[Wiki Loves Monuments] Nominations: 2 more days before the deadline, 18 countries missing
Hi all, the deadline for the nominations for the international finale is approaching rapidly. 2 more days (deadline is 31 October at 23:59 UTC). I would like to repeat this is a hard deadline. Missing it might result in having no nominations at all for your country! The following countries still did not nominate any pictures for the international finale according to my administration: 1. Andorra 2. Argentina 3. Austria 4. Belarus 5. Belgium Luxembourg; public announcement: 30 November 6. Chile 7. Colombia 8. France 9. Ghana 10. Israel 11. Kenya 12. Luxembourg: see Belgium 13. Mexico 14. Norway 15. Panama 16. Russia 17. Slovakia 18. South Africa Please contact me if you think you did submit something but you're still on the list. You can submit your maximum 10 pictures per country to the international finale by submitting a list of url's to effeietsand...@gmail.com . I kindly request you to also send (but perhaps in a later email) a 1 sentence summary of the judging process and a list of your jury members. Thanks! Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Panama Winners
Wow, thanks a lot! I processed them into the nominations list. Very diverse, beautiful! Congratulations with this quality. Lodewijk 2012/10/29 Monica Mora monica.joan...@gmail.com Hi all So glad to announce the winning pictures from Panama. Hope you enjoy them :-) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BARRIO_SUR.jpg Monument: Old houses, South Town, Colon city. Author: Inés Cabrera http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CEMENTERIO_DE_COROZAL_SILVER_1.jpg Monument:Corozal Silver Cemetery Author: Guisepitt http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Torre_de_la_Catedral_Panam%C3%A1_Viejo.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Torre_de_la_Catedral_Panamá_Viejo.jpg Monument:Cathedral Tower, Panama Viejo Author: Rodolfo Aragundi http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plaza_Herrera_-_Flickr_-_GaryAmberths.jpg Monument: Plaza Herrera, Casco Viejo de la ciudad de Panamá. Author:GaryAmberths http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paseo_del_Prado_-_Flickr_-_GaryAmberths.jpg Monument: El Prado Avenue Author: GaryAmberths http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Teatro_de_Balboa.jpg Monument: Balboa theater. Part of the former Panama Canal Zonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone. Opened in 1950. Author: Y.Y.Y.G. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plaza_de_Francia_Casco_VIejo.jpg Monument: Plaza de Francia, Casco Viejo. UNESCO World Heritage Site Author: Rodolfo Aragundi http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graduandos_Paname%C3%B1os.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graduandos_Panameños.jpg Monument: Bridge of the Americas: Author: Youngiovani http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monumento_a_Vasco_N%C3%BA%C3%B1ez_de_Balboa_-_08-025_-_general._-_Flickr_-_MaxiV4.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monumento_a_Vasco_Núñez_de_Balboa_-_08-025_-_general._-_Flickr_-_MaxiV4.jpg Monument: Statue to Vasco Núñez de Balboa Author: MaxiV4 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aduana_de_Portobelo.jpg Monument: Old Portobelo Customs Agency. Built in 1630. UNESCO World Heritage Site Author: Editor Pana Cheers Mónica J. Mora ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Update from WLM Israel
amazing! Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/29 Sophie Österberg sophie.osterb...@wikimedia.se Wow Deror! I am amazed by all your effort into making WLM such a big and joyous event, great! / Sophie Wikimedia Sverige Jag ber om ursäkt om jag är kort. Detta skickas från min mobil / Sophie Den 29 okt 2012 20:36 skrev Deror Avi deror_...@yahoo.com: Dear all, I wish to update regarding WLM in Israel. The competition took place during the month of Tishrei (mid September to mid October) , during which 6,097 images were uploaded to the commons. The most photographed monuments were, as expected, the Bahai Gardens in Haifa, the Tower of David in Jerusalem, and Jaffa Port. During the month of the competition we also held 20 events including two photography workshops (sponsored by the Galitz school of photography), 18 guided tours (sponsored by the Council for Heritage Sites in Israel), and two tours at the Israel Museum (the museum allowed free entrance to the participants). about 400 people participated in the events. Our volunteers chaperoned the tours ready to answer all questions about the competition. 500 people visited our both at a photography fare, 800 people wrote to us requesting information about the tours, 600 joined our mailing lists. We also had 20 newspaper articles (some of which internet newspapers and some printed), participated in 6 radio shows and 2 television programs, talking about the competition. Following the competition a Portal was created in Hebrew Wikipedia to host the lists of sites, and the best images taken. As to the judging - our volunteers shifted through the 6,000 uploads choosing 250 photographs for the 9 judges (three professional photographers, two of which from the Galitz School, two professional site conservation experts from the National council, and four Wikipedians). The judges rated the photographs choosing 30, and then from those chose the top 10. The three images that got the highest points will receive monetary prices (NIS 5,000 (about $1,250), NIS 3,000 and NIS 2,000). The Israeli Internet Association conducted its own judging allowing the general public to vote on its most favorite image, which will receive NIS 2,000. The results will be published at our awards ceremony which will take place on 7th November and will include a tour of old Jaffa, a cocktail and an exhibition of the 10 winning photographs and the people's choice. Following the awards ceremony, the exhibition will be hung at the gallery of the Diezengoff Centre shopping mall in Tel Aviv until 1st December. We wish to thank our volunteers who helped with the tours, and with creating the lists of monuments (as you may recall we had to create the lists for the competition - none exited before it). We especially want to thank Yan who has created the judging system used by us and other countries. We further wish to thank the international competition team for their support and assistance, and their patience with our many questions. Regards, Deror ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Nominations: 2 more days before the deadline, 18 countries missing
Update: 1. Austria 2. Belarus 3. Belgium Luxembourg; public announcement: 30 November 4. Chile 5. Ghana 6. Kenya 7. Luxembourg: see Belgium 8. Mexico 9. Norway 10. Russia 11. Slovakia 12. South Africa Some countries are already in contact. Status is unknown for: Belgium Luxembourg, Kenya, Russia, Slovakia 2012/10/29 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi all, the deadline for the nominations for the international finale is approaching rapidly. 2 more days (deadline is 31 October at 23:59 UTC). I would like to repeat this is a hard deadline. Missing it might result in having no nominations at all for your country! The following countries still did not nominate any pictures for the international finale according to my administration: 1. Andorra 2. Argentina 3. Austria 4. Belarus 5. Belgium Luxembourg; public announcement: 30 November 6. Chile 7. Colombia 8. France 9. Ghana 10. Israel 11. Kenya 12. Luxembourg: see Belgium 13. Mexico 14. Norway 15. Panama 16. Russia 17. Slovakia 18. South Africa Please contact me if you think you did submit something but you're still on the list. You can submit your maximum 10 pictures per country to the international finale by submitting a list of url's to effeietsand...@gmail.com . I kindly request you to also send (but perhaps in a later email) a 1 sentence summary of the judging process and a list of your jury members. Thanks! Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Language of the survey
Hi Jane, could you provide a link to more information about that first survey? I'm a bit surprised that someone organized a survey like that without contacting us at all... (and quite inpolite at the least) Thanks, Lodewijk 2012/10/28 Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com Thanks for the quick reply! My preferences on commons are in English, as are my preferences in Google chrome (my browser of choice). I checked the link again and just noticed the languages on the left. I guess I was expecting a non-wiki survey site. Just to be clear, this was my second WLM survey - I filled out another (from an MIT student?) last week. That was in English, which was why I was surprised. I can't remember what language I used last year. Jane 2012/10/28 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 28/10/12 12:39, Jane Darnell wrote: My browser settings are in English and I just filled out the survey in Dutch, though the thankyou was in English. I looked to see if I could fill out the survey in English, but I didn't see an option for that, though I submitted files to the US WLM competition (as well as NL, FR, and DE) Jane If you have your commons settings in Dutch, the link of the template will have sent you to the survey in Dutch (odder changed that). The template is the same in English, Dutch, French or German. They are the same questions translated. If you participated in several country competitions, you only need to fill the survey once. You can also fill in the free-text answers in any language you want (it's then our problem to figure out what that mean). Besides, the survey has links in the sidebar to change the language it is shown. Although nobody seems to be discovering them. :( ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] Nominations still missing for the following countries. Deadline 31 October UTC!
Hi all, please note that nominations for the International Wiki Loves Monuments finale are still missing for the following countries: 1. Andorra 2. Argentina 3. Austria 4. Belarus 5. Belgium Luxembourg; public announcement: 30 November 6. Chile 7. Colombia 8. Estonia 9. France 10. Germany 11. Ghana 12. India 13. Israel 14. Kenya 15. Luxembourg: see Belgium 16. Mexico 17. Netherlands 18. Norway 19. Panama 20. Russia 21. Serbia 22. Slovakia 23. South Africa 24. Spain 25. Switzerland - expected: 30 October 26. United States Deadline is approaching quickly, so please make sure to submit your nominations soon. You can submit your nominations by emailing me (effeietsanders at gmail.com) with your nominees, a short summary of your judging process (2 sentences) and a list of your jury members. See also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress#Nominations (do NOT edit please) Thanks, and looking forward to your nominations, Lodewijk (international Wiki Loves Monuments coordination team) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Help make contact with user
Hi Cristian, I agree with the principle. That being said, it is up to the local organizers to interpret it to some extent. Many monument photos have not been identified by the uploader because they couldn't find their way in the lists - and they were later identified by the volunteers. In my opinion, that doesn't disqualify the image, because in the end it has been identified. However, this rule does put the burden with the uploader. If for whatever reason our volunteers cannot find the monument either (bad description?) or they are just lazy - that is his problem and we can disqualify the image. The same goes imho for the email address requirement. We don't specify /when/ it has to be given. If the local organizers are willing to put in that effort I'm happy if they contact him otherwise and ask him to activate the email address. However, it does put the burden with the participant - if it takes too long for the opinion of the organizers, they can disqualify the user from receiving a prize. So my advice would definitely be: if you contact him otherwise, give clear deadlines. If he doesn't respond before a certain moment: too bad, prize gone. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/27 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com 2012/10/27 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il: According to the rules, a user without email cannot participate, but before we ignore his winning, any idea or help tracking and contact him? 2012/10/27 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: On 27/10/12 12:47, Roel Balingit wrote: I had finalists who didn't have e-mails. I sent them messages in their talk pages, and posted their photos in our Facebook account only through that he noticed he was a finalist and communicated with us. Roel WLMPH I find that approach poses a problem if they don't appear, since you are publishing them as winners, then retreating. We had several ineligible pictures preselected, but luckily none of them reached the top positions. Sorry to say that, but if contest's rules say you need to provide an e-mail to participate, you have to disqualify that user if she did not provide an e-mail. I know you may think it is very sad to be disqualified because of an e-mail address but: * First, bad consequences are well explained in Platonides'answer. * Second, rules are rules, and they are all equal. If we make an exception for this I don't see why we couldn't make an exception for photos of monuments not in the lists or photos uploaded 1 minute past the deadline of the contest (or, more realistically, the case where multiple photos where uploaded and some of them resulted uploaded after the deadline of the contest). Cristian ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Translation of the thank-you and survey invitation message
Seems good, thank you! I assume that if no translation is provided, the default will fall to English? In that case, it is no disaster if it is not translated. All: However, if you would like to improve/add translations in your language you can do so here: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStatsgroup=tsint-wlmsurvey Please note that for Afrikaans, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Luxembourgish, Norwegian, Slovakian, Swahili, Tamil and Telugu the translations are not complete at all and need more work before they can actually be used. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/24 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com I have fixed a gender bug in IE 9 and made a summary page showing the answers we will be saving. Please report any issues you view with it. http://toolserver.org/~platonides/wlmsurvey/wlm2012.php This also caused the addition of a few more messages to translate: 2012-thank-you-answer 2012-not-answered, 2012-bad-year-answer, 2012-no-comments, 2012-change-answers, 2012-returnto Odder, Lodewijk, you may want to propose a new wording to 2012-thank-you-answer. I kept it quite simple but it's of course open to changes. Best regards ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Top10 from Ukraine
Hi Andrij, Thanks for the winners. I will send an overview of the situation shortly on this mailing list. (for the record: if other countries want to share their nominees, please also submit them by emailing me directly to ensure they actually arrive). Andrij, could you also please send: * A summary of roughly 1 sentence of your judging process (jury or public voting, how many rounds, how many images in the rounds, was there a scrutiny etc.) * A list of your jury members Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/10/23 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Dear friends, I'm glad to inform you that Ukraine is ready with top-10 photos. The list is published in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Ukraine/top10page and also in our official blog - http://wlm.org.ua/best_photos Do any other country have their top10? If s, please inform me, I'm interested to present them in exhibition in Kiev on 4 f November. -- Regards, Andrij Bondarenko ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] Nominees for the international finale - deadline approaching
Hi all, we're approaching the deadline of 31 October rapidly! After 23:59 UTC on 31 October it is no longer possible to submit your 10 nominees per country. Below I have included an overview of all countries that did NOT submit their nominees yet. An updated overview is kept at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress#Nominations (please don't edit this section!). To submit your nominees, send: * A list of maximum 10 url's to the images on Wikimedia Commons * A summary of roughly 1-2 sentence(s) of your judging process (jury or public voting, how many rounds, how many images in the rounds, was there a scrutiny etc.) * A list of your jury members Send this to effeietsanders AT gmail.com . Looking forward to your nominations. Kind regards, Lodewijk Countries that did not submit their nominees yet: 1. Andorra 2. Argentina 3. Austria 4. Belarus 5. Belgium Luxembourg 6. Canada 7. Chile 8. Colombia 9. Denmark 10. Estonia 11. France 12. Germany 13. Ghana 14. India 15. Israel 16. Italy 17. Kenya 18. Luxembourg: see Belgium 19. Mexico 20. Netherlands 21. Norway 22. Panama 23. Russia 24. Serbia - expected: 27 October 25. Slovakia 26. South Africa 27. Spain 28. Switzerland - expected: 30 October 29. United States ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Several unanswered questions
Hey, I actually doubt that it would be helpful to answer all of them. Going through it to find the most helpful feedback and summarize that would probably be more helpful for the evaluation. If you could link to such summary from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Evaluation (I hope someone can nicely layout that and make it work in the rest of the framework :) ) we could also link other evaluation resources from there. Personally I didn't know about this page... We have too many different communication channels :) Lodewijk 2012/10/22 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.**org/wiki/Commons:Upload_**Wizard_feedbackhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_Wizard_feedback seems to have many requests related to WLM. Most have probably been archived by the bot without a reply, but it would be useful to answer the remaining ones (or archive them if no longer relevant so that the backlog is reduced). Thanks, Nemo __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] Deadlines jury process
Hi all, I would like to update you on the jury process for the international jury as planned currently. We're already halfway into October, so I hope that all countries have their juries working on the national selections! The deadline for sending in your national selection is *31 October (UTC timezone)*. Please try to submit your nominations before 20 October please - after that date I will start hunting local teams and try to get them :) To submit your nominations, please send a list of url's of your ten nominees (not necessarily in any particular order) to effeietsand...@gmail.com . You are allowed to submit less nominees, but not more. Please make sure in the email you send that it is clear and obvious that you are submitting the true nominations. Shortly describe your process (can be one or two sencences) and who was on your jury. Please include at least one jury member in cc. I will ensure it arrives at the jury. I will keep an overview of all received and processed nominations on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress#Nominations . Next, the jury will take three rounds. In the first round, they will go down from the expected 350 nominations (longlist) to ~25-50 (shortlist). Next the jury members get the chance to remove images from consideration by simple majority vote. Then in a third round, the best images will be chosen from the shortlist and ranked by the jury. A jury report will be produced based on these processes. We hope to be able to make the results available to you (and in a press release) by the end of November/begin of December. We will follow a similar procedure in writing a press release as with the awarding of the Guinness World Record. Please respect the deadline of 31 October! If you miss it, things get really complicated and we will probably have to disallow your nominees to participate in the finale. Thank you, Lodewijk Gelauff non-voting jury moderator ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars 2012
Yes, that would be the same address. 2012/10/15 Cyriel Brusse cyr...@wmnederland.nl I presume the extra orders on the calendars can be send to i...@wikilovesmonuments.org as well? WMNL would like to have some for our members. :) Cyriel 2012/10/12 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com On 12 October 2012 19:05, Racso wrote: According to [1], the deadline was on October 31. Can you (or someone else) please confirm the exact date? I hope we can publish the results far before those dates, but just in case... There is no just in case, you /have/ to publish your results before that date, or there will be trouble in getting the decision of the international jury in time, getting the calendars published delivered on time, etc. We have experienced that snowballing effect last year, and there is no way this can happen again. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars 2012
