Re: Music

[Marcus Harris]

Hi again Pete and Stephen,
Here’s what I found following my earlier comments.

The music I paid for on the Apple Store in iTunes is shown as “purchased” in 
the list
I selected a couple of songs from the list and copied to a thumb drive.
Then I placed that TD in my Panasonic TV and searched for it.
I Opened it up and lo and behold the tunes are there and played without any 
issues.

Therefore one can safely say that if you buy music from the store —That $2.99 
tune is yours to capture and play on another device.

However, I am not sure if a dedicated Apple user would want to do buy music 
when one can get an Apple Music subscription and play from the ?millions of 
tunes in the cloud!

I personally still buy but on a very selective basis as Yes I have the Apple 
Music subscription.
Some classic albums I just want to own.
It’s been an interesting conversation so thanks for making me check out if 
Apple did gazumpt me. They hadn’t. 
Cheers
 Marcus

> On 30 Jun 2020, at 6:04 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Peter.
> It seems that for me the simplest way to get songs is by downloading to my 
> iPhone.
> Then it automatically syncs to Music on my iMac.
> 
> Thank you for your advice !!
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 4:46 pm, Peter Crisp > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your experiment. 
>> Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or not? This will make 
>> a difference. 
>> 
>> I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to Music>Store 
>> and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that Album. iTunes duly 
>> asked for my password (to enable billing for my $2.19 purchase) and it duly 
>> downloaded into my external drive where my iTunes library is held - but NOT 
>> in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my library but rather an auto created new 
>> folder in my Music parent folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil 
>> Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see the m4a file when doing the "Show in 
>> Finder" option. This file plays in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on 
>> my MBP. 
>> 
>> I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a search in 
>> "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then selected the Neil 
>> Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this downloaded too, BUT it was 
>> placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder beneath my Music top level folder and 
>> the file is called "03 Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might 
>> infer protected. 
>> 
>> But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using Quicktime 
>> Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID credentials to confirm 
>> playability for protected files. It didn't play. 
>> 
>> So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without buying 
>> anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This covers all my 
>> possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist or any Music 
>> content to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays fine). 
>> 
>> I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a Pending 
>> transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose. If Apple's 
>> checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I pay already via 
>> subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will know for future. It will 
>> be useful to know.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
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>> Re: Music
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> This made me very curious.
>> So I went to iTunes and selected Music >“Store”
>> There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home Grown “ album for $19.99.
>> Or one can also buy individual tunes for $2.99.
>> Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra benefit than 
>> streaming from Apple Music.
>> I am going to try and stick some of my bought music onto a thumb drive 
>> tomorrow and see if it plays on another non Apple device.
>> Cheers  
>> Marcus
>> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
>> bought the right to play it on an 

Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, for sure Stephen, this is dead easy, on any device select the music you 
want then it syncs across all your other devices if you have iCloud selected on 
each device. 

Just for info too, I DID get billed the $2.19 so I figure that Apple thinks I 
have greater flexibility for that song being ‘bought’ than all the other 
content gained by subscribing and not specifically buying. I’ve yet to fully 
test the playing of that song on a USB say plugged into my Windows laptop. But 
I actually have no need to further exploit. I am fully covered with my 
subscription and locally downloaded music to my phone when travelling without a 
4G service. 

I hope others can set themselves up to suit their best needs. Subscription 
isn’t cheap but I am ok with it given the vast range of choice I (and my 
family) have with no ceiling on what or how much I can listen to. 

Regards


Pete

> On 30 Jun 2020, at 6:04 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Peter.
> It seems that for me the simplest way to get songs is by downloading to my 
> iPhone.
> Then it automatically syncs to Music on my iMac.
> 
> Thank you for your advice !!
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 4:46 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your experiment. 
>> Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or not? This will make 
>> a difference. 
>> 
>> I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to Music>Store 
>> and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that Album. iTunes duly 
>> asked for my password (to enable billing for my $2.19 purchase) and it duly 
>> downloaded into my external drive where my iTunes library is held - but NOT 
>> in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my library but rather an auto created new 
>> folder in my Music parent folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil 
>> Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see the m4a file when doing the "Show in 
>> Finder" option. This file plays in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on 
>> my MBP. 
>> 
>> I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a search in 
>> "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then selected the Neil 
>> Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this downloaded too, BUT it was 
>> placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder beneath my Music top level folder and 
>> the file is called "03 Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might 
>> infer protected. 
>> 
>> But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using Quicktime 
>> Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID credentials to confirm 
>> playability for protected files. It didn't play. 
>> 
>> So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without buying 
>> anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This covers all my 
>> possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist or any Music 
>> content to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays fine). 
>> 
>> I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a Pending 
>> transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose. If Apple's 
>> checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I pay already via 
>> subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will know for future. It will 
>> be useful to know.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
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>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
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>> 
>> Sent:
>> Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:53:06 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: Music
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> This made me very curious.
>> So I went to iTunes and selected Music >“Store”
>> There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home Grown “ album for $19.99.
>> Or one can also buy individual tunes for $2.99.
>> Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra benefit than 
>> streaming from Apple Music.
>> I am going to try and stick some of my bought music onto a thumb drive 
>> tomorrow and see if it plays on another non Apple device.
>> Cheers  
>> Marcus
>> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
>> 
>> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
>> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
>> copy off to any other storage means. 
>> 
>> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, 

Re: Music

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Peter.
It seems that for me the simplest way to get songs is by downloading to my 
iPhone.
Then it automatically syncs to Music on my iMac.

Thank you for your advice !!

