Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers

[Mac Dearman]

Josh,

 

   We are two years deep in a contract with the folks below. I have to give the 
kudo’s - - they gave us some good pricing and have been outstanding good help. 
I don’t know if he can help you, but I would think it would be worth a phone 
call. YMMV

 

Good luck,

Mac

 

Scott Fairbairn
American Communication Solutions, Inc.
901 South Mopac, Bldg. 2, Suite 505
Austin, TX 78746

www.amcomsolutions.com
512-342-2226  x101

cid:part2.00040902.06050700@amcomsolutions.com

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers

 

Does anyone have some contacts?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[Mac Dearman]

Cameron - - I think the key is to sell with the intent of never going back
to the sold internet business in case of default on the buyers part. Look at
what they have to leverage (mortgage) to you that is not related to the ISP.
You don't want to loan or finance anything to anyone at any time that
doesn't have enough "real assets" to satisfy their debt with you completely.
The amount of mortgaged items should cover not only the amount left financed
from the deal, but also legal fees if they should default on their deal.
Make everything go your way and CYA with paper!

 

Good Luck,

Mac

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

 

Doug,

 

The problem I see with that is that you will most likely have to take the
other party to court to enforce the terms of your agreement if one of the
terms is breached. It could take months or even years to get a final
judgement at which time there may be nothing left. This may be good advice
for a non-wisp business, but in the fast paced world of broadband, customers
will likely flee before a resolution is reached. If the buyer is left
insolvent, you are left with nothing, and may be on the hook for all your
own legal fees. I talked to three different business attorneys and they all
told me to run from any seller financed deal regardless of who the buyer
was. Again, if the buyer can't get financing on their own, are they a good
buyer? 

 

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Hass, Douglas A.  wrote:

Of course!  You have to have a willing seller and buyer to start.  My point
is that setting preconditions before you get started (as a buyer or as a
seller) unnecessarily limits what you ultimately would be able to do.  Don't
take options off the table until you have a specific deal to consider.  Then
is the time to say "I'm only taking cash" or "I'll finance, but only with X,
Y, and Z terms that protect me."

 

Doug

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:53 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

 


Depends on how bad you want to sell ...we don't always want to buy. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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From: "Hass, Douglas A." 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:08 PM

 

Cameron-

 

There's lots of ways to structure the deal so that you're protected, even if
the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn't have cash up
front.  If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don't let the all-cash
restriction prevent you from making a deal.  If you end up in court chasing
payments from the buyer, then you likely didn't draft your agreement
carefully enough given your tolerance for risk (of course, your due
diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an imbecile, and that
information should inform what kind of deal you're willing to accept).

 

To categorically reject buyers who don't have 100% cash to hand you at
closing might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from
someone who can put together a more attractive end package.  In that sense,
it works like selling real estate.  The all-cash offer isn't always your
best one.

 

To Randy's point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of the
senior executive staff have departed in the last few months.  That might
account for some of the quietness.  I don't have any inside information,
just what I learned trying to round up potential panelists and speakers for
WISPAmerica.

 

Doug

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

 

The seller is not a bank. Why should they take on all the risk? What happens
if the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the network into the ground and
defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing for money you will most
likely never see, and even if you retake possession of the network, it may
be in shambles or most of your customers have left. We walked away from a
couple of buyers who would not pony up the cash. I'd say as one who sold a
wisp, if the buyer can't afford it, or can't arrange their own financing,
you don't want to sell. 

 

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

There's many more buyers out there.

 



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

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From: "Randy Cosby" 


To: "WISPA General List" 

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00:34 AM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big
buyer (Jab) lately.

On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 

The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed 

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mac Dearman]

Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet


Mac

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
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Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
  We switched them to gmail and they are happy now..   They got NO help
from GoDaddy...  around and around they went..   Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months 
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. 
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a 
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
> 
> 
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
> 
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
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> 
>> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
>> customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.
> 
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mac Dearman]

We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
they have really nice webmail.


YMMV, GL
Mac

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Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
> customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.

About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman

[Mac Dearman]

All right Patrick - I resemble that :-)

And I am bigger around than ever Walter.

Mac



> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman
> 
> Geez, don't use a subject like that. Makes me think that I'm going to
> read something bad.
> 
> 
> Patrick
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:27 PM
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> 
> Mac, are you still around? Walter/NJ
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool for 477 reporting data at the tract level

[Mac Dearman]

All I can say is guys like you (Cameron) that donate their time and effort
and have the ability to do this - -well - - are just fine folks. I wish I
had a little Geek in me, but I am full blooded redneck :-)   I can't even
code a combination lock, but if you ever get this way I can surely make you
a gumbo or jambalaya that is fittin for a King or grill you some Redfish
that you'll never forget.


Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:13 AM
> To: memb...@wispa.org; wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool
> for 477 reporting data at the tract level
> 
> OK, so I got distracted by my business today and won't have this ready
> until Monday or Tuesday. However, it will do a lot. It will take an
> input file of csv format, and not only will it return the properly
> formatted file for the 477 form, but it will show you all your
> customers
> on a map with the census tracts overlaid so you can visually verify.
> I'll keep the list updated as to the progress.
> 
> Cameron
> 
> On 2/19/2010 1:15 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> > I have this app done and am wrapping up the front end to allow anyone
> > to upload a csv file with a list of addresses that will be geocoded
> > and then referenced to a tract. Output will be a csv file so you can
> > do what you like with it. I should have it up on our site by the end
> > of the day and will keep you all posted.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On 2/19/2010 10:46 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> >> Here is the list of state FIPS codes needed:
> >> 01 Alabama
> >> 02 Alaska
> >> 04 Arizona
> >> 05 Arkansas
> >> 06 California
> >> 08 Colorado
> >> 09 Connecticut
> >> 10 Delaware
> >> 11 District of Columbia
> >> 12 Florida
> >> 13 Georgia
> >> 15 Hawaii
> >> 16 Idaho
> >> 17 Illinois
> >> 18 Indiana
> >> 19 Iowa
> >> 20 Kansas
> >> 21 Kentucky
> >> 22 Louisiana
> >> 23 Maine
> >> 24 Maryland
> >> 25 Massachusetts
> >> 26 Michigan
> >> 27 Minnesota
> >> 28 Mississippi
> >> 29 Missouri
> >> 30 Montana
> >> 31 Nebraska
> >> 32 Nevada
> >> 33 New Hampshire
> >> 34 New Jersey
> >> 35 New Mexico
> >> 36 New York
> >> 37 North Carolina
> >> 38 North Dakota
> >> 39 Ohio
> >> 40 Oklahoma
> >> 41 Oregon
> >> 42 Pennsylvania
> >> 44 Rhode Island
> >> 45 South Carolina
> >> 46 South Dakota
> >> 47 Tennessee
> >> 48 Texas
> >> 49 Utah
> >> 50 Vermont
> >> 51 Virginia
> >> 53 Washington
> >> 54 West Virginia
> >> 55 Wisconsin
> >> 56 Wyoming
> >> 72 Puerto Rico
> >>
> >> Thank You,
> >> Brian Webster
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org
> >> [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org]*on Behalf Of *Scott Reed
> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2010 11:14 AM
> >> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] [WISPA] Possible way to create a
> >> free tool for 477 reporting data at the tract level
> >>
> >> I have a tool that will take a comma separated file in and
> return
> >> the file needed for Form477.  I do not have a web interface or
> >> anything for it, yet.
> >> The file must be:
> >> ID,Latitude,Longitude,upload,download
> >> where ID is any identifier you want, upload is the upload speed
> >> per the FCC list and download is the download speed per the FCC
> list.
> >> As long as I don't get overwhelmed, I can accept CSV files at
> >> WISPAForm477[at]nwwnet.net and email the result back to you.
> >> This is not a quick process but for a couple of weeks I will do
> >> what I can.  In the email you must tell me what state(s) to run
> >> the data for.  It would be best to give me the census number of
> >> the state(s), but I can find it if need be.
> >>
> >> Scott Reed wrote:
> >>> Ok, not all, but a lot of what was being complained about.
> >>> And I agree, an application that would have data ready to
> submit
> >>> would be nice.
> >>>
> >>> Matt Liotta wrote:
> 

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool for 477 reporting data at the tract level

[Mac Dearman]

I would be glad to start a $$ pool to have someone develop a tool for WISPA
members to get the data we need for the form 477. On second thoughts - - it
would be better if we allowed everyone to use it (members and non members)
if we could just get them to report!

