[wdvltalk] Re: MySql table moving

[John Nichel]

Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

No, not contacting the other side...   ...oh, I don't know though.

If I build a table on localhost, can I transfer it, presumably by ftp,
to a database on the isp server? (I know this is a college
question from an infant in the coding scals!!)
Joseph
Technically, yes.  However, chances are, you won't have access to the 
directory where the MySQL databases are set up (this area will be based 
on system permissions, not MySQL permissions).  The proper way to do it 
would be to dump the data and table structure, and import it to your 
ISP's db.  If you have shell access to your ISP, you can use the 
mysqldump feature to both export and import.  Or, I think phpMyAdmin has 
this feature.

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[wdvltalk] Re: undefined variables

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Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

The names are the same as the column heads in the database table..

Or?.
This is not an error.  PHP is just telling you that you're trying to
use

a variable which has no value.


this I understand

 You can change the error reporting level

in the php.ini file, but it would be better coding practice when
taking

form input data to...

a)  Check to see if a variable is set before using it
b)  Be sure you're getting the value you're expecting to ensure that
no

one is trying to circumvent your scripts.


this I don't!How do I approach a)?   Or is it covered By Bj's
advice that the way of doing it is now different?   Remembering I have
downloaded the server programs only a week or so ago and they are
probably very up to date.
For the first item, you can use php's isset() function...

http://us4.php.net/isset

For the second item, no matter how up-to-date your version of php is, 
your code can still be circumvented depending on how (in)securely you 
write your code.  I've sent another email addressing this.

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[wdvltalk] Re: undefined variables

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Bj wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Joseph, Smile Poet"
I admire your perseverance Joe :-)  stick to it and we will make you some
kind of a programmer!

$query="INSERT INTO contacts
VALUES('','$first','$last','$phone','$mobile','$fax','$e-mail','$web')
";


php now installs by default in something called "safe mode" and will no
longer take a form value 'first' and automatically create a variable $first,
as it used to at the time when your tutorial was written.
This is because of register_globals being set to off by default now.

The reason is security - php would take a POST value 'first' from your form
and make it $first, or it would take a GET value 'first' from a querystring
and make it $first, or a cookie called 'first' and make it $first, or a
session variable called $first as well.  The Web page might have already put
the price in $price as $100, along comes sneaky hacker and adds ?price=1 to
the URL of the next page and there goes the data integrity.
So now, all POST variables go into an array called $HTTP_POST_VARS, the
query string into $HTTP_GET_VARS etc and if you want to use the value of the
form field 'first', you have to use $HTTP_POST_VARS["first"]  (note: no
dollar in front of "first" there!)
You can either change your code above to this:

$query="INSERT INTO contacts VALUES(" .
  "'', '$HTTP_POST_VARS["first"], " .
  "$HTTP_POST_VARS["last"], " .
etc
...or just get the values first like this:

$first = $HTTP_POST_VARS["first"];
$last = $HTTP_POST_VARS["last"];
etc
php is trying to get away from $HTTP_GET/POST_VARS.  If you're using a 
version in which globals are off by default, you can use the global 
arrays

$_POST[]
$_GET[]
$_REQUEST[]
So on, and so forth.  To further enhance security, and since this data 
is to be entered into a db, you should add slashes to the user input 
(stops errors when trying to insert data with certain special 
characters, and kills users from hijacking your db)

$first = addslashes ( $_POST['first'] );

Course, it would be easier to write a routine which goes thru the entire 
_POST array to do this

foreach ( $_POST as $key => $value ) {
$$key = addslashes ( $value );
}
Now you will have variable names the same as your form input names, and 
you won't get any Notice's for undefined variables.

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[wdvltalk] Re: undefined variables

[John Nichel]

Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

This bit seems corrected - I had spaces either side of the '=' (which
I am sure I had dealt with).
This will not cause an error.

$foo = "bar";
and...
$foo="bar";
are the same thing.  A space before or after an operator is fine.

But that has brought this:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
(Using password: NO) in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 8
The below errors are a result of the above one, since a connection was 
not established.

Warning: mysql_select_db(): Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
(Using password: NO) in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 9
Warning: mysql_select_db(): A link to the server could not be
established in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 9
failed to select DB
So I am beginning to feel very frustrated;  It seems very difficult to
get a clear, simple description of what is required.   Why is access
denied when no password is in use?Where does ODBC come into it?
Some code would help me tell you why this is happening, but the error 
message is telling you the exact problem.

If you call mysql_connect() with no arguments, php will try to connect 
with the user running the process.  If you meant to use ODBC as your 
user, and sent no password, when that user has a password setup in 
MySQL, you will get this error.  If you set up a user named 'ODBC' in 
MySQL, you need to reload (restart) MySQL or it will not reconize that user.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-connect.php

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[wdvltalk] Re: undefined variables

[John Nichel]

Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

Okay, I might be making progress.But now this:

Notice: Undefined variable: first in
d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: last in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php
on line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: phone in
d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: mobile in
d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: fax in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php
on line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: e in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on
line 10
Notice: Undefined variable: web in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php
on line 10
Which is all the info in the form which has called the script.

So this
$query="INSERT INTO contacts
VALUES('','$first','$last','$phone','$mobile','$fax','$e-mail','$web')
";
Should relate to this


First Name:..
Last Name:..
Phone:.
Mobile:
Fax:...
E-mail:..
Web:


The names are the same as the column heads in the database table..

Or?.
This is not an error.  PHP is just telling you that you're trying to use 
a variable which has no value.  You can change the error reporting level 
in the php.ini file, but it would be better coding practice when taking 
form input data to...

a)  Check to see if a variable is set before using it
b)  Be sure you're getting the value you're expecting to ensure that no 
one is trying to circumvent your scripts.

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[wdvltalk] Re: MySql - extra line

[John Nichel]

Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

David,

I had high hopes, but your version produced this:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
(Using password: YES) in d:\progs\easyphp1-7\www\insert.php on line 8


Okay, that's your error then.  When you setup MySQL, did you give it a 
root password?  If you didn't, don't pass the password argument in then 
connect function.

$conn = mysql_connect ( "localhost", "root" );

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[wdvltalk] Re: MySql - extra line

[John Nichel]

Joseph, Smile Poet wrote:

from this 11 -eleven - line script?
There are errors thoughout this, and php is counting all the lines 
(html, comments, etc.), not just php code.

