MacBook or I-Book  
(haven't got one at the moment , but looking at buying one ) to the  
Car Radio similiar to how it is done with an I-pod.


Haven't got bluetooth on my car rario.

Thanks Martin

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Laptops

[Martin Sulkowski]

HI Everyone

Does anyone know if it is possible to connect an MacBook or I-Book  
(haven't got one at the moment , but looking at buying one ) to the  
Car Radio similiar to how it is done with an I-pod.


Haven't got bluetooth on my car rario.

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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Peter Bull]

the Departmental Office, as well as
>>> teaching labs, all networked, and only later did PCs proliferate
>>> alongside them.
>>> Memory fails me as to the details of time but largely through Macs
>>> Physics quickly took on board the idea that every staff member
>>> should have a networked computer on the desk and this was more or
>>> less achieved prior to my retirement in 1994.
>>> This household in Albany now runs three Macs, this G5 which more
>>> or less never sleeps, a G3iMac and a MacBook, recently acquired
>>> and wireless networked and which no doubt contributed to the 17%
>>> sales figure.  On the proselyting side, one son whose work is PC
>>> based now has an Intel iMac as part of his elaborate setup and my
>>> other son, also PC based at work and at home, will shortly buy a
>>> wireless based Intel iMac system for all his home entertainment.
>>> May the figures continue to rise; Viva Steve and his fellows!
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> On 23/10/2007, at 9:22 AM, Martin Hill wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 22/10/2007, at 11:19 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>>> I may be wrong but I believe that Macs were sold at UWA in the
>>>>> 70s for basically close to cost to students.  Obviously, Macs
>>>>> were really popular for that reason and because they were so far
>>>>> ahead of Windows at that time.
>>>> 
>>>> I was a student at UWA during the first few years after the Mac's
>>>> release in 1984 and at the time they were still very expensive
>>>> even with the education discount - trust me on this.  My family
>>>> bought an educ discount 512k Mac, dot-matrix Imagewriter and
>>>> external 400k floppy drive for around $4,000 in 1985 from the
>>>> Apple uni consortium shop at UWA and my Mac II with 1MB of RAM,
>>>> twin floppies and no hard disk cost me $8,000 in 1987 also from
>>>> UWA.  After kicking Steve Jobs out, John Sculley and Jean Louise
>>>> Gasse for most of those years followed a very premium pricing
>>>> policy which made them FAR more expensive than the competition.
>>>> 
>>>>> However, this great strategy by Apple did not seem to translate
>>>>> into the "real" world where businesses were sold on Windows.
>>>>> Could this have been caused by Apple's pricing policy outside of
>>>>> the Uni environment?  I would have thought that the students
>>>>> going out into the business world would drag Apple with them.
>>>> 
>>>> Even at the height of Mac popularity, I never saw anything on
>>>> campus at UWA or Curtin like the interest students, the general
>>>> population and my fellow Windows-indoctrinated colleagues are now
>>>> showing in Macs.  In the latest uni student survey below, Apple
>>>> is second only to Dell with 23% owning Macs but the figures
>>>> regarding intent to purchase are mind-boggling:  44% say their
>>>> next machine will be a Mac.  I was founding vice president of the
>>>> University Macintosh Users Club (UMUC) based at UWA from around
>>>> 1985-87 and interest amongst fellow students was *never* remotely
>>>> in that league.
>>>> 
>>>>> Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail
>>>>> of the iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?
>>>> 
>>>> The free iPod with every Mac purchase has undoubtedly helped in
>>>> the education market, but a multiplicity of other factors have
>>>> also contributed:  the move to intel and subsequent Boot Camp and
>>>> virtualisation compatibility which reduces the perceived risk of
>>>> switching close to zero, the plethora of "alpha geeks" and
>>>> prominent bloggers who have switched, the backlash from Vista's
>>>> problematic debut, the safe harbour from malware of the Mac
>>>> platform, as well as more reasonable pricing etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's more detail on the Student survey:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/22/apple.second.with.students/
>>>> 
>>>> "Apple No. 2 behind Dell in student PC survey
>>>> SurveyU.com recently surveyed one thousand students about which
>>>> computer they relied on for their schoolwork. According to the
>>>> survey, Dell is the most popular, with Apple coming in second,
>>>> but the results sho

Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Severin Crisp]

nd because they were so far  
ahead of Windows at that time.


I was a student at UWA during the first few years after the Mac's  
release in 1984 and at the time they were still very expensive  
even with the education discount - trust me on this.  My family  
bought an educ discount 512k Mac, dot-matrix Imagewriter and  
external 400k floppy drive for around $4,000 in 1985 from the  
Apple uni consortium shop at UWA and my Mac II with 1MB of RAM,  
twin floppies and no hard disk cost me $8,000 in 1987 also from  
UWA.  After kicking Steve Jobs out, John Sculley and Jean Louise  
Gasse for most of those years followed a very premium pricing  
policy which made them FAR more expensive than the competition.