It is indeed October 31, UTC. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/12 Racso ra...@colombia.com 2012/10/12 Kelda Niemeyer kelda.nieme...@wikimedia.de # All nominations for the international level (ie. results from the national competitions) will /have/ to be in by *October 30*. That's a hard deadline, so please, please make sure not to miss it. According to [1], the deadline was on October 31. Can you (or someone else) please confirm the exact date? I hope we can publish the results far before those dates, but just in case... Racso [1] - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup
Hi Jason, could you set up one for the international jury too? I only want the star level for 5 users (and myself as admin). I would like to be able to feed in a list of url's/file names either myself or through your help. Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/10/8 maarten deneckere maartendeneck...@gmail.com Hey all, South Africa wants to use the judging tool as well. Can you send me more information, and the login details? Regards, Maarten 2012/10/5 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com +1 Cristian On Friday, October 5, 2012, Cristian Consonni wrote: 2012/10/1 Nicu Buculei nicub...@gmail.com: - also I have to acknowledge I was confused at first with the position of the accept and reject icons, a few times I clicked on the wrong ones, I expected them to be below the pictures but they were at the top; I think this has been fixed by adding the colored semi-transparent to the images (green for accepted, black for the others) anyway, I think a framing will be better because you may want to lok again at the images before updating the decision - the filtering is going to be used my more people at the same time. One user will browse the images, accept some, reject some but also defer some, leaving the decision for others. A faster way to navigate the images is needed, perhaps in the footer in addition to Start || Previous || Next some way to jump to page N. For the second stage, image rating, I only saw a screenshot so far so for now I have a single request: a more fine-grained noting system. When the jury is small, only 1-5 stars is to little and will produce a lot of collisions, multiple image with the same score. Last year in my country we had every member of the jury give an image 3 scores from 1 to 10 for different criteria: artistic quality, technical quality and usefulness for Wikipedia and made a pondered sum (50%, 30%, 20%) for a final note for each person. While this may be overkill for the global competition and juries in every country, moving to 1-5 stars is way too little. I will think a bit more about how comfortable a 1-10 rating per image is. +1 Cristian ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- +Nyarko Rexford https://plus.google.com/u/0/107174506890941499078 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] 2013 - wanted: volunteers for the coordinating team
Hi all, 2012 has been the second year that we have an international Wiki Loves Monuments competition, and it is quite a ride! While we're not finished yet with this years competition, it is probably good to look forward to 2013. A number of countries have indicated they would love to join next year. Some who have already participated this year, some who will be joining for the first time. Some who participated this year, but not to the extent they would have liked to. But for a smooth organization, we will need a dedicated volunteer team for the international coordination. This year the team consisted from Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself with the valuable support of Barbara who was working from the Wikimedia Deutschland office. At least a few of this team have indicated that they are unlikely to help coordinate to the same level as this year. Lets put it bluntly: without coordinating team, there will be no international competition for Wiki Loves Monuments in 2013. So the question is... are there any volunteers? Maybe you wonder what this coordinating is all about. Most of it is stuff that others will never see. Talking with network partners, keeping track of status and documentation, a whole bunch of technical stuff in tool- and database maintenance and also a lot of knowledge transfer to local teams (chats, meetings, workshops). The time it costs can vary widely, but should not be underestimated (I think a few hundred hours is on the lower side). Of course the more skills and people, the less work per person. Would you be interested? Just drop me a note or ask some questions on this list, in a chat or somewhere else. We don't need to make this decision right now - but if we want another WLM international - we will need to get started with budget requests pretty soon thanks to the more complicated budget allocation rules we're facing. I'm happy to help get that done - but only if I'm confident that there will be a great team once again :) I'm looking forward to any questions or emails on this topic. Best, Lodewijk (not on behalf of anyone) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 2013 - wanted: volunteers for the coordinating team
Hi Nkansah, thanks for your mail! For the coordinating team it is mostly important to have a good mix of people who have time, commitment and experience. There is no need that everyone has technical skills, but it would be very helpful if some have. There is no official age limitation, it is more important how mature one behaves (please note that this is basically a working group, and not so much a formal board function). There is not much software 'behind WLM' so there is in that respect not much training. There is of course a lot of documentation, but mostly it is (I'm afraid) a self-learning process. Last year we ran the coordination with four very active people. This was sometimes on the low side. There is no formal geographical limitation - although being from a country that successfully organized Wiki Loves Monuments - and that could organize it again without your continued support would definitely be a big advantage. I would really be sad if you joining the international coordination team would for example mean that the activities in Ghana would be decreased significantly. Best, Lodewijk El jueves, 11 de octubre de 2012, Nkansah Rexford escribió: Hi, My questions: 1. To be a part of the organizing team, do I need any technical and/or programming skills (e.g PHP, SQL etc)? 2. Any age limitation? 3. Will newbie volunteers be trained to use the software infrastructure behind WLM, or they'll have to figure our stuffs based on their experience? 4. How many volunteers do you need (or how many volunteers will you recommend to run WLM 2013 successfully)? 5. Any geographical limitation? I guess thats all I wish to ask for now. However, I'm willing to volunteer. I'm from Ghana. Rexford On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Lodewijk wrote: Hi all, 2012 has been the second year that we have an international Wiki Loves Monuments competition, and it is quite a ride! While we're not finished yet with this years competition, it is probably good to look forward to 2013. A number of countries have indicated they would love to join next year. Some who have already participated this year, some who will be joining for the first time. Some who participated this year, but not to the extent they would have liked to. But for a smooth organization, we will need a dedicated volunteer team for the international coordination. This year the team consisted from Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself with the valuable support of Barbara who was working from the Wikimedia Deutschland office. At least a few of this team have indicated that they are unlikely to help coordinate to the same level as this year. Lets put it bluntly: without coordinating team, there will be no international competition for Wiki Loves Monuments in 2013. So the question is... are there any volunteers? Maybe you wonder what this coordinating is all about. Most of it is stuff that others will never see. Talking with network partners, keeping track of status and documentation, a whole bunch of technical stuff in tool- and database maintenance and also a lot of knowledge transfer to local teams (chats, meetings, workshops). The time it costs can vary widely, but should not be underestimated (I think a few hundred hours is on the lower side). Of course the more skills and people, the less work per person. Would you be interested? Just drop me a note or ask some questions on this list, in a chat or somewhere else. We don't need to make this decision right now - but if we want another WLM international - we will need to get started with budget requests pretty soon thanks to the more complicated budget allocation rules we're facing. I'm happy to help get that done - but only if I'm confident that there will be a great team once again :) I'm looking forward to any questions or emails on this topic. Best, Lodewijk (not on behalf of anyone) -- +Nyarko Rexford https://plus.google.com/u/0/107174506890941499078 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Is the portal down ? --- http://wlm.wmflabs.org/
Hi Jason, I'm also having trouble still, also after a hard refresh. Just getting a messag 'oops, cannot find wlm.wmflabs.org' without further helpful info. Best, Lodewijk (Windows, Chrome) 2012/10/11 Jason Spriggs ja...@jasonspriggs.com I am getting to it just fine. If you all are still getting issues, forward them to me. ~Jason On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/10/12 13:15, Ilario Valdelli wrote: I have checked with other members of WM CH and some can see it, I am unable to connect to the website. Looks like a routing problem. The best way to troubleshoot it is probably to ask in the irc to someone of ops, with a traceroute from your location (assuming it didn't fix itself on the meantime). ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- *Thank you for contacting Jason Spriggs. * ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback for survey questions
Wow, great form! I assume multilingual is possible? I'd be happy to help make that happen if you let me know how. For the output at multiple choise, please make sure that all translations get the English choices as output. Otherwise interpretation is like hell. Could you make the comment fields less wide and a bit longer? Can you number the questions? The second answer in When were (most of) your submissions for 2012 taken? should say January - August. The third option should say 2000 - 2011. I realize there's a bit of weirdness with WLM2011, but I don't think we should lead them too much to that. Lets keep it as similar to last years survey as possible here and offer similar options. At Motivation, 'Wikipedia' should be capitalized. Could we add a statement at the top that there are no obligatory questions? Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Santiago Navarro Sanz wikimill...@hotmail.com I added some suggestions at the end of the Etherpad. Santi (aka Millars) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:39:40 +0200 From: platoni...@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback for survey questions On 09/10/12 01:06, Nkansah Rexford wrote: I just went through the draft survey and it looks okay. Suggestion: How about making the questions stand out from the answers or options beneath them? By looking, the questions appear a bit combined with the answers. rexford You're right. I made the questions bold, and placed the explanations in italic. I'm not convinced it's final yet, but looks much better. Feel free to suggest enhancements. The questions are properly classed, so it's a matter of adding a few lines of css to style them differently. (I also added a question that I missed copying, oops!) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback for survey questions
Just as a short remark: Most question suggestions are quite good... but we should really really limit the survey to about 15 questions like last year. Having a short survey proved to be very helpful in the number of responses (got good feedback on that). I'm already having fights with Tomasz about the 4 extra questions added so far - so please realize that if you want to add a question, another question will likely have to disappear. Many good questions were quite detailed, and with every question we should consider what we want to learn from that answer. Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Wow, great form! I assume multilingual is possible? I'd be happy to help make that happen if you let me know how. For the output at multiple choise, please make sure that all translations get the English choices as output. Otherwise interpretation is like hell. Could you make the comment fields less wide and a bit longer? Can you number the questions? The second answer in When were (most of) your submissions for 2012 taken? should say January - August. The third option should say 2000 - 2011. I realize there's a bit of weirdness with WLM2011, but I don't think we should lead them too much to that. Lets keep it as similar to last years survey as possible here and offer similar options. At Motivation, 'Wikipedia' should be capitalized. Could we add a statement at the top that there are no obligatory questions? Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Santiago Navarro Sanz wikimill...@hotmail.com I added some suggestions at the end of the Etherpad. Santi (aka Millars) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:39:40 +0200 From: platoni...@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback for survey questions On 09/10/12 01:06, Nkansah Rexford wrote: I just went through the draft survey and it looks okay. Suggestion: How about making the questions stand out from the answers or options beneath them? By looking, the questions appear a bit combined with the answers. rexford You're right. I made the questions bold, and placed the explanations in italic. I'm not convinced it's final yet, but looks much better. Feel free to suggest enhancements. The questions are properly classed, so it's a matter of adding a few lines of css to style them differently. (I also added a question that I missed copying, oops!) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 officially broke world record
Hi Racso, This is unfortunately how Guinness World Records works. The record has to go to an organization (legal entity) or person that actually organized it. Wikimedia Nederlands, as the official organizer of the international part of the competition, is the organization that comes closest to it. Guinness World Records isn't really built for online events, which is also the reason you will see 'the Netherlands' as location for the competition, and not 'Europe' (which would have been my preference for 2011). We can't simply edit their framework - if we want to be recognized by them, we have to make sure we fit in. Somehow. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Racso ra...@colombia.com Awesome :) Congratulations to everyone! Now, let's break it again :D Just a quick though: isn't there a way to give (not sure about which would be the right verb here) the record to the Wiki Loves Monuments Organizers (Worldwide)? While I'm very happy with it being given to WM Nederland (Nederlands), I would be even happier if it could be given to all the organizing teams at the same time (I'm only talking about the record registry; obviously, if some kind of certificate or trophie is given, I guess it has to be at a single place at once). If it's not possible for the 2011 record, would it be for the 2012 (which we know we will get :D) one? 2012/10/9 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi all, We have seen it coming for a while, but now it is official: Wiki Loves Monuments has been officially recognized by Guinness World Records as the Worlds Largest Photography Competition! With 168,208 submissions we squashed the previous record by roughly 50%. For 2012 we will likely squash our own record, but it will need some time to become official. Please find the blog post on the Wiki Loves Monuments blog here: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/wiki-loves-monuments-2011-officially-broke-world-record/ Thank you all for making this possible! It was a great journey and I am very glad that all your work gets some extra touch this way! Best, Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 officially broke world record
it might be that the requirements differ from category to category. The cases you mention are indeed quite different from that, and some of them are obviously different. They seem to be especially tough when it comes to things that can be organized (since those need the closest certification). In any case, I don't exclude the possibility that if we negotiate long enough, we might be able to persuade them. However, that would have significantly delayed the recognition. It was hard enough as it is - which you can ask me about next time we meet, but I prefer not to discuss those details on a public mailing list as you may understand :). Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Racso ra...@colombia.com Thanks for the answer, Lodewijk! I'm confused. I've seen records given to the following: - The Antartica (a continent, Where: Antartica) - http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-3000/most-sparsely-populated-continent/ - Augie (a dog, Where: USA) - http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/most-tennis-balls-held-in-the-mouth-dog/ - The Arnold Family (a family, Where: USA) - http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/largest-competitive-pok%C3%A9mon-videogame-family/ - The password 123456 (a password, Where: Not applicable) - http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/9000/most-common-hotmail-password- - The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Seach Project (an internet project, Where: [empty]; note that the record is given to the project, not to the corporation that operates it) - http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/3000/largest-known-prime-number Still, it's obvious that you have the most experience about the topic and limitations here, given that you already have been in touch with the Guiness World Records. Maybe the records *of this specific category* must be given to organizations? Racso 2012/10/9 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi Racso, This is unfortunately how Guinness World Records works. The record has to go to an organization (legal entity) or person that actually organized it. Wikimedia Nederlands, as the official organizer of the international part of the competition, is the organization that comes closest to it. Guinness World Records isn't really built for online events, which is also the reason you will see 'the Netherlands' as location for the competition, and not 'Europe' (which would have been my preference for 2011). We can't simply edit their framework - if we want to be recognized by them, we have to make sure we fit in. Somehow. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/9 Racso ra...@colombia.com Awesome :) Congratulations to everyone! Now, let's break it again :D Just a quick though: isn't there a way to give (not sure about which would be the right verb here) the record to the Wiki Loves Monuments Organizers (Worldwide)? While I'm very happy with it being given to WM Nederland (Nederlands), I would be even happier if it could be given to all the organizing teams at the same time (I'm only talking about the record registry; obviously, if some kind of certificate or trophie is given, I guess it has to be at a single place at once). If it's not possible for the 2011 record, would it be for the 2012 (which we know we will get :D) one? 2012/10/9 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi all, We have seen it coming for a while, but now it is official: Wiki Loves Monuments has been officially recognized by Guinness World Records as the Worlds Largest Photography Competition! With 168,208 submissions we squashed the previous record by roughly 50%. For 2012 we will likely squash our own record, but it will need some time to become official. Please find the blog post on the Wiki Loves Monuments blog here: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/wiki-loves-monuments-2011-officially-broke-world-record/ Thank you all for making this possible! It was a great journey and I am very glad that all your work gets some extra touch this way! Best, Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Questions about the Jury Tool and what to do with photos of non listed monuments
Hi Michael,
Since being a monument is a precondition, I think they should be
disqualified from the contest - and not even be counted for the total
amount of pictures. If they were uploaded, but do not depict a monument at
all (not even a detail of it) then they should be considered as invalid
submissions, and the template should be removed.
