Re: Word problem on iMac
Peter, Save the document as a Rich Text File (rtf). I know of no word- processor that can't read and interpret rtf files. Also, InDesign will happily place rtf files, often doing a better job than the same document saved as doc or docx file types. I regard it as rude to send other persons doc or docx files, as you are assuming that they have Microsoft Word or similar, with which to successfully open the document. Similarly, I rarely send emails in a form other than plain text. Many receivers now use iPhones and similar to check email, and formatted emails chew up their expensive data allocations at a rate of knots. On 27/01/2010, at 9:18 AM, Peter Bull wrote: Apple to the rescueagain!! Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input. I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well - everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted that the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive. But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word file complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a .doc Word document and everything is back the way it was. I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having bought a copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of notes for TAFE and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC only using Word 2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software ever inflicted on the human race. Thanks again... I can get back to work now. On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote: Regards, Ray Forma 50 Harvest Road, North Fremantle WA 6159, Australia Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem on iMac
Hi Peter, Generally whenever I want to create a document accessible to both Windows/Mac users (without tying them into having proprietary paid software) I just create the document in whatever software suits ME for the particular task and then just print it as a pdf (which is so easy in OSX). Everyone is used to downloading and reading pdfs which seem to be the de-facto default standard for downloadable documents and manuals. Just a thought. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 27/1/10 9:18 AM, Peter Bull at pb...@bbnet.com.au wrote: Apple to the rescueagain!! Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input. I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well - everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted that the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive. But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word file complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a .doc Word document and everything is back the way it was. I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having bought a copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of notes for TAFE and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC only using Word 2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software ever inflicted on the human race. Thanks again... I can get back to work now. On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote: I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Word problem on iMac
I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem on iMac
If you don't have a backup copy then redoing all of your tables will be the incentive to create backups in future. Make sure you do the following: 1 in the menus choose Word:Preferences:Save 2 Tick 'Always create backup copy' 3 Tick 'Save auto recovery every xx min and set the time to 5 minutes 4 Train yourself to type Command-s at frequent intervals while working on any M$ Word document. 5 At the end of each half-day save a copy of the document with the date and time as part of its name. Preferably save on some medium other than your normal hard disk, so that when your hard disk crashes or a head falls off you will only have to redo half a day's in the worst case. Hopefully the crash occurs very soon after you have saved, on another medium, your dated and timed copy. I have done the above routine ever since, in the 1980s, an acquaintance experienced a head failure on a hard disk (an external Apple Hard Disk with a capacity of all of 40MB) on which she lost most of a book she had been writing during the previous year on her Mac Plus. I was the one who finally gave her the bad news after she asked me to come and help; it wasn't a joyous occasion. On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote: I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem on iMac
Did you happen to not save this new bloated document once you'd realised what was happening??? If not, then Ray's solution stands me thinks. Did the book happen to be sent to you via email? If so, an original copy will still be attached to the email. Tim On 26/1/10 9:23 PM, Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au wrote: I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem on iMac
I agree with Ray's recommendations. Also, do a seach for files beginning with Word Work file. These are automatic backups which Word keeps, depending on your settings. They are often stored in the Microsoft User Data directory. You could also try opening the corrupted file with TextEdit, Pages, Open Office, etc. If you are successful, save it as RTF, then open the RTF in Word. Hope this helps. With books as large as yours, it can be helpful to keep each chapter as a separate document, and link it together using the Master Document feature, or just copy the chapters together again once you're just about ready to print. Good luck Rob Peter Bull wrote: I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Associate Professor Rob Phillips Educational Development Unit Room 4.42 Level 4 Library North Wing, Murdoch University r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Currently on sabbatical leave -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem on iMac
Apple to the rescueagain!! Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input. I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well - everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted that the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive. But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word file complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a .doc Word document and everything is back the way it was. I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having bought a copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of notes for TAFE and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC only using Word 2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software ever inflicted on the human race. Thanks again... I can get back to work now. On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote: I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under another and double spaced. Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course. And no, I don't have a backup copy. iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac. Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Peter Bull pb...@bbnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Word problem