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 4:46 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your experiment. 
> Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or not? This will make 
> a difference. 
> 
> I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to Music>Store 
> and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that Album. iTunes duly asked 
> for my password (to enable billing for my $2.19 purchase) and it duly 
> downloaded into my external drive where my iTunes library is held - but NOT 
> in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my library but rather an auto created new 
> folder in my Music parent folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil 
> Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see the m4a file when doing the "Show in 
> Finder" option. This file plays in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on 
> my MBP. 
> 
> I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a search in 
> "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then selected the Neil 
> Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this downloaded too, BUT it was 
> placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder beneath my Music top level folder and 
> the file is called "03 Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might 
> infer protected. 
> 
> But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using Quicktime 
> Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID credentials to confirm 
> playability for protected files. It didn't play. 
> 
> So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without buying 
> anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This covers all my 
> possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist or any Music content 
> to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays fine). 
> 
> I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a Pending 
> transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose. If Apple's 
> checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I pay already via 
> subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will know for future. It will 
> be useful to know.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
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> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
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> Subject:
> Re: Music
> 
> 
> Hi Pete,
> This made me very curious.
> So I went to iTunes and selected Music >“Store”
> There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home Grown “ album for $19.99.
> Or one can also buy individual tunes for $2.99.
> Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra benefit than 
> streaming from Apple Music.
> I am going to try and stick some of my bought music onto a thumb drive 
> tomorrow and see if it plays on another non Apple device.
> Cheers  
> Marcus
> 
> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> 
> I am not certain about this but ….
> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
> copying it.
> 
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
> stick to take somewhere?
> Kind regards
> Peter
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Re: Music

[Marcus Harris]

Hi Pete,
This made me very curious.
So I went to iTunes and selected Music >“Store”
There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home Grown “ album for $19.99.
Or one can also buy individual tunes for $2.99.
Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra benefit than 
streaming from Apple Music.
I am going to try and stick some of my bought music onto a thumb drive tomorrow 
and see if it plays on another non Apple device.
Cheers  
Marcus

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am not certain about this but ….
>> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
>> copying it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>>> stick to take somewhere?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your
experiment. Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or
not? This will make a difference. 
I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to
Music>Store and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that
Album. iTunes duly asked for my password (to enable billing for my
$2.19 purchase) and it duly downloaded into my external drive where my
iTunes library is held - but NOT in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my
library but rather an auto created new folder in my _Music _parent
folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see
the m4a file when doing the "Show in Finder" option. This file plays
in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on my MBP. 
I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a
search in "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then
selected the Neil Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this
downloaded too, BUT it was placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder
beneath my _Music _top level folder and the file is called "03
Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might infer protected. 
But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using
Quicktime Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID
credentials to confirm playability for protected files. It didn't
play. 
So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without
buying anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This
covers all my possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist
or any Music content to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays
fine). 
I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a
Pending transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose.
If Apple's checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I
pay already via subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will
know for future. It will be useful to know.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Music

 Hi Pete,This made me very curious.So I went to iTunes and selected
Music >“Store”There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home
Grown “ album for $19.99.Or one can also buy individual tunes for
$2.99.Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra
benefit than streaming from Apple Music.I am going to try and stick
some of my bought music onto a thumb drive tomorrow and see if it
plays on another non Apple device.Cheers  Marcus

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually
only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a
CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
Kind regards
Peter
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Re: Music

[Marcus Harris]

Having read this, I now see that what I bought from iTunes has no extra benefit 
to an Apple Music Subscription.
I guess I paid good money for no extra benefit.
Bummer eh
Marcus

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am not certain about this but ….
>> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
>> copying it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>>> stick to take somewhere?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: Music

[Marcus Harris]

Hi Pete,
Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard money for it vs 
renting through Apple Music?
Cheers 

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> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am not certain about this but ….
>> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
>> copying it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>>> stick to take somewhere?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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Re: Music

[Ronni Brown]

Yes Peter and Stephen you are correct.
“If you buy a digital music track or album from the iTunes store or one of its 
competitors, you don't own it. Instead, you're buying a license to play that 
track or album, and that license comes with an extremely limited set of rights.”

https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html

Kind Regards,
Ronni

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> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am not certain about this but ….
>> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
>> copying it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>>> stick to take somewhere?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
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[Peter Crisp]

Yes, that is a bummer. If you're a subscriber, you've paid for access
to the entire Apple Music database - it must be enormous! There is no
need to BUY anything, in fact I thought being a subscriber, you can't
actually BUY anything in the Music store - the log in should be
recognised and not effectively double charge.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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 Having read this, I now see that what I bought from iTunes has no
extra benefit to an Apple Music Subscription.I guess I paid good money
for no extra benefit.Bummer ehMarcus

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually
only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a
CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
Kind regards
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Stephen, when you buy some content (Music) on your iMac, this in
turn adds it to your iTunes library. If you have the "iCloud Music
Library" button ON (green) (on the iPhone Settings>Music>iCloud Music
Library), then there is no need to connect the phone to the Mac and
synch, you can just open the Music app on the iphone and it will take
a moment and then just synch over the air (within your WiFi or 4G)
your entire library. This doesn't mean the content is downloaded onto
the iPhone, it just means your library metadata is visible for you to
then play it form the phone. It will play via streaming using Wifi or
4G unless you specifically select the Download symbol for that
song/albums that you BUY. Conversely, you can BUY it using the phone
and it then synchs back to the Mac iTunes library.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:14:04 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Certainly some things have changed in the Apple music world.
I occasionally buy a few songs from Apple Music.I do this using my
iMac.Then I plug my iPhone 6S (and also my wife’s iPhone SE) into my
iMac and Sync.
But lately, when I Sync iPhones with iMac Music, not all songs
transfer to the iPhones.There seems to be some kind of
“disconnect” between them regarding Music.
Can anyone explain this please ?

On 29 Jun 2020, at 9:29 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi
95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not
looking to avoid buying music, or giving it to others so they can
avoid buying it. It’s just the simplicity I had before with iTunes
seems to me to have been removed. I have found solutions to my current
situation, just find the constant changes to shore up their profits
annoying. When I purchased most of my music the costs were excessive
due to their protections, it looks like they are moving towards that
again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a
replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
Kind regards
Peter 

On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album,
if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play
that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device
to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained to
your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 

It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:

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Sent:
Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
Subject:
Re: Music

Hi Pete,
Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard money for
it vs renting through Apple Music?
Cheers 

Marcus 
Marcus Harris
Mobile +61417965618

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 

I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards

Pete

On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.