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:48 PM
> To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA List';
> 'Motorla List Beehive'; 'WISPA Board'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool
> for 477 reporting data at the tract level
> 
> WISPA will gladly place this on our webpage if we can find someone to
> help
> get it in place.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:20 PM
> To: WISPA List; memb...@wispa. org; Motorla List Beehive; WISPA Board
> Subject: [WISPA Members] Possible way to create a free tool for 477
> reporting data at the tract level
> 
> 
> 
> I just found this web page that talks about a free API that could be
> used on
> a web page to do address lookup/geocode as well as map to the proper
> census
> tract and/or census block. I'm not a programmer but maybe someone on
> the
> list could look at this and put together something that could be used.
> Ideally it would do both single and batch lookups. If there is a way to
> also
> standardize the address fields to increase the accuracy that would be a
> big
> plus.
> 
> 
> 
> https://webgis.usc.edu/Services/Geocode/WebService/GeocoderWebService.a
> spx
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Brian Webster
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay.

[Mac Dearman]

The truth of the matter is this: 

We are all selling bandwidth for a living. The more I sale - the more I
make. I don't want to short anyone and I like the "hogs" on my service and
cater to these folks since I make more money per month off these folks. If
you aren't "metering" and charging by the gig - - you will miss the boat
since you must actually have an all you can eat buffet for $35.00  - - -
Good luck!


Mac





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> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:09 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data
> delivery is here to stay.
> 
> I've been watching the thread about it with great interest.Partly
> because I was wondering if anyone was going to try "my solution", which
> is,
> to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want
> to use
> these, and have them work fine.
> 
> Please understand, I'm not talking about a prioritizing scheme, which
> puts
> video ahead of surfing, etc.
> 
> I'm just talking about how we're going to keep up with the future...
> In
> 2004 when I started, we used between 1 and and 1.5 gigs of data per
> customer
> per month. The last time I measured it, which was a year ago,  we
> were
> up to more than 7.
> 
> We're thinking about how we're going to meet the demands of the near
> future... not managing a shortage of bandwidth delivery.  I'm nowhere
> near
> as leveraged as some of my competitors in terms of oversubscription,
> but
> that's not an excuse.
> 
> I'm thinking of planning on a future delivery of 4 to 6 meg per
> customer,
> oversubscribed to around 4 to 6 to one.
> 
> What is everyone else planning?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni

[Mac Dearman]

It "could" be a nightmare, but with appropriate channels being selected - -
it could be ok. IMHO - this is no worse than using multiple radios in a
single enclosure in the same frequency. I guess it could be worse if you
were using multiple radios in a single enclosure AND using an antenna like
this :-)   That would be shooting yourself in both feet :-)

All that smart ass comment just to admit - - - IMHO you are correct in your
assessment of the situation.


Mac




> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:21 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni
> 
> 2009/10/29 Michael Baird :
> > What about sectorized omni arrays, any of those out there at 5.8?
> >
> > An example would be
> > http://www.netkrom.com/prod_ant_5.1-5.8ghz_vpol_sector_omni.html
> >
> > Just can't find anybody who sells it to get an idea on pricing.
> 
> I would be very concerned about antenna isolation with that. Using it
> with a radio that does not support transmit sync would be a nightmare.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Amateur repeater on a wisp tower -- gotchas?

[Mac Dearman]

Mike,


   I have many Rohn 25G, 45 & 55 towers with HAM operators on every one of
them. I appreciate the fact that their gear (antennas) are made to take a
lightning strike :-)   Their DB222 antennas stuck out the top of my towers
give me a false sense of security, but any security is better than none. I
have also found that the HAM operators are very professional and generally
fine folks.

  The only interference issues I have ever had is when the RB532 was
emitting out of band emissions from the ethernet port in the 140Mhz range
and did create a lot of trouble for us and them at all my sites owned and
rented.

Cover your ass and get a release of liability for those guys to climb your
tower!!

Mac





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> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Amateur repeater on a wisp tower -- gotchas?
> 
> Wispers:
> 
> I have a 180' tower sitting high on a hill above the county seat.  It
> has a mix of 5.8 and 2.4 radios and sectors/dishes.  We want to
> install an amateur repeater on the tower, initially at 70 cm (440MHz
> UHF), and eventually a 2 m (144MHz VHF) radio.  The dual band antenna
> feed point will be at 120'.  It is 17' long.  There is no microwave
> equipment below 160'.
> 
> I don't think there will be any issues with interference either way,
> but thought I'd tap into the wealth of knowledge here to see if any
> of you has any experience doing anything like this on your towers.
> 
> Is there any mixing at uhf (or VHF) going on in the microwave radio
> cards?  I can't find specs that even speak of intermediate
> frequencies.  Gotchas?  Hints?  Comments?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike G
> 
> At 06:38 PM 10/26/2009, you wrote:
> >My 24 hours is expiring and I don't want to pull this unit down.
> >Mikrotik's site wants me to authorize my credit card, a process I've
> >begun but my credit card company won't post the transaction for a few
> >days. Can anyone sell me a level 4 license for an x86 machine now?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Greg
> >
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Re: [WISPA] exp wireless tech/installer needed

[Mac Dearman]

Hey gang,

  I am in need of an experienced installer/ subscriber trouble shooter. He
would also hold responsibilities of small network repair on our wireless
network (replacing switches/power supplies..etc) as the need arises. Other
duties would include some "light" climbing to replace/test (grain
legs...etc) wireless gear as well as install wireless gear at new locations.

  Any additional network experience would be a plus and experience with
network troubleshooting in a Windows 2003/2007 NT commercial environment
would be outstanding as would be Mikrotik fluency.

Pay would be negotiable with experience and attitude.

Please contact me off list at mdear...@inetsouth.com


Thanks,
Mac Dearman CEO
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
Rayville, La.
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed degradetpZero then drop- repeat.

[Mac Dearman]

Tom,

 Be sure to upgrade the bios firmware as well when you go to 3.28 You
can upgrade the firmware with no loss of config, but to upgrade the bios you
have to be in the CLI. System routerboard print (shows you the version you
are running with upgrade available) Then type "system routerboard upgrade"
and then reboot

We have been experiencing a few odd issues as well.

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:15 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed
> degradetpZero then drop- repeat.
> 
> PAul,
> I'll try updating the firmware, that makes sense to try.
> Upgrading from 3.10 to 3.28, is it likely that I can do that remotely
> without my client configuration getting lost in the process?
> (I know how to upgrade packages, I just didn't know if config files are
> consistent through all the V3.X revs)
> 
> Tom,
> We replaced both XR900s on both sides of link.  So its not a bad radio
> card.
> We did not replace the RB 411, yet. Its also the first time we used a
> 411 w/
> 900Mhz card, so we dont have a track record for knowing compatibilty,
> yet.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Sharples" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed
> degradetpZero then drop- repeat.
> 
> 
> > Maybe just bad hardware at Subscriber B? Last week we had an XR-9 ptp
> link
> > in Houston that behaved somewhat similarly, great speed in one
> direction,
> > but next to nothing in the other. Shotgunning the radio & motherboard
> (an
> > Alix) fixed it. Haven't gotten it back yet so don't know which went
> bad.
> >
> > Tom S.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:25 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed
> degrade
> > tpZero then drop- repeat.
> >
> >
> >>I have a problem with Mikrotik I have not been able to solve.
> Wondering if
> >> anyone has any insight.
> >>
> >> A summary config is
> >>
> >> I have a 433AH setup as AP with 1 XR900 and 1 R5H (5.8Ghz). The Cat5
> >> Ethernet port goes to a SMC VLAN switch, where the SMC tags and
> untags
> >> VLAN
> >> ID, and continues to the Backhaul Radio. My point here is the MT
> itself
> >> does
> >> not have any VLAN configured.
> >>
> >> I need everything to act as a True Bridge, so I'm using WDS on
> >> everything.
> >> Both mPCI cards are set up as "AP" and then WDS interfaces
> configured.
> >> The R5H sector has one subscriber, so there is one WDS interface
> created
> >> for
> >> that.  The XR900 has two subscriber points.  So there are two WDS
> >> interfaces
> >> set up for the XR900 sector, one for each subscriber.  So all three
> WDS
> >> interaces and the Ethernet (to backhaul) are all bridged togeather
> under
> >> one
> >> Bridge.
> >>
> >> SubscriberA has a 433AH also, and actually is a repeater site. So it
> has
> >> two
> >> mPCI each configured for WDS, and then the WDS ports bridged
> togeather.
> >> The
> >> primary mPCI that connects to the above first AP, is set for WDS
> Slave.
> >> This subscriberA (repeater radio) works normally. I can run MT
> bandwdith
> >> test continually at consistent speed.
> >>
> >> As well, the subscriber for the R5H sector above also is set up for
> WDS
> >> Salve, and works properly, and tests consistently with Bandwdith
> test.
> >>
> >> SubscriberB for 900Mhz sector is the problem. It is a RB411 w/ a
> 24V-1A
> >> PS,
> >> w/ XR900. Originally it was set for WDS Slave also. It is now set
> for WDS
> >> Station, and performs the same as if WDS Slave. When running MT
> Bandwdith
> >> test both UDP or TCP, Sitting at the 433AH AP's winbox, I get the
> >> following
> >> results TXing it works perfectly and consistently.
> >> But if doing a receive test It starts out at about 800 kbps,
> then
> >> slowly
> >> reduces speed incrementally, down to 500 kbps, to 300kbps, to
> 100kbps,
> >> etc,
> >> down to Zero. When it reaches Zero mbps, the radio link disconnects,
> and
> >> immediately restarts itself. Speed starts back up at 800 kbps or so,
> and
> >> the
> >> same thing repeats. If doing Bi-directional tests of course the same
> >> thing
> >> applies, because it receives also.
> >>
> >> Noise is low at teh SU, about -67, and -74 at AP.  At first I
> thought it
> >> was
> >> noise at the IP, because occastionally SNR gets very low. .But
> >> SubscriberA has a lower signal at -84 and does not experience the
> same
> >> problem.  Just for grins, I tried playing around with TRansmit power
> at
> >> the
> >> SubscriberB, but that had no positive effect.  As well, as a test, I
> >> disabled the second WDS interface

Re: [WISPA] tower fix possible?

