Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
I have used them in the past and they were fantastic! I don't think I ever had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found. I connected to them in St. Louis for what it's worth -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Greene Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly
Saw this once when I was masquerading ALL of my clients to one IP address. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Theis Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly This all started last Wednesday. We have had about 15 WiFi customers that are all getting the same symptoms. Pages will not load properly (attached screenshots). i.e. youtube.com video boxes are just solid black with no way to play, this includes videos on msn, yahoo, etc. Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached, ignore the teamviewer box on the images). If someone is able to login to the yahoo email they cannot check boxes to delete messages and with hotmail they cannot select the emails at all. We have not been able to isolate any commonalities between the customer's computers, operating systems, antivirus software, routers, radios, frequency, and even access points. At one point, we thought that we had the problem narrowed down to Netgear routers but after having a customer bypass it, issue still occurred. One of the customers had a computer consultant come look at their system and when they switched to the consultants MyFi the problem stopped... Then as soon as they went back onto our WiFi connection, the problem returned. Has anyone had something like this happen to your network? Any ideas on where to look next? -- Thanks! Mark Theis Chief Technology Officer Southern California Telephone Energy - SCTE 1278 Glenneyre Street #76 Laguna Beach, CA 92651 Direct: 951.294.5112 | Cell: 951.545.1013 | Fax: 949.715.5511 http://socaltelephone.com inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Las Vegas WISPs
Anyone operating in or near Vegas mind to hit me offlist please? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
We were using Deliberant AP Duos. Worked it out with our city that they could bring power to a box, spliced into a cut-off computer power cord that plugged right into our POE device. Worked really well. I think they would charge us $50 one time for the setup and then $50/yr for pole rental. Have used DigitalPath equipment as well. They have a nice setup, but performance wasn’t what we wanted and it is VERY proprietary and expensive on a monthly basis. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters You can order them online. They are about 50 in qty. I'm looking for a source for just the adapter so if you stumble across one let me know. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On May 3, 2011, at 4:42 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Tropos had a unit as well. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a streetlight to get power. -- Original Message -- From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400 Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch recommendation
The one I'm looking at has all 24 ports 10/100/1000. Appreciate this one too though - for the price difference we may stick with 10/100 for now --- Original Message --- From: Travis Johnson[mailto:t...@ida.net] Sent: 4/25/2011 10:39:20 AM To : wireless@wispa.org Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch recommendation Sorry guess the one I got was a little different: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122177 Not sure what's different about this one vs. yours... other than double the price. :) Travis Microserv On 4/25/2011 9:24 AM, ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote: We like that one, and I've always had good luck with Netgear, but also open to other suggestions. Where did you get it for $350? Cheapest I can find is in the $600 range... --- Original Message --- From: Travis Johnson[ mailto:t...@ida.net ] Sent: 4/25/2011 10:19:42 AM To : wireless@wispa.org Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [WISPA] 24port POE switch recommendation Why not the Netgear switch you listed? We just installed one and it seems to work great, especially for $350 for 24 ports that are PoE, with GigE uplinks. Travis Microserv On 4/25/2011 9:11 AM, ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote: I know this is slightly OT, but anyone have a recommendation for a 24-port POE switch - similar to the NETGEAR GS724TP-100NAS, or possibly two 8-port switches. Prefer something managed but not 100% necessary. Will be used to run POE powered VoIP phones primarily. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Colo DNS
I know this is a bit OT, but. I'm looking for options for DNS redundancy. In a nutshell, we have two datacenters in two different cities. We need to have some redundancy for our publicly accessible servers. We do NOT want to do round-robin DNS, and auto-failover options are either not available or too costly at this time - we will make manual DNS changes as needed if our primary datacenter goes down. I'm looking for some place that I can offers either a virtual server, or that will do DNS hosting that is located in a highly redundant facility. Prefer something on clustered servers in a colo center, NOT in the Dallas metroplex. We want something totally independent of our two current data centers. Any recommendations? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colo DNS
Thanks all. Reliability is a MUST. Have talked to Rackspace - so far they seem to have the best deal. Very reasonable for a Windows based Virtual server From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colo DNS On 5 April 2011 17:00, Jason Hensley ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote: I know this is a bit OT, but. I'm looking for options for DNS redundancy. In a nutshell, we have two datacenters in two different cities. We need to have some redundancy for our publicly accessible servers. We do NOT want to do round-robin DNS, and auto-failover options are either not available or too costly at this time - we will make manual DNS changes as needed if our primary datacenter goes down. I'm looking for some place that I can offers either a virtual server, or that will do DNS hosting that is located in a highly redundant facility. Prefer something on clustered servers in a colo center, NOT in the Dallas metroplex. We want something totally independent of our two current data centers. Any recommendations? Thanks! We use VPS.net for offsite servers. Can't say super good things about their reliability, but the flexibility is nice, and they seem to be getting their act together. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is this?
These are very nice if you can get them to work. I had one but had a LOT of issues with it. Didn't spend a lot of time on it, and wish I had it back now, but yeah, it would be sweet... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess @ LTI Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is this? A 16 Port KVM with IP access :) You shuld be able to hook 16 servers up, and use a web page, or other IP connection to connect to it :) --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: December 16, 2010 12:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What is this? DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS I just found one of these literally laying here. Can anyone tell a technology impaired person what it is? Is it still something of value? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset?
I would second the Mikrotik option. Very easy and very customizable. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:59 AM To: wil...@optimumwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How can I serve pages on frameset? Mikrotik Hotspot offers everything you are looking for. Rotates advertisements, has walled-garden, etc. On 12/6/2010 8:23 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote: Hello. I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this issue, if is not then, please apologize. I have a small WISP in my town and I would like to offer free internet service at coffee shops, restaurant, and other public places but, this free service will have its limitations: All pages would have an advertisement or promotion on top just like NetZero used to do in the past. I think this is done with frameset but, don't know how to force this for all the pages. I would like to do this with php/mysql and if the user tries to remove the frame then maybe redirect them to pay per hour/day etc service. I have a linux gateway that runs squid and would like certain ip addresses (free ones) to view pages with this promo on top or even have pop ups from time to time whichever is easier. Thinking about it, maybe this can be done on apache server. Can this be done? If so, can you please provide any suggestions? Thanks in advanced for your help. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software
www.easeus.com - data recovery wizard - can't beat it for the price. Will recover even after multiple reformats. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software Marlon, It depends on what you mean by reload windows. You might need a file recovery program such as Data Recovery Wizard, etc. Or it may be as simple as rolling it back to an earlier restore date. For transferring files, I use an invaluable tool: http://thetornado.com - so easy a chimp can do it! On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Hi All, I have a customer that decided to reload windows. They now have no family pictures left. ug I've told them to leave the computer off till I can figure out how to get the files back. My plan is to get a USB hard drive adapter and use that to pull off any pics I can find. Anyone know of a good program that'll dig through the drive and look for jpgs and such? thanks marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