Peter, Word will have used your current printer to paginate your document as you see it on screen. I'm not what technique you used to convert your Word document into a PDF, but my guess is that the conversion used a virtual printer with a subtly different page definition, forcing your document to repaginate during the conversion throwing some invisible items onto a new page resulting in your troublesome blank pages. My suggestion is that you go back into the Word document and turn on the display of invisible characters. Look through the document for trailing spaces and/or paragraph marks, particularly if these are just before a page break. If there are a few empty paragraphs before a page break, it will just look like empty space, but if they get bumped onto the top of a new page, the page break which follows will throw a blank page into your document. Delete this blank space and your problem may disappear! HTH, John __ John Winters Phone +61 8 9244 4564 Fax +61 8 9446 7709 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:47:29 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Word problem Hi, I have a problem with MS Word (now there's a surprise). I have written a training manual consisting of one section of 4 pages and the rest of the text which is 128 pages, giving 132 as the total. After a bit of editing the page count has increased to 134. I converted the Word document into a PDF and there are now two blank pages in the PDF file but they are not visible in the Word document. The PDF is used for printing so obviously I don't want two blanks in there. Any clues as to how I can get rid of the two invisible blanks? Thanks, -- Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Word problem
Hi, I have a problem with MS Word (now there's a surprise). I have written a training manual consisting of one section of 4 pages and the rest of the text which is 128 pages, giving 132 as the total. After a bit of editing the page count has increased to 134. I converted the Word document into a PDF and there are now two blank pages in the PDF file but they are not visible in the Word document. The PDF is used for printing so obviously I don't want two blanks in there. Any clues as to how I can get rid of the two invisible blanks? Thanks, -- Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Word problem
I received a Word document that had a number of inserted graphics. Some displayed normally, some appeared as a black rectangle. Investigation with the originator revealed, after an arduous battle!, that the offending graphics were in CMYK. As I had access to the original artworks I merely converted them to RGB in Photoshop and replaced them back into the Word document and all was well. The interesting bit is that the graphics all displayed correctly on the originating computer, a PC with XP, I drove over and saw it myself! I am unable to find what I need to do to make the CMYK versions display on my G5 OSX 10.4.9, Office 2004. Can someone please explain this to me? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Word problem
Hi Sev Option 1: Get the other person to send you the original graphics and use something like Graphic Converter to change them to another format. Option 2: Get the other person to convert the graphics to jpeg or TIFF, and re-insert them into Word. I don't think there's much you can do with the graphics embedded in word. Cheers Rob I received a Word document that had a number of inserted graphics. Some displayed normally, some appeared as a black rectangle. Investigation with the originator revealed, after an arduous battle!, that the offending graphics were in CMYK. As I had access to the original artworks I merely converted them to RGB in Photoshop and replaced them back into the Word document and all was well. The interesting bit is that the graphics all displayed correctly on the originating computer, a PC with XP, I drove over and saw it myself! I am unable to find what I need to do to make the CMYK versions display on my G5 OSX 10.4.9, Office 2004. Can someone please explain this to me? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Rob Phillips, BSc, PhD, Grad Dip Comp Sci, FHERDSA Manager, Open, Distance and e-Learning, Murdoch University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Carrick Exchange Senior Fellow Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Elluminate virtual office: https://sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?sid=2257password=M.084DF9A25BE70F1F59DF2F74168097 --- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Word problem
Hmmm I think Sev had already found ways to work around changing the embedded image. His point, I think, was that if a PC with XP can display the word files (with embedded CMYK) correctly, surely there should be a way to make his Mac do this also! - Perhaps some plug-in or add-on. Cos we'd hate to think that a PC/Windoze was better than a Mac at anything ;) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/4/07 11:50 AM, Rob Phillips at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sev Option 1: Get the other person to send you the original graphics and use something like Graphic Converter to change them to another format. Option 2: Get the other person to convert the graphics to jpeg or TIFF, and re-insert them into Word. I don't think there's much you can do with the graphics embedded in word. Cheers Rob I received a Word document that had a number of inserted graphics. Some displayed normally, some appeared as a black rectangle. Investigation with the originator revealed, after an arduous battle!, that the offending graphics were in CMYK. As I had access to the original artworks I merely converted them to RGB in Photoshop and replaced them back into the Word document and all was well. The interesting bit is that the graphics all displayed correctly on the originating computer, a PC with XP, I drove over and saw it myself! I am unable to find what I need to do to make the CMYK versions display on my G5 OSX 10.4.9, Office 2004. Can someone please explain this to me? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Word problem