However, this great strategy by Apple did not seem to translate  
into the "real" world where businesses were sold on Windows.   
Could this have been caused by Apple's pricing policy outside of  
the Uni environment?  I would have thought that the students  
going out into the business world would drag Apple with them.


Even at the height of Mac popularity, I never saw anything on  
campus at UWA or Curtin like the interest students, the general  
population and my fellow Windows-indoctrinated colleagues are now  
showing in Macs.  In the latest uni student survey below, Apple  
is second only to Dell with 23% owning Macs but the figures  
regarding intent to purchase are mind-boggling:  44% say their  
next machine will be a Mac.  I was founding vice president of the  
University Macintosh Users Club (UMUC) based at UWA from around  
1985-87 and interest amongst fellow students was *never* remotely  
in that league.


Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail  
of the iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?


The free iPod with every Mac purchase has undoubtedly helped in  
the education market, but a multiplicity of other factors have  
also contributed:  the move to intel and subsequent Boot Camp and  
virtualisation compatibility which reduces the perceived risk of  
switching close to zero, the plethora of "alpha geeks" and  
prominent bloggers who have switched, the backlash from Vista's  
problematic debut, the safe harbour from malware of the Mac  
platform, as well as more reasonable pricing etc.


Here's more detail on the Student survey:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/22/apple.second.with.students/

"Apple No. 2 behind Dell in student PC survey
SurveyU.com recently surveyed one thousand students about which  
computer they relied on for their schoolwork. According to the  
survey, Dell is the most popular, with Apple coming in second,  
but the results show that Apple is poised to take first place.  
With 23 percent of the vote, Apple is ten points behind Dell, but  
maintains a seven point lead on the next runner-up, Hewlett- 
Packard, even when taking into account the PC manufacturer's  
daughter companies -- Compaq and VooDoo. Apple has a large lead,  
however, in the other polled statistics, with 44 percent of  
students saying their next machine would be an Apple, and more  
than 80 percent of Apple users bought their computers through the  
company's student program. Dell took second place in those  
particular categories, with only 21 percent saying that they  
would subsequently by a Dell and 30 percent saying their  
purchased their computer through the student discount program.  
respectively.


"One of the things that Apple and Dell have going for them,  
according to the survey, is a well-designed student purchase  
program, whereas the other manufacturers -- HP, Acer, Toshiba,  
Sony, and all of their subsidiaries -- lack a solid program.


"SurveyU.com found that a typical US college student spends an  
average of $1290, and that the students were biased towards cost- 
effective, consumer-grade laptops, with four out of five students  
owning a portable computer versus a desktop model.


"Apple's "secret" weapon in the race to be number one in  
education rests on the shoulders of the venerable iPod,  
SurveyU.com discovers. Thanks to the recent iPod promotion --  
where students who bought a new Mac would receive a iPod nano --  
Apple has gained a lot of market share and only stands to gain  
more, according to statistics. This, together with iTunes U and  
the newly announced "Beyond Campus", has shown how deeply  
committed Apple is to the collective student body."


-Mart


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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Martin Hill]

d only to Dell with 23% owning Macs but the figures regarding  
intent to purchase are mind-boggling:  44% say their next machine  
will be a Mac.  I was founding vice president of the University  
Macintosh Users Club (UMUC) based at UWA from around 1985-87 and  
interest amongst fellow students was *never* remotely in that league.


Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail  
of the iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?


The free iPod with every Mac purchase has undoubtedly helped in  
the education market, but a multiplicity of other factors have  
also contributed:  the move to intel and subsequent Boot Camp and  
virtualisation compatibility which reduces the perceived risk of  
switching close to zero, the plethora of "alpha geeks" and  
prominent bloggers who have switched, the backlash from Vista's  
problematic debut, the safe harbour from malware of the Mac  
platform, as well as more reasonable pricing etc.


Here's more detail on the Student survey:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/22/apple.second.with.students/

"Apple No. 2 behind Dell in student PC survey
SurveyU.com recently surveyed one thousand students about which  
computer they relied on for their schoolwork. According to the  
survey, Dell is the most popular, with Apple coming in second, but  
the results show that Apple is poised to take first place. With 23  
percent of the vote, Apple is ten points behind Dell, but  
maintains a seven point lead on the next runner-up, Hewlett- 
Packard, even when taking into account the PC manufacturer's  
daughter companies -- Compaq and VooDoo. Apple has a large lead,  
however, in the other polled statistics, with 44 percent of  
students saying their next machine would be an Apple, and more  
than 80 percent of Apple users bought their computers through the  
company's student program. Dell took second place in those  
particular categories, with only 21 percent saying that they would  
subsequently by a Dell and 30 percent saying their purchased their  
computer through the student discount program. respectively.


"One of the things that Apple and Dell have going for them,  
according to the survey, is a well-designed student purchase  
program, whereas the other manufacturers -- HP, Acer, Toshiba,  
Sony, and all of their subsidiaries -- lack a solid program.


