Re: New iMac Advice
Thank you to all WAMUGgers who have answered my query re the new iMac specs. I appreciate your comments. Now to sit down and do the heart and head sums. Reg On 30 Apr 2008, at 7:45pm, Paul K wrote: Hi Reg, With the extra 4GB of RAM that is still cheaper than I paid for the previous 2.8GHz model with 2GB of RAM. No Ed discount of course. If you can afford the 750GB drive then grab it but believe me the 500GB is huge! The FW800 port gives excellent opportunity for adding secondary storage later, very fast but not compared to an internal drive. If you are used to a G3 iMac then you better strap yourselves to the chair with one of these little numbers ;-) Have fun Paul -- the government owes you an answer, but it thinks you don't deserve a good answer, because you aren't going to do anything about it. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New iMac Advice
Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non-Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
I think it's always been exceptionally cheaper to buy RAM separate from your Apple purchase but that was when you could keep your standard RAM chips and add in extra ones yourself. I think the iMac only has the 2 RAM chips that come preloaded so you'd be replacing 2GB of RAM if you wanted to upgrade using non-Apple purchased RAM. In terms of hard drive space you can easily get an external one at a later date if you end up needing it for a decent price. In your shoes I would go for a bit more hard drive space than I think I'd need but not worry about maxing it. Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Hi Rob Thanks for your reply. Maybe I might run VMWare too? But it's all relative really. The base iMac now must be at least 1000% more capable than Ruby? What about the 3.06? Reg On 29 Apr 2008, at 7:08pm, Robert Howells wrote: Hi Reg On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. Just remember Reg that you need plenty of spare space on the HD to allow the OS to use it for caching . Small space equals slow speed . Bob We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Keep in mind that the genuine Apple RAM is ECC Registered, where as any RAM you buy is likely to be non-ECC registered unless you spend quite a bit of money on it. ECC registered RAM as listed by Wikipedia.org is: Error-correcting memory Main article: Dynamic random access memory#Errors and error correction Because soft errors are extremely common in the DRAM of computers used in satellites and space probes, such memory is structured as ECC memory (also called EDAC protected memory). Typically every bit of memory is refreshed at least 15 times per second. During this memory refresh, the memory controller reads each word of memory and writes the (corrected) word back.[citation needed] Such memory controllers traditionally use a Hamming code, although some use triple modular redundancy. Even though a single cosmic ray can upset many physically neighboring bits in a DRAM, such memory systems are designed so that neighboring bits belong to different words, so such single event upsets (SEUs) cause only a single error in any particular word, and so can be corrected by a single-bit error correcting code. As long as no more than a single bit in any particular word is hit by an error between refreshes, such a memory system presents the illusion of an error-free memory. [1] Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory#Error-correcting_memory Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dark1 Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 7:15 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: New iMac Advice I think it's always been exceptionally cheaper to buy RAM separate from your Apple purchase but that was when you could keep your standard RAM chips and add in extra ones yourself. I think the iMac only has the 2 RAM chips that come preloaded so you'd be replacing 2GB of RAM if you wanted to upgrade using non-Apple purchased RAM. In terms of hard drive space you can easily get an external one at a later date if you end up needing it for a decent price. In your shoes I would go for a bit more hard drive space than I think I'd need but not worry about maxing it. Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:09:05 +0800 To: Adam hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jude [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New iMac Advice Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: But if you're not intending to send your Mac into space, is it OK to buy third party RAM? :P Keep in mind that the genuine Apple RAM is ECC Registered, where as any RAM you buy is likely to be non-ECC registered unless you spend quite a bit of money on it. ECC registered RAM as listed by Wikipedia.org is: Error-correcting memory Main article: Dynamic random access memory#Errors and error correction Because soft errors are extremely common in the DRAM of computers used in satellites and space probes, such memory is structured as ECC memory (also called EDAC protected memory). Typically every bit of memory is refreshed at least 15 times per second. During this memory refresh, the memory controller reads each word of memory and writes the (corrected) word back.[citation needed] Such memory controllers traditionally use a Hamming code, although some use triple modular redundancy. Even though a single cosmic ray can upset many physically neighboring bits in a DRAM, such memory systems are designed so that neighboring bits belong to different words, so such single event upsets (SEUs) cause only a single error in any particular word, and so can be corrected by a single-bit error correcting code. As long as no more than a single bit in any particular word is hit by an error between refreshes, such a memory system presents the illusion of an error-free memory. [1] Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_memory#Error-correcting_memory Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dark1 Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 7:15 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: New iMac Advice I think it's always been exceptionally cheaper to buy RAM separate from your Apple purchase but that was when you could keep your standard RAM chips and add in extra ones yourself. I think the iMac only has the 2 RAM chips that come preloaded so you'd be replacing 2GB of RAM if you wanted to upgrade using non-Apple purchased RAM. In terms of hard drive space you can easily get an external one at a later date if you end up needing it for a decent price. In your shoes I would go for a bit more hard drive space than I think I'd need but not worry about maxing it. Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keychain not holding web authentication details on new iMac
I've just set up and started using a new iMac and I noticed that keychain is not holding web site authentication details as per, well, every other mac I use. I've tried reseting Keychain, it still holds other details (attached servers, iTunes etc). any ideas? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keychain not holding web authentication details on new iMac
... DUH please ignore Shey pointed me in the right direction and I'm obviously having an asleep at the wheel kinda day as I didn't have the name and password tickbox selected in safari security. only being using macs for 24 years so I'm still a gN00bzor On 06/03/2008, at 10:21 AM, Mark Secker wrote: I've just set up and started using a new iMac and I noticed that keychain is not holding web site authentication details as per, well, every other mac I use. I've tried reseting Keychain, it still holds other details (attached servers, iTunes etc). any ideas? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re - New Imac keyboard
Distilled water is a suitable medium for washing contaminated items - in the olden days there were some celebrated demonstrations of TVs working while fully immersed in tanks of distilled water. The problem with a keyboard is drying it out. But if the keypad is a sealed one-piece membrane you may have a chance of recovery by carefully drilling some holes in the bottom of the case and setting it in a warm place to dry out for a couple of weeks. I would buy a new keyboard in the meantime. Cheers, Paul. -- Dr Paul R. Weaver Fremantle - Home of the Dockers http://fremantlebiz.livejournal.com/calendar -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