[Mac Dearman]

This generally happens on the lower portion (or section) of the tower and is
caused by freezing water inside the tower leg. Make sure there are weep
holes on each leg at the base and that they aren't stopped up with rust. You
would be better off to place a water pipe clamp
(http://www.plumbingsupply.com/pipe-repair.html) over the entire fracture
than to hire a welder. 

 

Mac

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower fix possible?

 

Get a proff. welder out there.  He should be able to fix it.

Randy Cosby wrote: 

http://infowest.us/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem
 &g2_itemId=1420
http://infowest.us/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem
 &g2_itemId=1418
 
These pictures are from a small 40' Rohn tower that we are leasing space 
on.  Apparently one of the legs has some sort of stress fracture 
developing, or there was something wrong with the metal here and it blew 
out.  My first thought was that we had a bullet hole, but there is no 
hole in the other side. I haven't been on site personally. 
 
In any case, we don't want to climb it, and the owner is out of the 
lower-48 for a few months.  Any recommendations for fixing / reinforcing 
this (other than the obvious - replacing the tower / section)?
 
  

 

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Re: [WISPA] Water tower question

[Mac Dearman]

I forgot to add something VERY important - -  The less you have touching
anything of theirs the better off you will be in the future when it comes
time for them to sandblast and paint!! Put your sectors "standing off" the
handrails as far as possible using DB clamps and run your own conduit to
attach your CAT5 to!!

Mac




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> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:13 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Water tower question
> 
> We've gotten access to two water towers that are what I call "bubble"
> towers.  An example is here:
> http://www.watertowers.com/photos_314_Arboretum_Water_Tower.html
> 
> Obviously we'll have to sector around it, etc etc, not worried about
> that.
> Question is, for anyone who has mounted on a tower like this, how do
> you get
> your cabling to the ground?  Do you go down the legs or is there some
> other
> way to do it?  Only way we've come up with is to either rappel down or
> talk
> the fire dept into helping with their ladder truck and bring the cables
> down
> one of the legs.  Neither option is very attractive.  Is there some
> other
> way to get the cabling down the tower?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!

[Mac Dearman]

OK guys - - - anyone have a picture of me having sex??? :-)

Seems that everything good is bad for your health and all that is bad
(tastes bad) is good for you.

Jim - that's the first fried food I've seen in 3 weeks (in that picture you
attached) and it makes me hungry ;-)

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:35 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
> 
> Too true!  Of course the left hand part of this photo is probably not
> too healthy either!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim Patient
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
> 
> Mac,
> 
> Smoking is bad but it isn't the only thing you need to change.
> 
> The attached picture shows another problem;-)
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> John Scrivner wrote:
> >>
> >> Glad to hear there was no damage!  Awesome news!  As for the quite
> >> smoking incentive, I hope it doesn't take that much for some others
> >> (me included).  I just have to quit liking it.  :-(
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > I have to give credit where credit is due. I smoked from age 16 for
> at
> > least 20 years. I must have tried unsuccessfully to quit smoking 20
> > times until I finally gave it to God and told him he would have to
> > take that one. You have to be careful what you pray for though. So I
> > asked God to take the smokes away and help me not like them any
> longer
> > but asked if he could do it with something a little less severe than
> > cancer. The next day when I got out of bed I could no longer be
> around
> > smoke at all. The smell made me sick to my stomach and I would have
> > sinus and breathing issues even being around the smoke. I never
> smoked
> > again and to this day have no cravings. For any of you who smoke you
> > know that is miraculous. That was a few years back. Those of you that
> > know me well know I am the farthest thing from a model Christian. I
> > guess my point is that this had to work really good for me to make
> > these statements. If any of you want to quit then hit me offlist and
> > we
> can talk more.
> >
> > Mac, we are glad you are well brother! (Physically anyway...the jury
> > is still out on your mental status!) Cheers, Scriv
> >
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[WISPA] Thanks all!

[Mac Dearman]

Hey gang,

 

 

Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to
send out a "THANKS" for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really
appreciate all of you more than you know. 

 

It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints
and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J  I was glad to get the report of
"zero" damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to
report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new
incentive called "life" that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a
lot easier.

 

Thanks again crew - - y'all are a great group to be associated with!

 

Sincerely,

Mac Dearman

 




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Re: [WISPA] What happened to my RooTenna?

[Mac Dearman]

Mike,


   Looks like that thing gave birth to an alien!! - hehehe (been watching
SciFi)

Where do you get those little plastic standoffs that hold your MB off the
aluminum backing plate? That looks nice!

Later,
Mac




> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] What happened to my RooTenna?
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=56132&l=8ad46&id=517748044
> 
> I'll post a couple more pictures once I get them from the customer, but
> I went over to look at their CPE today because their service was down.
> It looks like someone ran it over with a Mack truck, only it is on a
> roof of a large building (used to be indoor RC race track).  How the
> heck could this have happened?
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

[Mac Dearman]

It absolutely does bring clarification :)

There is an old saying that seems appropriate:

"You can never please all the people all the time, but you can please most
of the people most of the time."

It's been my experience that where there is more than one person to be
represented - - there are at least as many ideas as people. There is never
just one person right, but many are right at the same time, but they have
different ways of going about explaining themselves or getting their idea to
effective words. I would never say that WISPA is representing every WISP,
but with or without each and every one of your memberships - we are
representing the industry and being heard as so. If there are any of you out
there that aren't a member of WISPA already- whatcha waiting for? :)  

 In numbers there is strength and power. WISPA needs you, your number and
your input to help guide this industry.

Sincerely,
Mac Dearman



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:34 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> 
> A bastardization of the last definition :-)
> 
> I don't think these lists represent the whole industry, just a part of
> it.
> I think many of the opinions expressed on this list (including mine)
> might
> not represent what the collective opinion of the industry might be.
> 
> Basically this... things I hear from our customers and things I hear
> from
> this list can often times be two separate realities.  Neither is wrong,
> but
> one doesn't necessarily represent the other.
> 
> Does that clarify some?
> 
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:24 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> >
> > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of
> the
> > > industry as a whole.  Most of our customers are not on either
> list...
> > >
> > > Daniel White
> > > 3-dB Networks
> >
> >
> > What does that statement exactly mean? :)
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosm
> >
> >
> > Mac
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> > >
> > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of
> the
> > > industry as a whole.  Most of our customers are not on either
> list...
> > >
> > > Daniel White
> > > 3-dB Networks
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Brian Webster
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:51 PM
> > > > To: WISPA General List
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> > > >
> > > > Mac,
> > > > Since this industry has really started to mature, I would
> not be
> > > > surprised
> > > > if this data is pretty close to the industry as a whole. While
> the
> > > makeup
> > > > of
> > > > the WISPA member WISP's may not all be big like this, there are
> > > certainly
> > > > plenty of them that aren't members. Here is a link to a report
> done
> > > in
> > > > California
> > > >
> http://www.redwoodtech.org/files/CBI_WISP_Report_WorkingDraft_0.pdf
> > > about
> > > > the status of the WISP industry. This was done by the state
> broadband
> > > task
> > > > force and seems fairly balanced. California has done a pretty
> good
> > > job of
> > > > documenting where broadband exists, that is, given what any one
> > > entity can
> > > > do to document all the private business. I worked with one client
> to
> > > > compare
> > > > their results to what they knew as local market reality and it
> was
> > > pretty
> > > > close.
> > > > Heck there must be a lot more WISP's out there buying
> equipment
> > > that
> > > > we
> > > > know o

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

[Mac Dearman]

See in line comments for my sanities sake :)


> -Original Message-
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
> 
> Some use multiple technologies mixed.  34 use canopy.  I have sent the
> detail.  Looks believable to me.