"SurveyU.com found that a typical US college student spends an  
average of $1290, and that the students were biased towards cost- 
effective, consumer-grade laptops, with four out of five students  
owning a portable computer versus a desktop model.


"Apple's "secret" weapon in the race to be number one in education  
rests on the shoulders of the venerable iPod, SurveyU.com  
discovers. Thanks to the recent iPod promotion -- where students  
who bought a new Mac would receive a iPod nano -- Apple has gained  
a lot of market share and only stands to gain more, according to  
statistics. This, together with iTunes U and the newly announced  
"Beyond Campus", has shown how deeply committed Apple is to the  
collective student body."


-Mart


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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Severin Crisp]

work. According to the  
survey, Dell is the most popular, with Apple coming in second, but  
the results show that Apple is poised to take first place. With 23  
percent of the vote, Apple is ten points behind Dell, but maintains  
a seven point lead on the next runner-up, Hewlett-Packard, even  
when taking into account the PC manufacturer's daughter companies  
-- Compaq and VooDoo. Apple has a large lead, however, in the other  
polled statistics, with 44 percent of students saying their next  
machine would be an Apple, and more than 80 percent of Apple users  
bought their computers through the company's student program. Dell  
took second place in those particular categories, with only 21  
percent saying that they would subsequently by a Dell and 30  
percent saying their purchased their computer through the student  
discount program. respectively.


"One of the things that Apple and Dell have going for them,  
according to the survey, is a well-designed student purchase  
program, whereas the other manufacturers -- HP, Acer, Toshiba,  
Sony, and all of their subsidiaries -- lack a solid program.


"SurveyU.com found that a typical US college student spends an  
average of $1290, and that the students were biased towards cost- 
effective, consumer-grade laptops, with four out of five students  
owning a portable computer versus a desktop model.


"Apple's "secret" weapon in the race to be number one in education  
rests on the shoulders of the venerable iPod, SurveyU.com  
discovers. Thanks to the recent iPod promotion -- where students  
who bought a new Mac would receive a iPod nano -- Apple has gained  
a lot of market share and only stands to gain more, according to  
statistics. This, together with iTunes U and the newly announced  
"Beyond Campus", has shown how deeply committed Apple is to the  
collective student body."


-Mart


Martin Hill
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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Mark Secker]

I may be wrong but I believe that Macs were sold at UWA in the 70s 
for basically close to cost to students.  Obviously, Macs were 
really popular for that reason and because they were so far ahead of 
Windows at that time.


well 80's (84 onward) actually...  and as Martain said, even with 
this discount they were still significantly more expensive than 
whitebox DOS/Windows machines.




However, this great strategy by Apple did not seem to translate into 
the "real" world where businesses were sold on Windows.  Could this 
have been caused by Apple's pricing policy outside of the Uni 
environment?  I would have thought that the students going out into 
the business world would drag Apple with them.  I first used Macs at 
KPMG here in Perth.  They were the world's largest corporate users 
of Macs, but I had heard that they went over to the dark side 
(probably a case of internal politicking).



I think this more relates to the  ability for Wintel  manufacturers 
to build machines with common  off the shelf Intel compatible 
components that achieved a higher economies of scale across the board 
(from manufacturing to assembly to distribution) and using high 
volume sales that allowed much lower profit margins per unit.


Particularly when it comes to open their corporate wallets companies 
were more than willing to purchase bulk so/so  Wintel whiteboxes at 
half the cost of a top shelf brand (be it Apple or IBM or Wang) 
despite higher support costs etc


Effectively this snowballed , as more business/corporations used 
DOS/Windows boxes more business software and corporate oriented 
hardware became Windows only (or at least Windows with laughable Mac 
support), leading to more business sales leading to ... well you get 
the picture.


Apple effectively cornered themselves in to the education and 
artistic industries to sure up their  core profit areas and couldn't 
wriggle their way back out and in to the wider home and corporate 
markets.




Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail of 
the iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?

--

Partly that, as it increased  brand awareness, as even  people here 
who should have known better thought Apple was dead  (or dying) 
until the Gen3 iPod made Apple the industry darlings (I had a manager 
who took a look at my iPod and basically said something along the 
lines of  "how could a bankrupt company like Apple afforded to 
develop that?")


But mostly it's  the Intel change over.
Most of the new buyers are banking on that as either,
1:  they  wanted a mac before but HAD to run some WIndows software 
now VM ware allows that,

or
2: they like the design of the hardware, wanted to try Mac OS but 
want to be able to bail back to Windows (bootcamp) if they couldn't 
handle OSX.






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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Martin Hill]

On 22/10/2007, at 11:19 PM, Alex wrote:
I may be wrong but I believe that Macs were sold at UWA in the 70s  
for basically close to cost to students.  Obviously, Macs were  
really popular for that reason and because they were so far ahead  
of Windows at that time.