Best,
Lodewijk
El sábado, 6 de octubre de 2012, Ynhockey escribió:
Hi Michael,
I will attempt to answer some of your questions and will gladly elaborate
more on chat if you want (ynhoc...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'ynhoc...@gmail.com'); for GTalk, ynhoc...@hotmail.comjavascript:_e({},
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Ynhockey on the WLM IRC channel)
Regarding monuments that aren't on the list: ideally you should reject
them in the first stage. I guess that problem is much bigger for countries
with thousands and tens of thousands of monuments than for Israel which has
about 800, but it's been my experience that it's often easy to tell just by
looking whether something is a monument.
Regarding rejecting images after you accepted them: this is the most
requested feature so far, and I will get to work on that ASAP.
Regarding sorting by user and in general: It should be possible. I don't
know if I'll be able to add the feature now, but I'll do my best. It is
however of lower priority than the previous feature.
For anyone else asking about the tool: feel free to catch me on chat.
Cheers,
—Yan (Ynhockey).
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Santiago Navarro Sanz
wikimill...@hotmail.com wrote:
So, do you remove the template {{Wiki Loves Monuments|xx}} from these
images that don't show a cultural heritage monuments? In Spain we do it. Is
this right?
Regards!
Santi
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:47:34 +0200
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Questions about the Jury Tool and what to
do with photos of non listed monuments
Hi everyone
I’m in the jury of WLM in Denmark and I have some questions about what to
do and how it works.
Some of the pictures uploaded are not pictures of monuments on our lists.
What do we do about that?
The {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2012|dk}} template says “This image was
uploaded as part of Wiki Loves Monuments
2012http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012
.“. The file WAS uploaded as a part of the competition so I do not think
that the obvious thing to do is to remove the template. Instead we could
perhaps add a parameter telling it is not eligible for the prize contest.
It is possible to fair images in the jury tool so the solution could be to
“fail” them there.
Anyway I found out that a few of the photos in the contest should not have
been passed because they are not listed monuments. But I can’t find a way
to go “fail” a monument once it has been passed. So the only way I could
think of is to rate it with one star.
Do we have a manual how to operate the jury tool? I can’t find a “help”
button somewhere on the tool.
For example if I click “Show My Reviewed
Imageshttp://wlm.wmflabs.org/dk/jury2.php?hide_rated=2”
I can see the first 12 photos. How do I see the rest? I found out that if I
click on the URL and add “start=0” à
http://wlm.wmflabs.org/dk/jury2.php?hide_rated=2start=0 then it is
possible to view the next photos. But it would be much easier if there was
a “Next” button or a manual with help.
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Why deadlines exist
hmm, good point! The unfriendlyness could perhaps be tackled by a message on the talkpage of the uploader? (or did that already happen?). Also replacing it with an alternative template it was uploaded for WLM, but unfortunately outside the allowed timeslot in friendly wordings would be a good way. Lodewijk 2012/10/5 Vicenç Riullop vriul...@hotmail.com Most concerns are for removing the WLM template, for any reason, by bot or not. It can be seen as an unfriendly behaviour to exclude a file for the contest. In fact, the submission was intented for WLM, successfully or not, as the template reads. A solution is to keep the template with a note, i.e. uploaded after deadline, not a registered monument, not a participant country, etc. The template with any note can categorize instead in Images from WLM in XX not validated keeping track of them and allowing any revision. But this is an option to discuss for next year. Vicenç Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 03:19:32 +0200 From: polime...@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Why deadlines exist Dura lex, sed lex - but I would like to avoid such situations. This guy was really angry - his pictures were really good - so in fact - Wikimedia Commons lost a good photographer. ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] certificates for the winners
Maybe now the contest is finished, someone feels an urge to share experience or volunteer? :) Lodewijk 2012/9/28 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi all, Last year an often heard question was whether we would offer certificates for the winners. Although I wouldn't want one myself necessarily, it would be nice if we at least can make sure to use a similar design. Is there anyone who is willing to design something? Some criteria that come to mind: * There should be plenty of space * The theme color should be red (because of the logo). The WLM logo should be prominently visible. Also 2012 should get a prominent place in the design, as well as the name of the country. * There should be place for two signatures, but there should always be one (for a jury chair). The second signature could potentially be used for a director, president of the chapter or the main organizer. * The certificate should state: ** Name of the recipient ** File name of the photo ** Description of the photo ** Date Place of signing / ceremony * It should be possible to make the certificate up to four-lingual, but it should also work nicely in English. Anything forgotten? Ideally this would become a file that is easily adaptable. Any previous designs are also welcome! Best, Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Categorizing and using images
Hi Yan, could you be more specific what you mean with 'this'? Did you read the pages Maarten linked (because they do point out which part of the process can happen by bot, and which requires manual work). Just checking :) Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/4 Ynhockey ynhoc...@gmail.com Hi Maarten, I was under the impression that your bot could do this automatically if we filled the Commons Category field in the line template. Did I get the wrong impression? Thanks, —Yan (Ynhockey). On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nlwrote: Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be categorized or that are not used yet, see: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_imagesfor images to add to lists * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Categorizationfor images to categorize Help is much appreciated! Maarten ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Categorizing and using images
OK, so if the categorization page says it can happen, I guess it is
possible (I cant check right now, working offline). Probably good to let
Maarten check the situation for Israel indeed.
Best,
Lodewijk
El jueves, 4 de octubre de 2012, Ynhockey escribió:
Lodewijk:
Basically each template has a field like Commons category. So what the
bot has to do (and this is certainly possible) is to get the monument ID
from the image, go to the monuments DB and get the relevant Commons
category, and then add that category to the image on Commons.
This is the very process described here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Categorization#How_does_the_categorization_bot_work.3F
However, it doesn't appear that the bot has been run yet for Israel, or
alternatively it doesn't appear to be working. We don't have the commonscat
field for all monuments, but definitely more than 0 which is the number
categorized so far.
How often is this bot run? Can I run it myself or request it to be run
again?
Cheers,
—Yan (Ynhockey).
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Strainu
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Hi everyone,
Just a reminder that we still have a lot of images that need to be
categorized or that are not used yet, see:
*
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Unused_images
for images to add to lists
It would help if you would keep the monument ids as they were in the
list (stop capitalizing them). I can't really use the list for
automatic processing, nor can I guarantee the code is good without
looking in the image page.
Regards,
Strainu
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WWW123POICOM
Hi Ilario, I'm not entirely sure what you're meaning. The whole point of the e-mail requirement (we never said they had to be identified *by an email*) was that we are able to contact them. Turning their email functionality on at Wikimedia Commons and/or Flickr would be sufficient. Since 123POI is basically a similar platform as Flickr, it would be just as fine to confirm your email address there. The reason of this rule wasn't to exclude people, but to put the burden of providing contact information on the participant - so that if they have turned email off - we can simply ignore them if we want. Lodewijk 2012/10/3 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com On 02.10.2012 20:58, Raimond Spekking wrote: I have asked the 123POI developers about these partial uploads mid September. Sadly the fault occurs when sending to the 123POI servers :-( No chance to restore them Raimond. Unfortunately the national contest says that the photos must be in high resolution and the user should be identified by an email. So I suppose that the photos coming from this project should be considered out of the limits of the contest. -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WWW123POICOM
Hi Ilario, if you are so hard on such a rule, I think it would have been fair to tell from the beginning of the contest that you will not allow alternative platforms (because that is basically what you're saying). The interpretation I would give to this rule, is that /on the platform you uploaded/ you need to have your email address confirmed. That scales well, and works in the current situation too. I know you don't like the 123POI upload platform very much, but at the very least we shouldn't let the users who used it suffer from that. Best, Lodewijk 2012/10/3 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi Ilario, I'm not entirely sure what you're meaning. The whole point of the e-mail requirement (we never said they had to be identified *by an email*) was that we are able to contact them. Turning their email functionality on at Wikimedia Commons and/or Flickr would be sufficient. Since 123POI is basically a similar platform as Flickr, it would be just as fine to confirm your email address there. The reason of this rule wasn't to exclude people, but to put the burden of providing contact information on the participant - so that if they have turned email off - we can simply ignore them if we want. Lodewijk Absolutely, anyway the regulation of Wikimedia Ch says: Afin d’être contacté, le participant aura renseigné son adresse de courriel dans ses préférences sur le site Wikimedia Commons It means that, if there was an email in Commons, the user would be accepted. The regulation has been published some days after the start of the contest so we may be flexible, so it means that there should be at least a link to the user in another portal and we can spent some time to contact him, but *at least* the email in Commons or everywhere is a *must* to don't be excluded. It's important, in my opinion to do it respectful of some other participants who followed the regulation. -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Statistics - list of usernames?
I think it is fair to restrict to valid participants and thus the second list. Erik, I hope this helps :) Thanks both! Lodewijk 2012/10/2 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 01/10/12 23:06, Erik Zachte wrote: Could you please provide user names, like in earlier years? Then I can plug the new data file into existing code. Wikistats works with user names anyway, and later this month, when all dumps are in, we also want to find user names that did not occur earlier on any wiki. Cheers, Erik I use userids for tracking who was each user, because they sometimes provide different pretty names (I show the name they provided in the page). There go commons usernames: time sql commonswiki_p SELECT DISTINCT user_name FROM u_platonides_wlm_p.wlm2012 JOIN user ON (user_id=wlm_author) WHERE wlm_source = 'commons'; wlmUsernames.txt http://toolserver.org/~platonides/sandbox/wlmUsernames.txt Or if we restrict to valid submissions (182 users less): time sql commonswiki_p SELECT DISTINCT user_name FROM u_platonides_wlm_p.wlm2012 JOIN user ON (user_id=wlm_author) WHERE wlm_source = 'commons' AND wlm_status='Participating'; wlmParticipatingUsernames.txt http://toolserver.org/~platonides/sandbox/wlmParticipatingUsernames.txt ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WWW123POICOM
Hi Vincenç, do you mean in case they won a prize? Probably, if we ask 123POICOM to email them with a message, they will. You need an email address to create an account there. Lodewijk 2012/10/1 Vicenç Riullop vriul...@hotmail.com We need an email for every participant registered at Commons. Flickr users have an email, too. It seems that we can not contact users from 123POICOM. Vicenç -- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:48:34 +0200 From: raimond.spekk...@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WWW123POICOM Please read https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:WWW123POICOM The users are unknown to Commons like every Flickr user too. The quality depends on the mobile device of the user. Raimond. Raimond Spekking, Köln GPG-Schlüssel-ID: 0xB12BE7A6 Hilf mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichne die Online-Petition: https://wke.wikimedia.de/wke/Main_Page?uselang=de Am 01.10.2012 14:44, schrieb Ole Palnatoke Andersen: That image has |Author=Alex Schröder who may or may not be known.. Regards, Ole On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all, we have some photos uploaded with this application. The quality is really bad and the user is not registered. Take one example: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Villa_Rieter_%28Sch%C3%B6nberg%29-1716486.jpeg As I had no possibility to test it, I would know if the quality is connected with the application or if the user has the possibility to setup it. In addition, do you know how find the user? Regards -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing listWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] Statistics - list of usernames?
Hi all, Like last year, we would like to run some statistics again. I know we're only very short after the competition, but could someone create a list of all usernames that participated in WLM2012? Erik Zachte would like to run some early stats on that. I realize we need to make corrections and all, but we can do that later and make the list again. If you could give the list in a csv/txt I think that would be most convenient. Thanks a lot! Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Statistics - list of usernames?