[Mac says] I to use mixed technologies and the numbers just took me by
surprise. I was not looking to see an average sub count anywhere near that
number per WISP. It makes me smile all over to see this kind of numbers
associated with that many WISPs. It reassures me that we (the wireless
industry) is healthy and moving ahead in the world.

> 
> I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having
> half
> the market.  So someone says they are full of crap and that nobody can
> believe something like that.
> (Part of being an evangelist for a choice is to reject, discredit or
> suppress information that holds the alternates in a good light).

[Mac says]  I agree with that comment 100%. I think it called "human nature"
when we defend what we believe in and I believe (part of the time) that what
I am doing is the absolute right thing and I will stand up for it :)


> 
> So I do a very off-the-cuff non scientific study trusting that folks
> will be
> honest.

[Mac says]  Well - as I stated earlier - THANKS for the survey. I would like
to see a larger sampling though and let it run longer just to see how many
subs we (WISPs) actually have onboard. If we all stand together - united -
we can accomplish a lot of good for the industry. This TVWS that we (WISPA)
is currently working on didn't become a reality for all of us due to WISPAs
just sitting back and not speaking up! We need numbers even if it is an
honest "off the cuff" survey. You did good Chuck!


> 
> One question for you Mac:
> Are you saying everyone is equally stretching the truth?
> Are Canopy users less honest than Trango or MT users?
> I would presume that the MT or Trango would be the ones stretching the
> truth...
> 

[Mac says] Well - - I wouldn't tend to think that the Moto guys are any less
truthful than the rest of the guys :) unless the Rf from the Moto gear has
done something to your brains :)   I guess I was taken by surprise by the
averages of all. If anyone took offense - I apologize because that was not
my intent. If those are honestly truthful (or even close) numbers - - this
industry and the amount of subs we serve collectively is very large - - -
makes me smile!!



> 
> How far do you reckon that folks have stretched their numbers?  I'll be
> happy to put my name by my number.
> 
> Personally, I think everyone at WISPA is honest and we have a very
> honest
> sampling.  I was only testing the hypothesis that Canopy represents
> about
> half the WISP market.  Or really, more formally I was attempting to
> prove
> the null hypothesis that all manufacturers are equally likely to be
> supplying the market.
> I have not proved the null hypothesis.  Actually, I think it is
> rejected.

[Mac says] I don't know anyone in Louisiana utilizing Canopy today. I am
sure there are some operators somewhere here that do - I just don't know
where they are. You know that my going Motorola is one of the two choices
(the other being go WiMAX)I will make in the next week.



> 
> We can get into confidence intervals and margin of errors (which would
> probably be about 12% for a survey like this) and ANOVA and Chi and a
> bunch
> of other stuff I have suppressed in a dusty corner of my noggin, but
> really,
> I was just looking for a general feel.


[Mac says] I think it was a great idea and needs to be duplicated on all the
lists. I know Brian Webster has been talking about trying to get some of
this data together along with the demographics of the areas we serve. I
think it would be a great idea as well as very helpful when we visit the
FCC!

Mac





> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Motorola II] [WISPA] Book1.xls
> 
> 
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> >  I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth
> with
> > your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to
> your
> > poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each!
> >
> >
> > It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs
> count for
> > a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs
> > combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers
> >
> > I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that
> participated
> > in
> > the survey that I am not aware of.
> >
> >
> >

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

[Mac Dearman]

> I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of the
> industry as a whole.  Most of our customers are not on either list...
> 
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks


What does that statement exactly mean? :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosm


Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> 
> I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of the
> industry as a whole.  Most of our customers are not on either list...
> 
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Brian Webster
> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:51 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> >
> > Mac,
> > Since this industry has really started to mature, I would not be
> > surprised
> > if this data is pretty close to the industry as a whole. While the
> makeup
> > of
> > the WISPA member WISP's may not all be big like this, there are
> certainly
> > plenty of them that aren't members. Here is a link to a report done
> in
> > California
> > http://www.redwoodtech.org/files/CBI_WISP_Report_WorkingDraft_0.pdf
> about
> > the status of the WISP industry. This was done by the state broadband
> task
> > force and seems fairly balanced. California has done a pretty good
> job of
> > documenting where broadband exists, that is, given what any one
> entity can
> > do to document all the private business. I worked with one client to
> > compare
> > their results to what they knew as local market reality and it was
> pretty
> > close.
> > Heck there must be a lot more WISP's out there buying equipment
> that
> > we
> > know of at WISPA, I don't think the equipment manufacturers could
> survive
> > on
> > just the WISPA numbers alone. Given that they still develop new
> products
> > also indicates there is more market than you or I may be aware of or
> else
> > they would not still put R&D efforts in to something they don't think
> they
> > could sell and make profit on. I'm of the firm belief this industry
> is
> > much
> > bigger than anyone realizes, which is why I want to get the mapping
> > initiative off the ground to start benchmarking things.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Brian Webster
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:10 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> >   I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth
> with
> > your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to
> your
> > poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each!
> >
> >
> >  It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs
> count
> > for
> > a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs
> > combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers
> >
> > I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that
> participated
> > in
> > the survey that I am not aware of.
> >
> >
> > Cool survey & THANKS!!
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM
> > > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> > >
> > > Got tired of adding it up each time.
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Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

[Mac Dearman]

Chuck,


  I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth with
your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to your
poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each!


 It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs count for
a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the WISPs
combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers

I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that participated in
the survey that I am not aware of.


Cool survey & THANKS!!

Mac






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> Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls
> 
> Got tired of adding it up each time.
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Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

[Mac Dearman]

Looks like they have been hacked - this is what I see:


Tuncis lives here...




Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:02 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?
> 
> Here is my route to www.routerboard.com (CNAME to routerboard.com)
> 
> routerboard.com [207.141.27.145]
> 
> 
>   722 ms16 ms17 ms  xe-10-0-0.bar1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net [
> 4.78.216.
> 9]
>   836 ms20 ms33 ms  ae-10-10.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [
> 4.69.136.214]
> 
>   940 ms21 ms22 ms  ae-24-52.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [
> 4.68.101.40]
> 
>  1028 ms28 ms21 ms  192.205.33.185
>  1188 ms86 ms87 ms  tbr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.70]
>  1291 ms87 ms86 ms  cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.17.205]
>  1395 ms92 ms89 ms  cr2.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.31.130]
>  1493 ms89 ms88 ms  tbr2.st6wa.ip.att.net [12.122.23.230]
>  1588 ms86 ms86 ms  12.127.6.29
>  1697 ms95 ms94 ms  12.127.79.10
>  17   100 ms94 ms94 ms  vlan5.minnow.fsr.net [64.126.130.10]
>  18   101 ms95 ms95 ms  207.141.27.145
> 
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> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> il.net>wrote:
> 
> > I am having connectivity issues with Mikrotik's site.  I haven't
> looked
> > into
> > what, why, or how.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:43 AM
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Subject: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?
> >
> > > www.routerboard.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Gino A. Villarini
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Article

[Mac Dearman]

Why don't y'all put the correct SUBJECT line (BS) in place on this piece of
$*it thread or take it off list?