I was a student at UWA during the first few years after the Mac's  
release in 1984 and at the time they were still very expensive even  
with the education discount - trust me on this.  My family bought an  
educ discount 512k Mac, dot-matrix Imagewriter and external 400k  
floppy drive for around $4,000 in 1985 from the Apple uni consortium  
shop at UWA and my Mac II with 1MB of RAM, twin floppies and no hard  
disk cost me $8,000 in 1987 also from UWA.  After kicking Steve Jobs  
out, John Sculley and Jean Louise Gasse for most of those years  
followed a very premium pricing policy which made them FAR more  
expensive than the competition.


However, this great strategy by Apple did not seem to translate  
into the "real" world where businesses were sold on Windows.  Could  
this have been caused by Apple's pricing policy outside of the Uni  
environment?  I would have thought that the students going out into  
the business world would drag Apple with them.


Even at the height of Mac popularity, I never saw anything on campus  
at UWA or Curtin like the interest students, the general population  
and my fellow Windows-indoctrinated colleagues are now showing in  
Macs.  In the latest uni student survey below, Apple is second only  
to Dell with 23% owning Macs but the figures regarding intent to  
purchase are mind-boggling:  44% say their next machine will be a  
Mac.  I was founding vice president of the University Macintosh Users  
Club (UMUC) based at UWA from around 1985-87 and interest amongst  
fellow students was *never* remotely in that league.


Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail of  
the iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?


The free iPod with every Mac purchase has undoubtedly helped in the  
education market, but a multiplicity of other factors have also  
contributed:  the move to intel and subsequent Boot Camp and  
virtualisation compatibility which reduces the perceived risk of  
switching close to zero, the plethora of "alpha geeks" and prominent  
bloggers who have switched, the backlash from Vista's problematic  
debut, the safe harbour from malware of the Mac platform, as well as  
more reasonable pricing etc.


Here's more detail on the Student survey:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/22/apple.second.with.students/

"Apple No. 2 behind Dell in student PC survey
SurveyU.com recently surveyed one thousand students about which  
computer they relied on for their schoolwork. According to the  
survey, Dell is the most popular, with Apple coming in second, but  
the results show that Apple is poised to take first place. With 23  
percent of the vote, Apple is ten points behind Dell, but maintains a  
seven point lead on the next runner-up, Hewlett-Packard, even when  
taking into account the PC manufacturer's daughter companies --  
Compaq and VooDoo. Apple has a large lead, however, in the other  
polled statistics, with 44 percent of students saying their next  
machine would be an Apple, and more than 80 percent of Apple users  
bought their computers through the company's student program. Dell  
took second place in those particular categories, with only 21  
percent saying that they would subsequently by a Dell and 30 percent  
saying their purchased their computer through the student discount  
program. respectively.


"One of the things that Apple and Dell have going for them, according  
to the survey, is a well-designed student purchase program, whereas  
the other manufacturers -- HP, Acer, Toshiba, Sony, and all of their  
subsidiaries -- lack a solid program.


"SurveyU.com found that a typical US college student spends an  
average of $1290, and that the students were biased towards cost- 
effective, consumer-grade laptops, with four out of five students  
owning a portable computer versus a desktop model.


"Apple's "secret" weapon in the race to be number one in education  
rests on the shoulders of the venerable iPod, SurveyU.com discovers.  
Thanks to the recent iPod promotion -- where students who bought a  
new Mac would receive a iPod nano -- Apple has gained a lot of market  
share and only stands to gain more, according to statistics. This,  
together with iTunes U and the newly announced "Beyond Campus", has  
shown how deeply committed Apple is to the collective student body."


-Mart


Martin Hill
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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Alex]

funny how so many of the staff here have Windows machines on their 
desktops and yet they have salary packaged Apple Laptops  even the 
IT staff.


When I started here I was the only Pro Mac computer support staff 
member fortnightly IT staff  meetings were usually  10 minutes of 
rational discussions  about Windows and server issues and 5 minutes of 
 putting up with snide remarks about  my "bloody mac users, make them 
use real computers".


Now  4  of the 8 IT staff have macs as their personal, paid for out of 
their own pocket, home machines (even though they have Windows 
machines at work) (though fair enough 2 of those users are using 
bootcamp to occasionally run Windows apps)


And 2 more of them are about to buy new MacBooks (and another one is 
looking for a cheap "oldish" mac to use) which would take it to 7 out 
of 8 of us actually paying for a Mac at home

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Hi Mark & others who may have more knowledge of the real situation!

I may be wrong but I believe that Macs were sold at UWA in the 70s for 
basically close to cost to students.  Obviously, Macs were really 
popular for that reason and because they were so far ahead of Windows 
at that time.


However, this great strategy by Apple did not seem to translate into 
the "real" world where businesses were sold on Windows.  Could this 
have been caused by Apple's pricing policy outside of the Uni 
environment?  I would have thought that the students going out into the 
business world would drag Apple with them.  I first used Macs at KPMG 
here in Perth.  They were the world's largest corporate users of Macs, 
but I had heard that they went over to the dark side (probably a case 
of internal politicking).