The database host needs to be a machine name, or IP address.  If the db 
is on the same machine as your php script, "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" 
should work fine.  For future reference, anytime that you would actually 
need to include these slashes in string value (double quoted), you need 
to escape them.  Above is going to escape out the p, e, and the ending 
double quote (causing an error).

mysql_connect(localhost);
If you're tring to use the value you set above, you need to use 
$localhost (notice the dollar sign).  If you pass mysql_connect() only 
the host, it is going to try to connect as the user which your script is 
running as, and a blank password.

$conn = mysql_connect ( $localhost, $username, $password );

If your password is "No", then go ahead and pass the third argument, but 
if you're trying to tell it to use no password there, don't pass it. 
The value for password in the mysql_connect function is not a boolean, 
it's the actual password for that user.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-connect.php

@mysql_select_db($database) or die(no way);
Here, is't best you leave of the at (@) symbol until you get your script 
working.  This symbol will supress error messages.  And, you need to 
quote the output for your die statement.

mysql_select_db ( $database ) or die( "no way" );

Personally, I don't use this function...I include the db name in the 
query...

SELECT * FROM dbName.tableName WHERE foo = 'bar'

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-select-db.php

$query = INSERT INTO contacts VALUES
('','$first','$last','$phone','$mobile','$fax','$e-mail','$web');
Your query needs to be quoted...

$query = "INSERT INTO contacts VALUES 
('','$first','$last','$phone','$mobile','$fax','$e-mail','$web')";

mysql_query($query);
You should check after this statement to see if your query did anything 
with mysql_affected_rows()

http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-affected-rows.php

mysql_close($query) ;;
This is going to give you an error.  $query is not a link identifier for 
the MySQL connection.  If you use a connection like I showed above, you 
would have this as...

mysql_close ( $conn );

Only one semi-colon is needed.

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[wdvltalk] Re: php image size

[John Nichel]

Jon Haworth wrote:

Hi Steve,


[...] storing in a database, but am getting wrong values
which distort the image (usually width too small).


Check which column type you're using in your database - if it's a tinyint in
MySQL, for example, anything over 127 won't be stored correctly (unsigned
smallint is limited to 65535 and would probably be a better bet).
Cheers
Jon
Beat me to it. ;)

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[wdvltalk] Re: php image size

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Steve Miller wrote:

Actually, I already made (and corrected) that mistake!

Must be something obvious, but I don't see it. Last gif I uploaded was
w=242
h=50
but what was stored in the db was
w=127
h=50
???

steve
What's the datatype for the width column?  Some datatypes will only 
store up to 127

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[wdvltalk] Re: Unix and Linux list

[John Nichel]

Cheryl D. Wise wrote:
I'll second that brave soul. I've been trying to get the webserver in OS X
10.2 setup to do something other than just server index.html and other
static pages. Apple's documentation is really piss poor. 

Don't know a whole lot about OS X, but maybe looking at the 
documentation for BSD will help, since it's based on that.

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[wdvltalk] Re: Unix and Linux list

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Erik Carlson wrote:

Thanks Matthew;

Go my Linux and Apache web server up and running with virtual servers. Have
the new Sun Solaris Version 9 for Intel processors with Media kit. I'm
building another computer to put another web server on it. I thought it
would be nice to chat with some linux/unix guru's. I'm going to use my II5
with Windows 2000 for Microsoft type application web development. Three web
servers should be enough for now. :)
Thanks again,

Erik
Also, most Linux distro's have their own mailing lists.  I subscribe to 
both Red Hat and Fedora's

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP variable help (an explanation!)

[John Nichel]

Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 16:42, R'twick Niceorgaw wrote:

Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:


On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 16:21, R'twick Niceorgaw wrote:

$GLOBALS["cfg"]["sitevars"]["variable_name"]
or you can use extract ($GLOBALS) at the begining of each function and 
then use them as
$cfg["sitevars"]["variable_name"]
Works a treat! Thanks for that,

Matt
If you're going to go that route, you might as well turn globals on in 
the php.ini, and throw the security that having it off provides.  I 
suggest you pass the variable to the function.

function foo ( $this_var ) {
do some code with $this_var;
return $this_val;
}
$bar = foo ( $var );

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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP variable help

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Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:

OK, anyone got any ideas why this is returning "false" every time?

$cfg['servervars']['db_name'] = "webcontent";

if(!mysql_select_db($cfg['servervars']['db_name']))
return false;
Is the above if statement inside of a function?

The database is called webcontent and all the username/password settings
are working, so I really don't know what this is!
TIA,

MAtt


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[wdvltalk] RE: Netscape v. Mozilla

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Jan Major wrote:
John Nichel wrote:

7.02 != 7.2

Quick, somebody get this woman some more coffee.  :)

I am assuming that 7.02 = 7.2

Jan
No ma'am.  7.02 would just be a maintenance release (bug fix) prior to 
the release of 7.1

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[wdvltalk] RE: Netscape v. Mozilla

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Jan Major wrote:

Right, I know, I couldn't find it either. I was using NS 7.1,
and I had checked the box about updates. Approx. 3-4 months ago, the 
update dialog box came up with downloading 7.2 and so I downloaded it.
It says that it's installing 7.0 but after it's up and running,
clicking the Help > About brings up the info for NS 7.2:

Netscape 7.02
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 
 Copyright © 2000-2003 Netscape Communications Corporation. Portions of 
this code are copyrighted by Contributors to the Mozilla codebase under 
the Mozilla Public License and Netscape Public License. All Rights 
Reserved.etc., then at the bottom:

This version supports high-grade (128-bit) security with RSA Public Key 
Cryptography, DSA, MD2, MD5, RC2-CBC, RC4, DES-CBC, DES-EDE3-CBC.
Netscape/7.02
7.02 != 7.2

Quick, somebody get this woman some more coffee.  :)

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[wdvltalk] RE: Netscape v. Mozilla

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Jan Major wrote:
John
Ok, I have win XP Pro, and I guess it's an "either/or" situation between 
Mozilla and Netscape.

Jan
I've never used XP, but I think it's the same as Win2k in this respect. 
 You should have a directory on your system here...

C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla

By default, both Netscape and Mozilla use this.  Like I said, in theory 
they should work fine together, but there's always the chance that one 
version is going to mess the other up.

John Nichel wrote:

The problem there lies in the fact that Netscape uses Mozilla 
directories for your files (cache, email, etc.).  I don't know about 
Win9x/Me, but on Win2k and above, and on Linux this is true.  In 
theory, they should be able to share those directories, but this isn't 
always true.  It takes a bit of pointing Netscape somewhere else, but 
you can manually configure all it's paths.