Erik, does this help you to help us? :) Thanks, Lodewijk 2012/10/1 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 01/10/12 19:04, Lodewijk wrote: Hi all, Like last year, we would like to run some statistics again. I know we're only very short after the competition, but could someone create a list of all usernames that participated in WLM2012? Erik Zachte would like to run some early stats on that. I realize we need to make corrections and all, but we can do that later and make the list again. If you could give the list in a csv/txt I think that would be most convenient. Thanks a lot! Lodewijk time sql commonswiki_p SELECT distinct wlm_author FROM u_platonides_wlm_p.wlm2012 WHERE wlm_source = 'commons' and wlm_author 0 wlmUsers.txt http://toolserver.org/~platonides/sandbox/wlmUsers.txt They are user ids, not user names, but that's equivalent for the stats. Uploads from 123POI, flickr etc. are excluded from that list. ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup
Hi Jason, could you set up a copy with 10 random images, so that people can play around a bit? Probably that would help them making a decision if this works for them. Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/9/30 Jason Spriggs ja...@jasonspriggs.com If you would like to use the WLM Judging system developed by WM-IL, please reply back to this email to get your copy setup on labs. Here are some screenshots: http://screensnapr.com/v/6y5nTa.png (Jury Tool - Accept/Deny Entries) http://screensnapr.com/v/otwzG7.png (Jury Tool - Rating Level) ~Jason ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Termination of uploading
Hi Roel, we'll take care of that, no worries :) Sleep well! This is the advantage of an international community! Lodewijk 2012/9/30 Roel Balingit roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph Thanks for the advise. I wanted to go to bed, but yeah I'll wait til 12:01 AM which is about 2:13hrs from now Roel WLM Philippines On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/28 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: On 28/09/12 10:43, Roel Balingit wrote: Would the special upload wizard automatically disable itself, come midnight of September 30 per participating country? Not exactly disable, but yes. See my previous mail in the other thread. This thread in particular: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-September/004743.html Cristian ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- *ROEL BALINGIT* *Treasurer* *__* *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati City* *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph | E: roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Admin authority
Hi Roel, I'm not sure what you mean with categorizing manually. But just to be clear: we can (and probably will) do a botrun at some point to remove the WLM template from late uploads, so you don't have to worry about that (exception is for Flickr uploads in some cases - but please mark these very clearly for that reason). Lodewijk 2012/9/30 Roel Balingit roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph We can't categorized them manually right? The template says so. Roel On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.ptwrote: Wait a bit, why resubmit the photos? _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 30 September 2012 12:49, Roel Balingit roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph wrote: I guess it would be wise to give at least a member of the organizing committee per country Admin control to manage submissions. It was tedious on my part to request a Commons admin to delete entries so that the uploader can re-submit their entries again, if ever it wasn't uploaded correctly using the special upload wizard. I had a handful of requests notify the uploader to re-upload the entries again. Uploading was very simple but some still had difficulty. Here I am in the last 15 minutes of the Philippine competition and faced with a sad uploader with 8 photos which weren't uploaded correctly. :( -- *ROEL BALINGIT* *WLM Philippines* *__* *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati City* *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph | E: roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- *ROEL BALINGIT* *Treasurer* *__* *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati City* *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph | E: roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Philippine uploading period is over
Congratulations :) The number of entries likely will go down a bit (there are always a few copyright violations) but it will no matter what be a great number! Lodewijk 2012/9/30 Roel Balingit roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph Philippine uploading period is over! 2,288 entries from us. *ROEL BALINGIT* *WLM Philippines* *__* *WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES* *G/F Gervacia Center, 152 Amorsolo Street, Legaspi Village, 1229 Makati City* *T: +63-2-8123277 | F: +63-2-8127177 | M: +63-917-8807635 * *W: **www.wikimedia.org.ph | E: roel.balin...@wikimedia.org.ph* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup
is the test environment already supposed to work? It doesn't save anything it seems. 2012/10/1 Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com Both, please send it to me in order to start the pre-jury selection. @Charles: I asked already to upload Swiss photos. Regards On 30.09.2012 23:53, Jason Spriggs wrote: Who is the official contact for Switzerland? Charles or Ilario? Anywho... Until I have all of your countries setup, here is some to test: http://wlm.wmflabs.org/ http://wlm.wmflabs.org/test/ Click Demo User: testacc Pass: test Updates are still being made so please hang on in respect to your country's specific install. ~Jason -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Tel: +41764821371http://www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Judging System Signup
Jason: if I click on Update decisions, it doesn't save anything. That means if I click then on Show my reviewed images, there are none. Lodewijk 2012/10/1 Racso ra...@colombia.com 2012/9/30 Jason Spriggs ja...@jasonspriggs.com Until I have all of your countries setup, here is some to test:Until I have all of your countries setup, here is some to test: Looks pretty nice and useful! Thanks for the good work. Some suggestions: 1. Three pictures are too wide for my screen, so the third picture of each row appears off-screen and I must use the h-scrollbar to see it. That isn't desirable, I think, as makes the process slow. I would suggest using 2 pictures per row, or, better yet, to allow the user to pick a number of pics-per-row. 2. I would change the X (No) button for a Skip button, and make the No to be the default (i.e., if the user doesn't mark a picture, it's because it's discarded; if he wants to leave it for later, he must mark it with the Skip button). That way, filtering would be faster and less tedious (less clics per page). 3. Not sure about this one, but yet I put it here: What about removing the check button (Yes) and allow users to click directly in the images to select them as good? For the full-view, the image link below the image can be used. This would also make the selection faster (clicking the big image is a lot easier than aiming and clicking the small button). For now, that's all. Greetings! Racso ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM and Human.io
Hi, the stories I heard so far outside this list are rather negative though - at least for the iPhone. Apparently the GPS doesn't work well outside the US and the way they upload their pictures is still a bit shaky. Also the source code doesn't see open source? At the same time, it is interesting to see what an open API can do :) Lodewijk 2012/9/27 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com This (app and response) is awesome. SJ On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/26 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com: We are now sorting out the behind-the-scenes technical details, and I'll let you know as soon as there is more update on this. Thank you for your prompt intervention, Tomasz. Cristian ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Idea for WLM app's afterlife
Hi Philip, that sounds like a great idea. Although I wouldn't limit it to articles alone, but 'topics'. We could combine all articles with geo coordinates (set one) with all monuments we already have in the database. Probably it would be good to build in a way to exclude some topics from this functionality (such as articles about huge areas, i.e. 'France'). If that works properly and is maintained well, it would be easy next year to build another app, because you would just copy the app, give it some different colors in the skin and just let it work from the monument database alone, instead of the full geo-tagged set. I'm not sure what resources it would require and how realistic that is, but I think it might actually motivate quite some people. Would it be possible to 'disable' the WLM app and explain people where to find the new app which is more general in its approach? Lodewijk 2012/9/28 Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org Here is an idea: Turn the WLM app into a similar app for uploading photos related to Wikipedia articles. This was in fact the original goal of the mobile photo upload project. One take on this is to use the Nearby search and article search as a way to find articles, then the upload will be given a title related to the article and some metadata can include the article ID. The WLM app will otherwise run the risk of not being functional past October, due to backend issues. Just a quick thought. Let the mobile team know if you think this is a good idea. Phil -- Phil Inje Chang Former Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] permanently removing buttons
Sounds fair enough. Definitely this is a question for each project to resolve for themselves. Different sensitivities in different communities... Lodewijk 2012/9/28 Peter Ekman pdek...@gmail.com There was a question of permanently removing the upload buttons on English Wikipedia. Actually I think it is just a matter for the US WP:NRHP, and may not go beyond that. I don't think it is impossible to keep the buttons, and I think the placeholder RfC was quite badly started and really doesn't apply well to this question. More somebody blowing off steam than anything else. Good editors do that sometime and there may be an underlying issue that we didn't have time to deal with properly a week before the contest started. On the other hand, as a permanent fixture, I don't like the buttons where they currently are. For the contest they were fine, but they attract too much attention away from the list's actual content. Perhaps they might be moved to the description column and made smaller. In any case, a fairly long discussion will likely be needed at WT:NRHP, and removing the buttons, at least temporarily, will be a show of good faith. None of this necessarily applies to non-NRHP lists on English Wikipedia. Pete User:Smallbones ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Idea for WLM app's afterlife
Hi Philip, Maybe I'm wrong here, but as far as I'm aware, the current monument database is actually being scraped each night from the wikipedia lists. So basically it is a mirror of the lists with a lag up to 24 hours (if toolserver works etc). But maybe we're talking about different databases? Probably it would be easiest to just use one way or another the Monument Database we're running, rather than reinventing the wheel. Lodewijk 2012/9/28 Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org Back to Lodewijk's idea of articles and monuments, we unfortunately have an issue with monuments, simply because the database is not maintainable. However, I have wondered about accessing monuments through the Wikipedia pages that list them. ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Slovak WLM
done :) 2012/9/28 Karl Gruber k...@wb-gruber.at I know it's very late through legal causes, but now the slovak domain for http://wikilovesmonuments.sk is running too. Perhaps it's possible, that somebody can change the links with http://wikilovesmonuments.org. Many thanks for the help. regards Karl __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
[Wiki Loves Monuments] certificates for the winners
Hi all, Last year an often heard question was whether we would offer certificates for the winners. Although I wouldn't want one myself necessarily, it would be nice if we at least can make sure to use a similar design. Is there anyone who is willing to design something? Some criteria that come to mind: * There should be plenty of space * The theme color should be red (because of the logo). The WLM logo should be prominently visible. Also 2012 should get a prominent place in the design, as well as the name of the country. * There should be place for two signatures, but there should always be one (for a jury chair). The second signature could potentially be used for a director, president of the chapter or the main organizer. * The certificate should state: ** Name of the recipient ** File name of the photo ** Description of the photo ** Date Place of signing / ceremony * It should be possible to make the certificate up to four-lingual, but it should also work nicely in English. Anything forgotten? Ideally this would become a file that is easily adaptable. Any previous designs are also welcome! Best, Lodewijk ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Difference between statistic and category
Is there a specific reason why this is very important, or is it just out of interest? Lodewijk 2012/9/26 Karl Gruber k...@wb-gruber.at Hi, if I have a look to the next country, like Danmark, so the counts are corresponding. I know it's perhaps now a bad point, because I am uploading by myselfe in this moment, so the countleg is bigger - it's clear, but how I said, also after the the last uploading from ther last photo is few hours, the difference exists and this is not normal, because this bot to count i running after few minutes. Karl __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Android app v1.2.4 Daigo-ji
Hi all, apparently the images ended up on testwiki instead - so they're not lost! Phil/Jon, I've been told that it might be possible technically to export/import these images from testwiki to commons and that Aaron Schulz would most likely be the best person to talk to. Can you take that up (once you wake up etc) with the right people? It would be nice if people don't have to re-upload. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/24 Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com Jane Many apologies - it seems that I personally made a big mistake in the release. We have just released a new version which should hopefully fix all your problems. Best wishes and I hope this will remove some of the disappointment in the Netherlands Jon On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, On my HTC Desire C Android phone I was experiencing crashes, but I was able to upload my photos one-by-one using the nearby function. Now I cannot upload any photos at all anymore with this latest update. I see my uploads under the button uploads, but they appear to be incomplete and ar enot showing up on Commons. Also, if I choose submit another photo, the app stops. CC'ing your mobile-feedbac...@lists.wikimedia.org. disappointed in the Netherlands, Jane 2012/9/21 Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org Dear WLM Members, The WLM Android app has been updated to v1.2.4, named Daigo-ji. Release notes: * Dynamically loads localization updates * Clears large image previews before taking another photo - may help with out of memory errors * Stops Mobile to desktop upload category from being added to uploads from the app - this category should be limited to desktop uploads from a mobile upload Please note: there are issues with the Cordova interface to the camera that are outside of our control (Cordova is the app framework used to build our mobile apps). There are a significant number of users experiencing crashes and we are limited in our ability to debug these problems, for several reasons: * We are not able to reproduce these problems on the same devices that seems to be experiencing the problems * Google Play captures a part of the error which does not include the Cordova aspects * Google Play does not allow us to contact reviewers or people reporting crashes Therefore, if you hear of any users having such problems, please have them contact us by email at: mobile-feedbac...@lists.wikimedia.org. Thanks for your support. Phil -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Jon Robson http://jonrobson.me.uk @rakugojon ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars
Hi all, responding to several points at once: * For the license stuff: I suggest to just take the graphical CC BY-SA logo that Creative Commons provides, and show that at the front page in a corner. * Let me just say 'no' to translating everything into all languages. That is simply a journey I refuse to go onto. It would require a huge investment of time from both translators and the coordinators. Lets do the thing that worked well last year: short description in both the local language of the monument and in English. (with exceptions for complicated regions adding another language). Perfection is the enemy of progress: we're on a very tight time schedule once we get to the jury results. We don't have any resources to hunt after people, and any compromise is going to have disadvantages too. If/when we do an online exhibition we could/should do this though. * For those that really really like, we have a few 2012 calendars left in the WMNL office. I'm sure if you give a proper donation, you can get a few ;-) (contact Sandra Rientjes for that). For 2013 I think Barbara will come later with a more detailed update on what is possible and what isn't. This was still under discussion - the publisher did consider providing calendars for public sale. I'm not sure if the WMF is going to order calendars - but I suggest you contact them directly if you want to make that happen. * Providing URL's to the original file is not required. What I can imagine is that the file description in the last page contains the file names - but then that is also barely usable (how well are you able to copy the hebrew characters?). If you want to reuse the images, just go to the Wikilovesmonuments website or Wikimedia Commons - both will contain a full overview of all winning pictures. Lets not make things more complicated than necessary. It is not a legal requirement, and lets not fool ourselves: anyone with a little bit of google experience can type 'wiki loves monuments winners' into google and will find them. * On QR codes: I know some people really fancy them... personally I think that they wouldn't really look well in the existing designs at least on the photo pages. Again: lets not make the process more complicated (these codes need to be created, pages can't be moved, weird characters etc. - all potential errors and problems giving me a headache). People can find the page with the winning pictures quite easily. If we add everything we *can* add, it will be overkill. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. While some of it may not be implementable, it is still appreciated. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/24 Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de Hi, concerning. distribution Cyriel from WMNL is checking with the WMF, if they will take the WLM calendars into their shop -programme. Please check with Your chapter if you would like to order a number of copies on top of the 15 free copies every participating country will receive. The printing house is not supposed to take individual orders, like sending one copy to Seattle and an other one to Cape Town. But they will love to ship 25 copies to Vienna and 30 to Bogotá and so forth. Just let me know, how You feel about it. I' collect your figures to start with out commitment. concerning layout: there will be no printed rear-sides as this would increase the printing cost considerably. All other suggestions will be considered as Tomasz said. best regards Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2012/9/23 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Thanks for the comments, WereSpielCheckquers and Platonides! 1. I am not sure whether we'll be including file descriptions at all this year; it was the only thing besides the last page that made the calendars not language-neutral. This is something we try to avoid as much as possible, as we're having WLM in more countries that use non-Latin alphabets than last year. I'm not saying no to descriptions in English, but this /is/ a problem, and we will not be able to translate them into the 37 languages used in WLM countries, especially due to technical and financial reasons. If you'd prefer to have the descriptions below the photos, I'll make sure to have them in a bigger font than last year :-)) 2. The names of the authors are listed on the last page of the calendars, though as Platonides rightly pointed out, we forgot to include a link to the page of the deed at creativecommons.org; this is something we can improve this time. I am not sure whether adding a link to a winning photo would be useful at all
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Fwd: Wir haben den Vorjahres Rekord geknackt
Eh, the number from last year was 168.208 :) A few more hours. Lodewijk 2012/9/20 Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de Yupp we have done it, more photos than last year!! thanks frank for leting us know!! Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Von: Frank Schubert fr...@schubert.in-berlin.de Datum: 20. September 2012 14:53 Betreff: Wir haben den Vorjahres Rekord geknackt An: Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de, Catrin Schoneville catrin.schonevi...@wikimedia.de, Katja Ullrich katja.ullr...@wikimedia.de, Christoph Jackel christoph.jac...@wikimedia.de, michael.j...@wikimedia.de http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Images_from_** Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Es werden insgesamt 163.247 Dateien in dieser Kategorie angezeigt: ;-) Gruß Frank -- Frank Schubert Selchower Str. 22 12049 Berlin mobile +49 160 416 84 78 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/more-photos-than-in-2011/ 2012/9/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 21/09/12 00:32, Itzik Edri wrote: 168,784 :) Mazal Tov! Files 168208 and #168209 are * 046_Catedral_de_Vic.jpg 20120920214357 Enfo * Laguna_di_ponente.JPG 20120920214402 Viscardo Squartini List from #168197 http://toolserver.org/~platonides/wlm/uploads-brief.php?since=20120920214322order=earlier Same rationale as of my 2012-09-13 20:49 CEST mail, but file is wlm-168208.txt and the offset is now (20 - 1). ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Banner for WLM-SK
Hi Karl, I have added the link. I couldn't find however the English summary page - could you send me the link to that too? Thanks, Lodewijk 2012/9/18 Karl Gruber k...@wb-gruber.at Sorry, unfortunately not an answer how we can get a link inside of the http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.orgor who is the responspible people for this? The registration in Slovakia is unfortunately a not so short procedure (onlay slavak people and so) and so we need the link to the provisorium on wiki-sk. thanks in advance Karl __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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Hi Karl, you don't have to translate everything to English, but a summary should be there indeed. You can find several examples on http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/english-pages/ . (I see that also Austria and Germany are missing there...) This summary is especially for the tourists who visited the country in the past and simply want to have the easy story how to find a monument, what they can win and where to upload. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/19 Karl Gruber k...@wb-gruber.at Hi Lodewijk, thank you, that you added the link. There are not this text in english. It correspond approxemately text in czech language. I hope in the next days, it should be the real wikilovesmonument.sk is registrated, but the legal way is here not so easy. It's necessary to have the text in english language, so we will organize in a short time. regards Karl Am 19.09.2012 21:40, schrieb Lodewijk: Hi Karl, I have added the link. I couldn't find however the English summary page - could you send me the link to that too? Thanks, Lodewijk 2012/9/18 Karl Gruber k...@wb-gruber.at mailto:k...@wb-gruber.at Sorry, unfortunately not an answer how we can get a link inside of the http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**orghttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.orgor who is the responspible people for this? The registration in Slovakia is unfortunately a not so short procedure (onlay slavak people and so) and so we need the link to the provisorium on wiki-sk. thanks in advance Karl __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@**lists.wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**orghttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 100 000 ?