Is the latest upswing for Apple a case of riding on the coattail of the 
iPod, which was a masterstroke of design & invention?


Cheers,  Alex


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Re: Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Mark Secker]

As a Mac user since 1985, I find it astonishing to witness the
strength of the resurgence Apple has made over the last few years.
The latest figures continue to that trend:

- Apple is growing at 8 times the rate of the rest of the industry
and now has 8.1% of the whole US market.
- Apple's notebook market share climbs to 17%
- Apple's share of university students is rocketing upwards with 30%
of Harvard students, 21% of Cornell uni, 30% of Virginia Tech and 55%
of Dartmouth College students now owning Macs



funny how so many of the staff here have Windows machines on their 
desktops and yet they have salary packaged Apple Laptops  even 
the IT staff.


When I started here I was the only Pro Mac computer support staff 
member fortnightly IT staff  meetings were usually  10 minutes of 
rational discussions  about Windows and server issues and 5 minutes 
of  putting up with snide remarks about  my "bloody mac users, make 
them use real computers".


Now  4  of the 8 IT staff have macs as their personal, paid for out 
of their own pocket, home machines (even though they have Windows 
machines at work) (though fair enough 2 of those users are using 
bootcamp to occasionally run Windows apps)


And 2 more of them are about to buy new MacBooks (and another one is 
looking for a cheap "oldish" mac to use) which would take it to 7 out 
of 8 of us actually paying for a Mac at home

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Mac marketshare 17% retail laptops, up to 55% of students at some universities

[Martin Hill]

As a Mac user since 1985, I find it astonishing to witness the  
strength of the resurgence Apple has made over the last few years.   
The latest figures continue to that trend:


- Apple is growing at 8 times the rate of the rest of the industry  
and now has 8.1% of the whole US market.

- Apple's notebook market share climbs to 17%
- Apple's share of university students is rocketing upwards with 30%  
of Harvard students, 21% of Cornell uni, 30% of Virginia Tech and 55%  
of Dartmouth College students now owning Macs


More details below.

-Mart

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Mac marketshare at universities USA 11% - 55% in some cases

http://www.twincities.com/business/ci_7030129?nclick_check=1

Mac on campus around the country
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 09/30/2007 08:49:33 AM CDT

Mac use has surged at U.S. colleges and universities. For instance:

Dartmouth College. The New Hampshire Ivy League school, once all but  
Mac-exclusive, saw Windows PCs creep onto the campus in recent years.  
But now Macs are mounting a major comeback. About 55 percent of  
freshmen this semester have Macs, according to a spokeswoman,  
compared with 43 percent in fall 2006 and 30 percent in fall 2005.


University of Virginia. Freshmen are surveyed on their personal  
technology every year. Data for fall 2006 found 20 percent of  
freshmen owning Macs. That's up from 3 percent in 2002. About 77  
percent said they own portable music players, and Apple's iPods  
account for 87 percent of those players.


Available figures for this fall, focused more narrowly on university- 
configured computers sold to students, found Mac's share at 30  
percent, up from 21 percent a year ago.


"At their lowest ebb, in 2000, Macs were awfully hard to find on the  
campus: About one of every 35 students owned one," UV spokesman Brevy  
Cannon said. "Now one in five students has a Mac."


Cornell University. The Ithaca, N.Y., Ivy League school keeps records  
of student computers connecting to its dorm-based Residence Hall  
Network Service. About 6 percent of the computers were Macs in 1999,  
according to a technical staffer, dipping to 5 percent between 2000  
and 2002. Mac share then surged from 8 percent in 2003 to 15 percent  
in 2006 and 21 percent in 2007.


Wilkes University. This Wilkes-Barre, Pa., college is going all-Mac  
with university-owned machines. Most computer labs already are  
equipped with Macs. The university's 1,700-computer network will  
shift entirely to the Mac in the next three years.


These figures don't account for student-owned computers, which are 11  
percent Macs, according to estimates.


--

Mac Laptop Market Share in USA now 17%, Apple now Number 3 overall in  
USA after Dell and HP:


http://www.computerworlduk.com/technology/hardware/laptops/news/ 
index.cfm?newsid=4771


Apple's notebook market share climbs to 17%
Apple in third place overall among all computer makers, says IDC
August 22, 2007

By Jim Dalrymple

While Apple may be focusing a lot of its attention on the iPhone  
lately, consumers are clearly still interested in the company's  
computer offerings.


Data from one market research firm shows Apple's notebook business  
broke 17% while another research firm said Apple has moved into third  
place among computer makers.


According to NPD, Apple's retail notebook market share for June 2007  
was 17.6%, a 2.2% increase over the same period last year when Apple  
posted a 15.4% market share.


As good as the notebooks are doing, Apple's overall standing among  
computer makers is up too.


According to data from research firm IDC, Apple's continued rise in  
computer sales puts it in third place overall among all computer  
makers. This is the first time since 1996 that Apple finds itself  
this high on the list of top selling manufacturers.