A can of tricky dickie smiths Contact Cleaner may be useful too, if the moths let you into the purse again R On 13 Nov 2007, at 2:07pm, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam On 13/11/2007, at 7:41 AM, Adam hewitt wrote: Pull it apart IMMEDIATELY. Cola contains acid which is causing oxidation of the circuitry inside the keyboard. You really need to pull it apart and clean it all off from the inside. It is a pain, but I failed to do this quick enough with my $120 Logitech G15 gaming keyboard and it is now sitting at the back of the room to be used as spare parts when I finally get around to replacing it. Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of samantha whitely Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2007 7:14 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New Imac keyboard Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Just as a note if anyone is looking at buying one, it is a beautiful thing to type on and not as awkward as the laptop pads due to their extra length I suppose and now my old one seems really clunky. Thanks, Sam. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
That sounds like a very good idea actually, i am getting a little infuriated that we can get all these lovely things, and yet to look after them properly you need to buy so many after market products, for my husbands MacBook we have the plastic case, screen cover, keyboard cover (maybe I should get one of these for myself) and the same goes for the kids Nintendo's - so its not just apple - but it would be nice to have products that can withstand 3 kids a hubby and an overly large pup without having to resort to these. All is fairly well so far, it has been 3 days or so, so hopefully all i have to contend with is the slightly sticky A, and shift keys, will let you know how it goes. Thanks all for your help, it was very appreciated, Sam. On 13/11/2007, at 8:07 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
As a last resort you could always try putting it in the dishwasher. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11029793 That is a last resort and I don't intend this to sound like a recommendation in any way. Hope the you are all coping well with the heat. Paul Doyle ( Who should really be joining the Victorian MUG but can't face leaving WAMUG) On 13/11/2007, at 10:27 PM, samantha whitely wrote: That sounds like a very good idea actually, i am getting a little infuriated that we can get all these lovely things, and yet to look after them properly you need to buy so many after market products, for my husbands MacBook we have the plastic case, screen cover, keyboard cover (maybe I should get one of these for myself) and the same goes for the kids Nintendo's - so its not just apple - but it would be nice to have products that can withstand 3 kids a hubby and an overly large pup without having to resort to these. All is fairly well so far, it has been 3 days or so, so hopefully all i have to contend with is the slightly sticky A, and shift keys, will let you know how it goes. Thanks all for your help, it was very appreciated, Sam. On 13/11/2007, at 8:07 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
Prevention being better than cure, has anyone got any direct experience with after market waterproof keyboard covers for mac keyboards? Lots of links on Google such as http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/12038923/Mac_silicon_waterproof_keyboard_cov er.html John __ John Winters Phone +61 8 9244 4564 Fax +61 8 9446 7709 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:45:04 +1100 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: New Imac keyboard As a last resort you could always try putting it in the dishwasher. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11029793 That is a last resort and I don't intend this to sound like a recommendation in any way. Hope the you are all coping well with the heat. Paul Doyle ( Who should really be joining the Victorian MUG but can't face leaving WAMUG) On 13/11/2007, at 10:27 PM, samantha whitely wrote: That sounds like a very good idea actually, i am getting a little infuriated that we can get all these lovely things, and yet to look after them properly you need to buy so many after market products, for my husbands MacBook we have the plastic case, screen cover, keyboard cover (maybe I should get one of these for myself) and the same goes for the kids Nintendo's - so its not just apple - but it would be nice to have products that can withstand 3 kids a hubby and an overly large pup without having to resort to these. All is fairly well so far, it has been 3 days or so, so hopefully all i have to contend with is the slightly sticky A, and shift keys, will let you know how it goes. Thanks all for your help, it was very appreciated, Sam. On 13/11/2007, at 8:07 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
Sorry for your misfortune, but actual design of keyboard could be saviour? As it looks and feels if there is not much chance of liquid penetrating surface too much as with powerbook keyboards. Try a good burst of WD40 or some other lubricant of similar purchase, then blast it with air hose or just reverse vacuum cleaner. Wipe keyboard with Red Rooster toilette or baby wipes, last resort warm wash cloth with mild detergent removes greasy feel and some smell, let it air for few hours and it should heal. Electronic stores have lots of variations for WD40 without odour, but also come with hefty price and I always find WD40 does job very well when moisture is concerned. Red Rooster toilettes are also indispensable as monitor and laptop cleaning cloths no detergent, but KFC have some form of detergent do not use. Cheers! `Rob... On 13Nov2007, at 20:27 pm, samantha whitely wrote: That sounds like a very good idea actually, i am getting a little infuriated that we can get all these lovely things, and yet to look after them properly you need to buy so many after market products, for my husbands MacBook we have the plastic case, screen cover, keyboard cover (maybe I should get one of these for myself) and the same goes for the kids Nintendo's - so its not just apple - but it would be nice to have products that can withstand 3 kids a hubby and an overly large pup without having to resort to these. All is fairly well so far, it has been 3 days or so, so hopefully all i have to contend with is the slightly sticky A, and shift keys, will let you know how it goes. Thanks all for your help, it was very appreciated, Sam. On 13/11/2007, at 8:07 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
STOP THERE : WD40 is good for getting rid of moisture , BUT with it's oil content it's not so good for electrical contacts. But the idea is well founded ... just use a different product . The one I know about is ULS Electrolube : quote A fast drying cleaning solvent for use on electronic and mechanical assemblies. Removes oil, grease and flux contaminants. safe on most plastics Similar productsmaybe available at Electrical wholesalers , Jaycar , Tandy etc . Bob On 14/11/2007, at 6:03 AM, Rob Davies wrote: Sorry for your misfortune, but actual design of keyboard could be saviour? As it looks and feels if there is not much chance of liquid penetrating surface too much as with powerbook keyboards. Try a good burst of WD40 or some other lubricant of similar purchase, then blast it with air hose or just reverse vacuum cleaner. Wipe keyboard with Red Rooster toilette or baby wipes, last resort warm wash cloth with mild detergent removes greasy feel and some smell, let it air for few hours and it should heal. Electronic stores have lots of variations for WD40 without odour, but also come with hefty price and I always find WD40 does job very well when moisture is concerned. Red Rooster toilettes are also indispensable as monitor and laptop cleaning cloths no detergent, but KFC have some form of detergent do not use. Cheers! `Rob... On 13Nov2007, at 20:27 pm, samantha whitely wrote: That sounds like a very good idea actually, i am getting a little infuriated that we can get all these lovely things, and yet to look after them properly you need to buy so many after market products, for my husbands MacBook we have the plastic case, screen cover, keyboard cover (maybe I should get one of these for myself) and the same goes for the kids Nintendo's - so its not just apple - but it would be nice to have products that can withstand 3 kids a hubby and an overly large pup without having to resort to these. All is fairly well so far, it has been 3 days or so, so hopefully all i have to contend with is the slightly sticky A, and shift keys, will let you know how it goes. Thanks all for your help, it was very appreciated, Sam. On 13/11/2007, at 8:07 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote: Very sorry about this Sam, best of luck!Not that this information will help you but, Thomas has just flown the Airbus A380 simulator in Toulouse and the keyboard which is mounted on the fold away table which is stored on the instrument panel in front of the pilots is waterproof because, according to Airbus, pilots are forever knocking their cups of tea over things. Perhaps Apple needs to confer with Airbus for future keyboard design ... Wendy On 13 Nov 2007, at 12:05, samantha whitely wrote: Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island Mob: +2302560182 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Imac keyboard
Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Just as a note if anyone is looking at buying one, it is a beautiful thing to type on and not as awkward as the laptop pads due to their extra length I suppose and now my old one seems really clunky. Thanks, Sam. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
Pull it apart IMMEDIATELY. Cola contains acid which is causing oxidation of the circuitry inside the keyboard. You really need to pull it apart and clean it all off from the inside. It is a pain, but I failed to do this quick enough with my $120 Logitech G15 gaming keyboard and it is now sitting at the back of the room to be used as spare parts when I finally get around to replacing it. Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of samantha whitely Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2007 7:14 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New Imac keyboard Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Just as a note if anyone is looking at buying one, it is a beautiful thing to type on and not as awkward as the laptop pads due to their extra length I suppose and now my old one seems really clunky. Thanks, Sam. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
On 13/11/2007, at 7:14 AM, samantha whitely wrote: Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Oh Sam, This is not your new iMac Keyboard but it does show you step by step how to clean an Apple Keyboard. http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/11/16/how-to-cleaning-the-apple-keyboard/ Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
But do the keys come out the same? They are awfully flat. On 13/11/2007, at 7:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 13/11/2007, at 7:14 AM, samantha whitely wrote: Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Oh Sam, This is not your new iMac Keyboard but it does show you step by step how to clean an Apple Keyboard. http://theminiblog.co.uk/archives/2006/11/16/how-to-cleaning-the- apple-keyboard/ Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Imac keyboard
Well, I went off to my lovely Apple shop and got the great news that this model of keyboard cannot be pulled apart : ( So the best I can do is clean the top as well as I can (am a bit wary of using the metholated spirits, because there is not many other places it can go except into the circuitry because it is so slim) and hope for the best. So a new cleaning kit and a couple of odds and ends later (i really should have left my purse home!) here I am cleaning, cross fingers! Sam On 13/11/2007, at 7:41 AM, Adam hewitt wrote: Pull it apart IMMEDIATELY. Cola contains acid which is causing oxidation of the circuitry inside the keyboard. You really need to pull it apart and clean it all off from the inside. It is a pain, but I failed to do this quick enough with my $120 Logitech G15 gaming keyboard and it is now sitting at the back of the room to be used as spare parts when I finally get around to replacing it. Adam. -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of samantha whitely Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2007 7:14 AM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New Imac keyboard Hello all, I have a new I mac keyboard that I have spilt a cola based drink on. I mopped it up as best I could straight away, but am unsure if I am able to take it apart and clean it as the keys are now sticky , and I am thinking that cola + sugar + lovely new keyboard won't be a good combination. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated, or else its off to someone who knows an awful lot more than me about keyboards asap. Just as a note if anyone is looking at buying one, it is a beautiful thing to type on and not as awkward as the laptop pads due to their extra length I suppose and now my old one seems really clunky. Thanks, Sam. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any new iMac comming?
Hi all I'm in the market to buy a 24inch iMac ,whats the roumours on any updates on the imacs, before i buy one.Should i wait just a liitle bit longer. Bart -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any new iMac comming?
Bart, as the current Aluminium iMacs were only introduced in August of this year, I would doubt there will be any new models in the near term. I've certainly not heard of any rumours. Our 24 Al iMac finally arrived a few weeks ago after ordering it the day after they were released in August - a 2 month wait. - due I believe to ordering the new Bluetooth keyboard which was still being certified by the FCC (and possibly because we went for the 2.8GHz CPU). The one good thing was we qualified for the $12.95 Leopard upgrade. Very sweet machine and far faster than our old 17 G5 iMac. I just need to work out how to get iChat (Leopard) on the iMac to auto-accept a screen sharing call from my laptop so I can remote control it from work. :-) -Mart On 27/10/2007, at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I'm in the market to buy a 24inch iMac ,whats the roumours on any updates on the imacs, before i buy one.Should i wait just a liitle bit longer. Bart -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Hill email: mart at ozmac.com homepages: http://mart.ozmac.com Mb: 0401-103-194 hm: (08)9314-5242 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New imac advice wanted
Hi Graham, I would be waiting for the new OS in a few weeks and saving some dollars. Don't forget to ask for a deal at David Jones or JB HiFI. DJs were including software packs like Office Works before the new models came out. Possibly will still do similar. All it requires is to ask. DJs at Garden city were clearing old models last week. They had some Apple laptops still sealed up in cartons. The cheapest was about twelve hundred bucks. JB Hi FI in Myaree do good deals too. Last week I bought am iPod nano and Micromedia audio recorder from them. Both at a much cheaper price than Apple au. and Curtin's student price. They had plenty of stock too, including the new iMacs on display and several of each type in sealed cartons. Good luck, Paul. -- Dr Paul R. Weaver Fremantle - Home of the Dockers http://fremantlebiz.livejournal.com/calendar -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New imac advice wanted
Hi all, I'm thinking of buying a new desktop machine to complement my G4 powerbook. I'm thinking 20 imac, 2.4GHz, and have a couple of questions 1. Should I wait for Leopard? 2. Most seem to come with ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO but winthrop shop at UWA advertise Radeon X1600 Graphics card (with NVIDIA GeForce 7300GT in the 24}. Which is better? Does it matter? I'm not a big game player or video editor at the moment but I don't want to limit the options. Are there any other options I should consider? I would want 2GB RAM but otherwise 'as advertised' seems fine. 3. There seems to be a bit more price variability than there used to be in the apple world? Are there any special deals around at the moment? In terms of price i've seen: $2,149: 20, 2.4GHz, 1GB, 320GB, Radeon HD 2600 PRO: @ nextbyte, stirling highway $2,069.10 20, 2.16GHz, 1GB, 250GB, Radeon X1600 : @ UWA Campus (edu price, RRP is $2,299, they say) Seems that it's not much of edu discount for a lesser machine. I also saw some at Myer in Perth, just as they were closing on Sunday - they seemed fairly cheap but I had no time - and now I'm back in Dongara for a few weeks. Thanks for all and any comments, Graham -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New imac advice wanted