I didn't use this as a blogpost, since it didn't really have the size we
usually have for a WLM blogpost... Only two lines won't make it. Also, I
was all weekend at the GLAMcamp in London, so I didn't have the time to
write this myself.
Anyway, I think it would be nice to prepare a post for the 168.208'th
picture. Maybe a few other ones in the middle?
Lodewijk
El viernes, 14 de septiembre de 2012, Barbara Fischer escribió:
Hi this is the blogpost based on Sylvain's:
Ce matin, après 13 jours de concours, la 100 000ème photo vient d’être
déposée. L’an dernier il avait fallu attendre le 25ème jour pour que ce
chiffre soit
atteinthttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igreja_de_Santa_Clara_001.jpg
.
Cette 100 000ème photo représente l’immeuble n°9 de la rue Kostyolnaya à
Kiev (Ukraine) où a vécu Sergueï
Korolevhttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergue%C3%AF_Korolev
Yesterday, after only 13 days of competition the
100.000thhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Костёльная_9_Киев_2012_01.jpgphoto
was uploaded. Last year it took us almost double the
amount of time to reach that
numberhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igreja_de_Santa_Clara_001.jpg.
This photo represents the former home of Sergueï
Korolevhttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergue%C3%AF_Korolev in
Kiev (Ukraine) in the Kostyolnaya street n° 9. There image was taken by
user AMY.
@lodewijk
could you use that for a blogpost?
thanks bfisch
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2012/9/13 Sylvain Machefert smachef...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'smachef...@gmail.com');
Hi,
we had just published a blog post (
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/2012/09/13/100-000/ ) about the 10th
using the one that had been extracted from emijrp's logs of this morning,
don't you mind if we stay on this first file so that everybody has got the
same 10th picture ? :)
Sylvain
2012/9/13 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'platoni...@gmail.com');
I ran sql commonswiki_p SELECT page_title, log_timestamp, log_user_text
from logging JOIN categorylinks ON (log_page = cl_from) LEFT JOIN page
ON (log_page = page_id) WHERE log_timestamp = '2012083116' AND
log_type='upload' AND log_action='upload' AND cl_to =
'Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012' ORDER BY log_timestamp ASC,
log_id ASC; wlm-10.txt
This doesn't count the 17 files which were restored
http://toolserver.org/~platonides/wlm2012/restored.php but adds a header
line. So we want the line 99984 of the file.
less -N wlm-10.txt
j99984
99979 Костёльная_7_Киев_2012_01.jpg 20120913084725 AMY 81-412
99980 Parc_de_la_Ciutadella,_BCN,_Diada-12.JPG20120913084741
Deosringas
99981 Parc_de_la_Ciutadella,_BCN,_Diada-13.JPG20120913084835
Deosringas
99982 Костёльная_7_Киев_2012_02.jpg 20120913084857 AMY 81-412
99983 Украина,_Киев_-_ВДНХ_-_Павильон_10_'Зерновые_культуры'_03.jpg
20120913084908 Alexostrov
-99984 Portes_d'accés_al_Parc_de_la_Ciutadella,_BCN,_Diada-1.JPG
20120913084925 Deosringas
99985 Härlanda_kyrkoruin_2012-09-13_10-48-52.jpg 20120913084930
SM6XSG
99986 Pani_Kotha.JPG 20120913084952 Vijay Bhadani
Or if you prefer a one-liner:
$ head -99984 wlm-10.txt | tail -1
Portes_d'accés_al_Parc_de_la_Ciutadella,_BCN,_Diada-1.JPG
20120913084925 Deosringas
The Zwierzyniecki_(2) file by emijrp is the 15 in my record (ie. the
100021th upload).
It's odd that the timestamps are a bit different there between us,
though.
The file http://toolserver.org/~platonides/sandbox/wlm-10.txt
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Advice about what to do with a troll? participant
Hi Oscar, Thanks for your mail. I don't have the feeling from the column pictures at least that this is a troll or attention seeker. Lets assume good faith, and assume he indeed wants to make detailed photos. Then I think that allowing them as images is totally fine. It may be obvious that these pictures are unlikely to win any prize though. Disqualification won't help anyone and will at best get you huge discussions. What is important though, is that he identifies which monument it is. Transcribing etc seems to me too much like you're making fun of him - do I definitely don't agree with that suggestion. So, if this indeed seems like a detail of monument 06-050, then just accept it as a submission. If you want him also to make overview photos, you could just ask him that in a constructive way like Hey, thanks for participating! I see you make a lot of nice detailed photos, but I wondered if you could, on top of that, also make a few overview photos so that it is clear how these details relate to each other. Hope that helps, Lodewijk 2012/9/15 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com well i looked, they are not geotagged. so challenge him/her, ask them to geolocate them, ask them to transcribe them text. this could be attention seeking behaviour, so give them some attention , but also challenge them to do more intensive work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_seeking mike On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen o...@palnatoke.org wrote: Besides, the columns seem to have names(?) on them, so there might be a meaning somewhere.. Ole On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: well sounds like a job for openstreetmap, the germans map every single lightpost, so i would say if they have geotags, keep them and put them on osm. mike On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Racso ra...@colombia.com wrote: I'm having a bit of trouble with a really weird (troll?) participant. He has uploaded some valid photos to the contest, but also lots of really weird and invalid stuff (for example, a photograph of a dead rat found in a park [the park is a monument, so let's take some close-up details of it!]). His last gift was this golden collection: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N33.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N35.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:N39.jpg (Try changing the two-digits number of the filename with other numbers to see even more columns :D [or just check this out: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Ivan_Tunja ; look for the NXX.jpg filenames]) Apparently, this time he is moving around the inside of an area surrounded by some kind of fence and taking photos to each column the fence has. I can't even know if the columns are part of a valid monument because I cannot see what is behind the photographer (inside the fence); and even if they are, I think this is just irrational and not useful at all! What do you think I should do? Nothing? Disqualify the images? Let them stay until the end of september and then filter them? I don't feel comfortable knowing that about 10% of the contest valid images are photos of almost equal columns :S (Hey, check out Colombia cultural heritage! Yep, columns! [And dead rats!]). Also, I'm getting tired of following this guy's contribution to filter the non-useful, even offensive pictures (I won't allow the rat image to reach the judges!). I think that, while the rules don't state that uploading dozens of almost equal photos is invalid, this guy is clearly stretching the spirit of the competition. Any advice of how to deal with this kind of behaviour will be really appreciated. If you think that I'm wrong and I should let him be happy and participate with his images, tell me so; It will also be appreciated. Racso ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving WLM page from WIkipedia to commons
The bug with all info is here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39168
2012/9/13 emijrp emi...@gmail.com
The Kenya monuments are not in the erfgoed database, can you fix it
Multichill?
2012/9/13 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com
Hmmm! I think we had a similar problem. We solved ours using just a
redirect. Instead of moving the page, you can try a redirect instead.
I hope it works. Thanks.
On 9/13/12, Wanjau wanjaus...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
We made this page [1] on Wikipedia but all the banners on Wikimedia
projects are redirecting to our commons planning page [2] which doesn't
have concise guidelines on how-to participate.
I have tried moving the Wikipedia page to the commons page but with
little success since there is a template {{start tab}} (which is not
available on commons) we used when creating the Wikipedia page.I know
there is a way of importing the template but I do not have the rights to
do that. I hope someone on this list can advise on how best to move the
content.
regards,
Stephen.
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Kenya
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 100 000 ?