Dell took the top spot with HP coming in second place of total unit  
sales. With Apple taking the number three spot, Gateway and Acer  
round out the top five.


The good news continues for Apple - with increased notebook sales  
pushing it forward, the company now has an overall market share of  
5.9%, up 1.1% from the 4.8% it posted this time last year.


In its most recent financial quarter Apple sold 1.76 million Macs, a  
33% rise over what it shipped in the third quarter of 2006 and 2.5  
times the industry-wide growth rate published by market-research firm  
IDC.
Mac sales for the quarter marked a record for the company, topping  
the previous quarterly high of 1.61 million Macs shipped during the  
fourth quarter of 2006.


While there was a rise in desktop sales for the quarter - 634,000  
units compared to 529,000 for the same period in 2006 - laptop unit  
sales skyrocketed 42% to 1.13 million portables. All told, 64% of the  
Macs sold during the quarter were laptops.


--

Gartner says Apple'

Re: stolen laptops..and backups

[Paul Kitchener]

Rosemary Horton wrote:

What's the best method/ hardware/ software for easy backups. 



Hi Rosemary

For an easy backup you could use gmail or similar for low security (or 
other) stuff like address books and bookmarks etc.


For comprehensive protection though I prefer mirroring or duplicating 
the whole drive or partition using one of the many methods recommended 
on this list, such as silverkeeper suggested recently by James.

Firewire or USB2 drives are great accessories given their bang-for-buck.
Using more than one disk one in combination with a floor/wall safe or 
off-site storage can help protect against theft and destruction.

Not an 'easy' option though.

I personally do none of this. Too slack ;-)
I just burn personal folders etc onto disk periodically, even 
occasionally ;-) I then use CDFinder to catalogue them. There are other 
software like this too.


http://www.cdfinder.de/

Of all the system stuff I've backed up over the years I have hardly ever 
restored any out of it (with the possible exception of my trusty old OS 
9 System Folder).

Preference files sometimes, but increasingly less so.

It's a kind of fresh start which has been positive for me more than once.
I like fresh installs of OS X anyway ;-)


HTH

Paul



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Re: stolen laptops..and backups

[James / Hans Kunz]

from my experience the best way to backup is
get "silverkeeper" or similar backup app, get a harddisk that has the  
same size as your internal one & formatt it with hfs+, do a ! 
bootable! backup so all (incl hidden) files are copied to the new  
drive, afterwards your may do the backup on a regulare basis  
(silverkepper will just synchronise, which is faster & no need to  
reformatt the hd)

or you may backup the libraries especially:
user/library/mail

cheers James



On 03/05/2007, at 0:01, Rosemary Horton wrote:


My husband and I both had out laptops stolen...again

His a White 13" macbook (SN 4H6891CUU9B) only 4 months old  
(replaced after the last robbery), mine an older powerbook Metal  
15" (SN W88169C2RG4) that was stolen and returned, had a brand new  
hard drive etc


So if you see them...

Had them replaced by insurance, but no fun!!. Half the joy of  
getting new computers is planning when..and it wouldn't have been  
now with Leopard coming and new hardware around the corner!


.and backups I had weren't very useful.

I know this question has been asked and answered before, but I've  
lost all my wamug mail, so don't have archive address.
What's the best method/ hardware/ software for easy backups. Is  
there a way I could have a system to back up our computers wirelessly?


And don't suggest .mac...that didn't work, half the material didn't  
work because the full backups didn't work...


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Re: stolen laptops...and backups

[David Moyle]

Shay,

Have you attempted to-do this year? I tried last year and they didn't like
the idea and apparently it has never been done and they can't see a reason
for it to be done..

We had 14 laptops stolen from school which went walks..

Thanks, David Moyle
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Subject: Re: stolen laptops...and backups

>My husband and I both had out laptops stolen...again
>
>His a White 13" macbook (SN 4H6891CUU9B) only 4 months old (replaced 
>after the last robbery), mine an older powerbook Metal 15" (SN 
>W88169C2RG4) that was stolen and returned, had a brand new hard 
>drive etc
>
>So if you see them...

Report the serial numbers to Apple on 133-MAC so they'll get picked 
up if serviced, if you haven't done so already.


>I know this question has been asked and answered before, but I've 
>lost all my wamug mail, so don't have archive address.
>What's the best method/ hardware/ software for easy backups. Is 
>there a way I could have a system to back up our computers 
>wirelessly?
>
>And don't suggest .mac...that didn't work, half the material didn't 
>work because the full backups didn't work...

I'm using the belt-and-braces approach of Retrospect and SuperDuper. 
Retrospect's future is somewhat indeterminate though.

There was mention on TidBITs of two online backup services
http://db.tidbits.com/article/8968

namely Mozy and Bandwagon DIY (for iTunes).