I am not certain about this but ….
I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions
about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:

Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Right, agreed Peter, music that you own the content and have imported
into iTunes doesn't have the DRM applied and so I believe you should
be able to make further CD's of that owned content or export to a USB
if you choose.
I have put this to the test just now. A CD (that I bought myself) I
imported years ago in my library, I am able to copy out to a USB no
problem, I can then play it using QuickTime player (to distance from
my iTunes to which I am a Music subscriber) - it plays no problem.
Conversely, a song I exported to the same USB (grabbed from my iTunes
library and an Apply Copyrighted song) the file exported ok, but the
DRM prevents it from being played using QuickTime player, but it will
play off the USB from the iTunes app as my subscription permits this
to be played as I have the 'licence' to play it.
I too have ~300GB of owned music but I just don't need to buy anything
now as I have paid with my subscription - but it obliges me to
maintain this subscription for life (which is what Apple wants) to
continue to have this extra material available or if I cancel my
subscription, I revert to my 300GB owned library. 

Kind Regards

Pete

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 09:29:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Hi
 95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not
looking to avoid buying music, or giving it to others so they can
avoid buying it. It’s just the simplicity I had before with iTunes
seems to me to have been removed. I have found solutions to my current
situation, just find the constant changes to shore up their profits
annoying. When I purchased most of my music the costs were excessive
due to their protections, it looks like they are moving towards that
again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a
replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
 Kind regards
 Peter 

 > On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or
album, if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to
play that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your
device to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained
to your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 
 > 
 > It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Kind Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Peter Crisp
 > 
 > 
 > - Original Message -
 > From:
 > wamug@wamug.org.au
 > 
 > To:
 > 
 > Cc:
 > 
 > Sent:
 > Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
 > Subject:
 > Re: Music
 > 
 > 
 > Hi Pete,
 > Is that correct if you buy music using iTunes, ie pay hard money
for it vs renting through Apple Music?
 > Cheers 
 > 
 > Marcus 
 > Marcus Harris
 > Mobile +61417965618
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
 > 
 > Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
 > 
 > I'm sure it's in the fine print.
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Pete
 > 
 > On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Peter.
 > 
 > I am not certain about this but ….
 > I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions
about copying it.
 > 
 > 
 > On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi all
 > Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a
bit behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to
put a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
 > Kind regards
 > Peter
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Re: Music

[Stephen Chape]

Certainly some things have changed in the Apple music world.

I occasionally buy a few songs from Apple Music.
I do this using my iMac.
Then I plug my iPhone 6S (and also my wife’s iPhone SE) into my iMac and Sync.

But lately, when I Sync iPhones with iMac Music, not all songs transfer to the 
iPhones.
There seems to be some kind of “disconnect” between them regarding Music.

Can anyone explain this please ?

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 9:29 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not looking to avoid 
> buying music, or giving it to others so they can avoid buying it. It’s just 
> the simplicity I had before with iTunes seems to me to have been removed. I 
> have found solutions to my current situation, just find the constant changes 
> to shore up their profits annoying. When I purchased most of my music the 
> costs were excessive due to their protections, it looks like they are moving 
> towards that again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a 
> replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
> Kind regards
> Peter 
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album, if 
>> you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play that song on 
>> your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device to play where you 
>> don't have 4G service - but still constrained to your Apple devices. If you 
>> ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't have to pay or press Buy on 
>> anything more for anything in the entire Music database which Apple manages 
>> because your subscription fee covers ALL music purchases. This does not 
>> include movies, it is just music. 
>> 
>> It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you buy the 
>> licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if you pay to 
>> own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on YOUR Apple 
>> devices too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: Music
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard money for it vs 
>> renting through Apple Music?
>> Cheers 
>> 
>> Marcus 
>> Marcus Harris
>> Mobile +61417965618
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
>> 
>> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
>> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
>> copy off to any other storage means. 
>> 
>> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am not certain about this but ….
>> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
>> copying it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>> stick to take somewhere?
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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Re: Music

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not looking to avoid 
buying music, or giving it to others so they can avoid buying it. It’s just the 
simplicity I had before with iTunes seems to me to have been removed. I have 
found solutions to my current situation, just find the constant changes to 
shore up their profits annoying. When I purchased most of my music the costs 
were excessive due to their protections, it looks like they are moving towards 
that again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a 
replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
Kind regards
Peter 

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album, if 
> you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play that song on 
> your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device to play where you 
> don't have 4G service - but still constrained to your Apple devices. If you 
> ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't have to pay or press Buy on anything 
> more for anything in the entire Music database which Apple manages because 
> your subscription fee covers ALL music purchases. This does not include 
> movies, it is just music. 
> 
> It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you buy the 
> licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if you pay to own 
> the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on YOUR Apple devices 
> too.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: Music
> 
> 
> Hi Pete,
> Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard money for it vs 
> renting through Apple Music?
> Cheers 
> 
> Marcus 
> Marcus Harris
> Mobile +61417965618
> 
>  
> 
> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
> copy off to any other storage means. 
> 
> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> 
> I am not certain about this but ….
> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
> copying it.
> 
> 
> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
> stick to take somewhere?
> Kind regards
> Peter
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Re: Music

[Juliet Kitson]

Tried to install but blocked from installing by apple
Regards Bill
I will get in touch with the supplier and ask mp3 files.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:41 AM Peter Hinchliffe 
wrote:

>
>
> > On 29 Jun 2020, at 7:48 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> >
> > Hell All
> > While on the subject of music I just purchased a download of an album
> from Ireland but it came as a zip when unzipped it came as wma files is
> there a way to convert to MP3 so I can play it in  Itunes. Regards Bill
>
> Try All2MP3 (https://all2mp3.en.softonic.com/mac). Despite the user
> reviews I’ve had very good results with this for many years. You could also
> try Music Converter from the same site (
> https://music-converter-mac.en.softonic.com/mac), which seems to have
> more positive comments.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
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Re: Music

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> On 29 Jun 2020, at 7:48 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> Hell All
> While on the subject of music I just purchased a download of an album from 
> Ireland but it came as a zip when unzipped it came as wma files is there a 
> way to convert to MP3 so I can play it in  Itunes. Regards Bill

Try All2MP3 (https://all2mp3.en.softonic.com/mac). Despite the user reviews 
I’ve had very good results with this for many years. You could also try Music 
Converter from the same site (https://music-converter-mac.en.softonic.com/mac), 
which seems to have more positive comments.