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[wdvltalk] RE: Netscape v. Mozilla

[John Nichel]

Jan Major wrote:
John
I really appreciate the info. The confusion I have is because when I 
downloaded Mozilla 1.5 and installed it on my computer before, it took 
over my Netscape browser and really messed up my email program, along 
with any Netscape 7.2 directory and files I had installed, and screwed 
up my Netscape 7.2 browser so bad I couldn't even use it. I then 
uninstalled Mozilla 1.5, and had to reinstall Netscape 7.2.

I do realize that Netscape won't be creating anymore browser updates,
but I don't want to lose the browser because of installing Mozilla.
I would like to install Mozilla again, but do you or anyone else on the 
list know if there is a way to install Moz 1.5 without messing up my 
Netscape 7.2 files, etc.?

Jan
The problem there lies in the fact that Netscape uses Mozilla 
directories for your files (cache, email, etc.).  I don't know about 
Win9x/Me, but on Win2k and above, and on Linux this is true.  In theory, 
they should be able to share those directories, but this isn't always 
true.  It takes a bit of pointing Netscape somewhere else, but you can 
manually configure all it's paths.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jan,

Mozilla versions do not tally directly with Netscape versions. Mozilla 
is a
browser in its own right. Netscape has been using Mozilla as the 
engine of
its browser from version 6 of Netscape onwards.

I heard recently that new development work on Netscape browsers is to end
altogether anyway. All that will be left of the pioneering company 
will be
the name. A bit sad really, one nil to Bill.

John.


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[wdvltalk] RE: Netscape v. Mozilla

[John Nichel]

Jan Major wrote:
Hi list,
Ok, I admit I'm confused. I have Netscape 7.2 browser on my computer and 
someone explained to me that Netscape 7.2 is actually Mozilla 1.1?

If that's true then Mozilla 1.5 is even more current right?

Jan

Netscape 7.2 is BASED on Mozilla (is it 1.1?  I haven't kept track in 
ages).  Mozilla 1.5 being more current than Netscape 7.2 would have to 
deal with what changes were made in Mozilla between 1.1 and 1.5, and if 
those changes affected the Netscape build.

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[wdvltalk] Re: Recommendation needed

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Pace Computing Limited wrote:
Makes me want an Apple soo bad!

Jenni

Sorry, we only have Oranges.

Keep your PC, and give it the power of the mighty penguin. :)

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[wdvltalk] RE: php uploading

[John Nichel]

Steve,

  Not that this isn't a good list, but you'd probably find a solution 
to your problem quicker on a php-list.  Take a look here...

http://us3.php.net/mailing-lists.php

And the list that would help you the most would be the "General user 
list" under the "General mailing lists for PHP users" heading.  I just 
browsed your emails on this topic, but I can say that since you're using 
a php version greater than 4.2, the globals is a good place for you to 
start ($_POST, $_GET, $_FILES, $_SESSION, $_SERVER, etc.)

Steve Miller wrote:

Hmmm...never thought of that. For now, to get everything to work, I am
hard-coding the names of the fields into the script, but it is not what I
want to do in the end. I have to make this up-gradeable, and hard-coding is
not the way to go.
After I have all working, I'll take a look at using $GLOBALS.

Thanks for all your help.

Steve



Steve;

I've checked the argument list output of a PHP form program and is same as
PERL, so you're good there. PHP uses collections, where the variable of your
program are stored in $GLOBALS. Have you thought of referencing the
information the following way? Using the form names themselves as indexes to
$GLOBALS to extract their values?
foreach ($GLOBALS as $Key=>$Value) /* every variable */
{
if this value then upload code
if this then, etc
}


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[wdvltalk] RE: Linux Lovers - Read this!

[John Nichel]

Galatek Webmaster wrote:

i was under the belief/[knowledge] that you could obtain Mandrake, Redhat,
Gentoo, or other linuxes for free anyway if you didnt mind not getting the
tech support or product cds and manuals.. hmm.. sounds like a more cost
effective plan to me
You can, via download.  I don't know about Mandrake, but Red Hat 9 is 
three CD's.  So if you don't have the time (or the bandwidth) to 
download almost 2gigs, ten bucks isn't a bad price.

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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 7:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Linux Lovers - Read this!
I just purchased the Premier 2003 Vol. 1 Issue 1 of LinuxWorld
Magazine at my local Krogers.  It ran $9.99 US, but included
their Linux Resource DVD with a claimed value of $198.  The DVD
contains what appears to be a full install of Mandrake Linux
version 9.1 with all the RPMs!  That alone is worth more than
the price of the magazine, IMHO.  Just thought I'd pass this
along for those looking for an inexpensive distro without the
need to download. :)
Cheers,
Tom Fosson
?
What did an average guy do online last month that
just earned him $12,540, and allowed him to *fire
his boss* with his future earnings?
  http://tomfosson.com/answer.htm
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[wdvltalk] Re: php and sendmail

[John Nichel]

Steve Miller wrote:
Hi all,

I have written a small php script which pulls email addresses (about 1000)
from my online db and sends a small html email newsletter (this is not spam
but a weekly member update). Normally, I would not worry about having enough
time to loop 1000 times through a section of a script. However, since this
must connect to sendmail each time through, I am concerned because there is
a 30 second serverside script timeout.
First, you should cut down on how many times you have to touch sendmail. 
 Instead of sending one email for each user, why not throw 10 users 
into the bcc field (keep that number low to stay below SPAM software, 
and in bcc, it hides the email addresses from the other receiptents)

Questions:
1) should I be concerned about a timeout, or does connecting to sendmail not
affect the run speed of the loop
It all depends on the sendmail queue.  1000 emails isn't much (100 is 
even easier if you do 10 bcc's at a time), so it shouldn't hurt, but you 
can override this.  You can either use an "ini_set" in your script, or a 
.htaccess file to override php's default.

2) this is on a remote shared webserver on which I only have access to my
domain via telnet. Is there a way to view sendmail logs to see if everything
went?
Depends on how the company has them set up.  Look in /var/log.

Thanks for any guidance,

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[wdvltalk] Re: Calling NS Users

[John Nichel]

Linda Cole wrote:
Ooops.  Told ya I was brain dead. :)I've changed permissions on 
http://dickson-online.com/index.php?module=pnAddressBook&func=main so 
anyone an add an address.  The smiatek site example works for non-members.

Thanks,
Linda
At 11:41 PM 6/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Linda Cole wrote:

I don't think I explained very well. Chalk it up to senility, poor 
communication skills, brain dead.Could you go to 
http://dickson-online.com/index.php?module=pnAddressBook&func=main and
http://smiatek.com/index.php?module=pnAddressBook&func=main in NS and 
click on the "Add new address" link and tell me if you get a page or 
a 'no dns entry' error?
Thanks,
Linda


I don't see a link for add new address.  Is this something you have to 
be logged in to see?  Prehaps you can set up a test account for us?