On 28/08/2007, at 10:39 AM, Graham Byatt wrote: Hi all, I'm thinking of buying a new desktop machine to complement my G4 powerbook. I'm thinking 20 imac, 2.4GHz, and have a couple of questions 1. Should I wait for Leopard? 2. Most seem to come with ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO but winthrop shop at UWA advertise Radeon X1600 Graphics card (with NVIDIA GeForce 7300GT in the 24}. Which is better? Does it matter? I'm not a big game player or video editor at the moment but I don't want to limit the options. Are there any other options I should consider? I would want 2GB RAM but otherwise 'as advertised' seems fine. 3. There seems to be a bit more price variability than there used to be in the apple world? Are there any special deals around at the moment? In terms of price i've seen: $2,149: 20, 2.4GHz, 1GB, 320GB, Radeon HD 2600 PRO: @ nextbyte, stirling highway $2,069.10 20, 2.16GHz, 1GB, 250GB, Radeon X1600 : @ UWA Campus (edu price, RRP is $2,299, they say) Seems that it's not much of edu discount for a lesser machine. I also saw some at Myer in Perth, just as they were closing on Sunday - they seemed fairly cheap but I had no time - and now I'm back in Dongara for a few weeks. Thanks for all and any comments, Graham You failed to mention that you had browsed the Apple store : they will have all the current available models listed . http://store.apple.com/133-622/WebObjects/australiastore Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New imac advice wanted
Hi Graham I was talking to Mike at the Mac shop at Joondalup about the same machine yesterday. The price is $1698 and he advises I wait for Leopard and the new iLife around October. Cheers John D On 28/8/07 10:39 AM, Graham Byatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm thinking of buying a new desktop machine to complement my G4 powerbook. I'm thinking 20 imac, 2.4GHz, and have a couple of questions 1. Should I wait for Leopard? 2. Most seem to come with ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO but winthrop shop at UWA advertise Radeon X1600 Graphics card (with NVIDIA GeForce 7300GT in the 24}. Which is better? Does it matter? I'm not a big game player or video editor at the moment but I don't want to limit the options. Are there any other options I should consider? I would want 2GB RAM but otherwise 'as advertised' seems fine. 3. There seems to be a bit more price variability than there used to be in the apple world? Are there any special deals around at the moment? In terms of price i've seen: $2,149: 20, 2.4GHz, 1GB, 320GB, Radeon HD 2600 PRO: @ nextbyte, stirling highway $2,069.10 20, 2.16GHz, 1GB, 250GB, Radeon X1600 : @ UWA Campus (edu price, RRP is $2,299, they say) Seems that it's not much of edu discount for a lesser machine. I also saw some at Myer in Perth, just as they were closing on Sunday - they seemed fairly cheap but I had no time - and now I'm back in Dongara for a few weeks. Thanks for all and any comments, Graham -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New iMac ??
Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
On 30/06/2007, at 10:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Steve (Jobs) made reference to them a number of times since the WWDC, however I don't think they will be coming out for a few weeks at least. Apple wants all media focus to be on the iPhone at the moment, so they won't do anything to distract from that. We will probably see them in three or four weeks. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
It's been over 300 days since the iMac line of computers was upgraded in any way so an update is imminent. Apple have in the last year or so staggered computer releases and just released new products at any time and not waiting for a PR event to stop speculation. I highly doubt anything will happen with-in the week with the iPhone being released just today! If he is willing to wait he maybe better off to get an old stock iMac using a C2D rather then the new Santa Rose processors which should be stepping into the iMacs which may cause issues. We all know that Rev A products of anything are always rubbish! (On a side note, rather than the iMac being just upgraded internally it may actually be coming in a new form factor which will have more issues then just a processor upgrade!) Personal choice but later revisions are always better then the Rev A! Interesting reading how the iPhone was put together and how they are trying to improve reliability! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to receive this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Chape Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 10:26 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New iMac ?? Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
Hey Something I was just going to add, if your step-son is travelling being a pilot why not consider a portable Mac as the way togo, would be more beneficial for him! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to receive this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Chape Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 10:26 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New iMac ?? Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
Did anyone get my e-mail that I sent about three minutes before this one in the same thread? I didn't! :( Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to receive this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Moyle Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 11:04 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: New iMac ?? Hey Something I was just going to add, if your step-son is travelling being a pilot why not consider a portable Mac as the way togo, would be more beneficial for him! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to receive this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Chape Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 10:26 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: New iMac ?? Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
[Sorry about all the e-mails in a row, this one didn't come through and this was my main one!] It's been over 300 days since the iMac line of computers was upgraded in any way so an update is imminent. Apple have in the last year or so staggered computer releases and just released new products at any time and not waiting for a PR event to stop speculation. I highly doubt anything will happen with-in the week with the iPhone being released just today! If he is willing to wait he maybe better off to get an old stock iMac using a C2D rather then the new Santa Rose processors which should be stepping into the iMacs which may cause issues. We all know that Rev A products of anything are always rubbish! (On a side note, rather than the iMac being just upgraded internally it may actually be coming in a new form factor which will have more issues then just a processor upgrade!) Personal choice but later revisions are always better then the Rev A! Interesting reading how the iPhone was put together and how they are trying to improve reliability! Thanks, David Moyle -- Bertram, Western Australia E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a cluttered desk is characteristic of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk mean? Confidentiality Notice: The contents of this email are confid.. Were you meant to receive this? If not, delete it. Please? -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Healey Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 10:50 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: New iMac ?? On 30/06/2007, at 10:25 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: Hi folks, My step-son is a 1st Officer (pilot) with Emirates. He was in New York last week and visited an Apple Store. He is a Windows user but may convert soon (fed up with the dark side he tells me). The guy in the Apple Store advised him to wait for the great new iMac to be released next week. I cannot see anything re this on the web, and I feel certain that it would have surfaced at WWD conference. Anyone else heard anything ? Steve (Jobs) made reference to them a number of times since the WWDC, however I don't think they will be coming out for a few weeks at least. Apple wants all media focus to be on the iPhone at the moment, so they won't do anything to distract from that. We will probably see them in three or four weeks. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac ??