Platypus 7 will be out in January and supposedly is going to include some of the things that have been missing. I know that Wombat (the help desk system) will now be built into it as opposed to being an add-on component. They are also touting improved services and features specifically for WISP's. Will have to wait until Jan to see I guess. I've personally been very pleased with Platypus for the past 6 years. I've been anxious for a new full-version since Tucows bought them to see what it will be like, and am really excited about version 7 coming out. I just hope I'm not let down too much... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems To do everything at once, your options are Powercode and Azotel. Bits and pieces will require an expert on site (Freeside, Platypus, etc). Platypus is not a back end system so it doesn't compare to Powercode. Platypus only bills, but has some plugins to work with some things here and there. I am happy with Powercode. It does all the things you listed. Has really good tools for Ubiquiti and Canopy (auto provisioning, BAM, etc). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Shane MacDonald wi...@kpperformance.ca wrote: Has any of you ever tired Powercode as a backend systems? Does anyone have experience with it compared to Platypus? We have a number of customers ranging between the 300 to 700 clients. I am trying to find a solution I maybe able to recommend them. Billing is an important piece but it also needs to have a ticketing system, be able to monitor clients, record history, etc. The two above I have received the most endorsements for and just wonder which maybe better. Shane KP Performance On 24-Aug-10, at 10:18 AM, Jon Auer wrote: Unfortunately that's a fact of life of enterprise software. Any sufficiently powerfully piece of software will require a lot of customization to do exactly what you want. Witness all the Oracle/PeopleSoft/SAP consultants. :-/ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: This is where a single system still don't do everything needed. Kinda stinks. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems Chuck, would you be willing to share or sell your code? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Inventory stuff? Gerard has built some custom PHP scripts to do some neat things...and I have done some as well. Problem is, we keep saying ooh it'd be neat to do this... and then we go and do it. So our Platypus installation isn't the norm at all. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Chuck - did you ever get an automated system for your network equipment? I thought you were working on something to do all that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: We use Platypus as well. The cost is well worth it, and is cheaper than most. $100/mth for up to 1,000 customers, $200/mth for 5000 customers. It integrates with IPPay flawlessly. It has the capability to do a lot of customizing. $2000 for a full 2 day training course, in your office if you can't figure it out. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: +1 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems Have you looked at Platypus? Costs less, does more, scales big, and is a proven solution (I've been using for 13 years, since 1997). Dave On Aug 22, 2010 7:50 PM, tfad...@coastinet.com wrote: I have been using Quickbooks memorized transactions since 2001, I added a JFFNMS monitoring server in 2004, a Scrutinizer Netflow server in 2007 We currently have 700+ customers My main problem with Quickbooks for billing
Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
Thought I would just chime back in a little bit on this subject: No experience with Powercode, but with Platypus we can do RADIUS (PPPoE) authentication and control the profiles from within Platypus with account types, assign the appropriate rate limiting, static IP addresses, etc etc - everything controlled within Platypus. Took a little tweaking to get this to work with VOP RADIUS and Mikrotik, but we made it happen (had more to do with Mikrotik and VOP than it did Platypus though). Probably going to move to FreeRadius sometime soon as VOPRadius is no longer a supported product. We're integrated with ModusMail as well, so all email management is within Platypus. We have been using Wombat for quite some time and love it. Fantastic that it's now going to be an integrated part of Platypus. Had a little learning curve at first, but the last revision of it made it WAY more user friendly. Using IPPay now for CC billing - integrated into Platypus. We use Tucows / Platypus for paper statements - click three buttons and our printing is sent off for us at VERY reasonable rates. Monitoring is still not there within Plat though, but I have a feeling it's just a matter of time. We've also had difficulty getting Plat to do everything we want with our web hosting customers from within Plat itself, but it's not that big of a deal to do the things we need to do manually for our size web hosting operation. If we had hundreds of customers we'd integrate with a control panel that works with Platypus as well. Online customer pages, online staff use pages, online knowledgebase, and more - all integrated with Platypus. Hope all this info helps out a little bit. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems LOL that reminds me of Beavis Butthead, where all things in the world are lumped into two categories: This RULES and THIS SUCKS. Tony, your network may be much bigger than mine so billing problems show up more frequently, but, IMHO, billing is alright, not great, not perfect, just good. It's not an accounting package, and our bookkeeper seems to get what she needs out of it to do the books every month. About half of my customers pay with a check, and we put it in through Powercode, so I think your comment about forget it in powercode is a little extreme. On 12/2/2010 1:00 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: Powercode may be great with the BMU, but as for a billing system is really sucks! Forget about basic accounting reports and simply things like a check deposit. Yes, customers still pay with a check. Forget about it in powercode! I agree. Do NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you intend to integrate with the BMU (bandwidth) management. That's where the real power is, though we're having problems still, with about 5 percent of our customers (those who have remote subnets, like a /30 or /29 or /24). Also some little things. Don't get me wrong, the product is usable and valuable. It's just that with what they want to charge for it these days, I expect for EVERYTHING to work, in MY environment, and for there to be excellent support. We're talking over $1200/mo for the number of subs that I have. For that cost, I should have .15 of a programmer dedicated to fixing my problems, all day, every day. On 12/2/2010 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I believe that a major turn will be the Maxx. I don't understand how so much could be done via shell to begin with (Imagestream). The bmu is what makes the product work for your business. If you just do tickets, bills and such you're wasting your money. I care most about getting it done. Phone, email, morse code I don't care. On Dec 2, 2010 3:12 PM, Mark Nash mailto:markl...@uwol.net markl...@uwol.net wrote: Dude, talk with Josh more before you decide that you don't go with them. There's GOT to be something he's doing that I'm not. I've got alot invested in PowerCode, and I wish it would turn the corner for me but it hasn't. On 12/2/2010 12:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: That is hilarious. I just tried it and you weren't joking. I was going to inquire about pricing but guess I won't. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Mark Nash mailto:markl...@uwol.net markl...@uwol.net wrote: Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I just tried calling their sales line. 920-351-1010. Go ahead, call it. I dare you. If I had a phone system like theirs I would have been out of business long ago... Their MAIN greeting sounds like it was recorded A) on a speakerphone and B) in a room with about 50 servers running with 10 fans each. Then you press 1 for Sales and go immediately to voicemail. Try to hit 0 for the operator and you get mailbox
Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month
I'm curious if this ever got fixed and what the cause was? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month Look for an internal wireless system that's drowning out the AP. Think x10 camera or other similar system. Do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can look with? marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] Weird one of the month Help. I sent a Trendnet 432 SOHO wireless router with the installer to a customer. He hooked it up, couldn't connect. Does not show in list of available APs on his laptop or the customer's laptop. Must be DOA. Send another one. Customer not home so installer left it. Fine, customer can hook it up. Customer calls, can't make it work. I stop in and it doesn't show up on my laptop or her laptop. Two of them DOA seems unlikely, but ... I setup another one. Take it to customer house. Can't see it. Moved it to another room. Still doesn't show up. Get my laptop. Same thing. Now I am sure it is something else because I don't have 3 DOA units. Haven't had that many in 4 years or whatever it is of using these. I just setup the second one on the test bench. It is working fine. Connected with my laptop and passes traffic just like it should. What do I need to look for at the customer house that would make 3 routers not show up on multiple computers when doing a scan for wireless networks? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail
Hmm, I ran into issues with NAT'ing that many customers too. I had to break it out better than what I had. My issues were similar to what you're seeing - just really unpredictable behavior from some sites. Was going over the max possible NAT connections. I'm pretty sure this was on a Mikrotik at the time, but it's been a few years back so I can't remember all the details. With this many customers I would be looking at something better than ADSL connections. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Optimum Wireless Services Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail Yes. I'm doing NAT for the entire network. Someone suggested to upgrade to the squid ver 3.1. I was using 3.0.24. Upgraded and will run the newer version and see how things work. I need squid on the network to save a little bit of bw. Also I'm running videocache which needs squid. I'll let you know how things go from here. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 09:57 -0600, Matt wrote: profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3 5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120 Just curious, do you NAT everyone? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations
I would personally run far away from Dell. They used to be rebranded Lexmarks, but were proprietary in their ink config. Their cartridges and toner seem to be more expensive than some of the others and like someone else mentioned, hard to come by without ordering direct from Dell. We have had great luck over the years with HP, but I agree that some of the later stuff has been a little shaky. I'll add one more plus for Epson - they seem to really be moving to the head of the pack with inkjet and officejet level printers. IMHO HP is still then best in the laser printers though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations I was considering their Office Jet Laser series, but was hesitant to spend even more money on an HP when they've continually failed me. One of my clients has dozens of the Dell laser printers and MFPs. They seem to do well for them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/23/2010 8:32 AM, Robert West wrote: I see the same issues with the OfficeJets but only with the Inkjet models. The laser models work flawlessly for me but they are only black and white, at least the ones I have. I only use the InkJet Hp for printing of maps and it's usually a fight even with a static IP set in the thing. As far as Dell, they used to be made by Lexmark but I've seen some that were HP. I'd actually steer clear of Dell and just go with whoever makes the Dell model you're looking at due to their hard to find proprietary ink. I HAVE had some luck with the Kodak printers now that they seem to have their firmware figured out. The ink is way cheap as a bonus. Not a heavy duty machine but they seem to do the job. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printer recommendations I've used HP OfficeJets for most of the previous decade. I've used HP printers period for... 20 years? However, the OfficeJets continue to have paper handling and other issues. They are used far less than their service duty allows. I also have a problem with the printer disappearing on some computers. I was recommended to Dell all in one printers, but their user interface for the scanning, faxing, etc. features is horrible. I need something that works, does copy, fax, scan, print, and is easy enough for non-techies to use. Recommendations? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Equipment list?