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Re: Music

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Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album,
if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play
that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device
to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained to
your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 
It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Music

 Hi Pete,Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard
money for it vs renting through Apple Music?Cheers 

Marcus Marcus HarrisMobile +61417965618

 
On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

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Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
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[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Ronni, it will be more fun to read these terms and conditions
than watch the AFL right now! 
Many people eschew the use of the Apple ecosystem for this and many
other reasons. I am quite ok with it and have a Family Music
subscription which almost all my family utilise heavily and daily. It
has changed our way of living with music from the 80's when CD's and
cassettes were widely used to play in cars etc. Even now in the
Android environment you're obliged to subscribe to Spotify (I think,
unless you want the order set by Spotify and adverts) or other
streaming services but maybe there are still ways to play anything you
like for free. It is all about supporting the artists that put their
effort into producing it. Fair enough I reckon.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:09:06 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Yes Peter and Stephen you are correct.“If you BUY a
digital MUSIC track or album from the ITUNES store or one of its
competitors, you don't OWN it. Instead, you're BUYING a license to
play that track or album, and that license comes with an extremely
limited set of rights.”

https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html [1]

Kind Regards,

Ronni

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On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
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Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

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[Pete]

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
copy off to any other storage means. 

I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards

Pete

> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> 
> I am not certain about this but ….
> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
> copying it.
> 
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>> stick to take somewhere?
>> Kind regards
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Hi Peter.

I am not certain about this but ….
I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
copying it.


> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
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[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Ronni.
I have carried out those instructions and all seems well now.
PS: Is it just me getting older or is Apple making things less intuitive as 
time passes ?
Even my Step son in Dubai has told me that sometimes he feels like he is back 
using Windows in the bad old days !


> On 31 May 2016, at 9:42 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> On 26 May 2016, at 3:50 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Now I have an issue with Music on my wife’s iPhone 5.
>> To begin with her file selections were the same as for my iPhone 6s.
>> However yesterday she decided she wanted to add some artists and delete some 
>> artists.
>> So we plugged her iPhone into the Mac and made the selection changes.
>> 
>> When her phone was then synced with the Mac, the additional artists were 
>> added to her Music.
>> But the artists we deleted remained in Music on her phone.
>> I had to go through them on her phone deleting each individual one.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated please so I can stop a repeat of this 
>> ?
> 
> 1.  In iTunes on your computer, go to the iPhone Music tab and uncheck "Sync 
> Music".  
> 2. Then do your sync.  
> 3. If there are any remaining songs on the iPhone after the sync, delete 
> them.  
> 4. Then recheck "Sync Music" and sync again, which will force all the music 
> that is checked to be reloaded onto the iPhone.
> —— 
> Does your wife have her iPhone sync set as below?
> 1. Select the iPhone, click Music in the sidebar, and then select the “Sync 
> Music” checkbox, you can then select a radio button to sync your “Entire 
> music library” or “Selected playlists, artists, albums, and genres”
> Select “Selected playlists, artists, albums, and genes"
> 
> 2. Check the playlists or artists you want to sync.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
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Hi Stephen,

> On 26 May 2016, at 3:50 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Now I have an issue with Music on my wife’s iPhone 5.
> To begin with her file selections were the same as for my iPhone 6s.
> However yesterday she decided she wanted to add some artists and delete some 
> artists.
> So we plugged her iPhone into the Mac and made the selection changes.
> 
> When her phone was then synced with the Mac, the additional artists were 
> added to her Music.
> But the artists we deleted remained in Music on her phone.
> I had to go through them on her phone deleting each individual one.
> 
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated please so I can stop a repeat of this ?

1.  In iTunes on your computer, go to the iPhone Music tab and uncheck "Sync 
Music".  
2. Then do your sync.  
3. If there are any remaining songs on the iPhone after the sync, delete them.  
4. Then recheck "Sync Music" and sync again, which will force all the music 
that is checked to be reloaded onto the iPhone.
—— 
Does your wife have her iPhone sync set as below?
1. Select the iPhone, click Music in the sidebar, and then select the “Sync 
Music” checkbox, you can then select a radio button to sync your “Entire music 
library” or “Selected playlists, artists, albums, and genres”
Select “Selected playlists, artists, albums, and genes"

2. Check the playlists or artists you want to sync.

Cheers,
Ronni

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[Stephen Chape]

Hi Ronni,
Sorry this took so long.

It turned out that once I unchecked “only sync checked files” in the iPhone 
screen in iTunes on the Mac everything was fine.
I had not realised that in iTunes on the Mac some files were checked and others 
not checked.
To sync music I check the individual artists I want in the iPhone info screen 
in iTunes on the Mac, so only the selected files will sync.
So that works fine now.

Now I have an issue with Music on my wife’s iPhone 5.
To begin with her file selections were the same as for my iPhone 6s.
However yesterday she decided she wanted to add some artists and delete some 
artists.
So we plugged her iPhone into the Mac and made the selection changes.

When her phone was then synced with the Mac, the additional artists were added 
to her Music.
But the artists we deleted remained in Music on her phone.
I had to go through them on her phone deleting each individual one.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated please so I can stop a repeat of this ?