It worked fine for me.  Netscape 7.02

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[wdvltalk] Re: Servers: Unix vs. Windows

[John Nichel]

Jan Major wrote:
John,
Regarding this sentence:
I've yet to see a MS feature that you can't incorporate into 
*nix (including ASP and .NET) 

Is there any way to incorporate ASP and .NET into a MS server?

Of course, as you can see, I want it all, and if I cannot incorporate 
*nix features into a MS server, then I will have to do some changing.

Jan
---
I've never tried it, but there's Apache ASP

http://www.apache-asp.org/

And there are a few howto's for .NET (I've never used that before 
either, so I can't say which site is more useful)

http://www.google.com/search?q=howto+%22Microsoft+.NET%22+linux&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1

Some say that php4 already works with .NET, and I know it's incorporated 
into php5.

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[wdvltalk] Re: dedicated IP address vs shared IP address

[John Nichel]

Not really a downgrade.  There shouldn't be any effect on performance to 
the naked eye, as long as the hardware can handle it (not that shared 
IP's require better / faster hardware).  It suprises me that it's taken 
your hosting provider this long to make the switch, as it's less of a 
headache for the admins.  One config file for apache, one NIC for the 
box, etc.  The place which hosts my sites currently has over a hundred 
domains on the box with mine, all on one IP, and I've seen no trouble 
with it.

K. F. Wu wrote:
Hi,

Kind of IT related question: what's difference between a dedicated IP 
and a shared IP in terms of website performance?  The reason to ask: my 
web host is to "upgrade" server and change the dedicated IP to shared IP 
for my website. Is this a "downgrade" instead of upgrade?  Thanks for 
clearing my head up.

KoaFar

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[wdvltalk] RE: Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter????

[John Nichel]

And if that goes unanswered, go up the chain.  Check the email headers 
to notify the people whos servers the email is being sent from / routed 
through.

Debra Meadows wrote:
Hi Maverick,

You can forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], this goes to the system
admin. Depending on the company's TOS, they could warn and/or delete the
abuser's account.
Deb

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Unwanted E-Mails (Spam) Filter

Hello Friends,

I am getting unwanted emails which talks about "Viagra online" "Enlarge
size" and all possible cheap mails.
Can any one suggest the best way to tackle them and tell me how to handle
these?
I am curious, How this anti-Spam software works!!  I am using dial-up
connection from my residence. Can anyone suggest the best solution to this.
I don't want to waste time online to filter the mails. Can I send the
unwanted mails, I mean bounce back to sender so that they might do something
about this.
Any / every suggestion / advice is appreciated.

Rgds
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[wdvltalk] Re: Killing an ant with a hammer...

[John Nichel]

I use Jasc's Animation Studio (comes with Paint Shop Pro), and it works 
quite well.  You can download an evaluation version that's fully 
functional, and won't put anything extra into your gif.

http://www.jasc.com

Dave Sebaste wrote:
Hi Friends,

I made this cute little Flash movie that works just fine... then realized it
was really overkill, and an animated GIF would do the job equally well, and
much more efficiently. I haven't messed with animated GIFs in quite some
time, so I started looking at my array of tools.
I have a downloaded shareware program that, until purchased, puts a
watermark in the midst of your image. I also have Photoshop, Illustrator,
FreeHand, CorelDraw, PhotoDraw and Flash, but it seems none of these do an
effective job at creating an animated GIF... even if I already have the two
GIF files that just need to be sequenced. One of the problems is that I want
to designate the background color of the GIF as being transparent. Some of
these programs support transparency in GIFs, but I can't figure out how to
designate the transparent color.
Am I missing something here? Any help?  From vaguely recalled previous
experiences, it shouldn't be this difficult!
TIA,

Dave

Dave Sebaste
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[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please

[John Nichel]

Me thinks you missed the stabs at humor by the athiests.  We're a funny 
group...you should take the time to get to know us...as long as you 
don't mind sharing your bloodoh wait, that's the vampires.

Diane Schips wrote:
Damn, now I wish I had actually looked at the site.  Would the site offend
me as an Atheist?
Any reasonable person would be offended.  Everything on the site was
offensive.  It was intended to be offensive, and I don't think it was
intended to be taken seriously.  I don't find it funny, so I won't go back,
and that's the end of it for me, at least unless and until someone suggests
that these sentiments are reasonable.  I don't think the site is suggesting
that.  What Amazon does about it is their own business.
As an athiest I find the Christian faith offensive.
And who are you?   Just because you don't believe God exists, doesn't mean
that he or she doesn't.  And just because someone else is absolutely
convinced of the existence of God doesn't mean he or she does exist.  Then
there are those who remain polytheistic.  Certainly as a Jew I have a
different perspective than either you or a Christian.  What I find offensive
are beliefs that preclude other beliefs, or people who are offended by what
other people believe.  I don't know why you made your statement.  Maybe it
was just a reaction to some other extreme comments that had been made.
Diane
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[wdvltalk] RE: [Fwd: Internet.com list support]

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Hope they don't send anything important with that subject linesince 
 I now have anyting with that subject going to /dev/null  :)

Cheryl D. Wise wrote:
You are not alone. I've gotten one for every post in the last 36 hours.

Cheryl D. Wise
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Why do I get this email everytime I send one to this list?

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[wdvltalk] [Fwd: Internet.com list support]

[John Nichel]

Why do I get this email everytime I send one to this list?

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[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please

[John Nichel]

%> tar -xvf CanOfWorms.tar
%> cat CanOfWorms | more
Okay, okay...I'll stop.

Ben Joyce wrote:
As an athiest I find the Christian faith offensive.

/me runs


-Original Message-
From: John Nichel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 February 2003 18:14
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Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please

Damn, now I wish I had actually looked at the site.  Would the site 
offend me as an Atheist?

Gerenday, Perry (P.) wrote:

Will Stewart wrote:





As a Christian, I find that site extremely offensive.


Shame on you for promoting such a site of


religious bigotry and racial slurs.


You ought to be kicked off the list for this.




Will,

I hear that, from a Christian point of reference, you find the 
Landover site extremely offensive. I see that you are 
casting shame on 

BJ for promoting the site, and you think he should be 
kicked off this 

list for his post.



I am also a Christian. There are many on this list who are 
Christians. 

There are many on this list who hold other religious 
beliefs, and some 

that share no religious beliefs at all. I don't come to this list 
seeking Christian connection, that is because it's a web developers 
list. I don't think you'll get many followers prepared to 
cast BJ out 

into the darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of 
teeth, on a 

webdev mailing list for submitting posts that don't support your 
religious/moral beliefs. Now if his post, like this one, 
was off topic 

from webdev, there might be more of an outcry.