Other options are the less than user friendly Amanda:
http://amanda.sourceforge.net/

or BRU

http://tolisgroup.com/

There's a review of some other options here:
http://maczealots.com/articles/backup/

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: stolen laptops...and backups

[Shay Telfer]

My husband and I both had out laptops stolen...again

His a White 13" macbook (SN 4H6891CUU9B) only 4 months old (replaced 
after the last robbery), mine an older powerbook Metal 15" (SN 
W88169C2RG4) that was stolen and returned, had a brand new hard 
drive etc


So if you see them...


Report the serial numbers to Apple on 133-MAC so they'll get picked 
up if serviced, if you haven't done so already.



I know this question has been asked and answered before, but I've 
lost all my wamug mail, so don't have archive address.
What's the best method/ hardware/ software for easy backups. Is 
there a way I could have a system to back up our computers 
wirelessly?


And don't suggest .mac...that didn't work, half the material didn't 
work because the full backups didn't work...


I'm using the belt-and-braces approach of Retrospect and SuperDuper. 
Retrospect's future is somewhat indeterminate though.


There was mention on TidBITs of two online backup services
http://db.tidbits.com/article/8968

namely Mozy and Bandwagon DIY (for iTunes).

Other options are the less than user friendly Amanda:
http://amanda.sourceforge.net/

or BRU

http://tolisgroup.com/

There's a review of some other options here:
http://maczealots.com/articles/backup/

Have fun,
Shay
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stolen laptops..and backups

[Rosemary Horton]

My husband and I both had out laptops stolen...again

His a White 13" macbook (SN 4H6891CUU9B) only 4 months old (replaced  
after the last robbery), mine an older powerbook Metal 15" (SN  
W88169C2RG4) that was stolen and returned, had a brand new hard drive  
etc


So if you see them...

Had them replaced by insurance, but no fun!!. Half the joy of getting  
new computers is planning when..and it wouldn't have been now with  
Leopard coming and new hardware around the corner!


.and backups I had weren't very useful.

I know this question has been asked and answered before, but I've  
lost all my wamug mail, so don't have archive address.
What's the best method/ hardware/ software for easy backups. Is there  
a way I could have a system to back up our computers wirelessly?


And don't suggest .mac...that didn't work, half the material didn't  
work because the full backups didn't work...


Rosemary Horton
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stolen laptops

[Rosemary Horton]

Last Sunday both my husband and I had out laptops stolen form our  
house (with a whole lot of other stuff)


My powerbook was unaccountably returned this Saturday. (They only  
took one set of cords..maybe that's why... The note said they were  
sorry but evidently not sorry enough to give everything back)


My husband's 12" ibook is still missing, and while it's covered by  
insurance, he's in the middle of his phd and some of his notes and  
references were not backed up.


So if in your travels anyone sees his laptop that would be good..

Serial Number:
4H5121B5RCQ



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Requesting Donations of Old Laptops

[Kelly Duffy]

Hi Everyone,

If anyone has any old laptops they're not going to do anything with
I'm trying to collect some for a West Australian animal rescue group
I'm involved with.

The purpose for them is to load the website onto them, the website has
all the details of the pets needing new homes, rescued from pounds,
abusive/neglectful owners or dumped in general, and we'd like to put
these laptops in any petstores that would be willing to take them, so
potential owners can view them in the stores, when they might not of
considered adopting a pet in real need otherwise.

We'll be trying it with a couple at first, so even one or two would be
a big help, we can't see many petshops agreeing to do it for us,
mainly ones that don't sell puppies and kittens, and there's not many
of those, but all it needs to be capable of doing is running a web
page. The page will probably be saved offline so as long as I can put
a CD or zip disk into it then lack of working modem isn't an issue
either.

For more details on the rescue group the website is www.safe.asn.au
and if you have any questions about what I'm doing with the laptops,
or anything else please email me off list.

Cheers,
Kelly

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Re: $100 (US) Laptops for only, errr ummm ,$300 US

[Reg Whitely]

Looks interesting Mark. This might be a slightly better link, showing  
the full photo collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete/sets/ 
72057594143224765/


Reg

On 25 May 2006, at 9:19am, Mark Secker wrote:

MIT have released  photo's of  the first working model of their,  
much lambasted by Bill Gates,  $100 laptop intended for school  
children in 3rd world countries:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete/151943190/in/set-72057594143224765/


and for the privilege of promising to buy  one you  get to pay only  
$300... of course that pledge actually buys 3 units, 2 of which are  
to be donated to their intended target market.

http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop


not to bad for $100- sort of looks like lego meets Ikia meets the  
original "ClamBook" iBook ... but what's with the HP laptop in the  
background plastered in Apple stickers?