> On 18 May 2016, at 3:44 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 18 May 2016, at 1:26 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry folks,
>> I forgot to mention that I sync my iPhone with my iMac via USB (for music 
>> and videos).
>> Also I have since discovered that I had not “checked” some of those files in 
>> iTunes.
>> I had previously chosen to only sync “checked” files.
>> 
>> However some files still do not sync, even though I have chosen to sync 
>> those artists.
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Stephen Chape >
>>> Subject: Music on iPhone
>>> Date: 17 May 2016 at 6:07:29 PM AWST
>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List >
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I have been wondering why some of my music does not appear on my iPhone 
>>> when I sync with my iMac ?
>>> Just realised that only Purchased AAC Audio Files will sync.
>>> 
>>> Files such as AAC Audio and MPEG Audio do NOT sync.
>>> Some of these (I don’t know which) I have imported to iTunes from my CD’s.
>>> 
>>> Does this mean that music I have purchased on CD’s and then imported to 
>>> iTunes I can never play on my iPhone ?
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> What format & compression are the music tracks that you are unable to sync?
> Are they AAC or MP3 or ?
> Do you have enough space on your iPhone to hold all the music you have 
> selected to sync?
> 
> If you ripped your CDs as WAV, AIFF, or Apple Lossless files, which take up a 
> lot of space, you may want to change to AAC or MP3 files.
> 
> Double check if the songs on your iTunes library have same folder location as 
> before. 
> Sometimes iTunes does not indicate which songs it cannot find until you 
> select them. 
> Songs in your library that iTunes can't locate, won't be synced to your 
> iPhone.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
> 
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[Stephen Chape]

Thank you for that input Ronni.
I will have to do another check through my music files.
Have not had a good look since I checked the unchecked files.


> On 18 May 2016, at 3:44 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 18 May 2016, at 1:26 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry folks,
>> I forgot to mention that I sync my iPhone with my iMac via USB (for music 
>> and videos).
>> Also I have since discovered that I had not “checked” some of those files in 
>> iTunes.
>> I had previously chosen to only sync “checked” files.
>> 
>> However some files still do not sync, even though I have chosen to sync 
>> those artists.
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Stephen Chape >
>>> Subject: Music on iPhone
>>> Date: 17 May 2016 at 6:07:29 PM AWST
>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List >
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I have been wondering why some of my music does not appear on my iPhone 
>>> when I sync with my iMac ?
>>> Just realised that only Purchased AAC Audio Files will sync.
>>> 
>>> Files such as AAC Audio and MPEG Audio do NOT sync.
>>> Some of these (I don’t know which) I have imported to iTunes from my CD’s.
>>> 
>>> Does this mean that music I have purchased on CD’s and then imported to 
>>> iTunes I can never play on my iPhone ?
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> What format & compression are the music tracks that you are unable to sync?
> Are they AAC or MP3 or ?
> Do you have enough space on your iPhone to hold all the music you have 
> selected to sync?
> 
> If you ripped your CDs as WAV, AIFF, or Apple Lossless files, which take up a 
> lot of space, you may want to change to AAC or MP3 files.
> 
> Double check if the songs on your iTunes library have same folder location as 
> before. 
> Sometimes iTunes does not indicate which songs it cannot find until you 
> select them. 
> Songs in your library that iTunes can't locate, won't be synced to your 
> iPhone.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
> 
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> On 18 May 2016, at 1:26 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Sorry folks,
> I forgot to mention that I sync my iPhone with my iMac via USB (for music and 
> videos).
> Also I have since discovered that I had not “checked” some of those files in 
> iTunes.
> I had previously chosen to only sync “checked” files.
> 
> However some files still do not sync, even though I have chosen to sync those 
> artists.
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Stephen Chape >
>> Subject: Music on iPhone
>> Date: 17 May 2016 at 6:07:29 PM AWST
>> To: WAMUG Mailing List >
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I have been wondering why some of my music does not appear on my iPhone when 
>> I sync with my iMac ?
>> Just realised that only Purchased AAC Audio Files will sync.
>> 
>> Files such as AAC Audio and MPEG Audio do NOT sync.
>> Some of these (I don’t know which) I have imported to iTunes from my CD’s.
>> 
>> Does this mean that music I have purchased on CD’s and then imported to 
>> iTunes I can never play on my iPhone ?

Hi Stephen,

What format & compression are the music tracks that you are unable to sync?
Are they AAC or MP3 or ?
Do you have enough space on your iPhone to hold all the music you have selected 
to sync?

If you ripped your CDs as WAV, AIFF, or Apple Lossless files, which take up a 
lot of space, you may want to change to AAC or MP3 files.

Double check if the songs on your iTunes library have same folder location as 
before. 
Sometimes iTunes does not indicate which songs it cannot find until you select 
them. 
Songs in your library that iTunes can't locate, won't be synced to your iPhone.

Cheers,
Ronni

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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

On your iMac Air - Do you have 'Home Sharing' & 'Share my library on my local 
network' & 'Home Sharing computers and devices update play counts' selected in 
iTunes  Preferences > Sharing?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 18 Jan 2016, at 6:17 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> This iPhone and our iPad access the music library in iTunes on my iMac.   I 
> am not quite sure how it happens but they all share the same Apple ID.   My 
> newly installed iMac Air is the same but no music.  
> What am I missing?!!
> Severin Crisp
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Problem sorted, thanks for help
Severin

> On 18 Jan 2016, at 6:57 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> On your iMac Air - Do you have 'Home Sharing' & 'Share my library on my local 
> network' & 'Home Sharing computers and devices update play counts' selected 
> in iTunes  Preferences > Sharing?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 6:17 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> This iPhone and our iPad access the music library in iTunes on my iMac.   I 
>> am not quite sure how it happens but they all share the same Apple ID.   My 
>> newly installed iMac Air is the same but no music.  
>> What am I missing?!!
>> Severin Crisp
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Re: Music CD catalog app

[Stuart Breden]

Looking at he web page CDpedia is just for iPhone.

Is there a similar programme for the iMac?

Stuart Breden
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Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599
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Re: Music CD catalog app

[Roger Kortas]

Hi Stuart

I am not sure where you are looking but:

Operating System Requirements:
This product is designed to run on the following operating systems:

• Mac OS X 10.5 Intel
• Mac OS X 10.5 PPC
• Mac OS X 10.4 Intel
• Mac OS X 10.4 PPC

best regards

roger

On 15/03/2009, at 8:35 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:


Looking at he web page CDpedia is just for iPhone.