All of you ought to be ashamed for feeding trolls - - hehehehehe





Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:40 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I would like you to further elaborate on the following comment for
> those who
> don't remember or those who were not on the list at the time.  Please
> include the specific examples of this accusation so this person can
> defend
> what they said "in context".  If that person is me, then I will clarify
> my
> position to the best of my ability.
> 
> "I'm just recalling a specific thread on this list that's now 2 or 3
> years
> old, about how this industry will be much better and more representable
> in
> Washington when it is "mature" and not a whole lot of smaller players.
> Someone who is influential in WISPA was the source of this attitude,
> too.
> 
> This particular person seemed to be embarrassed to consider
> representing
> this industry as having mom and pop type members."
> 
> Respectfully,
> Rick Harnish
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:20 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>And I won't be.  I was once and put money into WISPA.  When I think
> >>WISPA has the interests of all WISPS in mind when they act, then
> >>I'll financially support it.  When WISPA goes to washington DC and
> >>represents to them, that we actually WANT to be regulated, I cannot
> >
> > When did this ever happen?
> 
> It did.  Long ago.   I supported WISPA until someone spilled the beans.
> 
> >
> > There are some regulations that are good for WISPs.  Just ONE HUGE
> > example are the regulations that govern the FREE use of spectrum
> > under the Part-15 rules.  It's funny that I've never heard you go
> > off the deep end about THOSE regulations.  Either way, that is one
> > example of a good regulation.
> 
> Hmmm... Allowing the people to use a public commodity.  Wow.  I feel so
> privileged.  NOT!  No, the knotheads in DC OWE US THE USE OF IT.
> 
> Wow, what a strange concept.   When did we forget, we're the boss and
> the
> owners, they're the designated stewards?
> 
> >
> > In terms of specific impact that WISPA has had that benefits ALL
> > wisp operators (even those like you that don't like regulation)
> > there are 2 MAJOR examples that I will suggest.  You are probably
> > the only one "in the room" who will not like them, but then I
> > suspect you are often in that situation.  The first example is the
> > most recent HUGE WIN for WISPs in the TVWS debates.  I don't know if
> > you noticed, but in the R&O, do a search for "WISPA" and then do a
> > search for "GOOGLE".  You'll quickly see that just based on the
> > number of "mentions" that WISPA had a HUGE impact on the ruling.
> > That spectrum is free for you to use UNLICENSED (NOT UNREGULATED),
> > even if you don't support WISPA.  Another example is CALEA.  I know
> > that in YOUR world, CALEA isn't something that you have to comply
> > with, but the rest of us that live in a world shared by ~300Million
> > other Americans, we DO have to comply.  WISPA could have gone to DC
> > and said "this isn't fair", but it would NOT have changed the law.
> > Moving beyond that, we have developed a REAL solution that is very
> > affordable for ANYONE to follow.  There is currently no software
> > supporting it, but that is under development and will surface in the
> > near future.
> 
> Wow.   Effective and reasonable ideas could have been dreamed up and
> proposed and made into law by now.  But nope, we're still determined
> that
> pounding a square peg into a round hole "just has to be".
> 
> >
> > One of the reasons WISPA doesn't take the approaches you suggest is
> > that your ideas are SO far out of line with reality that there is no
> > way to meet you on common ground.  Perhaps the muddy frogs can, but
> > real people cannot.
> 
> Why, Thanks  Butch.   I feel ever so much better now.
> 
> >
> >>When the attitude that "consolidation and shaking out the smaller
> >>players" is a good thing goes away, then there's on more barrier
> >>down.  It may not be
> >
> > What's bad about building and selling?  You don't like money either?
> 
> Hmmm...  words have a specific meaning, I said precisely what I meant.
> When the attitude that the smaller players need to go away is shaken
> out of
> WISPA, that will be a good thing.
> 
> >
> >>Sorry, you l

Re: [WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race

[Mac Dearman]

Chuck,

  Whatcha think of packet limiting? :) It works eh? Saves my hind end
daily!! I have found that these MikroCore routers do a great job as well - -
same philosophy - - different hardware.



Mac


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:07 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race
> 
> Mr. Imagestream, Mr. MAC,  good place for a packet control add...  It
> works! Even on udp! Packets is packets.
> 
> Chuck Profito
> 209-988-7388
> CV-ACCESS, INC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Providing High Speed Broadband
> to Rural Central California
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jon Auer
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:56 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race
> 
> "Upset about Bell Canada's system for allocating bandwidth fairly
> among internet users, the developers of the uTorrent P2P application
> have decided to make the UDP protocol the default transport protocol
> for file transfers. BitTorrent implementations have long used UDP to
> exchange tracker information  the addresses of the computers where
> files could be found  but the new release uses it in preference to
> TCP for the actual transfer of files. The implications of this change
> are enormous."
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01/richard_bennett_utorrent_udp/
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

[Mac Dearman]

I wouldn't mind living in Idaho if it were next to Louisiana :)


Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:19 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range
> 
> Most impressive, thanks for sharing the info.  Must be nice to be in
> Idaho
> =)
> 
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> --- Henry Spencer
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Brad how about my latest one?
> >
> > 32 miles with 18ghz (+19db) radios with 2ft dishes. Availability
> shows
> > 99.99% (31 minutes per year total outage)... but we have a 5.8ghz
> backup
> > link as well. ;)
> >
> > Travis
> > Microserv
> >
> > Brad Belton wrote:
> > > Ha!  You just love rub'n that in don'tcha Travis!  lol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:19 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Depending on your region (due to rainfall), I would guess somewhere
> from
> > 1
> > > mile (Texas) to 10 miles (Idaho). :)
> > >
> > > Travis
> > > Microserv
> > >
> > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> > >
> > > How far will an airpair at 23GHz shoot?
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[WISPA] free video conferencing

[Mac Dearman]

I thought I would drop a line here and pass on a site that seemed really
cool. It is free for up to three to video conference and I guess always free
for individuals to video chat - like Instant Messengers.
 
 www.oovoo.com
 

 

 

Mac Dearman CEO

Maximum Access, LLC.

www.inetsouth.com <http://www.inetsouth.com/> 

Rayville, La.

318.728.8600

318.728.9600

318.728.8642

 




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Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

[Mac Dearman]

   I don’t think that there is a PTMP wireless platform available to anyone
that will support multi users streaming 2Mbps+ off of a single AP. If this
is available – I would like to know whose gear it is and what bank is going
to lend the money to revamp an entire network.

 

  We have always had a bandwidth cap and have always explained to our subs
(before installation) the cap and give examples of the caps in writing as
well as in our TOS & AUP. I also explain that we are in the business to sale
bandwidth and that we do not intend to “punish” anyone for going over the
allotted BW, but that they should be prepared to pay for what they use since
this is not an “all you can eat” buffet for $50.00

 

  If you - as an internet service provider do not have a cap in place and
are selling unlimited BW at a fixed price I fear you are about to be tested
beyond belief. The price of the actual bandwidth is not the problem - - it’s
the price of the pipe between towers and the actual ability of the AP on the
towers. 

 

My wife and I watched 5 Netflix movies over the weekend via internet
streaming. We used 13Gigs of bandwidth and it does use a sustained download
from the AP of between 1.6 & 2.5Mbps as well as around 160pps total. This is
going to be a huge problem for all of us - - especially for rural providers
like myself that have so many 802.11b access points deployed!!

 

Mac

 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

 

You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy AP
is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps downlink
on this AP... that would mean 5 customers per AP (@ 2Mbps each). Nobody in
this market can survive on those ratios.

This service needs capped and people that want it can pay for "video
streaming" which is $100/month extra... that would be my vote.

Travis
Microserv

Drew Lentz wrote: 

In areas like yours, though, some would argue that is the perfect place for
some type of licensed LTE/WiMAX type of service. Even with a Canopy type
service it would beat down the doors of the telco offering only 3Mbps of
service. As more and more devices have bandwidth requirements, the service
providers will fall into line, I believe.
 
Everyone has always pushed for more bandwidth, but it as always come from
the customers as opposed to the devices. It seems like now, the device
requirements will leave the customer with no choice and force them into a
decision of higher consumption.
 
As far as furthering the digital divide, I don't think it will hurt it all
that bad. On the contrary what would be nice to see is the communications
mediums becoming less expensive because of the amount of services required.
Just like the price of bandwidth has changed over the years, I think it will
continue to drop. I would love to see some research data on the cost per MB
over the last 10 years and see what the trend is like.
 
That combined with less expensive and functional equipment (UBNT's Bullet,
the introduction of Mikrotik years ago, for examples) gives operators the
ability to put more bandwidth than before in users hands at a fraction of
the cost. 
 
I think more than anything it will come down to a backhaul battle. Fiber to
the node, fiber to the AP, high capacity microwave links (Bridgewave,
Dragonwave, Ceragon, etc) These are all going to be critically important to
aggregate and transport these huge amounts of data.
 
  
 
 
On 11/24/08 1:06 AM, "Scottie Arnett"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
  

It will further the digital divide. Rural remote locations will be again
left
in the boon docks. Where I live, 3 meg DSL is the fastest available
connection
at $75/mth. Cheapest T1 here is over $600/mth, and fiber? forget it, can't
get
it unless you want to build about 4 towers just to backhaul, or pay
$1200/mth
for each cell tower to put them on.
 
Why should the small ISP's foot the bill for Netflix and these companies
that
are making million's of dollars more than we are?
 
Scottie
 
-- Original Message --
From: Drew Lentz   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List  

Date:  Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:41:41 -0600
 


I'm all for open systems. Limiting the amount of bandwidth at any level is,
to me, a terrible thing to do. I understand that it doesn't necessarily fit
the model as it applies to today's business for many ISPs, but, maybe its
time to change the model.
 
This is where the separation of providers starts to take shape. The networks
that can handle these loads and supply the end-user are going to win the
customers. I honestly think the demand of large scale bandwidth is going to
be fed to the end-user by the consumer electronics market. Look at CES last
year. Look how 

Re: [WISPA] DTV transition..... FACT or FICTION?