Perry Gerenday

www.klugelab.com

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[wdvltalk] RE: [OT] New Virus?

[John Nichel]

I respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you wrote.  Being a 
sysadmin for a company where I have to secure both Microsoft and *nix 
boxes, I can tell you that there is a MAJOR difference in the security 
levels of these two different OS's.  However, I'm going to leave it at 
that, and not get into a war of Linux vs. Windows here, as it's been 
hashed over too many times already.

Dave Swanson wrote:
*GROAN*

There have been numerous viruses built specifically for Linux, just to prove
that it can be done. There have also been viruses that can infect both
Windows and Linux platforms. The only reason that Linux has the perception
of security is because of the limmited exposure and market saturation it
enjoys. Being second place means that you don't have to put up with all the
nasty lights that make you such a pretty, juicy target for any and all who
want to attack you. Guarantee you that if Linux was at saturation we'd be
seeing the same levels of security exploits and virus propagation that we
see in the Windows environment. 

*Ahem* 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [OT] New Virus?


Of course, there is the pinnacle of anti-virus software

http://www.redhat.com  :)

Mark Groen wrote:

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As always make sure your Anti Virus definitions are up to date!



AVG available free from grisoft.com is excellent



	AVG is very easy on your machine too if you are running older boxes


with 

limited resources. Of course you could drop M$ email software and not run


any 

antivirus gumbo period. Check out pmail.com, thebat.com or eudora.com

Regards,

	Mark Groen

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February 18, 2003 at 22:05, Dave 

Sebaste wrote:




style="font-size:10pt">> >As always 

make sure your Anti Virus definitions are up to date!



style="font-size:10pt">>> AVG available 

free from grisoft.com is excellent




style="font-size:10pt">AVG is very 

easy on your machine too if you are running older boxes with 
limited resources. Of course you could drop M$ email software and not run

any 

antivirus gumbo period. Check out pmail.com, thebat.com or


eudora.com






style="font-size:10pt">Regards,






style="font-size:10pt">Mark
Groen




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[wdvltalk] RE: grabbing referrer details in php/mysql

[John Nichel]

Keep in mind that REFERER isn't always set by the refering server.

Melanie Phair wrote:

Thanks Jon.

That works a treat.  I also altered the code and replaced a php file 
on my site that is returned by Google and yep, the url is returned in 
full.

Now all I have to do is work out why my code doesn't work 

You may hear from me again some time soon.

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[wdvltalk] Re: PHP form and email question

[John Nichel]

Try...

if ( isset ( $_POST['Email'] ) ) {
	code;
	code;
}

or

if ( $_POST['Email'] != "" ) {
	code;
	code;
}

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Howdy Folks, 
Seems like someone addressed this topic recently, but I can't find the
thread...

We have a form page which submits variables to FormMail.pl for routing to
the page owner.

What we want is to also send a customized reply ('Thankyou') email back to
the user. My thought was to add a PHP email script which is triggered
if(isset($Email)) where $Email is the user's email address input to the
form.

The logic of the process is escaping me. 
I can get it to pass variables, but not send mail. 
I can get it to send mail, but not pass variables. UUGH! 

I have the form action set to $PHP_SELF to resubmit the form to itself.
The reasoning is so that $Email becomes set, and it will trigger the PHP
Email script. However, I can't seem to get the form variables to then
submit to FormMail.pl

I remember something about a solution involving javascript and using: 
  myform.action=".../cgi-bin/FormMail.pl"
  myform.submit(); 

to trigger the form submission, but then, what triggers the javascript
function??

Thank you for any assistance/suggestions! 

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[wdvltalk] Re: .htaccess help please | another question

[John Nichel]

.htaccess isn't going to help you here.  If you want to do it via your 
webserver (I assume Apache), it needs to have the mod_rewrite module 
installed, and you would have to put the directive in your httpd.conf.

If you have write access to your httpd.conf file, and the ability to 
restart the server, you could just point the document root for 
"designers" to the same document root as "developers".

There's no rule stopping you from doing a redirect.  You can use 
something like a meta refresh, or using php's header functions.

puterbug.com wrote:
At 07:04 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote:


I *think* I need to use a line in my .htaccess file.




H, ya know it sure seems easier to just point:
http://web-designers-corner.puterbug.com

to:

http://web-developers-corner.puterbug.com

as if it were it's own website, but I would imagine that won't work, heh?

Anybody know of any Internet "laws" that would prohibit me from
doing so?

Thanks,
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[wdvltalk] Re: php POST blues...

[John Nichel]

Belay my last post.  BJ was right...$_POST is an associative array, so 
it won't be indexed by numbers.

John Nichel wrote:
for ( $ = 0; $_POST[$i]; $i++ ) {
echo ( $_POST[$i] . "\n" );
}

Ben Joyce wrote:


hi Bj.

Yeah, I figured it out using that a minute or so ago... but I'm sure 
there
should be another way of doing it by enumerating the array like this:

for($i=0;$i < count($_POST); $i++)
{
print $_POST[$i];
}

or similar.

just a thought.

cheers for the reply anyhow!

 .b(J)


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- Original Message -
From: "Ben Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


got a slight problem with some PHP code, I am totally 


baffled as have done


this loads of tiems before... perhaps I am too tired to 


code, but anyway,


here is the deal:

I'm tryign to enumerate the variables int eh $_POST array using the
following:



foreach ($_POST as $postField = > $postValue)
   print "POST field $postField = '$postValue'";


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[wdvltalk] Re: php POST blues...

[John Nichel]

for ( $ = 0; $_POST[$i]; $i++ ) {
	echo ( $_POST[$i] . "\n" );
}

Ben Joyce wrote:

hi Bj.

Yeah, I figured it out using that a minute or so ago... but I'm sure there
should be another way of doing it by enumerating the array like this:

for($i=0;$i < count($_POST); $i++)
{
	print $_POST[$i];
}

or similar.

just a thought.

cheers for the reply anyhow!