Stephen Chape wrote: Anyone else heard anything ? Yes, Ive heard something, very little though. A suggestion they might look similar to Apple Cinema Displays. Time it lost it's post-it note area... Have fun Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kev's new iMac
Hi Paul, I still have my little Mac Classic - my very first Mac, and it still works. Just wished I had kept my Colour Classic though!! Merry Christmas to you and all WAMUG'ers! Philippe C -- You can't direct the wind, but you can adjust your sails. German Proverb on 22/12/06 7:20 AM, Paul Weaver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KEVIN Lock wrote: Subject: New 20 Intel iMac Just today bought a new iMac ($2,099 - teachers' pricing). Nice! Sadly, I can remember buying a black and white Mac Classic for almost exactly the same price many (15?) years ago. Merry Christmas folks. Paul. -- Dr Paul R. Weaver Fremantle - Home of the Dockers http://www.livejournal.com/users/fremantlebiz/calendar -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAM Upgrade for new iMac
Hi WAMUGers Looking at buying an iMac for xmas. It comes with 2? ram slots and 1 x 512 module installed I think. I would like to get lots of RAM for Motion etc. I can get 2 x 1GB modules for $189 each ( and I guess I throw the 512 one away). Is this the best way to go in your opinion please? ta Rod Blitvich -- Rod BLITVICH Head of Learning Technologies Balcatta Senior High School Apple Educator of Excellence 2002 - 2003 Amy and Sam's Dad [EMAIL PROTECTED]0409 681 256 http://www.apple.com.au/education/hed/products/ibook/balcatta.html --- If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you.
Re: RAM Upgrade for new iMac
Rod, The new iMac has only one spare memory slot. The 512MB is on the board, so the max you can install is 512MB + 2GB (DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-4200)). You can do this via 'build-to-order'. Cheers, Peder On 08/11/2005, at 6:30 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote: Hi WAMUGers Looking at buying an iMac for xmas. It comes with 2? ram slots and 1 x 512 module installed I think. I would like to get lots of RAM for Motion etc. I can get 2 x 1GB modules for $189 each ( and I guess I throw the 512 one away). Is this the best way to go in your opinion please? ta Rod Blitvich -- Rod BLITVICH Head of Learning Technologies Balcatta Senior High School Apple Educator of Excellence 2002 - 2003 Amy and Sam's Dad [EMAIL PROTECTED]0409 681 256 http://www.apple.com.au/education/hed/products/ibook/balcatta.html --- If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: RAM Upgrade for new iMac
On 8/11/2005 6:30 AM, Rod Blitvich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WAMUGers Looking at buying an iMac for xmas. It comes with 2? ram slots and 1 x 512 module installed I think. I would like to get lots of RAM for Motion etc. I can get 2 x 1GB modules for $189 each ( and I guess I throw the 512 one away). Is this the best way to go in your opinion please? ta Rod Blitvich Hi Rod As mentioned in another post the 512MB is soldiered to the board, so you only have one other RAM slot to upgrade. You can upgrade to a total of 2.5GB RAM by adding a 2GB Module, but they are rather pricing at the moment,...about $1375 (or anywhere up to $1770 depending where you look) for a 2GB module! So at this point in time until pricing comes down your best bet is to add a 1GB module (about $169) then once prices come down in say, 6 months, then look at upgrading it if need be and trade back the 1GB module. Sort of more worth it in my mind,..and that's what most of my clients have down when we've ordered them new iMac's. :o) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh**
New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
Hi All Apple have updates some of the products,.. New iMac G5 17 1.9GHz G5 17-inch widescreen LCD 1.9GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 160GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 Pro graphics with 128MB DDR memory $1999 Now with built in iSight and Remote!! New iMac G4 20 2.1GHz 20-inch widescreen LCD 2.1GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 250GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 XT graphics with 128MB DDR memory $2649 Now with built in iSight and separate remote! WAY COOL!! New iPod Video 30GB - $449 60GB - $598 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos, 150 hours of video! It has a 6.35cm colour display Comes in white or black. Check out Apple's page if you want more info,..or email me. http://www.apple.com.au Enjoy!!! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh**
Re: New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
On Thursday 13 October 2005 02:22, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi All Apple have updates some of the products,.. New iMac G5 17 1.9GHz G5 17-inch widescreen LCD 1.9GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 160GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 Pro graphics with 128MB DDR memory $1999 Now with built in iSight and Remote!! New iMac G4 20 2.1GHz 20-inch widescreen LCD 2.1GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 250GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 XT graphics with 128MB DDR memory $2649 Now with built in iSight and separate remote! WAY COOL!! New iPod Video 30GB - $449 60GB - $598 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos, 150 hours of video! It has a 6.35cm colour display Comes in white or black. Check out Apple's page if you want more info,..or email me. http://www.apple.com.au And the death of the eMac :-) Notice it is nowhere to be seen on Apple's pages now? Steve has finally laid to rest the CRT, that he promised a few years back. Also iTunes 6 has been released, which in my view will need a name change at some point, as it is obviously going to become the media centre for Mac or PC. Now you can buy TV shows through iTMS too...well, not here. Which poses a really interesting question. What tv shows are going to be available here when iTMS finally does open? Are they last season's shows, to keep in line with the woeful lineup our networks in Australia have? You could really see a challenge to network tv through this system, as you could download tv shows when you want, *legally*, and hopefully up to date. Seeya Rod!