[Mac Dearman]

All of our local TV stations (3, 8,10,11,12 & 14) have all completed their
transition to DTV. They are still broadcasting analog as well and will
continue to do so until the deadline. Those who have not completed their
transition by the deadline Feb 17, 2009 will possibly face a huge fine from
what I have read.

http://www.dtv.gov/



Mac



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> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:31 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition. FACT or FICTION?
> 
> 
> 
> I was talking to one of the tv stations engineers out here on the
> coast.
> He has a translator here.
> 
> I asked him how soon would we be seeing the DTV conversion.
> 
> His answer is, not any time soon and we must have mis understood the
> situation.
> 
> Translators are EXEMPT from having to go digital, and to boot, he said,
> out of 8,000 broadcasters nation wide, only 25% or so HAVE to convert,
> all the others, on translators, don't have to.
> 
> Anyone else hear this or know differently?
> 
> 
> George
> 
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Re: [WISPA] DTV transition

[Mac Dearman]

I have some Wi-Fi spray I use on client CPE when their signal degrades. Two
squirts and their old -87 become a -67 instantly!! It comes in several
different colors - - like wifi red, radio white and my favorite of all is
802yellow!!

I have several bottles for sale if anyone is interested. :-)

Mac (not Dearman)





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> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] DTV transition
> 
> I do hope all of you are ready for the new DTV channels!  Just got this
> today and thought I'd pass it along.
> 
> >
> > For Immediate Release
> >
> > Are you ready for Digital TV? Starting in February, 2009, analog TV
> > signals will no longer be available in many areas. To ensure
> continued
> > enjoyment of your favorite programs, you'll need to purchase a new
> digital
> > TV-ready receiver or a set-top converter box.
> >
> > But that's not all you'll need. Due to their continuously-varying
> > amplitudes, analog-TV signals can roughen and damage the surfaces of
> older
> > and heavily-used television antenna elements.
> >
> > Composed of binary ones and zeros, modern state-of-the art digital TV
> > signals can bounce off roughened antenna surfaces, weakening signals
> and
> > rendering some digital TV signals completely unwatchable.
> >
> > Instead of replacing that older and expensive outdoor antenna, you
> can
> > recondition it. After all, you wouldn't throw away your automobile
> because
> > its finish gets weathered and dull, would you? No...  you'd wash and
> wax
> > it!
> >
> > Quintidigital Discount Products, Inc., announces DigiWash (tm) and
> DigiWax
> > (tm), two products guaranteed to increase your digital TV viewing
> > satisfaction.
> >
> > Before you connect your new digital TV receiver or converter to an
> older
> > outdoor antenna, wash the antenna's elements with DigiWash, an
> ecofriendly
> > and biodegradable cleanser that removes roughened analog-signal
> residue
> > and bird droppings.
> >
> > When the elements are dry, simply apply a light coating of DigiWax
> (tm) to
> > the antenna's elements, buff with a chamois or lamb's-wool mitt, and
> > you're assured of DTV reception that's Every Bit As Good (sm).
> >
> > Manufactured with lubricants produced by farm-raised pythons and
> > free-range rattlesnakes, DigiWash and DigiWax will be available in
> > high-end consumer-electronics stores and audiophile boutiques on
> April
> > 1st, 2009.
> >
> > #--30--#
> >
> > DigiWash and DigiWax are trademark of Quintidigital Discount
> Products,
> > Inc.
> > Every Bit As Good is a registered service mark of Crotalus Products,
> Inc.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces

[Mac Dearman]

Joe,


  Looks like you will have whitespace available - -as I used Brains tool
fast like.

I will hit you off list with the attachment. 


THANKS BRIAN!

Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Joe Laura
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces
> 
> Am I hearing correctly that this new space can only be utilized in
> rural areas? Not for Citys like New Orleans? TIA
> Joe Laura
> Superior Alarm/Wireless
> New Orleans,La.
> www.superior1.com
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Blair Davis
>   To: WISPA General List
>   Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces
> 
> 
>   Ubquity?  Some kind of mini-pci card?
> 
>   Charles Wyble wrote:
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>   Now that TV whitespaces have been approved for our use, let's hear
> from the vendors.  When, how much, and what will you do with it?
> 
> 
> Indeed!
> 
> Who would the likely vendors in this space be?
> 
> Should we put an RFP together and send it around?  I sure want answers
> to your questions as well.
> 
> 
>   Ladies and gents:  I haven't read all of the published information
> yet, but this is the second greatest battle we have come across (second
> only to having unlicensed available in the first place) and we have
> won!  Congrats.  It appears the portable devices are held to 100 mw of
> power, while we have 4 watts (which is pretty much what we have
> everywhere else).  Four watts at these frequencies will carry!
> 
> 
> Yep!
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues

[Mac Dearman]

Steve,


   2442 overlaps both channels 6 (2437) and 11 (2462)

IMHO - you would be better off by staying with non overlapping channels such
as 2412/2437/2462 and deal with the noise by utilizing Horizontal
polarities. Between the noise from others and the overlapping of channels by
yourself - - I feel for sure your issue maker has been found.

 You can utilize individual channels if you move all your clients over to
something like MT or STAROS CPE where you can limit the client to a 10MHz
channel. Tranzeo CPE does not offer that ability and if they did - - it
would have to be the same spacing as MT or STAROS spacing.

 A MT 900 AP may put you in some freed up space or even 5.x  - - but I would
sniff the air before spending a chunk of change.

Good Luck,
Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:23 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> I have scanned from the AP 2422 is the only open channel. Here is info
> from the scan.
> 
> 2462  -35
> 2447  -76
> 2437  -77
> 2447  -77
> 2462  -80
> 2437  -81
> 2412  -82
> 2442  -82
> 
> I know overlap will can kill me but I feel with spacing 2422 is the
> best
> there was a total of 29 APs found all the rest were -86 or more(less).
> 
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:57 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> Note that when you do a scan the AP will disassociate with ALL of your
> clients...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > When you log into the AP that is giving you trouble - - choose
> wireless tab
> > on left and then double click the radio - run "scan" and see if its
> > interference with something else on that channel. Tried changing
> channels??
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:30 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> > >
> > > MT AP side -71 11mb/11mb CCQ=96% Sig to noise=29dB.  Tranzeo -70
> Noise
> > > -102 11Mb
> > >
> > > Steve Barnes
> > > RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:03 AM
> > > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > >   You may have already stated this, but what is the RSSI reported
> in
> > > the
> > > TRCPQ19? What is the SNR reported at the AP in the MT box? If you
> are
> > > running a XR2 in the MT AP and have a CPQ19 as a CPE and do not
> have
> a
> > > signal level being reported of at least  a -84/-83 in the CPQ - -
> you
> > > may
> > > see some strange issues.
> > >
> > >I have seen many CPQ (when connected to a XR2) whose signal
> level
> > > was
> > > at
> > > -85 that exhibited weirdness.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mac
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:27 AM
> > > > To: WISPA General List
> > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> > > >
> > > > It is on v 3.15 there is no unusual disassociation. The issue is
> very
> > > > intermittent and lasts anywhere from 10 seconds to 2 min.  These
> 2
> > > > clients are now to the place that they keep a small ping going to
> my
> > > > DNS
> > > > when the pings go out they just wait until they come back.  (sad)
> > > good
> > > > thing they are patient.  I am not mangling the packets I any way
> it
> > > is
&g

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues

[Mac Dearman]

When you log into the AP that is giving you trouble - - choose wireless tab
on left and then double click the radio - run "scan" and see if its
interference with something else on that channel. Tried changing channels??

Mac



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:30 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> MT AP side -71 11mb/11mb CCQ=96% Sig to noise=29dB.  Tranzeo -70 Noise
> -102 11Mb
> 
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:03 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> Steve,
> 
>   You may have already stated this, but what is the RSSI reported in
> the
> TRCPQ19? What is the SNR reported at the AP in the MT box? If you are
> running a XR2 in the MT AP and have a CPQ19 as a CPE and do not have a
> signal level being reported of at least  a -84/-83 in the CPQ - - you
> may
> see some strange issues.
> 
>I have seen many CPQ (when connected to a XR2) whose signal level
> was
> at
> -85 that exhibited weirdness.
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:27 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> >
> > It is on v 3.15 there is no unusual disassociation. The issue is very
> > intermittent and lasts anywhere from 10 seconds to 2 min.  These 2
> > clients are now to the place that they keep a small ping going to my
> > DNS
> > when the pings go out they just wait until they come back.  (sad)
> good
> > thing they are patient.  I am not mangling the packets I any way it
> is
> > a
> > straight through Masqueraded Nat.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Butch Evans
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:55 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Steve Barnes wrote:
> >
> > > I have a odd issue(as always).
> >
> > If you are running a RouterOS version <3.15, try upgrading.  That
> > has fixed similar situations.  If you are able to watch the tower,
> > when this happens, look at the log to see if clients are
> > disconnecting en masse and then almost immediately reconnecting.  If
> > so, the upgrade should help.  If not, then my question would be how
> > long does this problem last?  Are they losing connectivity for
> > seconds or minutes?
> >
> > --
> > 
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> > * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering  *
> > * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member
> *
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues

[Mac Dearman]

Steve,

  You may have already stated this, but what is the RSSI reported in the
TRCPQ19? What is the SNR reported at the AP in the MT box? If you are
running a XR2 in the MT AP and have a CPQ19 as a CPE and do not have a
signal level being reported of at least  a -84/-83 in the CPQ - - you may
see some strange issues. 