I don't see one at WISPA. Is there an active equipment (buying / selling) list anywhere? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Equipment list?
Hmm, I'm in need of an ODH24-9 or something similar. Anyone have one they want to get rid of? Hit me offlist if you've got one please. From: RafmanR [mailto:shortwa...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:53 AM To: ja...@jaggartech.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equipment list? http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 - http://www.rafwireless.com http://livestream.com/rafwireless http://www.youtube.com/user/Rafmanne On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:47, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I don't see one at WISPA. Is there an active equipment (buying / selling) list anywhere? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month
Check for wireless cameras in their house. We've seen those (especially those cheap X10 type cameras) absolutely kill all 2.4 anywhere near them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Weird one of the month Help. I sent a Trendnet 432 SOHO wireless router with the installer to a customer. He hooked it up, couldn't connect. Does not show in list of available APs on his laptop or the customer's laptop. Must be DOA. Send another one. Customer not home so installer left it. Fine, customer can hook it up. Customer calls, can't make it work. I stop in and it doesn't show up on my laptop or her laptop. Two of them DOA seems unlikely, but ... I setup another one. Take it to customer house. Can't see it. Moved it to another room. Still doesn't show up. Get my laptop. Same thing. Now I am sure it is something else because I don't have 3 DOA units. Haven't had that many in 4 years or whatever it is of using these. I just setup the second one on the test bench. It is working fine. Connected with my laptop and passes traffic just like it should. What do I need to look for at the customer house that would make 3 routers not show up on multiple computers when doing a scan for wireless networks? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee
Wow, so I get free radios?? Hey, UBNT, I want 1500 XR3's!!! Sorry, I couldn't resist.. J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee After the 200.00, there is no fee for the actual radios. Not a bad deal, actually Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 License fee $200 Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: What is the #.65 license fee? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Concur on this as well. Have run it on W2K3 server and on WinXP and have never had it lock up on those. It's my understanding though, and I may be wrong on this, that the 2GB database limit has been introduced with version 5, but again, I may be wrong on this. There was a thread on this a week or two ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Same here. I figure everyone else must be using a different Dude than I am. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/15/2010 11:03 PM, RickG wrote: Never, and I mean never, has Dude locked on my Win 2003 server. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Dude makes it much easier for support staff to properly support the network and provides all sorts of stats to prove issue to customers. We do however have issues with Dude locking up on both WinXP and RouterOS when the back-end database gets to 2GB. _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 15 November 2010 18:40 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude
Had trouble with it locking up on RouterOS, but that was a couple of versions ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I hated it on both - RouterOS works for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: One quick thing, and I don't have experience with Nagios, but I know trying to get Dude to run on Linux for me was a nightmare. We scrapped that pretty quickly and put it back on an XP Pro system. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nagios vs. The Dude I'd like to hear from people who have switched from one of these free products to the other. I'm considering a switch from Nagios to The Dude myself, but I'd like to hear pros cons of either. What did you switch from/to, and why? Thanks ! Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
I have considered doing this but have not yet implemented. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts Customer LOVE options to fit their particular needs and budget. Therefore, we offer multiple options including no agreement (month-to-month) or term agreements up to two years with discounts depending on the length or terms. This is viewed as a positive because of the flexibility. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service contracts
Well, personally we just did away with contracts. They became cumbersome and almost impossible to enforce and the customers were just skipping town without paying anyway. We tout this as a positive to our customers - that even though they have to pay a setup / install fee, we don't lock them into a long-term agreement. Works GREAT for our college customers. Our agreement is one piece of paper, info on both sides. It lays out just the basics of what we're providing, as well as the penalties if they don't return their equipment when they're done with the service, and then references our TOS for more info. Our installer fills it out with their info onsite, shows them the speedtest results, includes that on the sheet, gets customers signature and check (or cash) and they are done. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Don Grossman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service contracts How do you work that with outside collection agencies when they skip? Our collection agency wants something stating the customer in fact agreed to the terms. Don On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Yes...everything electronically. Cameron On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: All the other service providers such as DSL and cable are looking to lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that cellular, but I don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand the similarities that there is a common need to get into a term agreement to have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping around playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck savings when the service providers spend a lot of money on their install. The customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get from the cable company or phone company talking about introductory prices or prices without the fees added, at least till their contract period is winding down. We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at it, but the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's hands. Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in saving paper. We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly higher setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them and when. We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers don't follow through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can email the customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the van for customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we receive a contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is a problem we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a contract for reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail them a photocopy of the one they signed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter
Wow, this is a great looking piece of software. Does it work as well as it looks? They're obviously not touting themselves for large organizations but for a small office that doesn't want to fork out $1500 for a Sonicwall or something similar this might be just want they need. Thanks for the info! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:42 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter ClearOS - CentOS based and very clean web interface. if you want updates to dansguardian rules you have to pay for a subscription. On 11/07/2010 06:41 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: untangle.com ? -- Original Message -- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:49:58 -0800 Recommendations on content filtering software? I'm aware of OpenDNS, thanks.. `S Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter
To answer your question from my end, I've had great luck with Sonicwalls and their content filtering. For a very large enterprise it can tend to get a bit costly, but it works great. I'm not a fan of their stuff for a head-end router though, but for content filtering it does pretty good - especially if you need to integrate it with Active Directory. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Recommendations on content filtering software? I'm aware of OpenDNS, thanks.. `S WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NS2 with 24v
Will an NS2 run on 24v or will it fry it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webcam
Our local radio station puts access to the cameras on their web site and then sells advertising / sponsorship for them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam Would love to put cammers, but haven't found a way to have them paid for or justify. Has anyone found grants, or tv station that what would pay for the upfront cost? Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Webcam I'm interested in putting one to two cameras at each tower then having them stream into a single DVR at our head-end. How do we accomplish that? On 10/26/2010 8:01 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Axis camera WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webcam
If money is not an issue then an Axis camera is GREAT. But, I've done a cheap setup too with a $100 camera and windows media encoder streaming to windows media server. Works great until there is a blip in connectivity and the encoder loses connection to the server. Encoder has to be restarted. I've put in a nightly reboot routine to counteract that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Webcam A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their website. Any suggestions on hardware and configuration? Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue? I’ve been hesitant to move to it since it’s still beta. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling, don't overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I do auto download on the updates, but I install them myself - normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. Hardware firewall - or something dedicated to firewalling. Windows firewall sucks - not very configurable and gets in the way when you don't want it to, and won't move out of the way when you do want it to. Avira is fantastic and we're migrating all of our commercial stuff to it (paid version). Have had more than one instance now of a suspicious file on a customer's pc that we upload to www.virustotal.com and Avira was the only one that picked up on it being a bad file. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Do you recommend turning on automatic updates? Software or hardware firewall? Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for antivirus). It's the best I've used. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling, don't overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag
Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater
Or just get a Deliberant Duo and be done with it... :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Moyer Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: But I think in the open mesh thing the units are in the ad-hoc mode. I thought someone said there was some way for the unit to repeat an AP. You can bridge the units together using WDS. I'm *pretty sure* that you can connect them back to back with cat5 to get basically a dual radio setup and push full speed over one hop: base unit = wds backhaul = receiver wds = ubnt configured as access point If you go ad hoc, you'll lose 50% of your speed over a one hop link. If you have a cheap linksys router, you can create a triple radio and go full speed up to 4 or 5 hops. I've done this with Engenius gear (with 5ghz for the backhaul), I learned it from a guy who has done it several hops deep with the Ubiquiti gear. Greg On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: You mean like open mesh with picos? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater I think the OpenWRT image will do that, but the stock firmware will not. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT repeater Yeah, not that either. I must have dreamt there was a way to use UBNT gear as a repeater/extender. Greg On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:23 PM, RickG wrote: Not looking good for this: http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24089highlight=repeater On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I remember (I think) reading on this forum about how to use a UBNT radio as a repeater (not WDS) by leaving the SSID blank and choosing Station mode. Can anyone tell me how to do that? I'm near an open network (no encryption) and I have permission to extend it. Can't do WDS, the existing AP doesn't support it. Thanks! Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo RMA process lately....