 .b(J)



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- Original Message -
From: "Ben Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

got a slight problem with some PHP code, I am totally 

baffled as have done


this loads of tiems before... perhaps I am too tired to 

code, but anyway,


here is the deal:

I'm tryign to enumerate the variables int eh $_POST array using the
following:



foreach ($_POST as $postField = > $postValue)
   print "POST field $postField = '$postValue'";


Bj



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[wdvltalk] Re: A recap

[John Nichel]

  My story starts all the way back in the early 80's.  It was Christmas 
of '80 or '82 when I got an Atari 600XL for a present, and taught myself 
BASIC.  I was hooked on computers for the next few years, but kind of 
lost touch in '86 when I went into the Navy.  I got out of the service 
in '92, and worked as an electrician up until January of '96 when I had 
an accident on the job, resulting in a two broken vertebrae.  While I 
was laid up, a friend of mine brought me an old (old now) 486DX/66 to 
help me pass the days.  Running Windows 3.1 and Netscape 3.01 Gold 
(remember those?), I stumbled onto Geocities, and signed up for my "very 
own home page".

  Back when I was playing around with BASIC, I was never satisfied with 
something just worked...I wanted to know the how's and why's, and I 
wanted to know how to write it myself.  This same feeling held true when 
I made my first site.  Lying around the house for 8 months with my 
injury, I spent about every waking minute learning HTML and JavaScript.

  In October of '96, I was informed about an entry level web job at a 
place called T.C. Computers here in New Orleans.  I applied for it, got 
it, and was making $8.00 an hour keeping a company's site updated. 
During my first two years there, I started getting more and more 
interested in not only the Open Source movement, but the back end of web 
development, and less interested in layout / design.  By the time 
Insight bought out T.C. Computers in 1998, I was already quite an 
proficient Perl programmer, and fairly versed with PostgreSQL.

  In October of '99, Insight decided to close down T.C. in New Orleans, 
and move the whole operation to Phoenix, AZ.  Shortly after arriving in 
Arizona, I was put in the lead of a team charged with converting 
Insight's web site, done in a legacy, in-house programming language over 
to php.  Prior to this, I had never really heard of php, but quickly 
fell in love with it.  Once that project was done, I was tasked with 
coordinating the web side integration of the new order processing system 
that was being written in Java, which helped me learn not only some 
Java, but how to code better using OOP in php.

  This new knowledge helped me land a job back in Louisiana for a 
company who needed someone to revamp their IT department, specifically 
their programming style (bring them out of the dark ages as the CTO told 
me).  After a year of fighting with old school scripters, we are at 
today where my team and I have converted old Perl scripts, some asp, and 
alot of SSI over to a php middle tier, and a C++ back end, with well 
documented code, strict coding standards, and fine tuned scope documents 
for all projects.

  All because of Geocities, Rush, Mt. Dew, and an on the job injury. 
Who would have thunk it?

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[wdvltalk] Re: ||Web Content Developer / Web Designer||

[John Nichel]

It all depends on the company, but for the most part a Web Designer is 
responsible for the layout / graphical design of the site.  The last 
place I worked classified me as a Web Developer II, and my 
responsibility was creating middle tier and back-end applications for 
things such as the database abstraction layer, and order processing 
system.  The Web Developer I at that company was responsible for things 
like product description, and page content.  The company I'm at now, I'm 
called a Web Programmer, but my job is pretty much the same.

Abigail Marshall wrote:
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, 3:55:43 AM, astralgirl ... commented:

a> A web content developer sounds more like a programmer to me.

No, a web content developer is the person who decides what
TEXT and resources are going on the web site.

The designer is doing graphics, layout, navigation, etc. -
the content developer is filling it all in.

And it is very possible to be both - I am - but generally
that would happen if 1 person works for a company that is
large enough for "running the website" to be a full time
job, but small enough that the job can be handled by one
person.

I call myself "webmaster" or sometimes "internet information
services director" when I want to get fancy, and in my job I
am responsible for everything from running the servers to
programming and coding the sites to putting up content.
Sometimes I create my own content (I write an article and
post it), sometimes I modify something else that is already
written, sometimes my company sends me something and says
"put it on the website" and I just figure out where it ought
to go. I also answer or redirect most of the email that
comes into the site, too - :)

It's great fun, but it means I have to know my company's
business the same way I would if I were managing a
real-world store or retail outlet.  I can do this because of
the way my position developed - I was an office manager for
the company and also edited their newsletter, and once upon
a time the website was just one more little thing I was
supposed to be in charge of. The website grew and grew and
gobbled up all my time, but it was my favorite thing, and
also the one part of my job I was really good at, so now I'm
in charge of all-things-internet-related and not much else.


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[wdvltalk] Re: bit urgent - how to restart 'named'?

[John Nichel]

I'm not sure about Mandrake, but on RedHat, you could use the init 
script

/etc/rc.d/init.d/named start

Roel wrote:
Hello Everybody,

  How do I restart 'named' on a mandrake 7.2 system to which I have
  root-access through ssh?

  Rebooting the machine is not an option.

  Can somebody give me the appropriate command, so I can put it in a
  cron job?

  and before someone says rtm, there are no man pages for named on
  that server, and I can't seem to find it on the internet :-)
  
  Thanks already!



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[wdvltalk] Re: Sun Gets Injunction in Microsoft Case

[John Nichel]

Front end web / server side scripting, yes...Java doesn't have much use, 
with advancements in languages like php which were created with the web 
in mind.  I wouldn't be suprised to see jsp go the way of the Dodo. 
When we converted our site from an in-house legacy scripting language 
(written in C), jsp and php were our final two contenders.  We chose php 
in the end for a couple of reasons...can handle pretty much anything jsp 
does, easier for a bunch of C / Perl programmers to learn, scalability, 
cost, and other items.  However, Java is our whole back end...the order 
processing system, system tools, etc.  Java works flawlessly in this aspect.

If you're talking about Java Apps such as Windows programs, that's 
debatable.  Those type of apps run well and fast in the *nix world, but 
in the Win world they seem to be prone to crashes and are slow.  Knowing 
M$'s tactics, and their feeling about Java, I would hesitate in placing 
the blame for this solely in Sun's corner.

If you're talking about back end apps, then you couldn't be any further 
from the truth.  Java is pretty much the language of choice for places 
that have to deal with intensive data processing / manuplation.

Pointing out mobile phones only stresses the strength of Java, that it 
can run almost anywhere, on anything.  Of course, I haven't taken my 
Atari 800XL out of the closet to see if Java will run on it. :)

Ben Joyce wrote:
Java seems dead in the water as far as web (it's an overkill) and
application (it's too slow) are concerned.  However, should expect Java
applications and games on mobile phones to do rather well.



-Original Message-
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Sent: 27 December 2002 16:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Sun Gets Injunction in Microsoft Case


Well, most of his points are valid...just his method of delivery is a 
bit off.  I noticed a couple of people on this list talking about how 
Java was dead, or how it was useless.  Those people are either 
mis-informed, or M$ sheep.  While I will agree that Java has 
no place on 
HTLM pages (to make snazzy (is that a word) menus, or fancy 
slide shows 
for images), Java is far from dead.  I think that most of the 
people on 
this list just never really work with middle tier or back end 
applications to actually experience the power of Java.