Re: New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
Have also just noticed that the new iMacG5 also ships with the Mighty Mouse as well. :o) So may be the end of the one button mouse over time. And also,..they've released alongside the iMacG5 a small, light external USB modem for dialup users as the modem as been taken out of the unit. Good to note just incase anyone is still on dialup. Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh**
Re: New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
On 13/10/2005, at 8:32 AM, Rod wrote: And the death of the eMac :-) Notice it is nowhere to be seen on Apple's pages now? Steve has finally laid to rest the CRT, that he promised a few years back. Still available as an educational purchase apparently... BTW Apple Australia don't seem to have updated the site yet - anyone know what happens to regular iPods in terms of price? Have they dropped? Do they still exist? Or is it video or nothing?
Re: New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
So... if someone decided they needed to sell their 40GB iPod Photo (11 months old) (in order to upgrade), what do you reckon would be a fair price? Ta Rod Blitvich On Thursday 13 October 2005 02:22, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi All Apple have updates some of the products,.. New iMac G5 17 1.9GHz G5 17-inch widescreen LCD 1.9GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 160GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 Pro graphics with 128MB DDR memory $1999 Now with built in iSight and Remote!! New iMac G4 20 2.1GHz 20-inch widescreen LCD 2.1GHz PowerPC G5 processor 512MB memory (533MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 250GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X600 XT graphics with 128MB DDR memory $2649 Now with built in iSight and separate remote! WAY COOL!! New iPod Video 30GB - $449 60GB - $598 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos, 150 hours of video! It has a 6.35cm colour display Comes in white or black. Check out Apple's page if you want more info,..or email me. http://www.apple.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: New iMac G5 and New Video iPod
New iMac G5 snip Now with built in iSight and Remote!! given it's design I'm guessing we'll be seeing a few people running for the bus trying in vain to insert their iPod headphones in to their shuffle (iMac remote) while their other half is trying to work out why the remote control (iPod shuffle) doesn't work -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph# 61-8-6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) Ubi fumus, ibi fumus
Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
YUK!!! At first I saw the side view and thought it was a new Gillette razor. And not a mention of the G5 iMac design which is far more elegant. Peter Bull -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:13:23 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer WOW man that styling is so... so... so 80's Marantz stereo system colours meets Gennex (generic brand TV hifi) ergonomics. it also looks like it's supposed to have espresso taps on top rather than a screen. seriously if I was back at high school (circa 1984) and this picture was doing the rounds as the future of computers I probably would have been impressed, 20 years down the track I'm gob smacked that anybody can come up with a design THAT BAD! Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) rmkay PS: Steve Jobs must be rolling on the floor laughing if this is the best the competition can come up with. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) That is the most hideous looking computer I've ever had the displeasure of viewing. It's like they took the iMac and ran it through an ugly machine.
Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
On 22/09/2004, at 5:20 PM, Richard Kay wrote: Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) Once again, Apple shows how it should be done, and the others can only come with this sort of stuff. It looks like a bad prop from a really bad Lost In Space set. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
Mark Secker wrote: WOW man that styling is so... so... so 80's Marantz stereo system colours meets Gennex (generic brand TV hifi) ergonomics. it also looks like it's supposed to have espresso taps on top rather than a screen. seriously if I was back at high school (circa 1984) and this picture was doing the rounds as the future of computers I probably would have been impressed, 20 years down the track I'm gob smacked that anybody can come up with a design THAT BAD! Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) rmkay PS: Steve Jobs must be rolling on the floor laughing if this is the best the competition can come up with. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro Boy, the 20th Anniversary mac has got some stiff competition now. You better wake up Jobsy Ew Paul
Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) rmkay PS: Steve Jobs must be rolling on the floor laughing if this is the best the competition can come up with.
Re: Gateway's New iMac G5 Killer
WOW man that styling is so... so... so 80's Marantz stereo system colours meets Gennex (generic brand TV hifi) ergonomics. it also looks like it's supposed to have espresso taps on top rather than a screen. seriously if I was back at high school (circa 1984) and this picture was doing the rounds as the future of computers I probably would have been impressed, 20 years down the track I'm gob smacked that anybody can come up with a design THAT BAD! Check out Gateway's new iMac G5 Killer here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1648470,00.asp A word of warning ... only to be viewed on an empty stomach!! ;-) rmkay PS: Steve Jobs must be rolling on the floor laughing if this is the best the competition can come up with. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: New iMac Prices and Configuation ($Aus)
The new iMacs are seriously cool BUT! Why oh why did they only put in 64MB's of video RAM! Most games that have come out this year pretty much need 128MB's to be playable. - Matt
Re: New iMac Prices and Configuation ($Aus)
On 31/08/2004, at 6:29 PM, Matthew Healey wrote: The new iMacs are seriously cool BUT! Why oh why did they only put in 64MB's of video RAM! Most games that have come out this year pretty much need 128MB's to be playable. - Matt Yes ... it is a pity they don't even allow a 128MB VRAM BTO option for an extra A$76 like the high end laptops ... I just double-checked ... they don't!! :-( rmkay
New iMac G5 Details
From: http://www.macobserver.com PARIS, FRANCE - Apple announced new iMacs today, bringing the long-awaited G5 processor to the consumer product line. The iMac G5 includes a new all-in-one form factor similar to Apple's current line of Cinema Displays, and Apple is touting the design as the world's thinnest desktop PC, at only 2 thick. Apple is offering a 17 1.6 GHz model with a combo drive, a 64 MB NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra video card, two USB 1.1 ports, three USB 2.0 ports, two FireWire ports, 10/100 Base-T Ethernet, a built-in 56K modem, S-Video and composite video out, an 80 GB hard drive, and 256 MB of RAM. The mid-range model will feature a 17 LCD display with a 1.8 GHz processor, a SuperDrive, and the other features from the entry-level model. A 20 high-end model will sport a 180 GB of Serial ATA storage. The 20 model is 2.2 inches thick. The company is offering a 17 education model that has no optical drive, nor a modem. It also has video card with only 32 MB of memory, as opposed to the 64 MB cards on the consumer models. During the Apple Expo keynote this morning, Phil Schiller also said that the iMac G5 has built-in speaker at the bottom of the iMac that are designed to reflect sound off of the desktop towards the user. Apple's iMac G5 spec sheet also notes that the new model supports wall mounting through a VESA mount, an industry standard mounting system. Mr. Schiller also demonstrated that the back of the iMac is accessible by removing three screws, which allows the user to take off the entire back of the unit. From there, one can easily add memory, or change the drive. In addition, Mr. Schiller showed that the iMac G5 has 3 fans, and that the unit is quieter than a whisper. Also of note is the fact that in a video for the new iMac, the introductory text used the phrase From the creators of the iPod. To this end, Apple is comparing the way the iMac looks on its stand to the way that an iPod sits in its Dock. Each iMac model can support up to 2 GB of RAM, a substantial increase over previous iMac models. The company has also added a digital audio output, the same output currently found on Apple's professional Power Mac G5 product line. None of the models include an AirPort Extreme card, though the card is available as an option. 17 1.6GHz - A$2199 17 1.8GHz - A$2499 20 1.8GHz - A$3199 Education model US$1,199 (roughly A$1721) rmkay
New imac extra ram cost??