One more reason I'm glad I ditched Tranzeo and went to Deliberant. No RMA issues at all, and the cost is less. $79 CPE with internal 14db antenna AND an external connector, and like someone else mentioned, no more resetting radio all the time!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo RMA process lately Not sure why you don't just toss the Tranzeo and buy a Ubnt - same features, same cost (assuming you're paying shipping and waiting months and arguing via email). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Has anyone else been having problems getting Tranzeo RMA's through lately or even a response from them? I usually only RMA 1 at a time but waited until I got 4 radios this last time and filled out the RMA and got an email from their tech saying I must have the radio LED's turned off or something. (which I can assure you I don't) I emailed them back twice and 2 weeks later have still gotten no response. Its almost like they are avoiding fixing these radio's. I don't even know if people are even buying Tranzeo anymore with Ubiquity around. Looks like Tranzeo's stock has been tanking the past 12 months, I suppose that's why my RMA's haven't been coming through.. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth
I just tell them that price is part of the reason that we're looking and that we are getting prices from multiple vendors but that I'm not willing to share what I'm paying right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Roger Howard Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, won't they just undercut it by a little just to get your business? Seems like a strange way of doing business to ask what you're paying for something before giving you a quote. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
We've started doing the door hangars as well. When we do an install, installer will put a hanger on neighbors doors where we KNOW we can get them service. Beats all of the unknown random callers that we have to go a site survey before we know if we can service them. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement We door hang. For sure links, we hang a flyer on their door on the OUTSIDE of their mailbox Never the inside, bad mojo with the post office by putting INSIDE the box. We use the circle sticklers by Avery and print them up on the laser printer. Essentially. FREE! As Blair condensed, Newspaper sucks,. Road signs, forget about it. Direct mail, $$$ Tried billboards ONCE, YIKE$! The door hanging gives us the biggest bang for the buck by far. I like cheap. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement for us... Newspaper -- 1 ... 24 weeks... 2 responses road signs -- 5 if by this you mean yard signs like real estate agents use Direct mail -- 9 But see below... demo trucks -- never tried billboards -- never tried word of mouth -- 9 We started direct mail this year... But we do it differently than many. we drive by and record addresses and rate them as low cost, medium cost or high cost install. Then we mail pre-qualified for service flyer's to all the low cost ones offering $50 off the install good for 2-4 weeks. The response rate is around 4% Marco Coelho wrote: What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Basically same here for us, except that we charge a full install fee for
moves.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
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From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Good source for monitoring status of major nationwide networks
What are some good sources for this? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile
At my house, I live in a hole with about ¾ mile of solid oak trees between me and the tower. 2.4Ghz in the late spring (meaning good, saturated leaves) I can run 4meg. When it rains, service will be spotty and sometimes drop. I would never install a customer in those conditions. We do have a few customers through trees, but with our noise floor here, we dont do much more than just a few trees at a pretty close proximity to our APs. I wouldnt even think about 5Ghz through trees at all. 3650 havent done anything through trees yet so I dont know. 900Mhz worked great for us for awhile but noise floor went too high and couldnt work around it so we pulled all our 900 equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick White Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile So what kinds of distances are people currently going through trees, and what kinds of signals, CCQ, throughput, etc. are you seeing? I guess I'm looking for success stories. I need to sell this to the partners. I know it can be done, and I'm fairly confident it will work in this situation, but they aren't. I've found a few instances online of people going 1 mile with 5.8 through some trees and still pulling off a -65 and 20Mbps of throughput - this was PTP. I know 3.65Ghz is supposed to be somewhere between 2.4 and 5.8 in terms of tree penetration, but I'm thinking this might be a good place to use 3.65, simply because of the lack of noise. I have never worked with 900Mhz as of yet. This was our initial alternative, but there is the added cost of deployment - $160 for a LocoM900 vs $80 for a NanobridgeM2. Literally doubles our ROI. On 9/13/2010 3:58 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: 3.65 is limited in that you can only go as high as 99 feet I believe - someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you are using airmax - 2.4 should help 5ghz you may have some issues w/ trees however My suggestion is a mix - I noticed that you have not mentioned 900mhz 900 and trees especially at that distance - sub 1 mile is awesome - but doubt you will see the 10mbps speeds you wish. 5ghz is your best choice - if you can use it. setting up both 2.4 and 5ghz sectors may help - double the cost - but in the end - would allow you the most flexibility On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Nick White wrote: om this tower, no one in town would be more than .75 miles away. I'm thinking 10Mhz channels - 1, 6, 11. If we do this, I will likely use the UBNT shields that I've seen for sale with three 120deg sectors. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Anyone peer with Cogent in St Louis? Goods? Bads? Have heard mostly positive but real-world feedback would be great. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
I dropped Tranzeo several years ago after many runs of this. I got tired of it and as a small operator I couldn't be sending radios back all the time. Went to Deliberant and got a much better, more stable product with MANY more options and features and much more flexibility. Plus, they are cheaper!! That was one of the best decisions I've ever made since I've been doing wireless. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups Grin. Thanks for passing it along Patrick. We've had the problem since before you worked for them though. Several years in fact. I still have a gaggle of these units sitting on the shelf. They ONLY get used for sites with 5 or less subscribers though. marlon - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups Just as an FYI folks, After seeing this thread I sent it to the Tranzeo guys and they taking a look at it. Please do, when you encounter issues such as these, report them to your vendor (regardless of brand). Getting a record, finding trends, etc. is the only way a vendor can uncover issues, then do root cause analysis and create fixes as necessary. I appreciate the value of seeking out list advice, but please remember to give your vendor a head's up too. Matt, et al, thanks for offering your advice. I passed those along as well. Cheers, Patrick Patrick Leary Aperto Networks (A Tranzeo Company) 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups If you are using Tranzeo TR5a, 49a or AP6000 series radios running in PtP mode on an all bridged network, they will lock up. Newer firmware helps, but does not completely resolve this problem. I ran in to this very problem recently while troubleshooting a client's network. It may not be the perfect solution, but one thing you could do that is quick an simple is install some of the Digital Loggers auto-ping/reboot devices at any site where you have a Tranzeo backhaul. Turn on the autoping to test for the opposite side of the link and you won't have to make any more drives. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/31/2010 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I have 400+ Tranzeo CPQ's out and never have an issue with them not rebooting after a change. However I would never use a Tranzeo for an AP. Mikrotik AP to Tranzeo = stability and control. More info please: Models, Firmware, AP connecting to. (did you know there is a Tranzeo list on the WISPA list serve?) Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error
Haha - too funny!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Funny Website Error Monday Funny Use mozilla firefox and go to: https://whitehouse.gov It gives you an Untrusted Error... No shit Sherlock! Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Yes, clear LOS. Considered the Nanostations. Prefer a Mikrotik solution though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Never used the Loco's or Nano's, so forgive me for my ignorance on this, but will the power on these go down to something like 5db or so? Have run into a challenge on some other radios that won't go below 17db, and that level would be WAY too hot for this distance. Thanks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Ya, but I like the extra bells whistles on the NS2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: 150'? Would't the Loco be better? It's a little less sensitive too on RX which might help prevent picking up interference, reflections etc. Greg On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:08 PM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Wall shot is not workable either. These are old buildings that 2.4 does not penetrate at all (and 900 is out of the question) - we've already tried because the cable runs are just a real big pain!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Then you have to have two, client and ap . if you are only going thru say one wall, how about a single ruckus, the packman one. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation The Nanos have a hard time adjusting power down that far, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:38 AM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation
Not in this case. Cables are already run so we're good there. Thanks though! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Is there Coax or POTS in the building? A couple of Etherther Extenders can take care of difficult cable runs. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Wall shot is not workable either. These are old buildings that 2.4 does not penetrate at all (and 900 is out of the question) - we've already tried because the cable runs are just a real big pain!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Then you have to have two, client and ap . if you are only going thru say one wall, how about a single ruckus, the packman one. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation The Nanos have a hard time adjusting power down that far, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:38 AM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than enough. Need only for VoIP traffic between two buildings. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outdoor STP 5e
I've used some outdoor UV rated from here: www.teledataexpress.com and have been happy with it. They have great pricing and so far what we have seems good. I think they will do the odd sizes too, but don't hold me to that. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor STP 5e This is shielded direct burial with drain wire and no GUI stuff. http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/cat5e%20shielded%20cable%201000%20ft.h tm Thanx Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.jeffcosoho.com (WISPA Vendor Member) Complete Assembled Mikrotik Radios at the cost of parts with free basic configuration on all complete systems. Member discount code for web orders=wispa Learn RouterOS book on sale now, use coupon code=book www.linktechs.net (WISPA Vendor Member) Offering Mikrotik Training, Network Consulting, Radio Coverage Mapping, and Powerouter Products. * On 8/23/2010 2:17 PM, Steven McGehee wrote: Hey all, I was looking to buy some Mohawk Outdoor Cat5e STP cable, ( http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pd f ) but my vendor informed me that it takes 4-5 weeks to get ordered, compared to two days for the UTP version. Does anyone have a quicker route to obtain such cable? I'm not stuck on Mohawk as a brand, but I know and love their Outdoor UTP stuff. Thank you! -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] International Fiber
Anyone familiar with fiber routes / connections in Africa? Specifically in Zambia. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
If you're assigning static IP's to customers, make sure you don't have a conflict. In the past with issues like this I would just start bumping people, starting with the newest ones first, until the issue clears up. We now run monitors that track down issues like this pretty quick too. Dude has helped us tremendously in situations like this. Sounds like a client may have a virus and is killing your system - especially if you're bridged. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster All clients Changed channels several times NGL -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:11 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster Changed frequencies? Are all customers having problems or just several? many? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a tower with all Tranzeo equipment. Backhaul to tower is TR-5plus 5.8 The AP is TR-902 NF with a 180 degree antenna. 50 TR-902-11 as clients All was working well until about 10 days ago when we noticed the speeds were starting to decline. Since then it is a nightmare speeds are usually good 3000Mbps up and 1.2 down] Then during the next 4-5 hour speed decline to about 100k up Speeds remain good and constant thru the backhaul We have done the following: Changed the AP Rewired the tower Replaced the power to the AP Any suggestions as to what problem is. We are a small company and this could break us NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question
I've got my own ARIN block and right now I'm peered with my upstream running BGP (single-homed). I'm looking at changing providers but the company I'm looking at does not do BGP. I'm a little in the dark on route advertisements, etc, and I don't understand how my block will be accessible if I'm not running BGP with another provider. I have to give ARIN my peers ASNs if I remember right, so what happens if I move to someone that possibly doesn't even have an ASN? Is there some documentation somewhere on this or someone who can help me out a little bit? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question
Provider is solid - but just getting into the actual providing of Internet connectivity (to this point they have just done fiber transport). I have a feeling that by the time we actually switch they will have BGP capability (we're 6 months out right now) - just trying to figure out if I'm able to advertise my blocks on my own without BGP at all, or, if I need to use BGP to advertise them and it just pass on through my upstream. I'm by far not the most familiar with how BGP works. I'll probably just do a whole lot of reading on BGP over the next month or so and get more familiar with it. My current provider just walked me through the config so it was pretty easy J. Thanks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question The provider does not do BGP? That doesn't sound like a provider I would not want to do business with. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support _ From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:14:58 -0500 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question I've got my own ARIN block and right now I'm peered with my upstream running BGP (single-homed). I'm looking at changing providers but the company I'm looking at does not do BGP. I'm a little in the dark on route advertisements, etc, and I don't understand how my block will be accessible if I'm not running BGP with another provider. I have to give ARIN my peers ASNs if I remember right, so what happens if I move to someone that possibly doesn't even have an ASN? Is there some documentation somewhere on this or someone who can help me out a little bit? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
Considering close to 400' total length. I've seen all the posts and I don't think fiber is going to be an option, and 120v up the tower is definitely not - owner won't allow that. The Outreach product is interesting, and I've seen other things like it, but didn't know if they really worked that well or not. NEMA enclosure for that is not a problem - I just need something that is stable as this will be on a tower about an hour away. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters? I need to get higher than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters? I need to get higher than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Talk with your power coop to see if there is fiber in the area. Talk with your chamber, city council, whatever to find out if there is anything in the area (or close to the area) for fiber. We are very rural but are also able to get fiber backhaul to some major metros. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3? The most cost effective form of transport that an ISP / WISP can purchase from a Carrier (ILEC or Cable Co or another type of provider) would be Ethernet .. 100Meg or Gig E While these are un-regulated services, which means an ILEC's can exercise their discretion on providing this type of service to you and I or another Carrier however in many places I have begged ATT for an ethernet option but they keep saying its not available and no ETA. Last time I asked was about 6 months ago though. I think in rural areas where you have no other options they know it. At least it seems like it. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations
We get them installed for $300 here. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations I would check with the electric utility to see if they will do poles and for how much, sometimes it's reasonable. Local electricians will know who the inexpensive pole subcontractors are, as electricians often need poles installed in the course of installing their part of new electrical services. You might even want the electricians to handle the pole installs, any conduit runs (for power to the poles if power is nearby). I would not assume there are electrical outlets everywhere you want them and it's not all low voltage wiring, so some relationship with an electrician may be necessary. I had one experience with a windmill and it wasn't good. It was an older air-x 400. I'm sure newer ones are better, but mine vibrated the tower quite bit, and seized up after a couple months. Solar can work very well if you don't skimp on panel and battery. Most of them attempts you read about are people trying it out, skimping on both battery and panel capacity and they are setting them self up for early trouble. On the other hand, big companies speccing out solar systems will massively overbuild to protect their reputation and sell more stuff. New gear like UBNT and mikrotik uses very little electrical power, making solar more practical than ever. For the wisp stuff, you'll want to either find a qualified local WISP company with long term maintenance in mind. Ocassionally, surges and power issues will break things or cause things to need a power cycle. Lacking that, a computer service shop that is good at networking might be able to maintain it, but I wouldn't suggest a computer service shop for the setup. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 06:08:35PM -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 7/19/2010 05:53 PM, you wrote: Fred: I have some poles on my network. They are hard to climb and service would be the only caveats I'd share. Consider windmills. The ones they sell to keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive. You're right; we'll probably need a bucket truck to do poles, both to install and service. Are you talking about using wind for power too? There are few or no local windmills otherwise. Some of the best relay sites may be off the grid so a wind charger could be practical. Solar might work but lake-effect snow could be a problem. Lake-effect wind, on the other hand, would be helpful. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations A design I'm working on is in a hilly wooded rural/resort area, not farmland. It will need a fair number (perhaps a few dozen) sites to cover the planned turf. Each node will need both backhaul (mesh, in the loose sense) and access antennas. The obvious place to put these is atop utility poles. I think the local electric cooperative will cooperate and let us rent pole space. We may however need to put additional poles in some places. They seem cheaper than metal towers and are less likely to raise the locals' eyebrows. Does anyone out there have experience with this sort of arrangement? We're in the budgeting stage now. I have an idea what the radios cost but the installation might be the bigger deal. The big engineering firms are more used to fancy cellular and fiber installs, not WISP-style radios. So we may also want to bring in someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or setup with us too. Thanks. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Fred Goldstein
Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Wish I could get that here...100Mbps where I'm at is closer to $8000. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3? 100meg metro e is running 3000.00 here. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so. Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000 dollars to upgrade to a T3. I managed to get around it because otherwise ATT would have had to install a high count copper line down my road to be able to keep offering POTS service here, so I got lucky, and had a free install. But you may not be that fortunate. I just thought if I posted this, it might give some people a heads up to start planning for more bandwidth when you're coming close to needing t3 type capacity. What are you paying for your DS3? We are nearing the point of moving to OC3's at both locations and the loops are outrageous. This is on ATT as well. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jeremie Chism TritonDataLink WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Friday Laugh
So have I. Here in the land of large full oak trees, same thing, sometimes the only way to get under the trees, power lines, etc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday Laugh I've done that. Sometimes it's the only way to get below the power lines. Higher is not always better. marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] Friday Laugh I understand you don't want the antenna on your roof, mam. Is there some other place you can mount it?. Yes there is one other place that we can mount it and still get through the trees... http://wifimw.com/pics/redneck_install.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup
Well, customer prefers to stay with something internal that resembles tape at least. Gonna try to talk them out of it cause like everyone else said, tape sucks. Ran REV drives for awhile and had great luck with them but even those are outdated now. Thanks for all the feedback. Love the BlacX option - didn't know that existed! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup A remote server. Even one with a dedicated wireless link from building a to building b. If there's not TO much data, something in another town is a decent option too. If neither of those work for ya, it's pretty hard to beat a usb external drive these days. marlon - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup What are you guys using for Tape backup options? Prefer something SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Tape backup
What are you guys using for Tape backup options? Prefer something SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
There is next to no learning curve on the Deliberant if you know networking and wireless at all. It's an easy web interface and has full SSH access too if you like that route. I highly recommend it. So much easier than putting two radios up. We've been that route too with Trazeo and have not replace ALL of our Tranzeo repeater sites with Deliberant AP Duo's or Quads. Could not be happier at the moment. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I really want to do is learn another radio system. Really hoping for a MT or UBNT option. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
It's a custom skin version of the Wilibox software. Not flex-based like the CPE's. Don't know much more than that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater So What software do they have running on the Deliberant Quads/Duos units now? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater There is next to no learning curve on the Deliberant if you know networking and wireless at all. It's an easy web interface and has full SSH access too if you like that route. I highly recommend it. So much easier than putting two radios up. We've been that route too with Trazeo and have not replace ALL of our Tranzeo repeater sites with Deliberant AP Duo's or Quads. Could not be happier at the moment. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Thanks for the advice guys on the Deliberant. However, Last thing I really want to do is learn another radio system. Really hoping for a MT or UBNT option. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Get a Deliberant AP Duo. $350 and no hassle. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
We went LLC taxed as an S Corp not so much for tax reasons as we did legal reasons. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater That is what I do. It works well for hitting small pockets, a dozen people or so,plus I use it when the client wants a AP. People are not allowed to connect things to the network with out permission, if they do, and it runs their bill up, they get the idea quickly. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:08 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on needs, you could use a Pico for the AP, then no antenna. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Thanks Chuck you also forgot $100 for Antennas on the MT system. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater Steve: I don't think you're going to get much cheaper than what you said below, but here's a try. Nanostation M/Nanostation Loco M for the AP, Bullet/Nano for the Backhaul. The Nanostation M's have a software enabled POE 2nd port. Run one cable up, then Port 2 POE to the Bullet. Choose your antennas. MSRP 2 x Nano's = $160 2x R52 radios = $80 1 x RB/433 = $99 $180 With the MT you will need a case and pigtails...making it more expensive even more. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Repeater I have avoided repeaters like the plague but I have a situation where I have one and I am looking for a better option. When I started my wisp I was 100% Tranzeo. At this one location I setup a CPE connected to a TR-6000 that has 2 Ethernet ports that pass through POE. I ran 1 Ethernet up the tower with a POE at the bottom, and a crossover in between. I would like a similar layout for other locations. Issue I see is that not many other units, UBNT or MT have a 2nd Ethernet that pass through POE? How does everyone you get around this? Trying to stay cheaper than a RB433, 2 radios, and 2- antennas, box, pigtails, 2 LMR cables. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] taxes
I think that is Travis' point though - is that there are no set guidelines on what to do. From my understanding, and to put in very simple terms, to expense the equipment means that you take the entire possible deduction for that equipment immediately. To depreciate it means that over time (be it 2,3,5,10 years, etc) you take the entire possible deduction. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this though. We're like Travis - some things we expense, some we depreciate. Most of our wireless equipment we expense out, but stuff like our vehicles, towers, etc, we will typically depreciate so that we can maximize the potential taxes on those items. I would think that a good accountant would not say you HAVE to expense it all or that you HAVE to depreciate it all. I would think that they would look at your situation and do whatever maximizes the use of the equipment to lower your tax liability. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] taxes Travis, thanks for your input. I'm really looking for feedback as to what our industry's standard is. I submit that the IRS does not look at it as a personal, business choice. I'd rather do it correctly now than find out from the IRS I'm doing it wrong. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: This is a personal, business choice. There is no set answer. Some of our equipment we expense and some we depreciate. It all depends on what tax breaks you need now vs. later. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: Everyone's favorite subject :) I'm getting mixed information form my accountants on this and want to know what everyone else is doing. The basic question is this: Are you expensing or depreciating the equipment? Equipment being radios (AP CPE), antennas, switches, firewalls, etc. With the cost of the electronics being so low, its not making much sense to depreciate. Which takes me to a second question: Have any WISPs been audited by the IRS for this reason? Thanks in advance! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] HotSpots
$4.95 per hour $9.95 per day $19.95 per week $29.95 per month Monthly is most popular. We limit all hotspot users to 768k. We provide no guarantees and no refunds on our hotspot service. If they have trouble, we know we can get them with an install and we upgrade them to an installed service for a $50 install fee and the choice of speed packages up to 10Mbps (for increased fees of course). We have service on a number of light poles around town that brings us in a pretty good cash flow each month from the hotspot end of it. We have AP's on water towers and other towers as well, but generally we do not allow hotspot off of those. We have DigitalPath gear in place for the hotspot side of our business, but I'm trying to swap it out for other, more reliable and less proprietary gear (Deliberant) as my AP's die. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] HotSpots Looking at adding some more pay as you go hotspots and wanted to know: What is other most subscribed to offering on a hotspot? Per hour, per day, per week, per month? What limits do you set on speed? What limits do you set on MB/GB /subscription? What do you charge? (hour, day, week, month) Do you let it be used at other hotspots you have in other areas. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:35 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] You knew it was coming... ATT will be redoing the pricing plans for I Phone and I Pad charging a fee plus overages. There's good news for existing iPad and iPhone users who feel that the new plans will cost them more: ATT said existing ATT customers -- including the 50 million iPhone and iPad users in the United States -- have the option of sticking with their old $30 unlimited plan. The Full story: http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/02/technology/att_iphone_ipad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP
So many different things out on the market right now. What would you guys recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business requiring rock solid access? B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead and have N as well. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP
You guys using them for your outdoor stuff as well? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP I would agree + Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/24/2010 12:02 PM, Jeff Ehman wrote: Ruckus Wireless. Hands down. Their smart antenna array, price point and simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched. Plus, this pertains to larger projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still broadcast! The only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance but at least everyone can still get on the internet. -Jeff Convergence Technologies There is a difference -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP So many different things out on the market right now. What would you guys recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business requiring rock solid access? B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead and have N as well. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Equipment