Is there a similar programme for the iMac?

Stuart Breden
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Re: Music CD catalog app - delicious library

[Wendy S. Austin]

Gary

I use BookPedia to keep track of my books.   They also have a  
programme for CDs, DVDs and Games.   Website - http://www.bruji.com/


Wendy


On 12/03/2009, at 9:58 AM, gary dorn wrote:

I am looking for a simple app to catalog my music CDs. I do not  
play any music on my iMac [24 in/3.06/10.5.6/4gb] as my computer is  
located in my study where I have a superb stereo music setup so I  
only play CDs on that. But I do want to be able to make a catalog  
of all my CDs [so far only about 150] and load all my CDs in an app  
which will show CD name, each song title, singer, etc. And enable  
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Re: Music CD catalog app

[Peter Sealy]

Thanks for the responses.




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Hi peter

have a look at cdpedia I use DVDpedia and its great.

Roger


CDpedia is a CD manager software for Mac OS X. Its familiar iTunes style
interface makes it easy to use. It integrates with iTunes so that you may know
what CDs in your collection you have imported. You also have access to all the
Amazon sites as well as other international music sites to retrieve information
for your database.



On Wed Mar 11 16:45 , Peter Sealy carp...@internode.on.net sent:

I am looking for a simple app to catalog my music CDs. I do not play  
any music on my iMac [24 in/3.06/10.5.6/4gb] as my computer is located  
in my study where I have a superb stereo music setup so I only play  
CDs on that. But I do want to be able to make a catalog of all my CDs  
[so far only about 150] and load all my CDs in an app which will show  
CD name, each song title, singer, etc. And enable me to search on song  
title, artist name, CD name. etc.

I don't want to load the songs into iTunes as that's a waste of space.  
I thought I would just be able to import the CD into iTunes and save  
the CD title, contents, etc in iTunes and then eject the CD/delete the  
songs but apparently I can't. Is that possible?

Any bright ideas out there pse. I have looked at a number of shareware  
apps on Version Tracker but I have no real opinion on their quality.

Thanks


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Re: Music CD catalog app - delicious library

[gary dorn]

I am looking for a simple app to catalog my music CDs. I do not play 
any music on my iMac [24 in/3.06/10.5.6/4gb] as my computer is 
located in my study where I have a superb stereo music setup so I 
only play CDs on that. But I do want to be able to make a catalog of 
all my CDs [so far only about 150] and load all my CDs in an app 
which will show CD name, each song title, singer, etc. And enable me 
to search on song title, artist name, CD name. etc.


I don't want to load the songs into iTunes as that's a waste of 
space. I thought I would just be able to import the CD into iTunes 
and save the CD title, contents, etc in iTunes and then eject the 
CD/delete the songs but apparently I can't. Is that possible?


Any bright ideas out there pse. I have looked at a number of 
shareware apps on Version Tracker but I have no real opinion on 
their quality.


Thanks



Delicious library http://www.delicious-monster.com/
catalogues books, CDs, DVDs,  video games, toys, gadgets
database search engine is linked to Amazon.com

uses address book if you lend items to people it keeps a record
it does lots of things

I think they have a free trial period.
they email reply to help, feedback and suggestions.

I find it worth every penny

good luck


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Re: Music files

[Rob Davies]

Morning,

On 21/11/2005, at 11:42 PM, Peter Bull wrote:


Hi,
I am showing a few TAFE people how to add sound and music to  
Powerpoint and I would like to know what software is needed to  
convert music files from a CD to MP3, .wav, .midi etc formats which  
can be inserted into Powerpoint presentations.


iTunes usually reliable,  quality a question mark...

Quicktime is my preferred method as I can output as AAC (mp4) and  
save as .mov and powerpoint usually accepts.


An audio editor is very handy tool to use and acclimatise one self  
with. Audacity is free and very good with lots of options or just  
edit within QT pro if have.


Experiment and play you will be surprised what can be achieved.

Oh, one last thing large audio files will not be embedded within  
powerpoint presentation a link to your file will be created so make  
sure all files are in the same folder when outputting and saving file  
elsewhere.


Cheers!
`Rob...

Re: Music files

[Nicholas Pyers]

On 22/11/2005, at 2:42 AM, Peter Bull wrote:

Hi,
I am showing a few TAFE people how to add sound and music to  
Powerpoint and I would like to know what software is needed to  
convert music files from a CD to MP3, .wav, .midi etc formats which  
can be inserted into Powerpoint presentations.


Not being a music expert it's a scary new world to me.


iTunes will convert to .mp3 files fine and Powerpoint will handle  
them OK


or if you want have the best sound or avoid conversion, but end up  
with really huge files, you can just grab the raw aiff files directly  
from the CD


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Re: Music Store

[Matthew Healey]

'Cause that's 9:45 Sydney Time.

- Matt

On 25/10/2005, at 7:27 AM, Stuart Evans wrote:

So it finally arrived today and we catch up (somewhat) to the rest  
of the world. Why 6.45am? That's Apple.


Stuart
Stuart Evans
T4 Technology
0428 184 818

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Re: Music Store

[Rod]

Daylight saving isn't on yet.  They were an hour early for some reason.

Seeya

Rod!


On 25/10/2005, at 7:44 AM, Matthew Healey wrote:


'Cause that's 9:45 Sydney Time.

- Matt

On 25/10/2005, at 7:27 AM, Stuart Evans wrote:

So it finally arrived today and we catch up (somewhat) to the rest of 
the world. Why 6.45am? That's Apple.


Stuart
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Re: Music Event From Apple

[Ryan Schotte]

On 2003-10-17 at 01:40(GMT+0800) Daniel Kerr at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailed off into the ether: 

 Hi All,..
 