Anybody know if installing extra Ram on new Imacs ( Want for Photoshop) requires extra installation fee? If so How much? When do we hear AGM resaults? Ciao, P.
Re: New imac extra ram cost??
Anybody know if installing extra Ram on new Imacs ( Want for Photoshop) requires extra installation fee? If so How much? Installing RAM in the internal slot on the flat panel iMacs requires the use of new heatsink gaskets and heatsink compound, so it's not for the fainthearted. As for how much the extra fee is, that would depend on who you used. If you're buying a new flat panel iMac it may be best to 'max out' the RAM in the internal slot at purchase time so that you (or the dealer) don't have to upgrade the DIMM in the internal slot. You can then update the user accessible DIMM later at your leisure. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer It must be bunnies! Opinions for hire [POQ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord
new imac mothers
maybe apple go tthe idea for the new imac from Panoram technologies http://www.panoramtech.com/products/pv230.html ps got this off the apple Mac OS X page Gary Dorn Permaculture architect North Perth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New iMac prices !!
Hi folks, The new iMac prices being passed around are outrageous ! Whatever happened to the entry level Macintosh ?? Regards, Stephen Chape
Re: The new iMac
As an introduction price it is quite reasonable, reasonable enough for a notorious tight-arse like me to seriously think about opening my wallet for the top end. A G4 with flat screen screen (all be it a 15er) and DVD+CD burner for less than the top of the line single processor G4 tower without a screen. yes please. But what I like about it is, given the mass of the base (9Kg) and the low mass of the screen* is that it introduces the possibility of apple upgrading the screen size to 17 and possibly 19 would be a doodle as prices for the flat screens drop. Ow yeh... ONE gripe but a BIG one for me Come on Apple! mirroring on the external monitor port only!! PLEASE give us a break and support extended desktop, the laptops have it and the towers will take a PCI video card why not the iMacs. As it is I'd probably be plugging my 17 or 20 CRT in to it even with mirroring - up the resolution to max and work on the CRT unless I need it for playing games on my PC. OK it may be because I'm spoilt by having my old home mac (7300/200 + matrox card) with 17 20 inch screens and my work mac (PB G3 with built in screen + 17). *the difference between a 15 17 inch studio display is about 1.3 KG of which a sizable amount of that will be the bulkier casing used by the studio screens relative to the iMacs screen. The difference between the 15 and the 22 inch is about 6 kg so a 22 inch display may be beyond the arms weight +safety margin capacity. On 1/10/02 12:38 AM, Peter Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the impending release of the new iMac does this mean that the present supposedly outdated one will be superseded. It seems to me that if Apple are going to stop producing the current model and Apple Australia are going to price the entry level iMac at $3000 then that is the end of Macs in Australia. Macs had a reputation for being expensive compared to PC's (yes I know about Total Cost of Ownership and better reliability etc), then the iMac became very competitively priced compared with the Dark Side, and now it looks like they will become pricey again. Any thoughts? Peter Bull -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess there are a couple of things to take into consideration here. Firstly, Apple are still selling the CRT iMac, which start at $1895. Secondly, this a brand new product. Prices will always be more expensive than they will be in 6 months or a years time. Do you remember how much the original Bondi iMac came out at? $2695! Apple had cheaper alternatives at the time then too. Nearly 2 years later we had a base iMac price of $1495! (Well, until the dollar hit the floor!) I would put my money on the screen being the cause of the higher price. LCD prices are continually falling, so it will only be a matter of time before cheaper flat screen iMacs are available. Take a look at the specs as well - a G4 700 with an LCD screen for $2995. For $3895 you can get a G4 733 tower with no screen! Considering most people never use their PCI slots (and I'll stand by that one!), an LCD iMac is a bargain! Also, take a look at a few of the reviews and articles floating around the various new sites (non-mac ones). All agree that Apple are not fighting with PCs on price anymore. They are differentiating themselves from PCs through the features of the machine and the solutions it provides. No PC comes out of the box with such easy to use apps like iMovie, iPhoto and iTunes. There is not a lot of difference between the various makes of PCs, so they have to fight out there market on price alone. Seeya Rod! -- Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9380 2308 (GSE) 9380 1855 (ECEL) ICQ# 135054846 ECEL Computer Support Officer University of Western Australia. CRICOS Provider No. 00126G Fly fishing is all about taking something that's simple and making it hard. --Anon The nice thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tannenbaum
RE: The new iMac
Ahhh Mark, sorry to disappoint but apparently video mirroring also only supports a max resolution of 1024x768... now that's kinda annoying... -Original Message- From: Mark Secker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 January 2002 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The new iMac As it is I'd probably be plugging my 17 or 20 CRT in to it even with mirroring - up the resolution to max and work on the CRT unless I need it for playing games on my PC. OK it may be because I'm spoilt by having my old home mac (7300/200 + matrox card) with 17 20 inch screens and my work mac (PB G3 with built in screen + 17).