This thread could go on and on with people flaming about how Java is 
better than .NET, or how .NET is better than Java (I've never 
used .NET, 
so I can't make an educated comparrison), but where would 
that get us? 
Water off a ducks back.

Stephen Caudill wrote:

Ross, 
 No fault on your part, Peter only pops up once or twice a 

month to 

start flame wars and brag profusely about skills we mortals 

can't conceive...



You know, I have never seen a URL in one of his sigs or any other 
supporting evidence that he actually does anything but 

spout acronyms 

and buzz words, most often with poor grammar.  If I am 

wrong on this, 

I will happily eat my hat.  Otherwise, I would prefer to hear a lot 
less from Mr. Kinev unless he decides to be helpful and 

contribute to 

this community. 

/me feels better having said that

Apologies,
Stephen Caudill
http://neohero.municode.com





Peter:

Whoa there!!

Never meant to get anybody's back up, it's just that in my
experience I've
never seen or needed to touch Java and as a result never 
bothered to dig too
deep.


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[wdvltalk] Re: Sun Gets Injunction in Microsoft Case

[John Nichel]

Well, most of his points are valid...just his method of delivery is a 
bit off.  I noticed a couple of people on this list talking about how 
Java was dead, or how it was useless.  Those people are either 
mis-informed, or M$ sheep.  While I will agree that Java has no place on 
HTLM pages (to make snazzy (is that a word) menus, or fancy slide shows 
for images), Java is far from dead.  I think that most of the people on 
this list just never really work with middle tier or back end 
applications to actually experience the power of Java.

This thread could go on and on with people flaming about how Java is 
better than .NET, or how .NET is better than Java (I've never used .NET, 
so I can't make an educated comparrison), but where would that get us? 
Water off a ducks back.

Stephen Caudill wrote:
Ross, 
  No fault on your part, Peter only pops up once or twice a month to start flame wars and brag profusely about skills we mortals can't conceive...  


You know, I have never seen a URL in one of his sigs or any other supporting evidence that he actually does anything but spout acronyms and buzz words, most often with poor grammar.  If I am wrong on this, I will happily eat my hat.  Otherwise, I would prefer to hear a lot less from Mr. Kinev unless he decides to be helpful and contribute to this community.


/me feels better having said that

Apologies,
Stephen Caudill
http://neohero.municode.com



Peter:

Whoa there!!

Never meant to get anybody's back up, it's just that in my 
experience I've
never seen or needed to touch Java and as a result never 
bothered to dig too
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[wdvltalk] Re: php-editors

[John Nichel]

UltraEdit for windoze (it's small, fast, and highlights just about any 
language out there) http://www.idmcomp.com or http://www.ultraedit.com

Quanta for Linux(because you'd have to run wine on Linux to use 
UltraEdit) http://quanta.sourceforge.net

Roel wrote:
Hello Everybody,

  I'm looking for some good php-editors, both under win & linux...

  Required item: syntax highlighting.

  Which ones do you recommend (and why)?

  tia :-)



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[wdvltalk] Re: How to track the file is downloaded successfully?

[John Nichel]

You'll need to use a server side language (php, perl, jsp, etc.), and 
something like sessions.

Elan wrote:
Hi All,

I kept all the downloadable files in separate folder on the server. When
the user  request for any of the file,  window will pop up and saying where
you want to save.
   There is a lot of possibility it won't complete the download properly
like due to the bandwidth, or user may cancel the download etc...
My concern is how the server will know whether the user has downloaded
the file successfully. Is there any way we track on this.

If any link or idea would be great.

Thanks in advance.
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[wdvltalk] Re: htaccess & mysql

[John Nichel]

Okay, these are two different things here.  Which one is giving you the 
problem?

The .htaccess validation is when the window pops up on your screen 
asking for your username / password.  If you cancel it, or enter the 
wrong combination too many times, you get a 401 error.  This has nothing 
to do with your database validation.

cyberkate wrote:
Can you post the relevant bit of code? There are a couple of PERL gurus on
this list



From .htaccess


AuthName "Foo"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /myfoopath/.htpasswd

require valid-user



From upload.pl


use vars qw(%FORM $domain $dbuser $dbpass $dbh $imagedir $db);
my $rawuser = $cgi->param('user');
my $pass = $cgi->param('pass');
my $pic = $cgi->param('pic');



if ($rawuser eq "" || $pass eq "") { error("You didn't enter
username/password!"); }


sub validate {

$dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:mysql:$db:$domain",$dbuser,$dbpass) or
error("Connect error $DBI::errstr");

my $password = crypt($pass, 'az');

$SQL = "SELECT user_id FROM Users WHERE username = '$username' AND password
= '$password'";
 $query = $dbh->prepare($SQL) or error("prepare");
 $query->execute or error("execute");
 $id = $query->fetchrow_array();
 $query->finish;

 if ($id eq "") { error("Username/Password not found!"); }


There is one thing that might explain it is that I not include the .htgroup
element when these users were registered, however it shouldn't have stopped
mid-session, I think, even with this omission, in fact I don't think that
this element was ever included, but it was working for a long time before
October, but I ca't remember and the backups shed no light as I did not
backup this 1 (possibly 2 file ) dir. The .htpasswrd file has the correct
time stamp too.
- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: htaccess & mysql




Hi Kate,



The database password reconciles with the .htpassword
too, so does that eliminate my code too?


Database password? I thought you were doing .htaccess/.htpasswd
authentication?

I've probably misunderstood something...

Are you just storing the passwords in a database for reference, or are you
authenticating against the database?



The only thing that that coincides with the breakdown
was the upload.pl, worked last night, fell over today.


Can you post the relevant bit of code? There are a couple of PERL gurus on
this list (not me, though)

It might be helpful if you could post the .htaccess file as well in case
there's a problem there.


Cheers
Jon

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[wdvltalk] Re: [wdvltalk].htaccess & mysql

[John Nichel]

cyberkate wrote:

Greetings all,
I am at a loss to understand why my passwords work only once. It is a basic
.htaccess .htpassword routine, and it worked properly for quite a while. I
am advised that the password file will get damaged if uploaded, is this
right?


Not to my knowledge, but I guess it's possible.  It's just an ASCII 
file, and should be uploaded as such, but if your ftp program is set to 
convert files between *nix and Windoze, that could mess it up.