   I have seen many CPQ (when connected to a XR2) whose signal level was at
-85 that exhibited weirdness. 


Mac
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:27 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> It is on v 3.15 there is no unusual disassociation. The issue is very
> intermittent and lasts anywhere from 10 seconds to 2 min.  These 2
> clients are now to the place that they keep a small ping going to my
> DNS
> when the pings go out they just wait until they come back.  (sad) good
> thing they are patient.  I am not mangling the packets I any way it is
> a
> straight through Masqueraded Nat.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Butch Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik issues
> 
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Steve Barnes wrote:
> 
> > I have a odd issue(as always).
> 
> If you are running a RouterOS version <3.15, try upgrading.  That
> has fixed similar situations.  If you are able to watch the tower,
> when this happens, look at the log to see if clients are
> disconnecting en masse and then almost immediately reconnecting.  If
> so, the upgrade should help.  If not, then my question would be how
> long does this problem last?  Are they losing connectivity for
> seconds or minutes?
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Re: [WISPA] mobile install ideas

[Mac Dearman]

Hey folks,



   I bought a new pickup back in April and have been using a DC power
inverter to power a CPE while in the road checking stuff...etc. This is a
PITA and it seems that I have 40 patch cables in the floorboard all the
time.

  I would like to see some pics of installs and hardware to do a permanent
install on my truck using MT and an antenna. I was thinking about mounting
an indoor MT box in my tool box and putting two omni's (5.x & 2.4) mounted
to the tool box. 
The idea of two Omnis on a new crew cab 4x4 does not seem overly sexy to me,
but may be my only out :) 

 Anyone have a better idea??

Thanks,
Mac





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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3

[Mac Dearman]

Randy,

  Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings
at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt
doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks.

Mac




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> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
> 
> Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are
> adjusting for correct power settings.  See
> http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough
> explanation.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> > I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under
> frequency mode
> > make sure that you have selected "manual_txpower" instead of
> "regulatory
> > domain" or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory
> laws
> > without you knowing.
> >
> > Kurt Fankhauser
> > WAVELINC
> > P.O. Box 126
> > Bucyrus, OH 44820
> > 419-562-6405
> > www.wavelinc.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
> >
> > We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni
> and 14
> > dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels.
> However,
> > In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770
> MHz is
> > not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for
> each ap
> > and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that
> selecting a
> > different country other than the good old USA would allow you to
> select the
> > 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp
> setting
> > for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available
> for
> > selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason
> we are
> > getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now
> finally the
> > real question I am asking; is there really a difference between
> purchasing a
> > special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a
> > different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still
> 5770 Mhz
> > no matter what?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Buwa
> >
> > Michiana Wireless
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] [Board] Magid - "White Space Battle Intensifies - Wireless ISP Organization Tries for Compromise"

[Mac Dearman]

Jack & FCC Committee,


   I wanted to thanks all of you for the time each of you have taken, the
outstanding work accomplished, the pitching of the LICENSED-LITE idea and
the outstanding comment to the FCC.

  If we (WISPs) wind up with a chunk of this spectrum after 4 long years of
comments, stalls and put offs - - - OUR FCC committee & WISPA will be
recognized as a wireless crew to be "reckoned" with.

  This battle for whitespace - - win, lose or draw - - - has been a success
for WISPA!

Thanks folks,

Mac




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> Organization Tries for Compromise"
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> http://www.magid.com/publications/magid_morning_facts/news_article.asp?
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Re: [WISPA] reduced signals

[Mac Dearman]

Mark,

   It sounds like water in the coax/jumper or your pigtail (from radio to N
fitting) is bad. If you reused the pigtail and it was hit by
lightening/static discharge it may be fried as well. I have seen times where
they weren't seated well on the radio and cause them to act up too. While
you are there - - reseat the radio in the SBC as well.

Mac




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> Subject: [WISPA] reduced signals
> 
> I have a site running a MT BH and AP. The BH is a RB411/sr5/rootennae
> and the AP is a RB433/XR2/9db omni w/ v3.10. This setup has been up and
> running about 6 months. Last Tuesday we had thunder storms run through
> and I woke uo tp a dead tower. Turned out that the BH power supply
> died,
> great, easy fix. Get back to the office and realize not all customers
> are reconnecting. The send and receive signals are down at least 15db.
> Replaced radios with no change. Realized that we ended up with two
> glass
> tube lightning arresters, one near antennae and the other next to
> radio.
> Pulled the one near antennae and everything seemed back to normal.
> 
> 
> 
> Well Saturday morning I was checking things out and its back to the
> reduced signals. I am at a loss as to what to do. Since Tuesday we have
> had clear skys, cool temps at night and lots of dew.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark McElvy
> AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE

[Mac Dearman]

Harnish,


   You are a good guy, smart and all, but you have some really great help!!
:-)

Send us a recipe for that POE set up - - please?? ;-)


BTW - that looks like a class act POE setup.

Thanks,
Mac





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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE
> 
> Something like the picture attached?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rick Harnish
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rackmount PoE
> 
> Mike Hammett wrote:
> > Does anyone have any recommendations for rackmounted PoE injectors?
> I
> > was
> looking at a Panduit PoE injecting 24 port patch panel, but I imagine
> that'll cost an arm and a leg.  I'm not sure how many I'll need, but
> I'm guessing around 30.
> 
> Good question.  I'm looking for something along those lines, as well.
> 
> Up to this point, I've just used loose ones that I've nailed to the
> wall.  Tacky, I know, but pretty much all I had to work with.
> 
> (Mike, please let me know if you find anything that works for you)
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Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

[Mac Dearman]

I too will have to give "props" to Deliberant's support. 

  We recently came in to several areas where a company had folded up shop
after their USDA grant money ran out. They had 90% Deliberant gear and we
were trying to re-use the customers current radios so there wouldn't be such
an expense on these folks who were left "holding the bag" and no internet
service available to them. To make a long story short - - Sharon (our
Secretary, accountant, receptionist, install scheduler, tech support person,
payroll dept, accounts receivable dept and mother of all my children) called
Deliberant (specifically Caleb) who so graciously sent firmware and led het
through the process of being able to reuse their radios. It goes a long way
to these country folks who were already overcharged for these radios to NOT
have to buy a new CPE or pay a large install fee when they have already been
down that road. The former company had given "wireless" a black eye in these
towns and Deliberants support helped the recover the wireless name when we
were able to get them all back on line for a minimal $$ to the end user.

Thanks Caleb!!


Mac Dearman







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> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:03 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
> 
> I knew Caleb was lurking around here somewhere.
> 
> I have been buying equipment from Caleb (Deliberant) for a number of
> years. I have always been able to call him when I have an issue with a
> radio. If I leave a messege on his voice mail, he always calls me back.
> Even if it is after his business hours, I have gotten returned calls
> from Caleb. I have stayed with this company because of this. I haven't
> found any company that has better customer service than
> Deliberant/Ligowave. I have bought equipment from other companies, but
> it takes days for resolving an issue with the equipment. I do not have
> the time or patience for slow technical support. Or find out that I
> have to go further up the totum pole to get the next tier support. With
> Caleb...the buck stops with him.
> 
> Disclaimer: I have not been paid for these statements. I am not telling
> you anything you do not already know if you have any history with this
> company.
> 
> DSLbyAir, LLC
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Caleb Knauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Caleb Knauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
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> > Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:30 PM
> > Hey Marlon,
> >
> > I wanted to reply to this to you and on the lists to answer
> > your
> > questions and make some things clearer, as there are some
> > points of
> > confusion that can definitely be cleared up (now and going
> > forward) on
> > our part.
> >
> > Deliberant and Ligowave are sister companies.  Originally
> > our new CPE
> > offerings were going to be launched on the Ligowave side of
> > the house,
> > but we decided to move all of the standards (802.11) stuff
> > to Deliberant
> > and focus Ligowave on the proprietary (PTP, PTMP, Mesh)
> > solutions.  The
> > first round of gear shipped with the Ligowave FCC stickers
> > as the
> > updated Deliberant ones were not available yet, hence the
> > different
> > stickers.  Everything now has Deliberant stickers on them.
> >
> >
> > VPOL is with the cat5 connector pointing down, you are
> > correct.  HPOL is
> > with the cat5 connector to the side (rotated 90*).
> > Confusing, yes, and
> > the stickers should be here soon.
> >
> > We do need to add the instructions for the cat5 connector
> > and the
> > support number to the quick start guide.  The first one is
> > always the
> > trickiest!
> >
> > The support number is the main number at 800-742-9865, and
> > it is open
> > 9-5 Eastern.  My direct extension is in my signature.
> >
> > We are completely overhauling the GUI with a Flex backend
> > that is much
> > faster.  We have a beta available, so contact me offlist if
> > you are
> > interested.
> >
> > RSSI value listed on the Status page is basically the
> > difference between
> > received signal and the noise floor.  So if you have an
> > RSSI value of
> > 40, there is 40dB between the noise floor and what you are
> > receiving.
> > We have plans to add the actual received level (in dB) to
> > the Status
> > page soon