 An interesting run down of the Apple Music Event,...from MacNN
 
 http://www4.macnn.com/macnn/musicevent/

Worth noting that it seems to be live at the moment, so just leave the
window open, it will update every minute or so. If you're awake at this
hour of course...

Steve's basically added everything I wanted to the store, except there's
been no mention of Australia (yet).

Which would be nice.

Ry

Re: Music Event From Apple

[Matthew Healey]

On 17/10/2003, at 2:15 AM, Ryan Schotte wrote:


On 2003-10-17 at 01:40(GMT+0800) Daniel Kerr at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailed off into the ether:


Hi All,..

An interesting run down of the Apple Music Event,...from MacNN

http://www4.macnn.com/macnn/musicevent/


Worth noting that it seems to be live at the moment, so just leave the
window open, it will update every minute or so. If you're awake at this
hour of course...


All the updates are on the Mirror server.

http://mirrors.wamug.org.au/apple

- Matt

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Re: Music Software (any fool can Google!)(but not ad infinitum!)

[logrythm]

Ryan Jay Schotte wrote:


On 2003-07-17 02:56, J Philippe Chaperon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




The reason she wants a PC is to use a music application called Fruityloops,
which I believe is now called FLstudio. Unfortunately I do not understand
music but a search on the web indicated that FLstudio is a 'virtual studio',
a 'sequencer' with advanced MIDI support. From the web I found that FLstudio
does not have a Mac version, either OS Classic or OS X.

Can someone please tell me if there is a corresponding application for the
Mac OS X, and where can it be purchased from? Any experience with the
software?

My relative went to the Mt Hawthorn shop today, but was not able to get an
answer, and I believe that this will decide whether she will buy a PC or the
eMac. 





Here's some stuff I dug up on 'sequencers' for OS X, mostly using the
brilliant Mac Products Guide http://guide.apple.com/ and prices from the
Apple Store US and other places via Google. I have no idea if any of these
are appropriate, but ask your relative if any are suitable:

Arturia's Storm Music Studio US$100
http://www.arturia.com/

Emagic's Logic Platinum US$699
http://www.emagic.de/

Mark of the Unicorn's Digital Performer US$795 (US$395 compet. upgrade)
http://www.motu.com/

Digidesign's Pro Tools Free but possibly restricted features
http://www.digidesign.com/

BitHeadz's Phrazer LE US$100
http://www.bitheadz.com/

Ableton's Live US$250
http://www.ableton.com/

M-Audio's Reason US$380
http://www.midiman.com/

Five12's Numerology US$50
http://www.five12.com/

Steinberg's Cubase SL US$349
http://www.steinberg.net

Quadmation's PlayerPRO US$70
http://www.quadmation.com/

And for comparison...

FLStudio US$150
http://www.fruityloops.com/

Obviously there's a massive range in prices here, assuming I'm on track, but
it's at least a place to get you started. And me as well -- I've been
interested in this for a little while...

-Ry


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Hi All

I love audio software, its the reason I first turned on a computer four 
years ago.
Its true that *Macs are better than PCs for Music Production* or was 
that the cliche; *Macs are better than PCs for Graphics Production*, by 
the way is there many jobs tougher than those for a computer?


The problem is, I too cannot find anything *just like* Fruity Loops for 
the Mac, for easily and *quickly* creating drum/sample loops.

This issue has me now tinkering with of all things: Virtual PC (eew!).

Its not like I dont have plenty of great Mac software.
For what I use FL for however, the closest mac-match is Protools or 
Reason, which are both a bit hard on the old Grey-Matter to be called easy.

I use them too but usually after I begin something in FL.

Anyone fancy writing me an FL clone?
You'll get my first-born and probably the first-born of subsequent 
switchers.


My two bars worth.
Paul

PS Would anyone like to suggest what the *cheapest* , not the best way 
to get a second analog sound output into my BW G3.


TIA.

Re: Music Software (any fool can Google!)

[casper]

Prior to OS 10 if my memory serves me right,Quebase was the premier MiDi 
and sequencer on the Mac and I believe for the music world. I have used 
Quebase light and Yamaha's Hello Music to play around with MiDi. However 
quite a bit of water has gone under the bridge since I've had anything 
to do with it

John

Ryan Jay Schotte wrote:

On 2003-07-17 02:56, J Philippe Chaperon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

The reason she wants a PC is to use a music application called Fruityloops,
which I believe is now called FLstudio. Unfortunately I do not understand
music but a search on the web indicated that FLstudio is a 'virtual studio',
a 'sequencer' with advanced MIDI support. From the web I found that FLstudio
does not have a Mac version, either OS Classic or OS X.

Can someone please tell me if there is a corresponding application for the
Mac OS X, and where can it be purchased from? Any experience with the
software?

My relative went to the Mt Hawthorn shop today, but was not able to get an
answer, and I believe that this will decide whether she will buy a PC or the
eMac. 
 


Here's some stuff I dug up on 'sequencers' for OS X, mostly using the
brilliant Mac Products Guide http://guide.apple.com/ and prices from the
Apple Store US and other places via Google. I have no idea if any of these
are appropriate, but ask your relative if any are suitable:

Arturia's Storm Music Studio US$100
http://www.arturia.com/

Emagic's Logic Platinum US$699
http://www.emagic.de/

Mark of the Unicorn's Digital Performer US$795 (US$395 compet. upgrade)
http://www.motu.com/

Digidesign's Pro Tools Free but possibly restricted features
http://www.digidesign.com/

BitHeadz's Phrazer LE US$100
http://www.bitheadz.com/

Ableton's Live US$250
http://www.ableton.com/

M-Audio's Reason US$380
http://www.midiman.com/

Five12's Numerology US$50
http://www.five12.com/

Steinberg's Cubase SL US$349
http://www.steinberg.net

Quadmation's PlayerPRO US$70
http://www.quadmation.com/

And for comparison...

FLStudio US$150
http://www.fruityloops.com/

Obviously there's a massive range in prices here, assuming I'm on track, but
it's at least a place to get you started. And me as well -- I've been
interested in this for a little while...

-Ry


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Re: Music Software (any fool can Google!)