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[Mark Secker]

opps should point out that the pledge page isn't an actual purchase 
agreement  as the $100 laptop progect has been  firm in stating that 
they won't be for sale to the general public but that many people 
belive that using this pledge idea is a good way to give the 
organisation some financial incentive  from the private, individual, 
sector to push the unit in to production

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$100 (US) Laptops for only, errr ummm ,$300 US

[Mark Secker]

MIT have released  photo's of  the first working model of their, much 
lambasted by Bill Gates,  $100 laptop intended for school children in 
3rd world countries:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete/151943190/in/set-72057594143224765/


and for the privilege of promising to buy  one you  get to pay only 
$300... of course that pledge actually buys 3 units, 2 of which are 
to be donated to their intended target market.

http://www.pledgebank.com/100laptop


not to bad for $100- sort of looks like lego meets Ikia meets the 
original "ClamBook" iBook ... but what's with the HP laptop in the 
background plastered in Apple stickers?


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[4Sale] Laptops

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All

I have the following for sale if anyone is interested:

PowerBook G4 17"
17" screen
1.33Ghz
512MB RAM
80GB Hard Drive
SuperDrive
Built in Bluetooth 
Built in Airport
Firewire400, Firewire 800, All other normal things.
Box, Disks and all accessories.

A great work horse with large screen real estate!!

Email if you're interested.

Also available:
iBook G3 
12" screen
500Mhz
192MB RAM
10GB Hard Drive
Combo Drive
USB, Firewire
Carry Bag
Works well off mains, but battery lasts about 20mins.
Can also do a good price on a new battery for it.

Again email if you're interested.

Thanks!

Kind Regards
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TV on laptops

[Brett Carboni]

Of interest to notebook junkies.

Only, at that price, maybe a TV is good too. Or maybe El Gato's product.

Brett Carboni
Tsunami
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Re: warm (hot) laptops

[Michael Hawkins]

I use an Australian made lapramp to sit my PowerBook on, whether it's on my
lap or on my desk.

It costs about $25 and is very well designed and convenient. It keeps the
laptop off my lap and lets air circulate around the laptop, thus helping it
run cooler.

I use it on my desk, because it puts the keyboard on a slant and that makes
it easier to use.

Go to  to read more.

Regards,

Michael Hawkins.

Re: itunes & headphones on Apple laptops

[Shay Telfer]

Hi Muggers,
Does anyone know if there is a way to continue to listen to iTunes through
headphones on a Powerbook or iBook with the lid closed? I'm thinking of
plane rides for example, where you'd want to maximise battery time by not
powering up the screen. I realise you can have the display go to sleep
pretty quickly, but having it also closed is a bonus in some contexts.


Try plugging the adapter for an external display into the machine, 
then start it up, or start it from an external USB device with the 
lid closed. This may fool it into starting up without powering up the 
screen.


Have fun,
Shay
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itunes & headphones on Apple laptops

[Greg Colgan]

Hi Muggers,
Does anyone know if there is a way to continue to listen to iTunes through
headphones on a Powerbook or iBook with the lid closed? I'm thinking of
plane rides for example, where you'd want to maximise battery time by not
powering up the screen. I realise you can have the display go to sleep
pretty quickly, but having it also closed is a bonus in some contexts.

Just a thought..thanks!

Greg

Stolen Laptops

[Matthew Healey]

Hi All,

Just had a couple of laptops stolen. Whoever took them wasn't very 
bright as they took a $500 laptop, yet left a $1000 iPod.


The machines were;

PowerBook G4 500 - sn# QT10938MJF8
This laptop had OSX on it, so when they turn it on, they will be 
prompted to insert a password. If anyone gets any "I forgot my 
password" questions, please let me know.


iBook Special Edition (Clam Shell) - sn# UV0260WNH2S
This has quite a bit of data on it, as well as a large amount of photos 
of the Essendon footy players.


I have reported these to Apple.

- Matt

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Re: Are these laptops bluetooth ready?!

[Keith Palmer]

We have USB Bluetooth adapters available and have just reduced the 
pricing to $89.


On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 06:35 AM, Gary Roberts wrote:

They require the USB Bluetooth adapter & that is natively supported 
under OS

X 10.2. We haven't tried it under OS 9.x yet.
Gary Roberts



I am looking at two laptops, the Powerbook G4 667mhz and the iBook G3
700mhz 14.1 inch. Are both of these machines or neither bluetooth
conpliant? Help!
Cal Conkey


Keith Palmer
Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd
PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231
Phone: 0419927101 Fax: 0897915900
the online data storage & technology store -
http://www.zytech.com.au/

Re: Are these laptops bluetooth ready?!

[Gary Roberts]

They require the USB Bluetooth adapter & that is natively supported under OS 
X 10.2. We haven't tried it under OS 9.x yet.



Regards,

Gary Roberts
Desktop Applications
Tel: 08 9322 6789
Fax: 08 9322 6770

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From: Calvin Conkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Are these laptops bluetooth ready?!
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:04:36 +0800

Hi guys,

I am looking at two laptops, the Powerbook G4 667mhz and the iBook G3
700mhz 14.1 inch. Are both of these machines or neither bluetooth
conpliant? Help!

Thanks guys,

Cal Conkey
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second hand G4 Laptops?

[Robert Morgan]

Anyone got any second hand G4 Laptops for sale?