This hasn't occurred this time (yes I did do this when this problem
started :-( ). Could the MYSQL database cause damage to this file?


As long as you're not storing it in a BLOB.  Then again, BLOB is just 
binary safe, so that shouldn't effect it either.

It is possible too that a file upload by the test user could somehow effect the
process.


No web users should have write access to your .htaccess files. 
Depending on your access to the server, no one needs to have write 
permission (if you have root on the box).

I am locked out of my site that has been my obsession for a long
long time, and was so close to opening . Please help. Even shot in the dark
questions might help me.


Do you have shell access?  It would be best to create the file on the 
server instead of on some other box, then uploading it.

./htpasswd -c htaccess_file_path_name username

Above to create new users.

HTH

Thanking you in advance.
Cyberkate


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[wdvltalk] Re: ASP or PHP

[John Nichel]

Speed
Multi-OS Use
Multi-Web Server Use
Native Support For Numerous Db's
Better OO Support (Can You Write OO ASP?)
Better Support
Easier Integration With Other Technologies
It's Not From Micro$oft. :)

Siobhan Thomas wrote:

Why would anyone opt to switch from an asp site to a php one? Would 
there be any value? (Jon I'm sure you'll have something to say about 
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[wdvltalk] Re: MySQL in different folder

[John Nichel]

Also, you can put a file called "my.cnf" on your C drive...

C:\my.cnf

In that file, put this...

[mysqld]
basedir=D:/path_to_mysql

Again, change D to the proper drive letter, and use a forward slash, 
instead of Windoze's normal backwards slash.  The path will end in the 
folder you installed it too.  If you installed mysql in 
D:\programs\webstuff\mysql then put that as your basedir, with no 
trailing slash.

HTH

Eddie Castelli wrote:
Hallo John, 

 --->>> John Nichel / Freitag 15.11.2002, 19:14:28
MySQL in different folder


Sorry for only answering now - I've being at a nice birthday party.



Windows world, so I may not be able to help you too much, but let's
see...




What's not working about it? Does the server start? Can you not
connect to it? Something else?



When I start mySQLadmin the 'red' light stays on. When I want to start
mysql.exe it wont do it - just getting a beeb back. As I wrote before,
when I install mySQL in the standard path (which is c:\mysql) all
works fine; mySQLadmin and mysql.exe can be started.





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[wdvltalk] Re: MySQL in different folder

[John Nichel]

Try starting it like this...

C:\> D:\path_to_mysql\bin\mysqld --basedir D:\path_to_mysql

Replace D with the drive letter that you have it installed on.

Eddie Castelli wrote:

Hallo John, 

 --->>> John Nichel / Freitag 15.11.2002, 19:14:28
MySQL in different folder


Sorry for only answering now - I've being at a nice birthday party.



Windows world, so I may not be able to help you too much, but let's
see...




What's not working about it? Does the server start? Can you not
connect to it? Something else?



When I start mySQLadmin the 'red' light stays on. When I want to start
mysql.exe it wont do it - just getting a beeb back. As I wrote before,
when I install mySQL in the standard path (which is c:\mysql) all
works fine; mySQLadmin and mysql.exe can be started.





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[wdvltalk] Re: need a javascript

[John Nichel]

a href="mailto:someone@;somewhere.com?subject=My 
Subject&body=http://www.thisurl.com";

puterbug.com wrote:
Hi,

I have my own image that I want to use as a link image for a button
"email this page to a friend."

I hunted high and low overnight on the Internet looking for a javascript 
that would do
the following:

1) open visitors email program
2) fill in the subj line with subj of my choice
3) plunk the url to the page the visitor wants to send to their email 
friend
in the body of the email message which means this javascript has to
know what page the visitor is wanting to send

I found several scripts that will do what I need it to do but they are 
all forms and I don't want a form,
I want to use my image as a link button image.

Can someone direct me to where I might find such a script?

Thanks!
Deb
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[wdvltalk] RE: Cheap photo prog

[John Nichel]

Paint Shop Pro

http://www.jasc.com

Casey Crookston wrote:

What is PSP?



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[wdvltalk] RE: ETHICS: Should I tell them their web site is insecure?

[John Nichel]

Let's say you have a table in your MySQL database for users on your 
site, and that table has a field to represent site admins. 0 = not 
admin, 1 = admin.  Your sql to add users to the database is something 
like this

INSERT INTO `users` ( `username` `password` `admin` )
	VALUES ( $username, PASSWORD($password), 0 );

This sets all new users to "not admin" status.  Now when I sign up on 
your site, you're not checking for malicious form inputs, so I fill out 
the username field like this

jnichel, PASSWORD('password'), 1);#

What I've done, is set $username to the above, and the pound sign I 
added at the end of the username string has made the rest of YOUR sql 
query a comment.  I just made myself a site admin.

Casey Crookston wrote:
Question:  What is an SQL injection crack, and what did this developer
do wrong to make his site so crackable?

I want to be sure I'm not doing the same thing.

Casey




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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:51 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] ETHICS: Should I tell them their web site is
insecure?


Here's the situation.

Several months ago I was contacted by a potential client about doing a
web site for them. They wanted to provide a service through their web
site for which they would charge and accept payment via credit cards.

Long story shortened: I didn't get the job. I inquired a couple of
times, but was never re-contacted. I figured they just weren't going to
do it.

Well, they did do it, but had someone else program it. I was somewhat
miffed that they used someone else.

I was looking around the "free" area and noticed numerous spelling,
grammatical, and other errors. It hit me how unprofessional the job was;
and wondered just exactly how secure it was.

It was _very_ insecure. The web site was wide open to SQL injection
cracks. We're talking script-monkey easy.

There for the taking are all of their customer's names, addresses, id's
and passwords, SSN's, phone numbers, *CREDIT CARD NUMBERS AND EXPIRATION
DATES* with billing addresses.

Do I tell them? My initial reaction was to tell them. My main motivation
was "See what you got? You're gonna get hacked." I can tell them they
have a problem and here's what people can do. If you want me to tell you
how to fix it, that's gonna cost you.

I bounced this off some people whose opinion I deeply respect, but who
have no Internet law knowledge. The consensus is that I _had_ to tell
them they were vulnerable. I wasn't required to fix it for free or tell
them why they were vulnerable; but I had an ethical mandate to alert
them, because innocent people could get hurt.

But, if I tell them, they are going to want to know how I know. I
cracked into their web site. Although I would never use such
information, it could be argued that I performed an illegal activity
just by checking.

Other than checking with my lawyer, which I am already going to do, does
anyone have any suggestions? Anyone ever been in  a similar situation.

J.R.


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