Is there a WISPA list for WTB equipment? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I haven't tried UBNT gear for our CPE's, but I know that about 4 years ago I dumped Tranzeo due to issues with dead CPE's coming to me. I have used the XR3's and they seem to work great. I went to Deliberant for my standard gear and haven't looked back. Deliberant now has a CPE (2Ghz model or 5Ghz model) that comes with an integrated antenna AND an external connector in the same enclosure with software selectable option. Great solution and an outstanding enclosure!! AND, $79.95 each on the 2Ghz, $89.95 ea on the 5Ghz!! Rock solid stuff too. We have had fantastic luck with Deliberant gear and don't plan to do anything different. I've replaced all Tranzeo AP's with Deliberants. We've been through Tranzeo, some Alvarion, Mikrotik setups, DigitalPath, and a couple of other very temporary tests, and nothing has done as well as the Deliberant gear has. No, I don't work for Deliberant. No, I don't get anything from this - just passing the word on some great gear that few people seem to discuss on here! :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Those of you using Tranzeo, have you tried Ubiquiti products? Hopefully the Nanostation2/5. What do you think about the differences in them (obviously besides the price!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE. I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Never had any water issues. Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of those are still out there. Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers. Then started seeing the issues with Cisco switches. Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them as a DNS resolver. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
Other than hard lightning hits (meaning, blew other things in the house too), I haven't had an Ethernet failure on one of these in a LONG time, and really, don't know that I've ever had just an Ethernet failure on one. Tranzeo's we had that way too often - would associate, would just not pass Ethernet traffic any more. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Julius Igugu Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. How good is the Ethernet surge protection on these new units? I have lost lots of their previous model CPEs due to failed Ethernet ports (some tranzeos and UBNT gear too!). Julius Igugu Webcenta Wireless. On 4/1/2010 1:25 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: I haven't tried UBNT gear for our CPE's, but I know that about 4 years ago I dumped Tranzeo due to issues with dead CPE's coming to me. I have used the XR3's and they seem to work great. I went to Deliberant for my standard gear and haven't looked back. Deliberant now has a CPE (2Ghz model or 5Ghz model) that comes with an integrated antenna AND an external connector in the same enclosure with software selectable option. Great solution and an outstanding enclosure!! AND, $79.95 each on the 2Ghz, $89.95 ea on the 5Ghz!! Rock solid stuff too. We have had fantastic luck with Deliberant gear and don't plan to do anything different. I've replaced all Tranzeo AP's with Deliberants. We've been through Tranzeo, some Alvarion, Mikrotik setups, DigitalPath, and a couple of other very temporary tests, and nothing has done as well as the Deliberant gear has. No, I don't work for Deliberant. No, I don't get anything from this - just passing the word on some great gear that few people seem to discuss on here! :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Those of you using Tranzeo, have you tried Ubiquiti products? Hopefully the Nanostation2/5. What do you think about the differences in them (obviously besides the price!) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE. I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilsonli...@mtin.net wrote: Never had any water issues. Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of those are still out there. Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers. Then started seeing the issues with Cisco switches. Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them as a DNS resolver. -- Justin Wilsonj...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
No experience with them, but have heard great things about the Draytek stuff - http://www.draytek.us/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Platypus and VoIP
Anyone doing VoIP and found a way to bill accurate taxes and fees with Platypus? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Ice works. :) Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of crusty stuff trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the sticky or whatever but it went on just fine. Temp was around 20 degrees. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Yes, that's the biggest thing is that during our cold weather we've had here the past week or so (0* with -15 wind chills - not a normal thing here in Southern Missouri) our current weather seal methods aren't easy to install. Sure, we could do it inside and would work fine but we get up on a tower in this cold and the tapes get just a bit too stiff for us to use, and hate to climb twice to pull an antenna down just to water seal it on the ground in a warm environment. Luckily we have better days now. Got up to 40 or so today and should be that way all week. MUCH better!!! Normal weather we don't have issues with water sealing - we have found a great system that works for us - rubber/mastic tape with electrical tape over that and on occasion, silicone for those connectors that we can't quite get the tape down into adequately. Thanks for the recommendations guys. Appreciate all the help that this list is. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather I think Jason's angle is that products often times have an application temperature range that is less than the temperature way in which they'll do their job. What everyone does may well work fine at 70 degrees ambient, but at 30 or -50, what works? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Wow... I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is discussed. I would be in the Caribbean right now. :-) Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion... -B- RickG wrote: Ditto. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Coax seal. On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Ice works. :) Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of crusty stuff trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the sticky or whatever but it went on just fine. Temp was around 20 degrees. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire
Situations like this we replace the CPE at no charge. We maintain the CPE for our customers for any natural issues. Anything like Dog chewing cable, shotgun blasts, whatever, the customer is responsible for. With CPE prices where they are, it doesn't pay to go through the hassle or potential upset of the customer to try and charge them. I'd rather have the customer for life. Phone company will charge $200 (or more) for a replacement DSL modem that will take 3-5 days to get to them (unless they want to pay for overnight shipping). We're there same day (or whenever the customer is ready) to replace it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List; motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire Lost our first CPE from a house fire. Guy was so down on the phone, I couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE. What have you done? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
I think I'm hitting 802 limit. CPU on the board isn't getting tasked that hard. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of horsepower on the AP's CPU? Greg On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
Max 3meg - b only mode on this particular AP. Most are still able to get that, but we're seeing a decline on how many can pull 3meg. At peak times, we've seen it to where users aren't able to get much over 1meg, but that's not happening very often right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Yeah, how much bandwidth are you passing to those 35 customers, Jason? Just curious. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of horsepower on the AP's CPU? Greg On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
Deliberant would work well for this I believe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need a new AP I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
What do you not like about the PacWireless ones? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas Hi All, What are you using for grid antennas? I really don't like the Pac Wireless ones. But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new name) ones are being discontinued. Suggestions? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles
Deliberant - hands down. Have not had a problem with anything at all like this. We dropped Tranzeo a few years ago for other reasons, and are very happy we did. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:23 AM To: bcl...@spectraaccess.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles If someone made a CPE that did NAT properly with the Tranzeo mounting bracket and Ethernet cover, I'd switch to them in a heartbeat. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles I've always worried that by running the CPE's in bridging mode, really opens up the door for a teenage hacker to have a field day snooping the network. On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 09:56 -0500, Andy Trimmell wrote: Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a router since we run all of our CPE's in bridge mode. Just not enough processing power to be running other services on them. People don't like the initial $50 to go get a router before we get there but we make it up when they get installed and love the service. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 00:02 -0500, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: That's the only thing that kept me from loosing my insanity. Dumb question: What are you left with if you lose your insanity? :-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client
You referring to this? http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign= Looks like it's well under $100. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client Ruckus Metroflex. That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use. They will be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more Tessco should have good pricing on them. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens. We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up then most laptops with built in wireless. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.