New iMac on TIME
Hi all I've just pick up the latest TIME MAGAZINE an of course the new iMac is on the front. very interesting article so grab a copy. Bart __ ( FLAT-OUT) I COOL! I i I II i (!--) (__ )
Re: New iMac on TIME
At 17:11 11/01/02 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I've just pick up the latest TIME MAGAZINE an of course the new iMac is on the front. very interesting article so grab a copy. Nah, read it on timecanada days ago.. -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The new iMac
on 10/1/02 12:38 AM, Peter Bull at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the impending release of the new iMac does this mean that the present supposedly outdated one will be superseded. It seems to me that if Apple are going to stop producing the current model and Apple Australia are going to price the entry level iMac at $3000 then that is the end of Macs in Australia. Macs had a reputation for being expensive compared to PC's (yes I know about Total Cost of Ownership and better reliability etc), then the iMac became very competitively priced compared with the Dark Side, and now it looks like they will become pricey again. Any thoughts? Peter Bull -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] You make a valid point. But we are assuming that apple are marketing to the average WAMUG user!Why preach to the converted. My personal belief is that the new imac has been developed to continue the following Apple have developed through the Imac into Schools program. People between 14 and 25 have had access to imacs at a school level for many years. Don¹t forget these people will pay $450 + for Fubu Tracksuits!!So $3000.00 for a new imacChicken feed. Imagine being being the position to say P.C ?? Cant say Ive ever used one! Mahons
new iMac about to be shown on TV
I just saw a preview of a story about to be shown on Channel 9 11 am news in a few mins. Tune in if you seen this soon after 11:15 am woz -- - Warren Jones Parkwood, Western Australia
Re: new iMac about to be shown on TV
Too late! It was on v.soon after I sent message. It mentioned the consumer electronics show and showed Billy G's new hand helds. Then... The crowd favourite though was Apple's new iMac... and they showed the iMac coming out of the pedestal with cheering crowds. They mentioned the LCD screen with finger tip control and the price, $2500. Channel 9 obviously didn't take into account the GST and AppleAus factors ;-) woz At 11:17 +0800 09/01/2002, Warren Jones wrote: I just saw a preview of a story about to be shown on Channel 9 11 am news in a few mins. Tune in if you seen this soon after 11:15 am -- - Warren Jones Parkwood, Western Australia
new iMac lacking sound-in port
Hi All My enthusiasm for the new iMac has now been tempered somewhat after looking at the techspecs and pictures (http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html). Judging from this, these wondrous new machines do not have sound in capacity other than the built in mic. One of my favourite things with the iMac is that one can hook up, via the sound in port, a radio, record player or guitar amp and make simple stereo CD quality recording direct to Hard Drive using applications like Coaster or Protools Free. Its certainly not high end audio manipulation/professional recording studio stuff, but its fun which is something I thought the iMac was all about! If/when I have to replace my current iMac, I would hate to have to go to a PC to be able to continue doing this. John Bussell
Re: new iMac lacking sound-in port
Not sure why Apple has taken this approach but it is a real pain. They dropped the sound-in port on the G4 last year.. now you need to buy a USB microphone ie. iMic which go for around $90 (Aus) Plus you have to set the sound input to the iMic each time you want to use it (if you have rebooted). As it is a USB device it does not exist until after bootup so your sound input will drop back to a default such as internal mic or cd. I have written an AppleScript which will set the sound input to whatever you want, just make it a startup item an forget about it. If any one wants it let me know. Take it easy... Shaun At 5:32 PM +0800 9/1/02, John Bussell wrote: Hi All My enthusiasm for the new iMac has now been tempered somewhat after looking at the techspecs and pictures (http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html). Judging from this, these wondrous new machines do not have sound in capacity other than the built in mic. One of my favourite things with the iMac is that one can hook up, via the sound in port, a radio, record player or guitar amp and make simple stereo CD quality recording direct to Hard Drive using applications like Coaster or Protools Free. Its certainly not high end audio manipulation/professional recording studio stuff, but its fun which is something I thought the iMac was all about! If/when I have to replace my current iMac, I would hate to have to go to a PC to be able to continue doing this. John Bussell -- __ Shaun Procter Multimedia Programmer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Faculty of Arts Multimedia Centre phone: +61 8 9380 2891 The University of Western Australia Nedlands WA 6907 http://ilectures.uwa.edu.au __
The new iMac
With the impending release of the new iMac does this mean that the present supposedly outdated one will be superseded. It seems to me that if Apple are going to stop producing the current model and Apple Australia are going to price the entry level iMac at $3000 then that is the end of Macs in Australia. Macs had a reputation for being expensive compared to PC's (yes I know about Total Cost of Ownership and better reliability etc), then the iMac became very competitively priced compared with the Dark Side, and now it looks like they will become pricey again. Any thoughts? Peter Bull -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new iMac (i want one)
Hi All so tired oh well but i love it all . When i saw the new iMac which pictures where realeased through TIME CANADA i wasn't too sure about the design,but when i got see this morinings key note , and keep looking at , I really love it. I want one, Something from 2001 maybe they should of call it iMac Odessey.(will i dream) Thanks Guys for the Keynote setup. Bart no iWalker maybe next time Steve
An american report on the new Imac
Just another viewpoint of the new imacs http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/sh/technology/stories/national-technology-117751120020107-130117.html Have fun Bob
RE: new iMac (i want one)
Yes, indeed... we always know when we want something - that's the moment we see Steve having so much fun in front of that huge audience! Cubes, spheres, dual processors, TiBooks... oh yes, we love 'em all ;-) Since 1998, my slogan for the Apple iMac has been: 'I think, therefore iMac' ... and I'm surprised Steve hasn't built it into the past couple of keynotes, maybe he doesn't read our posts as often as we'd like ;-) Thanks to everyone who stayed up and turned up last night to make it an enjoyable experience. Special thanks to Matt and Martin, rally drivers of the 2 PowerMac G4s with Airport base station! In case you missed any of the show, you can go to the site and watch replays of the event today: http://stream.apple.akads.net/ Also - take a look at the fun cartoon-commentary on the new products: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/278.html Vikki - Where's that 'sleep' function...? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2002 9:51 AM To: WAMUG Subject: new iMac (i want one) Hi All so tired oh well but i love it all . When i saw the new iMac which pictures where released through TIME CANADA i wasn't too sure about the design,but when i got see this morinings key note , and keep looking at , I really love it. I want one, Something from 2001 maybe they should of call it iMac Odessey.(will i dream) Thanks Guys for the Keynote setup. Bart no iWalker maybe next time Steve