I have a Word template problem. I am using Word2004 but I suspect the solution is true of all versions. I have a template for a letterheaded document with a logo and other details in the largish header and logos and other materials in the footer. It works fine for letters that are contained on a single page but for more than one page the header and footer are repeated on the second and succeeding pages. I would like just the footer to appear on the followon pages. If I insert a Section Break New Page on page one then I can remove the header and footer from succeeding pages in the template. However, when I come to use this template and type in above the section break to the end of page 1 the section break carries over to page 2 taking the header and footer with it. The only way to get in below the section break is to go to page 2 and then page 1, with its glorious header is at the top of a blank page. I can find no discussion of this in Word Help, though it tells you how to use section breaks to change format as you go down a document - fine and understood - but not for a template. The Microsoft site has a number of fancy downloadable templates, but all single page. The situation is slightly complicated by the fact that I want to pass this template to minions to use as well as myself so it needs to be foolproof! Wordsmiths to my rescue please! Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
Re: Word problem
Severin, From Word Help (search header and first page): Create a unique header or footer for the first page 1. If your document is divided into sections, click in a section or select multiple sections you want to change. 2. On the View menu, click Header and Footer. 3. On the Header and Footer toolbar, click Document Layout . 4. Click the Layout tab. 5. Select the Different first page check box, and then click OK. 6. If necessary, move to the First Page Header area or First Page Footer area in your document. 7. Create the header or footer for the first page of the document or section. If you don't want a header or footer on the first page, leave the header and footer areas blank8. Move to the header or footer for the rest of the document or section by clicking Show Next on the Header and Footer toolbar, and then create the header or footer you want. I have also done a letterhead for my group to use where I have placed a full page PDF document as a background picture on the first page. BTW to edit the template document, open it directly, rather than making a new document from the project gallery, then resave it as a document template. HTH, John From: Severin Crisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:09:20 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Word problem I have a Word template problem. I am using Word2004 but I suspect the solution is true of all versions. I have a template for a letterheaded document with a logo and other details in the largish header and logos and other materials in the footer. It works fine for letters that are contained on a single page but for more than one page the header and footer are repeated on the second and succeeding pages. I would like just the footer to appear on the followon pages. If I insert a Section Break New Page on page one then I can remove the header and footer from succeeding pages in the template. However, when I come to use this template and type in above the section break to the end of page 1 the section break carries over to page 2 taking the header and footer with it. The only way to get in below the section break is to go to page 2 and then page 1, with its glorious header is at the top of a blank page. I can find no discussion of this in Word Help, though it tells you how to use section breaks to change format as you go down a document - fine and understood - but not for a template. The Microsoft site has a number of fancy downloadable templates, but all single page. The situation is slightly complicated by the fact that I want to pass this template to minions to use as well as myself so it needs to be foolproof! Wordsmiths to my rescue please! Severin Crisp
Strange iMac/Word Problem
Hi all, As of yesterday, our receptionist's iMac (17inch, 768MB RAM, OSX 10.3.2) started behaving weirdly. When she saves word files they are invisible (even when you search for invisible files). However, you can see them with the add attachments button in Entourage, and if you send them back to the same Mac, they appear as normal. Anybody else experienced anything like this? Cheers, Andrew I went to a restaurant that serves breakfast at any time. So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance. - Stephen Wright
Word Problem
Hi Peoples I am having trouble opening printing a Word doc that I have received as an attachment (Using MS Word 2001, Mac OS8.6) The document opens but within a few seconds it shows in the bottom bar a process called Converting EMF and then hangs the computer forcing me to reboot. Can anyone please enlighten me on what is happening and any way of getting around it? I have tried to pre-empt the converting emf process by doing a Comm P before it appears in the bottom bar but all that did was to now give me a type 3 error. Many thanks in advance, Alex -- Best Computer Accounting Alex Novakovic 10 Mulloway Court, Burns Beach, Western Australia 6028, Australia Ph/Fax 61 08 9305 6310 Mobile 041 990 2440 MYOB Certified Consultant If I keep a green bough in my heart, the singing bird will come. Chinese Proverb Everyone dies, but no-one is dead - Tibetan saying More life to all and less to none!
Re: Word Problem
Alex EMF is an Enhanched Media File (Windows) and your MS Word 2001 obviously has not got the capabilities of converting it. You will find in general that Mac Word will do a reasonable job converting normal Windows Word documents but as soon as some form of graphic is included into it more often than not you might as well forget even trying. Dave Watkins At 12:17 AM +0800 10/9/03, Alex Novakovic said: Hi Peoples I am having trouble opening printing a Word doc that I have received as an attachment (Using MS Word 2001, Mac OS8.6) The document opens but within a few seconds it shows in the bottom bar a process called Converting EMF and then hangs the computer forcing me to reboot. Can anyone please enlighten me on what is happening and any way of getting around it? I have tried to pre-empt the converting emf process by doing a Comm P before it appears in the bottom bar but all that did was to now give me a type 3 error. Many thanks in advance, Alex