Sounds like symptoms of an ip address conflict possibly. Sent from Windows mobile device... -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:33 PM To: Mikrotik discussions mikro...@mail.butchevans.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. Are you sure it's functional? I expect it probably isn't usable while the pings stop just like browsing isn't capable. What are you pinging from/to? Do you have the Tranzeo fix applied to your CPEs as you're using a Mikrotik AP? Is the Tranzeo rebooting per their interpretation of the RFC? Is the wireless registration staying up according to the AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great signal but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have more data and another customer seeing the same thing. 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. 2. If you do a constant ping, you get responses for a while, you won't get responses for a while. 3. While the pings respond, you can web browse fast. 4. While the pings don't respond, you get page cannot be displayed. 5. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. 6. Customer says the online game they play will take several attempts to connect but once connected it works great. Someone else suggested power but tried different power supplies with same result. These are Tranzeo CPQ's as clients and MT AP/RB532/XR-2/120 16db HPol. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091104/5e67ba80/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list mikro...@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of course, many other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch. Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 14:15:10.273 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up I know the gig port is going up and down but does it tell you anything else? Tnx. -B- -B- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NAT issue with Hotmail/Yahoo/Google
Yep, we've seen this too. Ended up being a rogue user on the network that we had to shutdown from sending spam. Fixed them and it cleared it up after a little bit. We are moving all users to their own publics as well as we migrate everything to PPPoE. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:41 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] NAT issue with Hotmail/Yahoo/Google We are having a problem with certain sites that are rejecting our customers because they say the IP address has sent too much traffic over the last 24 hours. This is a problem, as 98% of our customers are behind a single NATted IP address. I am just changing the IP address of the NAT server every 12 hours now, but am looking for a better solution. Anyone have any similar issues? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower
Hey Mark. My experience on the Pac 120* H-Pol sectors is that you will come very close to 360* with just two of them. I would stay away from 180's. I think it was the good man Marlin that sent me some info about those a few years back when I considered this and I decided on the 120's. Worked great at very close to 360. You may get some odd lobes and dead space but planned accordingly you can probably cover what you need with just two of them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower I have one of my towers that has grown to 32 subs, This is a MT ap and I hear that is the magic limit. The only current issue I have with it CPU maxing out at peak times and I am planning a board swap for that. I was also thinking of sectoring but do not feel the need for three. Having a hard time finding a 180 deg HPOL 2.4Ghz sector. Found one that SuperPass sells but the quality does not seem to be there. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams
Stay far far away from Savvis. They did me VERY dirty on a circuit I needed to move. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] choice of upstreams I'm a GigE circuit to the mix, and I've got a choice of: Abovenet Cogent Global Crossing Level3 Savvis I'm looking for recommendations of who the better upstream is. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power
Only problem I've got with 10Mhz (or 5Mhz) is that a vast majority of laptops cannot see that, and it kills our hotspot capabilities. Beyond that, yes, it's fantastic. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power Better signal due to noise floor change. 10Mhz has been a life send. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power Just curious about something. If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)? I'm pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under smaller channels (spectral density?). -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
Can it go 40' unguyed? How hard it is to push it up? I've got a similar 30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30' unguyed. But, it was a LOT less cost than this one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put this up? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have what: wonderpole 40' fiberglass push up pole where: http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and put a panel up in air for testing. I don't push mine out to 40' often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a test. Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
In our situation, if it's something that is natural causes (trees, lightning, squirrels, etc) that affects our equipment we fix it for free. If we get out there and it is nothing with our equipment, or we find out roofers did it, weedeater did it, anything that was caused by careless human hands we charge them a one-time $50 service call fee. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] To G or not to G :-)
Smaller channel sizes is one thing we haven't done yet, but we can'd do it permanently unless we swap out a few CPE's. Have a couple of older Tranzeo's and an older Deliberant or two that don't support smaller channel sizes. Appreciate the info and help. We are going to try it on the Test AP we have up to see if it makes a difference on the couple of clients we have on there right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] To G or not to G :-) I have a lot of Deliberant CPE in my network, just a few of their APS. But the newer generation stock with Atheros cards supports 20/10/5 MHz channels. From their site, concerning the Duos: Product contains: * Dual-Radio with adjustable RF Output Power * Rugged cast aluminum hinged enclosure * Full, half, and quarter bandwidth channels * Multi-BSSID support (VSSID) with VLAN tags * PoE built-in for single cable installation * Configurable Multi-mode AP * AP mode/AP client mode * WDS * AP router/AP client router * AP repeater * Redundant PtP bridge with STP At 11:37 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Yeah, I think they use the same cards -- Willi Atheros. Goota set IEEE mode to G first, then half/quarter channels are available. At 11:04 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: Mike - you mean 5mhz and 10mhz channels? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: The Atheros Deliberant cards will do half and quarter channels on G. At 10:42 AM 10/1/2009, you wrote: If you aren't sectorized, you should do that first. Neither normal b or g or b/g are ideal in high noise. I don't mix. I like a little better g-mode on 10mhz channels using radio cards that support listening on 5/10 mhz channels like the xr2. (Many listen on 20mhz) You're more than twice as likely to find a clearer channel. On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:58:30AM -0500, Jason Hensley wrote: In 2.4 land, if you have a lot of noise, which protocol is better - B or G? Is it better to run an AP as locked into one mode or is it OK to do a mix? Max I want off of 2.4 customers is 3meg so not that worried about the extra speed that G will provide, but, I would like to know which is more stable? I've always thought that B was more stable overall but just provided less bandwidth. I've gotten some info that may counter that. What's the real-world experience with folks in a high-noise environment, combined with a higher useage AP? I've got an AP that we've run in B mode only for a while. We've started having problems with it - speeds go from 3meg at the customer to 200k and fluctuate constantly. We've worked with RTS, ACK timeouts, etc etc and nothing seems to have improved the stability. For testing purposes we put up another AP right next to the one we're having trouble with. Switched two of our gaming clients to that one (setup as G mode only) and they seem to be doing better, but not quite as good as we feel they could be. This is on Deliberant AP's (Duos). The backhaul part of it is not the issue - we can pull close to 15meg back to our office when cabled into the AP. We have other Deliberant APs that are running MANY more clients than this one so we know it's not limitations of the equipment. AP is on top of a water tower. Have taken all clients off and brought them back on one by one and it did not reveal anything significant. With just one customer on the AP started acting up again. Swapped radios in the AP thinking we could have one going bad and still no luck. 2.4 antennas are H-pol. We have a ton of noise in the area, but we've been through basically every channel and it did not help either. Other AP's in the vicinity are performing fine. Thought of the multipath issue so we raised our test AP up a little higher than the other one. As I said, the test AP seems to be better, but next to it on top of the tower we can get around 8 or 9 meg down (locked into G mode), but at the CPE's we're still barely getting 2.5-2.8meg. Any thoughts? We changed everything we can. The new test AP has a 9db antenna compared to the 13db on the production AP. Other than that, they are identical as far as equipment goes. So, back to the subject question though, what's real-world experience with G-only mode
Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods
I think first off, why the concern over Mikrotik longevity? Do you not think the company will be around, or do you just not see it scaling (for whatever reason) to the level that you want / need? Personally, I'm not sure what you're looking for that's not already out there. Build a mikrotik concentrator with a good spec server (or two), dropin Freeradius Oas someone else already mentioned) and you should be good for a long time. Sent from Windows mobile device... -Original Message- From: Nick Huanca n...@gaw.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Authentication Methods Hi all, I currently am working on a project to develop a sustainable, manufacturer agnostic, easy to maintain and provision authentication system for our ISP. We have a mix of access points from Alvarion, Trango, MikroTik, Canopy, and others. We're currently running a distributed PPPoE model with MikroTik PPPoE concentrators. We're concerned about MikroTik's longevity, reliability and support as we move towards a more centralized PPPoE model where all our sessions terminate at a CO. We're looking to migrate over 1,000 customers, currently across 15 or so concentrators, to one single concentrator with either load balancing or redundancy. We're also trying to keep our decisions based around a future IPv6 implementation. My question is if anyone has had any experience in deploying large scale PPPoE with a centralized methodology. I have investigated the Open Source options such as rp-pppoe and others but have found that they don't offer any load-balancing or redundancy options, which are important considerations when moving to a centralized model. These packages also don't offer any type of integrated rate-limiting or burst-limiting based on RADIUS. Does anyone have any experience with other types of centralized authentication for customers that support IPv6 and include integration of rate-limiting/bursting? I have reached out to a Cisco integrator, ImageStream, Fine Point Technologies (http://www.finepoint.com/servpoet.html), and some others to find solutions. Thanks in advance, -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ligo Backhauls
My experience with the Ligo and Deliberant equipment is fantastic. The only time I've done anything with my backhauls (all unlicensed right now) in particular in the past 6 months is when I've made changes. It works, works great, and I don't have to worry. VERY rich feature set in their new stuff. Love it and wouldn't trade them for anything. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligo Backhauls Can I piggyback here? Is anyone using the Ligo unlicensed backhauls (or the licensed ones for that matter) in a true carrier-grade environment, where any amount of downtime is unacceptable? Can I expect Motorola grade performance out of them, or am I stuck with Trango-style bugs and quirks? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jayson Baker wrote: So what's the real deal with the Ligo licensed backhauls? Anyone on the list using them? Performance good? Problems? Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
Can't the Mikrotik do LDAP auth? Haven't done it myself but seems like I remember seeing that it can. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller Gatespot or WirelessOrbit Not sure about your AD requirement though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate in with Active Directory. Andy Trimmell Precision Data Solutions, LLC PDSWireless Quick and Simple Internet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