Indeed wonderful! As far as I know, we don't have a way to track down what was the 100,000th image unless someone happens to see the upload happening. Lodewijk 2012/9/13 Sophie Österberg sophie.osterb...@wikimedia.se That's great news! 2012/9/13 Sylvain Machefert smachef...@gmail.com Hi all, has someone found which is the 100 000th uploaded picture so that we can blog about it ? Thanks, and congrats everybody for this great achievement, 13 days to reach this mark when it took 25 days last year (less countries I know, but still a really good news !) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- *Med vänliga hälsningar/ Kind regards, Sophie Österberg 0736-982101 sophie.osterb...@wikimedia.se* *A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes. * ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Android App
Hi Alex, in the case of Kenya (I assume that is why you ask), the bottle neck currently lies in adding Kenya to the database. We need someone a bit more technical to do that. Unfortunately this hasn't happened yet. Once that happened, it'll be a few days before it comes to the app. However, that will be of little use if there are no coordinates in the list. If you want monuments to show up properly, you should add geo-coordinates to the list. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/13 Alex Wafula xelaw...@gmail.com Hi all, How can I proceed to add some more monuments on the WLMm android apo. Alex ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Moving WLM page from WIkipedia to commons
updated. 2012/9/13 Wanjau wanjaus...@gmail.com Kenya link at [1] pointing to wrong page. It should point to [2] ./Stephen 1. http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Kenya On 09/13/2012 12:44 PM, Wanjau wrote: Thank you all for the help. It is much Appreciated. Banners now redirecting to the Wikipedia page [1]. ./Stephen 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Kenya On 09/13/2012 11:52 AM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: Hi Stephen, there is no need to move the page from the English Wikipedia to Commons, it's too much unnecessary work. I solved this problem the other way round, by changing the banners to link to your page on the English Wikipedia, and the change should be visible in a few minutes' time. Thanks, ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Interview Wiki Loves Monuments in Canada
very nice! :) 2012/9/12 Benoit Rochon broc...@wikimedia.ca Hello, worldwide volunteers of Wiki Loves Monuments, Alan Walker, Vice President of Wikimedia Canada, gave an interview about the world’s largest photo competition, Wiki Loves Monuments. This is our first appearance in the Canadian media. Listen to the *66th minute* of this audio file: http://cod.ckcufm.com/programs/player.raw.html?id=9210 Best regards, [image: Wikimedia Canada Website]http://wikimedia.ca/w/index.php?title=Main_Pagesetlang=en *Benoit Rochon* Coordinator | Wikimedia Canadahttp://wikimedia.ca/w/index.php?title=Main_Pagesetlang=en +1 514 271-2854 | broc...@wikimedia.ca [image: Wikipedia User Page]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Benoit_Rochon [image: Facebook Page] http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaCA [image: Twitter Page] https://twitter.com/WikimediaCA ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org Facebook%20Page[1].pngWikimedia%20Canada%20Website[1].pngWikipedia%20User%20Page[1].pngTwitter%20Page[1].png___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] one more blocking
Hi Andrij, the way you write your emails, while so many people are trying to help you every time again is not encouraging. You come across as unfriendly, impatient and even rude. Please remember that all the people who have helped you a lot in the past weeks and whose help you seek once again are volunteers. This is a general problem returning in most of your emails. Like Nemo said in another email, you should probably contact User:Vituzzu or another steward. Lodewijk 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко bondarean...@gmail.com This time details are following У вас нема дозволу на створення цього облікового запису з такої причини: Вашу IP-адресу заблоковано на всіх проектах Фонду. Блокування накладено Vituzzu (meta.wikimedia.org). Причина: Cross-wiki spam. Початок: 14:46, 12 вересня 2012 Спливає: 14:46, 19 вересня 2012 Щоб обговорити блокування, можете зв'язатися з Vituzzu. Ви не зможете скористатись функцією Надіслати листа, якщо у ваших налаштуваннях не вказано вашої реальної електронної адреси, або ж на вас накладене блокування з забороною писати листи. Ваша поточна адреса - 46.211.121.98. Будь ласка, надавайте всі вищезазначені деталі при будь-яких зверненнях щодо блокування. 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Hej, What the matter??? Why do you block our participants Please do something to unblock them/ That's ridiculous to block a range of Ukrainians!!! Is it a kind of democracy Please stop this offensive practice. Do block vandals, but not WLM participants!!! And I'm very sorry to spend my time for writing this post third time today! 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Recently administrator Ahonc wrote me hi is not able to do it, because blocking is global. Please do something. 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко bondarean...@gmail.com The problem is that a new account registration is not permitted. And it is impossible to participate without an account! Please fix it. Andrij 2012/9/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Андрій Бондаренко, 12/09/2012 10:48: Please help me to unblock our participant. It's the same global block as before (expires on the 18th). It doesn't prevent account registration, what's the problem? Nemo __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**orghttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- -- Андрій Бондаренко -- -- Андрій Бондаренко -- -- З повагою, Андрій Бондаренко ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] one more blocking
Lodewijk wrote: Like Nemo said in another email, you should probably contact User:Vituzzu or another steward. Federico Leva wrote: This is not the place where to ask unblock, go to https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/SRG https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SRG to contact stewards directly, please. Tomasz wrote: In any case, I can create an account for her/him; please send me the details (desired login and e-mail address) /off-list/ and I will create the account as soon as possible. 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Hi Lodewijk I do understand that you are a volunteer the same way as I am. But you have to understand that if you decide to organize a respectable project - you are responsible for this project, even if you are working as a volunteer. Otherwise simply do not be a volunteer :) But let's stop discussing our persons and let's discuss a problem. What can we do to escape such awful blockings of users who wants to participate and who have never been a spamer or vandal? 2012/9/12 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi Andrij, the way you write your emails, while so many people are trying to help you every time again is not encouraging. You come across as unfriendly, impatient and even rude. Please remember that all the people who have helped you a lot in the past weeks and whose help you seek once again are volunteers. This is a general problem returning in most of your emails. Like Nemo said in another email, you should probably contact User:Vituzzu or another steward. Lodewijk 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко bondarean...@gmail.com This time details are following У вас нема дозволу на створення цього облікового запису з такої причини: Вашу IP-адресу заблоковано на всіх проектах Фонду. Блокування накладено Vituzzu (meta.wikimedia.org). Причина: Cross-wiki spam. Початок: 14:46, 12 вересня 2012 Спливає: 14:46, 19 вересня 2012 Щоб обговорити блокування, можете зв'язатися з Vituzzu. Ви не зможете скористатись функцією Надіслати листа, якщо у ваших налаштуваннях не вказано вашої реальної електронної адреси, або ж на вас накладене блокування з забороною писати листи. Ваша поточна адреса - 46.211.121.98. Будь ласка, надавайте всі вищезазначені деталі при будь-яких зверненнях щодо блокування. 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Hej, What the matter??? Why do you block our participants Please do something to unblock them/ That's ridiculous to block a range of Ukrainians!!! Is it a kind of democracy Please stop this offensive practice. Do block vandals, but not WLM participants!!! And I'm very sorry to spend my time for writing this post third time today! 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко a...@wikimediaukraine.org.ua Recently administrator Ahonc wrote me hi is not able to do it, because blocking is global. Please do something. 2012/9/12 Андрій Бондаренко bondarean...@gmail.com The problem is that a new account registration is not permitted. And it is impossible to participate without an account! Please fix it. Andrij 2012/9/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Андрій Бондаренко, 12/09/2012 10:48: Please help me to unblock our participant. It's the same global block as before (expires on the 18th). It doesn't prevent account registration, what's the problem? Nemo __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**orghttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- -- Андрій Бондаренко -- -- Андрій Бондаренко -- -- З повагою, Андрій Бондаренко ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- -- Андрій Бондаренко ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Slovak WLM
Hi Matej, I'm very glad to hear there's so much interest in organizing Wiki Loves Monuments! While I don't consider it realistic to join in 2012 still, it should definitely be possible to either organize something specifically in Slovakia (using a similar competition model under a different name? You can still use all the software and lessons we learned!) or join again in 2013. If you organize something specific for Slovakia in two or three months, you would still have enough time to organize everything locally. Trying to do that within the WLM framework I expect to be too complicated (while I should compliment you on your lists!). I would of course be happy to help you on your way with that. You can find all documentation on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation which also includes a lot of helpful lessons. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/12 Matej Grochal ggros...@gmail.com Dear colleagues, The Slovak Wikimedia would like to start the Slovak version of WLM. We don't have sponsors, but we thought that we should start somehow. We know that it is a bit late in the game, but we thought: better late than never. Any thoughts? Thanks, Matej Grochal (Jetam2) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Slovak WLM
Hi, if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury. However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/13 Matej Grochal ggros...@gmail.com Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. - What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for the help!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope, Thank you for your support, Matej Grochal (Jetam) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] multiple refnums on US historic districts disables button
ehh, erfgoed-database? Not sure :) This is simply what I'm recalling from conversations last year, but things may have changed since. Lodewijk 2012/9/11 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 11/09/12 08:55, Lodewijk wrote: As far as I know, the only way to make this happen nicely is by uploading it with one ID, and then copypasting the template with different id's. The problem is that apparently the database only can 'remember' the first ID it sees. So best make sure the first one is the most relevant. But in the future it might be that we can actually handle multiple-id. Best, Lodewijk Which database? I have a db prepared to store the monument data, and I did contemplate this case. (It does however, not register monuments on multiple countries, so even though we know of at least one instance, I considered it rare enough not to complicate the schema for that) ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] multiple refnums on US historic districts disables button
A possible solution would be to add an extra parameter: alternative_refnum. You can even display both the refnum and alternative_refnum in the table, but they would be two seperate parameters. Lodewijk 2012/9/10 Peter Ekman pdek...@gmail.com Many US historic districts have had several expansions, which results in multiple reference numbers. In at least two cases, Charleston Historic District in South Carolina, and one earlier, having multiple refnums in the table results in the upload button being disabled. I removed the extra refnums (leaving the first) in both cases and the upload button then worked. Any suggestions for a general fix? Pete User:Smallbones ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] images categories at Commons
Hi Oscar, it is about the /buildings/ of galleries, libraries, archives and museums that are at the same time a monument. Of course people should photograph every glam they can - but only the ones that are also a monument can wín something :) Lodewijk 2012/9/9 Racso ra...@colombia.com I have a couple of questions about the GLAM prize: 1. Does it only take into account *buildings*? Or should I recommend the participants to also photograph the inside (including contained material) of the g/l/a/m's? 2. This may be obvious, but, Must the g/l/a/m's be monuments to participate? Or should I recommend the participants to photograp every g/l/a/m they can? Thanks, Racso 2012/9/8 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Just to add to Tomasz' points (which I agree with): since the GLAM category is created to make judging for the special Europeana sponsored GLAM prize easier, please simply add images to that category if you're in doubt. We can leave it up to the special prize jury to make that judgement call. Most important is that they don't have to dig through /all/ WLM pictures. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/8 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Hi Peter, I have seen the topic of quality judgement of the WLM pictures being brought up in several places (at the Featured Pictures Candidates page on Commons, for instance), so just wanted to make it clear. Obviously the jury members /could/ potentially notice that some of the images are marked with some templates on Commons (if they ever have a look there, that is), but I wouldn't call it a real danger for the neutrality of their choices. Besides, there is no way that we could control and influence the usual procedures of such a big community like that of Commons, so we have to live with whatever they do. As for the GLAM category, it is intended to gather pictures of GLAM /buildings/ (both inside and outside), and not of the objects that are located inside them. So if the picture shows only an object and not the insides of the building (walls, ceilings, etc.), it should not belong to that category. Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Tweets scraping
Hi Emilio, could you add to that: Wikimonuments ? Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/9/9 emijrp emi...@gmail.com Hi; I'm scraping tweets which contain wiki loves monuments or wikilovesmonuments https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/15m_tweets_1/ You can download all them, in the case you want to do something. Regards, emijrp -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] images categories at Commons
Just to add to Tomasz' points (which I agree with): since the GLAM category is created to make judging for the special Europeana sponsored GLAM prize easier, please simply add images to that category if you're in doubt. We can leave it up to the special prize jury to make that judgement call. Most important is that they don't have to dig through /all/ WLM pictures. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/8 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Hi Peter, I have seen the topic of quality judgement of the WLM pictures being brought up in several places (at the Featured Pictures Candidates page on Commons, for instance), so just wanted to make it clear. Obviously the jury members /could/ potentially notice that some of the images are marked with some templates on Commons (if they ever have a look there, that is), but I wouldn't call it a real danger for the neutrality of their choices. Besides, there is no way that we could control and influence the usual procedures of such a big community like that of Commons, so we have to live with whatever they do. As for the GLAM category, it is intended to gather pictures of GLAM /buildings/ (both inside and outside), and not of the objects that are located inside them. So if the picture shows only an object and not the insides of the building (walls, ceilings, etc.), it should not belong to that category. Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photos with watermarks
I agree with Vincenç. The easy explanation is: Sure, you're allowed to submit photos with a watermark. However, because of the free license, we're allowed to remove them. Also, it is very unlikely a watermarked image will win the competition. So if you just want an easy way to donate your pictures and removing watermarks is too much trouble: the pictures are welcome. If you want to win something... it is probably better to remove them. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/7 Vicenç Riullop vriul...@hotmail.com I don't like watermarks either, but following the KISS principle I would say that any image accepted on Commons is acceptable on WLM although watermarks are discouraged and the jury probably will disqualify them. Vicenç -- From: sama...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:08:17 +0200 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Photos with watermarks The Hungarian national contest prohibited watermarks for images last year (and personally I don't like pictures with watermark). In Wikimedia Commons: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Watermarks#Reasons_not_to_upload_watermarked_images * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_guidelines#Image_page_requirements Samat On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Nicu Buculei nicub...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/2012 12:35 AM, Андрій Бондаренко wrote: Hi everyone, Recently one of our participant asked me - could I upload photos with watermarks? He argues that he loose original versions (without watermarks) and their removing demands to much time. What should I answer him? Are photos with watermarks (as theese http://toolserver.org/~**magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?** language=commonsproject=**wikimediacategories=Images_** with_watermarksnegcats=**Images+from+Wiki+Loves+** Monuments+2012ns[6]=1ext_**image_data=1doit=1http://toolserver.org/%7Emagnus/catscan_rewrite.php?language=commonsproject=wikimediacategories=Images_with_watermarksnegcats=Images+from+Wiki+Loves+Monuments+2012ns%5b6%5d=1ext_image_data=1doit=1 ) allowed? I had a look at a few random images there and I can identify a few cases: - real watermarks (didn't find any in the examples) are when a big watermark covers a large and important part of the image, making it unusable (think at the preview images from stock photography sites). those CAN'T be allowed; - signatures, small watermarks in an unobtrusive part of the image (most of the time in a corner). I allow those but discourage them by explaining the uploaders that grace to our free license, anyone is allowed to remove them, so is useless; - some photos have the date watermarked in a corner, this probably happened most of the time in-camera and are unintentional. I feel them annoying but harmless; - i saw a few cases the name of an educational institution there. For those I would ask the uploader if the image is really free (it may be an internal policy to watermark everything at it may forbid derivatives). So in conclusion I do not like watermarks, would alow some, would forbid some, would question further some. Case by case. ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Please put the mobile app banner on your country sites
Hi, 'IN-UT' is the ISO 3166-2:IN code for the state. It should indeed be possible to automatically convert those. The circles are probably more tricky. Before I revamped the tables into the current shape, we needed that to create the unique identifier. Probably it is best to just ignore the circles for the sake of this app - because it will only lead to confusion since some states have them, and some don't. And one of the circles is even names after a city in a different state... Mentioning the district is probably more helpful. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/7 Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in Thanks Jon. It is working :-) 1. I see a state called IN-UT 2. And inside Tamil Nadu .. Instead of Chennai and Thrissur circle it is C and T Can you fix this issues ? Thanks, naveenpf On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Naveen The latest version of the app was released. Please check the latest status with regards to India sub divisions! All the best! Jon On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Naveen This should be solved in the next application update (hopefully later today) Thanks Jon that will really helpful. I disagree with your statement that the app will not be useful - it has a 'find nearby monuments;' feature which should help India Wiki Loves Monumenteers to find monuments on their doorstep so there is no need for them to even use the list! Jon On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Philip/Mathew, In case of India, until monuments list as separated as statewise; it will not be useful. User will be unable to browse 4000+ monuments from single list. Thanks, naveenpf On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: Adding to Phil's note, I think only the International, Israeli and the U.S. sites are currently using a prominent button to encourage downloads of the Android app. If other countries want to do the same, I think it would be excellent. If you don't like the image used on the app with the lightning (I know someone found it too dark), we could do other images or no image at all. For the U.S. site, we substituted an image of the Golden Gate Bridge. http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Anyway, please discuss any concerns with the design or anything else here and let us know if we can help facilitate more promotion of the app through the national sites. Couple of other stories in the past few days that mention the app: http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/4/3291159/wiki-loves-monuments-wikipedia-photo-contest-september-global http://venturebeat.com/2012/08/29/wikipedia-launches-worlds-largest-photo-contest/ thanks! Matthew On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi All, The contest if off to a good start but traction for the mobile app is lagging. So far we have 300+ uploads and about 1500 installs of the app. In some countries, the app will broaden participation, so it is a good idea to let your communities know the app is available. We have created a sample banner here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_mobile_application/Marketing#Editable Which you can modify as desired. The text is editable so it is easy to translate, or feel free to change the text. The download link is in the banner text and graphics and QR code, so don't worry about that. Please let me know if you have any questions. We can help with re-formatting. In addition, we are seeing some mobile/tech press attention in the US, so the app could help your overall PR efforts. For example: http://allthingsd.com/20120904/wikipedia-mounts-massive-monthlong-photo-competition/ Thank you. Phil -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem
people... if there is at some point a discussion worth of being called bikeshedding... it must be this one :) I know we all love legal stuff but lets be pragmetic and just move on. The logo has been designed for these purposes, the intention is clear. Lodewijk 2012/9/5 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com On 5 September 2012 12:11, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Lusitana has just granted the right to use her work in relation to the contest WLM.without credits, so it is actually OK. She did agree not to mention her name when the logo is used in relation to the contest (and she did that in August 2011), but still -- the licence chosen makes it clear that it is required to place a link to its text whenever the image is used. We cannot do that due to space limitation (and I am sure that a link in the alt or title attribution wouldn't count), so we are still violating its terms. Susana would probably need to release the logo into the public domain (or we'll need to change the banners so they link to the licence). -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Copyvio checking
Yes, copyvio's are always a problem - although last year there were /relatively/ (compared to normal commons uploads) few. It seems this year it's a bit more. I would suggest to disqualify early - or else you may forget about it. Some countries used for this purpose a categorization system: they inserted a category through the form automatically (something about 'unchecked') and would simply change that to 'checked' if they checked the image fit the description in the database. L 2012/9/4 Racso ra...@colombia.com I think I'll wait until tomorrow before asking for deletion, to let the participant answer (just in case [?]). I have another question about the topic: should I disqualify invalid images (e.g. from monuments that aren't on the lists) immediately, or wait (until when? the end of the contest?)? Racso 2012/9/3 Racso ra...@colombia.com Hello. I have detected that a participant just uploaded photographs he found on internet, so I must proceed to mark them for deletion. Sigh. My question is, Does someone know about any [semi-]automated tool to verify if uploaded images already existed? I use Google image search, but that tool requires checking single images at a time. Thanks, Racso ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM maps
Hi, yes, they are available on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Philippine_Cultural_Properties but unfortunately without coordinates yet... (those would have to be added by volunteers). Lodewijk 2012/9/4 emijrp emi...@gmail.com 2012/9/3 Emmanuel E. Ramirez Jr. emman.rami...@wikimedia.org.ph Hi, I would like to ask if you can do this for the Philippines? I think what you have done is really helpful. Kindly tell us what you need to create these maps with coordinates. Has Philippines got any list of monuments and coordinates? -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem
I suggest to keep a pragmatic view here. Let's not like real wikipedians go into all details and hurt ourselves here - but keep the spirit of free knowledge in mind. In this case it seems obvious Susana doesn't object - if she did she would have objected long ago and she indeed indicated explicitly that she didn't require naming etc in this context. For the stack, one of the creators of the image clearly objected to its use in this way. Then lets not make a hard deal out of it, and just replace it. It is not like we have a shortage of images. Ideally lets use a PD image (perhaps one of the organizers would like to release one for this purpose?) There is little to win in these detailed discussions. Lodewijk 2012/9/5 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com Hi everyone. Is it necessary to provide attribution and license text URL after every use of CC image? We can make a page 'Copyrights' on wikilovesmonuments.org where every thing will be attributed. I mean the banner stuff, website stuff, etc. Anyway, we'd have to link to this page in the banner or what... On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Platonides and Pete, in any case, we cannot use an image licenced under a Creative Commons licence (which disqualifies almost all pictures from Wiki Loves Monuments), as they all require an attribution (the name or pseudonym of the author/copyright holder) and a URL to the licence text (not the deed!). (Please also note that Susana specifically mentioned she does not need to be attributed to when the WLM logo is used in relation to the contest; however, the licence still requires a working URL to its text, so we are violating its requirements here, too.) I agree that we (the Wikimedia community) should set an example in the usage of freely licenced files, so I am thinking as what we should do here. We have two options: (1) remove the image created by Saibo from the banners (but we should then also remove the WLM logo) or (2) add working links to the images in the banners, and possibly also protect their description pages; this would, however, mean that we'll need to rebuild the templates so the links work for the files as well as for the websites; to do that, we could only use the text as the link. Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM maps
http://www.giswiki.org/hjl_geocoding.htm is probably the best option. The template should already have a variable for lat/lon, and automatically create the coordinates templates from that (this should work properly if you work from the Wikipedia main namespaces). Just remember that if it says W you need to make it negative, and the same for South. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Racso ra...@colombia.com Nice! I think that's just what I need. Thanks! Oscar 2012/9/2 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com Try http://tools.freeside.sk/geolocator/geolocator.html or http://www.giswiki.org/hjl_geocoding.htm You just need to find an object on the map - click it and the page will create for you a filled geolocation template ready to use on Commons. -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Translation issue
I'm afraid my Romanian (or Latin, for that matter) is not good enough to
understand it no.