[J Philippe Chaperon]

on 16/07/2003 2:44 PM, Ryan Jay Schotte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Here's some stuff I dug up on 'sequencers' for OS X, mostly using the
 brilliant Mac Products Guide http://guide.apple.com/ and prices from the
 Apple Store US and other places via Google. I have no idea if any of these
 are appropriate, but ask your relative if any are suitable:
 

Hi WAMUGers,

Many thanks to those who have provided me with information regarding
sequencers and MIDI apps. I have passed the information on. It is quite
possible that the Apple application as mentioned by Anne will do the trick!


Regards,

Philippe C

Re: Music Software (any fool can Google!)

[Ryan Jay Schotte]

On 2003-07-17 02:56, J Philippe Chaperon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The reason she wants a PC is to use a music application called Fruityloops,
 which I believe is now called FLstudio. Unfortunately I do not understand
 music but a search on the web indicated that FLstudio is a 'virtual studio',
 a 'sequencer' with advanced MIDI support. From the web I found that FLstudio
 does not have a Mac version, either OS Classic or OS X.
 
 Can someone please tell me if there is a corresponding application for the
 Mac OS X, and where can it be purchased from? Any experience with the
 software?
 
 My relative went to the Mt Hawthorn shop today, but was not able to get an
 answer, and I believe that this will decide whether she will buy a PC or the
 eMac. 

Here's some stuff I dug up on 'sequencers' for OS X, mostly using the
brilliant Mac Products Guide http://guide.apple.com/ and prices from the
Apple Store US and other places via Google. I have no idea if any of these
are appropriate, but ask your relative if any are suitable:

Arturia's Storm Music Studio US$100
http://www.arturia.com/

Emagic's Logic Platinum US$699
http://www.emagic.de/

Mark of the Unicorn's Digital Performer US$795 (US$395 compet. upgrade)
http://www.motu.com/

Digidesign's Pro Tools Free but possibly restricted features
http://www.digidesign.com/

BitHeadz's Phrazer LE US$100
http://www.bitheadz.com/

Ableton's Live US$250
http://www.ableton.com/

M-Audio's Reason US$380
http://www.midiman.com/

Five12's Numerology US$50
http://www.five12.com/

Steinberg's Cubase SL US$349
http://www.steinberg.net

Quadmation's PlayerPRO US$70
http://www.quadmation.com/

And for comparison...

FLStudio US$150
http://www.fruityloops.com/

Obviously there's a massive range in prices here, assuming I'm on track, but
it's at least a place to get you started. And me as well -- I've been
interested in this for a little while...

-Ry

Re: Re: Music/sound editing software for OS9.1?

[Kevin Phyland]

Hi Brian et al,

The best one I've used is Audion (2.6.1) - shareware. It does great wave 
editing from MP3s even! I've used to to make sound samples and loops...

Cheers,

Kevin from Wycheproof.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Hosking[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wamug[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed Jan 22 17:58:26 PST 2003
Subject: Re: Music/sound editing software for OS9.1?

hi Brian...
freeware: tiny wave editor by yamaha, intended for use as an editor for
yamaha samplers  synths, is a neat little editing package with a
refreshingly logical interface:

http://www.yamahasynth.com/down/a3000/s_twe.htm

otherwise:
http://www.versiontracker.com/mp/new_search.m?s=2s=2productDB=macmode=Qu
ickOS_Filter=MacOSsearch=audio%20editcurrentPage=1firstPage=1

greg


 Hi,
 Can someone suggest an application that can display music/sound in a wave
 form that can be cut  pasted and will run on OS9.1  preferably
 free/shareware?
 
 Thanks
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Re: Music/sound editing software for OS9.1?

[Greg Hosking]

hi Brian...
freeware: tiny wave editor by yamaha, intended for use as an editor for
yamaha samplers  synths, is a neat little editing package with a
refreshingly logical interface:

http://www.yamahasynth.com/down/a3000/s_twe.htm

otherwise:
http://www.versiontracker.com/mp/new_search.m?s=2s=2productDB=macmode=Qu
ickOS_Filter=MacOSsearch=audio%20editcurrentPage=1firstPage=1

greg


 Hi,
 Can someone suggest an application that can display music/sound in a wave
 form that can be cut  pasted and will run on OS9.1  preferably
 free/shareware?
 
 Thanks
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Re: music CD's in macs

[Dark Servant]

I wonder. Would it be able to crash the stable environment of OS X or 
would it only be able to target OS 9?


Ruben A. Franke


I don't know from first hand experience, but I am told that it
doesn't only affect the Mac. and you can bypass it by applying a
black marker pen to the outer perimeter of the CD.


Is the following article correct in saying that the Sony anti-piracy
methods [snip] only crashes Apple Macs, so that's hardly an angry mob
[snip]:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/06/15/1023864366683.html

It appears curious that Sony would only take measures against the Mac
platform when it's highly cited that the MS platform is more widely 
used.
Anyone have any follow up info on this (I frequently listen to CD's in 
my

iMac whilst surfing/programming/Quaking)?

Thanks

Richard

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Re: music CD's in macs

[Bob Howells]

The following also talks about damage from these type of CD's.

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-936527.html

Bob





Dark Servant wrote:
 
 I wonder. Would it be able to crash the stable environment of OS X or
 would it only be able to target OS 9?
 
 Ruben A. Franke
 
  I don't know from first hand experience, but I am told that it
  doesn't only affect the Mac. and you can bypass it by applying a
  black marker pen to the outer perimeter of the CD.
 
  Is the following article correct in saying that the Sony anti-piracy
  methods [snip] only crashes Apple Macs, so that's hardly an angry mob
  [snip]:
 
  http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/06/15/1023864366683.html
 
  It appears curious that Sony would only take measures against the Mac
  platform when it's highly cited that the MS platform is more widely
  used.
  Anyone have any follow up info on this (I frequently listen to CD's in
  my
  iMac whilst surfing/programming/Quaking)?
 
  Thanks
 
  Richard
 
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