Lodewijk
2012/9/3 Strainu strain...@gmail.com
Hi,
No ideas on what the error might be?
Thanks,
Strainu
În data de 3 septembrie 2012, 11:43, Strainu strain...@gmail.com a
scris:
Hi,
I currently have the following error in the Wizard:
mwe-upwiz-source-ownwork-assert-cc-by-sa-3.0-ro: Parse error at
position 263 in input: Eu, $2, titularul drepturilor de autor ale
{{PLURAL:$1|acestei lucrări|acestor lucrări}}, ofer oricui dreptul
irevocabil de a folosi {{PLURAL:$1|această lucrare|aceste lucrări}}
sub licența Creative Commons
Atribuire-Distribuire-în-condiții-identice 3.0 România ([ $3 textul
juridic])
and I just can't figure out what the error is (position 263 seems to
be the open round parenthesis). Can someone help?
Thanks,
Strainu
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading
Hi Paul, primarily this question is up to the jury. My personal opinion is that a re-upload of higher quality is simply the same picture and this not a seperate submission. An edited version wouldn't be your own work fully, so wouldn't fit the contest rules. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com One of Belarusian contestants addressed me a mail with a question: may they reupload the same photo with a better quality and what consequences will it have concerning WLM. So, may the participant replace the file uploaded for WLM with the same file of better quality? Will the new file be treated the same as if it was uploaded at the first place? Besides this, I have a question of my own. Let's say, someone submitted a photo for the contest. Then a random Wikimedian uses it in an article. Then he wants to fix it (colors, perspective, whatever) and actually he does it by replacing the original file with a new fixed version of it. What next? Should the jury examine the original version, or the fixed one? If the photo wins, who takes the prize? And so on. -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading
exactly, it depends on the situation :) 2012/9/3 Karthik Nadar karthik...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Like I said: that is very situation specific, and up to the jury to decide. Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the uploader may choose to upload the cropped version. This issue is situational and all should not be ignored. Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi Paul, An edited version wouldn't be your own work fully, so wouldn't fit the contest rules. What then? Should the photo be rejected at all? Oh, by the way, what if the uploader fixes the photo by themselves? Will it yet fit the rules? Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com One of Belarusian contestants addressed me a mail with a question: may they reupload the same photo with a better quality and what consequences will it have concerning WLM. So, may the participant replace the file uploaded for WLM with the same file of better quality? Will the new file be treated the same as if it was uploaded at the first place? Besides this, I have a question of my own. Let's say, someone submitted a photo for the contest. Then a random Wikimedian uses it in an article. Then he wants to fix it (colors, perspective, whatever) and actually he does it by replacing the original file with a new fixed version of it. What next? Should the jury examine the original version, or the fixed one? If the photo wins, who takes the prize? And so on. -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Thanks and regards, (User:Karthikndr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Karthikndr) *Karthik Nadar.* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Acceptable licences (UploadCampaigns options)
Well, although technically possible to print, I do not exclude the possibility that the jury might favor a GFDL-only licensed picture less than a CC BY-SA picture. It definitely makes the image less useful. Anyway - we're bikeshedding. Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com On 02/09/12 20:53, Michael Andersen wrote: Hi The idea was to have a contest where users upload pictures of monuments with a free license. But some free licenses are better than others. What would happen if one of the winners was a GFDL? Would it not mean that we would have to add the whole GFDL text to the calendar and wherever we would like to use the photos? (...) So I think we should make as few exceptions as possible. I think licenses that are more free than Cc-by-sa-3.0 is ok (Cc-Zero and PD-self) but I would not like GFDL for example. Cheers Michael / MGA73 Not really a problem for a calendar. You have the back side available for that. And it's not like saying CC-BY-SA or compatible would be a good move. There are other perfectly good licenses like the Free Art License which are equivalent, and we should not be banning. We are also giving a strong signal for free licenses, even those we may like less by not discriminating them on the contest. ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Generate Upload campaign link based on ID
I'm not sure I understand the question correctly. Yes, it is possible to carry information in the url. Try for example to click the upload image on the right side of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Delhi . That could give for example: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizardcampaign=wlm-inid=N-DL-1descriptionlang=endescription=Bastion%2C+where+a+wall+of+%5B%5BJahanpanah%5D%5D+meets+the+wall+of+Rai+Pithora+fort.lat=lon= which carries the identifier, the description, latitude and longitude. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/4 Ynhockey ynhoc...@gmail.com I think there's no problem to do this with WIkiMarkup in the table row template, using our existing parameters. If anyone does it differently please let us know. —Yan (Ynhockey). On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi, Did one of our many WLM tools offer an option to generate and direct the user to Upload campaign link based on a monument ID? I mean user can enter the ID on our website, and via a WLM web-tool we can direct him with all the data from the monument ID to the upload wizard ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizardcampaign=wlm-ilid= *ID*descriptionlang=hedescription=*(FROMDB)*lat=*(FROMDB)*lon=* (FROMDB)*) Itzik ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] discussion on blog about WLM and free licensing
Yes, I tried to answer some of the constructive questions there, but refrained from participating in the less constructive discussions, as the usual participants there seem to handle that just fine. Very interesting read though! We got 4000+ visits from that website to wikilovesmonuments.org! Lodewijk 2012/9/2 Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org Interesting thread here, if anyone wants to read or contribute. I saw on Piwik that nearly 200 folks come over to the US site from the review and stumbled upon this. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/08/30/wikipedia-launches-historic-monuments-photo-contest-to-expand-commons#comments -Matthew -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Hungary in WLM 2012
Although it is an extremely thrilling topic to discuss, I know that Tamás explored a LOT of options in Hungary. I'm not sure how helpful it is to discuss everything about this specific case again on this mailing list :) Perhaps a wiki page would be more helpful for this purpose, for example [[Commons talk:Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in Hungary]] ? Then it actually gets preserved for a next time. (Some people are complaining about the amount of email, so I'd like to try to focus the list traffic to more directly related topics) Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/1 emijrp emi...@gmail.com Anyway... how can a list of name of monuments and coordinates be copyrightable? That is like a list of municipalities and population data. 2012/9/1 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 01/09/2012 10:42: On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Samat sama...@gmail.com mailto:sama...@gmail.com wrote: ... If we couldn't cooperate with the national office, we could try to collect the list of monuments on community base, while the complete list is on my computer. Funny situation ;) The monuments that were photographed last year should be re-photographable, at least.. What do you mean? If any list has been put on our wikis, that could be used (being CC-BY-SA), but the database protection at least seems to be an obstacle for which they probably don't have any. Nemo __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWikihttp://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapershttp://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Similar banner?
Hi Nkansah, something that might be more interesting, is using the fact that a lot of people will participate. The people who will participate, have shown some interest in Wikimedia. We usually send them a message on their talkpage, asking them to fill out a questionnaire - /after/ the contest. You might be able to do the same with an announcement of your national winners, and do a call to participate in Wikimedia Ghana at the same time. Lodewijk 2012/9/1 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Hi Nkansah, thanks for the message. We achieve that through the CentralNotice feature available for Meta administrators http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice. You can read all about this notice system, and also see the currently running campaigns at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralNotice (marked with a green background). Setting up a CentralNotice campaign does not require too much work once you learn a bit about the software behind it. Unfortunately for the planning Wikimedia chapter for Ghana (but probably more fortunately for the readers of Wikipedia), the usage of CentralNotice is rather limited, only to important notices for the readers of the projects or for the community itself. The usage guidelines for CentralNotice are available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Usage_guidelines. Hope that helps! Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM upload live stream
We had one in the past years too country based - so the script should be lying around still :) Lodewijk 2012/8/31 Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com Hi, Saw that on Twitter [1] : a WLM upload live stream (Only Mobile and Flickr, apparently) http://jonrobson.me.uk/wlm/ Since I did not hear about it before, I figured that would be the case for others as well. :) [1] https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/statuses/241392414407929856 -- Jean-Frédéric ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Largest contest?
Hi all, we're currently extremely busy for preparing the 2012 contest :) I suggest to focus on that and keep discussions like this waiting for a month or two. Not because they're not important, but because they are not time-critical now :) Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/8/31 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com On 31 August 2012 09:32, WereSpielChequers wrote: Very good point, would it be possible to change the rules for next year so that people can load images as and when but only submit them to the contest in September? No. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The Wiki Loves Monuments App is here!
Thanks a lot Siebrand for pushing the translations so well! Thanks a lot Philip as well a LOT for making the app work. We can't have been an easy group for either of you. Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/8/31 Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org Sorry about that, Siebrand. We’ve been squeezing lots of work into very short sprints and your help is most appreciated. The Translatewiki ecosystem is amazing and it is astonishing that translations can be done so quickly. I do understand the normal lead time is two weeks, as opposed to two months, but most of the recent UI changes were not anticipated even two weeks ago. A big thanks to the translation community for jumping on this tight deadline! Phil On Aug 31, 2012 12:52 AM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl wrote: To all that have in the past contributed to translation for the WLM Mobile app: Please update your translations. NOW. DO NOT WAIT! https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate/out-wlm-mobile Translation is currently only complete in German, French, Dutch, Macedonian and Spanish. All other languages have at least 13 untranslated out outdated strings. @phil: I'm very unhappy with the major UI language overhaul and additions that were done last minute. This has left translators no time to localise the app and provide fully localised user experience. But hey, at least in the US people can use it, right?!* Siebrand * This is pissing me offtime and again. Too many people really fail to understand what localisation requires in our movement's ecosystem. On Fri, August 31, 2012 09:38, Philip Chang wrote: Greetings Wiki Loves Monuments Community, The final release of the WLM Android App has been published on the Google Play store! We've made many improvements in the user interface and added some functional enhancements in the past week (and more are coming). Now is the time to download the app from Google Play and tell us if there are any issues before the contest starts in earnest. The main known issues have to do with data in the monument database and country-specific campaign configuration, which affect the way monuments can be found in some countries. We are happy to work with the country organizers on improving these issues, within the realm of what is possible. Here is the link to the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.wlm This version uploads photos to Commons, so it is a good idea to upload photos of real monuments. Please write to us with any comments and give us a chance to make any last-minute fixes. We will update the release as fixes are made. Thank you for your cooperation and support, and let's make 2012 the best year ever! Best regards, The WMF Mobile Team -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Automated voting/screening
Hi, another solution I've heard is setting up a special wiki for this (temporarily), using instant Commons to get all relevant images, and using the tools that they used for POTY. Does that make any sense at all? Lodewijk 2012/8/31 aude aude.w...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Peter Ekman pdek...@gmail.com wrote: Nuno, Thanks for the code. It looked promising, but unfortunately I'm not a programmer and the final product never arrived, and I think we'll have to go manual at this point. To convert your system to our minimum requirements, we'd have to take your single person system and A. Randomly select, 50 or so photos, and have one person rate these, say 1-5. B. Store these results C. give a new screener another 50 or so photos, and store these results, and D. do this so 100,000 photos get rated at least 3 times each, then finally E. Average all the result for each pic. We would need some more time to get this turned into a gadget and the toolserver has been a bit slow for the backend part. I am travelling so unfortunately can't finish with a gadget by today. :( Anyway, I am not sure how practical it is to have ratings for 100,000 photos (each!) x 3 times, so I think we need a simplified process for the US. I was thinking we'd have people nominate photos into another category or something. If there was a way to track which batch of photos have been looked through for nomination, that would be great, and not sure the best way (if any) to do that. Is this a good idea? can someone help set it up? With a nominated set of photos (not sure how many), then a voting tool would be useful, and number of photos manageable. Thoughts? Cheers, Katie Obviously some bells and whistles would have been nice, but that would have worked. Unfortunately it just never got that far. If anybody can deliver that in working order before Sept. 10, please let me know! Pete User:Smallbones -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:24:13 +0100 From: Nuno Tavares nuno.tava...@wikimedia.pt To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Automated voting/screening system Message-ID: 503fbddd.2000...@wikimedia.pt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Peter, Didn't our code help? Could you be more specific why the solution doesn't apply to you? -NT Em 29-08-2012 16:37, Peter Ekman escreveu: It looks like WLM-US is having bad luck coming up with an automated voting/screening system to sort out the large number of photos we expect to have uploaded. Does anybody have any suggestions or technical solutions? Just to give the basics, I think WLM-US has to be prepared to screen 100,000 photos down to the 500 that the jury can deal with directly. That will likely take input from over 50 editors, e.g. the general logged in US population of editors, and take processing from early on in the contest while the contest is still running, e.g. before Sept. 10. Any help appreciated, Pete User:Smallbones ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org @wikimediadc / @wikimania2012 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] The flow of the user (deadline coming)
Thankx, both Panama and Mexico added to http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/english-pages/ :) Lodewijk 2012/8/31 Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/participa/english/ ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Question about links in Upload Campaign
Hi David, unfortunately it is not possible it seems to link from the wizard. However, most monument lists contain links to the upload wizard, which will carry the identifier. So I would like to suggest to as much as possible tell people to /first/ look up their monument, and use the link behind that. Best, Lodewijk 2012/8/31 David Narvaez david.narv...@computer.org Hi, I'm trying to add a link on the Upload Campaign for Panama so that users can look an ID up in the list of monuments. That would be a link to a wiki page but I don't see where to put it: 1. I tried inserting a href=...see here/a into the text for the ID field 2. There's another field named Page name with text for the ID field label. $1 is replaced with the language code but it doesn't look like the text inside the page is wiki-processed so you get to see all the wiki markup instead of the links Does anybody has any idea of what to do here? Has someone tried that in any other campaign? David E. Narvaez ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] ID - where to add them???
I'm sorry, I still don't understand the problem it seems... If I follow Platonides, the actual problem is in your monument lists, and not in the upload form? Lodewijk 2012/9/1 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com In this case placing 'невідомий' (unknown) in the field 'Початкове значення для поля з ID' (Initial value for the ID field) would be the most simple solution. On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: El 31/08/12 23:53, Lodewijk escribió: It seems like you didn't set up the wizard properly. The field name was hard coded, and didn't have a link to a proper mediawiki page as do the other wizards have. I think I fixed this now, please check. Best, Lodewijk The problem is they have monuments without id... Андрій can't you instruct the uploaders to put none or similar? The monuments must have an id should have been somewhere long before this point... ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] time, placement list
Hi, Yes, it is all resolved. Please note that the opening is not so critical as the closing. For the opening being a few hours off is fine - because there will be very few people paying attention yet and having photos ready to upload. At the closing however, the number of uploads per minute can be huge. Lodewijk 2012/9/1 Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org Hi all, Did this get resolved? The time difference is 6 hours between Hawaii and Eastern time zones. Tomasz, can you confirm? thanks! Matthew On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Vicenç Riullop vriul...@hotmail.comwrote: Hawaii don't follow daylight saving time, like New York, thus the difference is 6 hours in winter and 5 in summer. Just to be sure: *Starting time at UTC-10: 12:01 am September 1 in Hawaii = 6:01 am in NYC = 2012-09-01T10:00 UTC *Closing time at UTC-10: 12:01 am October 1 in Hawaii = 6:01 am in NYC = 2012-10-01T10:00 UTC Right? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zones_in_the_United_States Vicenç Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:35:46 +0200 From: platoni...@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] time, placement list On 26/08/12 02:39, Peter Ekman wrote: As far as the time the contest should run in the US, please make it 12:01 am September 1 to 12:01 am October 1 Hawaiian Time, which is 5:01 am Sept 1 to 5:01 am October 1 New York Time. (The :01 is there because 12:00 is considered to be ambiguous for the date in the US - all our laws take effect at 12:01!) 12:01 am. Hawaian time does not seem to be the same as 05:01 am New York Time: TZ=UTC date --date='TZ=Pacific/Honolulu 12:01 am September 1' Sat Sep 1 10:01:00 UTC 2012 TZ=UTC date --date='TZ=America/New_York 05:01 am September 1' Sat Sep 1 09:01:00 UTC 2012 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Translations of wikilovesmonuments.org ongoing posts
News websites can take over this kind of things anyway under the journalism exception in copyright law. Lets not make things more complicated than necessary :) I was assuming you were talking about yourself. 2012/8/30 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com I think we should consider implementing this license on each Wiki Loves Monuments site. Well, for most news sites CC BY is more suitable, isn't it? On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Feel free to translate and share - unfortunately wordpress doesn't allow translations very well on our website, but you're free to republish it elsewhere. Please consider all my texts on the site ccbysa licensed, unless another author is mentioned. Lodewijk 2012/8/30 Paul Selitskas p.selits...@gmail.com Are translations of wikilovesmonuments.org posts allowed? http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/the-winner-goes-to-hong-kong/ is a very good post to share! -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Paul Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selits...@gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Largest contest?
Hi, Geograph is not a contest (it is a project, but you can't win something with it afaik), so we don't have to worry about that. The Guinness Book of World Records has a number in the 120k as the largest - we definitely beat that. We had 168k by the way, not 188k. The only contest that I know that comes close is the Metro Photo Challenge. (from the international news paper) Best, Lodewijk 2012/8/30 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com Hi, Has anyone worked out how many images we need for this to be the world's largest photography contest? I know we got 188,000 last year, and the Geograph is now over 3 million, but I don't know whether there are any contests larger than the Geograph. I think we have a good chance of it being the largest competition of one month's duration, and it would be interesting to know what is currently the most multinational contest. WSC -- Forwarded message -- From: wikimediaannounce-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Date: 29 August 2012 20:30 Subject: WikimediaAnnounce-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12 To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Send WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list submissions to wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimediaannounce-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimediaannounce-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WikimediaAnnounce-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Participants in world?s largest photo contest -- Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 -- will upload images under free license for use on Wikipedia. (Jay Walsh) 2. (press release) Participants in world?s largest photo contest -- Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 -- will upload images under free license for use on Wikipedia. (Jay Walsh) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:46:13 -0700 From: Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Participants in world?s largest photo contest -- Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 -- will upload images under free license for use on Wikipedia. Message-ID: cadmskuekvbwtk_fdk_ytn2a9uspjqotqg+njyyohavystug...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 (This release is also posted on the Wikimedia Foundation's wiki at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/WLM_photo_contest_launches_August_2012 ) *Participants in world?s largest photo contest -- Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 -- will upload images under free license for use on Wikipedia.* *U.S. participants join Wikipedians in more than 30 countries to document historic sites, monuments, and cultural heritage.* San Francisco -- August 29, 2012 -- Wikipedians around the world will participate in the world?s largest photo contest, Wiki Loves Monuments 2012, from September 1st through 30th. Thousands of volunteers in more than 30 countries will upload photos of historic sites throughout the month, making hundreds of thousands of photos available under a free license on Wikipedia?s image database, Wikimedia Commons ( http://commons.wikimedia.org ). In last year?s contest, 5,000 photographers from 18 European countries uploaded more than 168,000 photos. This year?s contest will have significantly greater participation, including the United States and many non-European countries for the first time. Volunteer Wikipedians organize the contest in each country, with the winning photos from national contests considered by an international jury in late October. The international jury will announce the top-ten international photos and the overall best picture winner in early December. ?There are millions of historically and culturally significant monuments and buildings around the world, though most of them still have no freely-available images on the Internet,? said Lodewijk Gelauff, one of the founders of the first Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest in 2010. ?Wiki Loves Monuments is an important way for volunteers around the world to showcase the cultural heritage in their countries and share these images with everyone through Wikipedia.? The photos will be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons under a free license, so they can be used by anybody, for any purpose, as long as the photographer is credited. Many of the photos will appear in Wikipedia, the world?s largest encyclopedia, and all will be available to download at no cost. ?In the U.S., anybody can photograph any of the 87,000 sites on the National Register of Historic Places for this contest,? said Peter Ekman, national coordinator
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Android App - feedback - Serbia
Thanks for the feedback. Could you add it to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_mobile_application/Feedback then the developers can see it too. Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/8/30 Tamara Petrovic bebaua...@gmail.com Hey, I see that you fixed the names of the cities in Serbia when I click on Browse by campaign, so, I don't see the question marks anymore (good job!). But, the problem is that only the first 7 characters of a city name are shown. My other suggestion would be that you leave all the names in latin alphabet, because any foreigners that would want to use the app while travelling through Serbia could have troubles with the cyrillic alphabet. Thanks a lot, you've done a really great job so far! Tamara ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [press] articles from today in Israel
Hi Itzik, I think the most valuable is to have a list of mentions in media - you're correct that scans will indeed not be allowed but you can link to online content. Thanks! Lodewijk 2012/8/28 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il I'm not sure that according to the commons rules we can upload scans, copyright issues, not? - Sent from my mobile device On Aug 28, 2012 11:10 AM, Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi, this looks really good please share the scans and links here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Press_mentions thanks Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2012/8/28 Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il Hi, The Jerusalem post publish today one page article about WLM. I have the scanning if someone want.. but here is the online version: http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=282847 Also, Globes, the largest business magazine, publish 3 page article, showing CEOs from Israel talking about their favorite heritage site. There is not online version, but again, have scanning :) Itzik ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Upload Campaign
I don't know what is better in the long run, I just tried it and it worked
:)
2012/8/27 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com
On 27/08/12 21:49, Lodewijk wrote:
You forgot the /$1 in the top template name. I fixed that.
I'm confused on whether the /$1 should be used or not.
In some cases (eg. Template:Upload campaign use Wiki Loves Monuments/xy)
the {{translated tag|header}} is shown to the user, which is very bad.
Template:Upload campaign header Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 August/xy
seems to use {{Iftemplate|{{translated tag|header to avoid that.
Maybe we should instead try to use template Autotranslation there?
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Hi Nkansah,
the language will depend on your own language settings. If you use commons
in English, it will display in English. If you use it in 'ak' it will
display that if available.
Best,
Lodewijk
2012/8/27 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com
Thank you Lodewijk
I'm happy its now working. But can the language be changed from the 'en'
to the 'ak'?
Every ghanaian who'll upload photos during the contest can read the
english though. However, we wish to have the banner in our local language.
It doesn't change or make more people partake though, but we love to also
have our local language there at least.
;-)
Now its functioning, i'll strictly analyse the settings and see how best
to tweak them to suite what the wlm-gh wants.
Thank you guys
On 8/27/2012 9:30 PM, Lodewijk wrote:
I don't know what is better in the long run, I just tried it and it worked
:)
2012/8/27 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com
On 27/08/12 21:49, Lodewijk wrote:
You forgot the /$1 in the top template name. I fixed that.
I'm confused on whether the /$1 should be used or not.
In some cases (eg. Template:Upload campaign use Wiki Loves Monuments/xy)
the {{translated tag|header}} is shown to the user, which is very bad.
Template:Upload campaign header Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 August/xy
seems to use {{Iftemplate|{{translated tag|header to avoid that.
Maybe we should instead try to use template Autotranslation there?
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM android app translations missing
As I understand it, the Panamese monuments áre now in the database. There seems to be a specific problem for Panama about displaying them in the app. They are trying to figure out why. Best regards, Lodewijk 2012/8/26 David Narvaez david.narv...@computer.org On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: unfortunately your emails on this list are the only ones I have seen so far. As I understand it, the problem is that Panama is not yet in the monument database. Several other countries are missing too. Maarten has created a bugzilla ticket to track the status for each country, Panama's ticket is on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38327 . Once the country is in the database, it should appear automatically in the app. You can create an account on bugzilla and add yourself to the ticket (on the 'cc list') - then you will get an email if there's an update on the ticket. How fast is automatically? Because the ticket was closed as fixed, and after a couple of days and even a new version of the Android app our country is not yest listed (but other countries were added). Am I missing something? David E. Narváez ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Is Ghana taking part?
Hi Rexford, Ghana is not listed there with a link because I haven't been able to find a website for WLM Ghana where it is very clear for participants how to participate in the relevant local language(s) - in your case English I believe. As soon as that is available, I'm happy to add it. Best, Lodewijk 2012/8/26 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexf...@gmail.com Ghana has about 50 items listed in the db of the WLM as per this page: https://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Monuments_** database/Statisticshttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Statistics http://toolserver.org/~**erfgoed/api/api.php?action=** statisticsstcountry=gh**format=htmllimit=0http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/api/api.php?action=statisticsstcountry=ghformat=htmllimit=0 However, I don't find Ghana listed on http://www.wikilovesmonuments.** org/contest/ http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/contest/ in the section of participating countries. Is Ghana really taking part in this year's event? Tell me more... Rexford __**_ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.**wikimedia.orgWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/**wikilovesmonumentshttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.**org http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Google Maps plugin for Wordpress
Hi Andy: Basically the same answer as last year: if anyone is willing to develop the same for OSM (or has developed it and wants to describe) it is all up to the local team to make the choice. We primarily want to make sure the option of showing a map is there. Best, Lodewijk 2012/8/25 Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com Can this use OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Aug 25, 2012 12:17 AM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, it has come to my attention (although I cannot find a mailing list thread about it /yet/) that it was suggested that we should have a Google Maps plugin for Wordpress displaying maps for a certain region (a country/province/county/even municipality), with data being loaded from our erfgoed database. This being said, I have to admit that I am no good programmer, so I'd like to point you to an existing example of such a solution, which was developed last year by Nuno Tavares for use in the 2011 WLM in Portugal -- see http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.pt/monumentos.php. From the source code I can see that the maps are being loaded in a frame (iframe /) with the help of a PHP script; but taking all the technical details aside, this is a great tool with a wonderful potential to be used on the national sites of the participating countries. So, my question here is: have you heard of such a plugin (it's always safe to ask, I presume :-)? If it doesn't exist yet, is there a volunteer here who might be willing to spend some time developing it? (I have no idea how hard it might be to create it.) What do you think about such a tool -- would you, as a national WLM organiser, use it on your website? Please let me know! Thanks, Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