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

[Mac Dearman]

  My opinion of insurance is not good! (Insurance is a racket and of Satan
-hehehehe)

When you buy insurance, buy what you can afford and all you can afford. It
has been our experience that we really haven't needed any insurance and it
has been a big waste of money, but I do know that for the other types of
insurance we have in place - - it's never enough when you do need to file a
claim. Don't read me wrong here - I am not saying that you don't need
insurance or that I don't have insurance - - I am simply saying that (with
hard work - not by luck) you will not ever need to file a claim and it will
appear to you as it does me (a waste) until some unfortunate time when
someone throws the monkey into the bicycle spokes and the ride ends abruptly
:-)

 We have a $2M general liability policy w/o omissions

Mac




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> Subject: [WISPA] Insurance
> 
> What do you guys have for insurance policies?  I am working with my
> Hartford agent and I want to make sure I get what I need, but don't buy
> unnecessary policies.
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

[Mac Dearman]

Josh,

 Try these folks;http://www.aretta.com/ 

I have no personal experience with them, but have several WISP buddies who
proclaim they are great. You will have options with them. 

Mac


 

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> 
> It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP
> providers
> mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not
> require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar
> services. Would someone please help jog my mind?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Good Golly Gustav

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Although
> it is tracking to south west Lousiana, it is still too far out the
> detimine
> where the eye will hit land. We just have to be prepared no matter
> where it
> hits. This storm is getting large enough to do a lot of damage to a lot
> of
> areas.
> >
> > As I sit here in south Mississippi, I will be praying that people
> make the
> right decision and get out of harms way. There is no reason why we
> should
> have any loss of life. They know a storm is approaching.
> >
> > I will keep this list updated on how things are progressing on the MS
> gulf
> coast.
> >
> > Best Regards and God Speed,
> >
> > DSLbyAir
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Good Golly Gustav

[Mac Dearman]

Well - - - here we (Louisiana) are again in the eye of a hurricane with the
difference being that this is already a category 5 and Katrina came ashore
as a category 3.

   My first thoughts are of those who have already suffered devastating
losses from Katrina, Rita and Wilma. To understand what these people have
lost - - you would have to have been there behind enemy lines, seeing and
experiencing the pain and suffering, the painful heart breaking squeals of
the survivors cries and the desperate looks on the faces of those who were
desperately - frantically searching for their fathers, mothers, children,
brothers and sisters or anyone who they knew. My thought this evening as I
write this is to please remember to say a prayer for those who may be on the
front line in the days to come. If you serve a God who answers prayer - - -
please take a few extra prayer minutes to remember those relief workers who
give so unselfishly (and so unaware of what lies ahead of them)  to assist
those who live in the affected areas  - - the strength to bear what they are
going to be faced with when they arrive on scene. It is a heart wrenching,
very emotional and life changing event when you stop and think about the way
it has changed so many people's lives. I am talking about the workers - -
not just those who lived in the area. 

  I can honestly say that I don't know if I am mentally strong enough to
bear the pain again - - going back into a disaster zone such as what Katrina
left in her wake. Katrina, Rita and Wilma have left a scar on my soul that
still weeps for the old folks that had no flood insurance, lived on $700.00
a month, (retirement & SS together) homes paid for, 1976 Monte Carlo with
37,000 miles on it and two dogs one day and the next have a lone slick slab
where their home stood proudly yesterday and the landscape washed clear and
clean - - not a brick on the property, but 16 blocks inland they take bull
dozers (Army Corp of Engineers) and shove the carnage, bricks, boards, cars,
trees - - just massive heaps of junk (peoples whole lives & livelihoods)
piled twenty feet high (strung out for miles and miles where the storm surge
shoved it) and shove it off the roads and into huge piles of what is now
called "Garbage." This folks - - being part of this has humbled me deeply
and forever.

  I have had several calls today from individuals, The Washington Post and
John Tully of MikroTik asking about my plan for disaster aid after Gustav.
Well, I guess my plan is to wait and see what is going to happen and see if
the great State of Louisiana is any better prepared this time than last
time. The traffic headed out of South Louisiana is incredible, the busses
are loading up down town New Orleans and the Amtrak has a 6 block line
waiting to board it. There are already some satellite links in strategic
places and it appears that our new (and much improved) Governor (Bobby
Jindal) is already on top of things. It appears he has his priorities right
since he made the call to move LSU's opening football game from a 4:00pm
kick off today to a 10:30 am kick off so folks could get out of town early.

Truth of the matter is - - if you are willing to assist in hurricane Gustav
wireless relief - - send me an email off list and I will contact you ASAP as
things start to mature and we see what the needs may be. Let's do not take
any action until we see what the needs may be - - but let's be prepared to
formalize a group of WISPA Wireless Warriors who can handle some heat!
Please be sure to add all your personal info - cell number, address, home
number...Etc

 I am also proud to announce that WISPA has an air force of one! I will
donate the use of my personal plane to this effort.

Hunkered down praying,
Mac Dearman CEO
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.728.9600
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Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

[Mac Dearman]

Brian,

  It is my opinion that once the internal components of the antenna dry
thoroughly - - you can seal them and put them back into service. It will
depend on how long they were exposed to the water and the amount of
corrosion that may/may not be present as to whether they are actually usable
or suitable for service. I personally haven't ever been able to put one back
into service since they were exposed to water for long periods before they
actually died or got so bad that I noticed a signal level drop on the AP.

YMMV,
Mac



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> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:57 PM
> To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
> Subject: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?
> 
> So, if I have a suspect antenna that might have got water in it, is it
> ruined, or can it dry out, be resealed and work just fine?
> 
> 
> Specifically, I have a couple omni's from sites that seemed to be under
> powered.  The culprit could have been the radio card, pigtail, cable or
> omni, I don't know.  I replaced it all.  The reason I ask about the
> omni
> is because way back a few years ago I got paranoid after I have some
> water issues.  A couple of these omni's I put too much tape and mastic
> on the bottom by the connector.  I wrapped it up too high and thick and
> covered the weep holes in the bottom of the omni.  So maybe I got
> condensation, or water in there if it could not leak out
> 
> So if an omni like that got wet, will it dry and be ok?  What about a
> dipole on a grid?
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: [WISPA] HP Buys Colubris

[Mac Dearman]

Is this not our old friend Demetrius (Big D) Sirdopolis's (sp?) company??

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:49 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] HP Buys Colubris
> 
> Cisco has bought numerous wireless companies over the years. Now HP is
> buying one, too.
> 
> jack
> 
> 
> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/30929
> 
> http://www.crn.com/networking/210001940
> 
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Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme

[Mac Dearman]

I may have gotten my Chucks mixed up :-)

Who is [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> 
> Which Chuck are you addressing here?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> 
> 
> > Chuck,
> >
> >  That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one
> vendor to
> > another. If you have a question - I am sure John would be glad to
> reply,
> > but
> > that "bad tasting" comment is not appreciated by anyone who would
> bother
> > to
> > read your posts. Please try to use a little more tact when commenting
> on
> > list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mac Dearman
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:43 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >>
> >> But no plans to upgrade firmware.  Sounds dead in the water to me.
> >> Especially after two failed releases of the new PtMP gear.
> >>
> >> > We're still in the PtMP business.  It's just that we don't have
> any
> >> new
> >> > PtMP products to release.  M5830, M5580. M900, M2400 are still
> alive
> >> and
> >> > well.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On
> >> > Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
> >> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:29 AM
> >> > To: WISPA General List
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Did I miss some sort of announcement from Trango about not being
> >> > in the PtMP business any longer?  Can you elaborate?
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On
> >> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:21 AM
> >> > To: WISPA General List
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >> >
> >> > They have worked with Trango in the past.  You'd think they'd
> license
> >> > Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP
> >> business.
> >> >
> >> >> I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue.  In our
> dialog,
> >> > they
> >> >> said
> >> >> they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when
> it'll
> >> be
> >> >
> >> >> done, if at all possible.
> >> >>
> >> >> I soon will be evaluating other options.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike Hammett
> >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:32 PM
> >> >> Subject: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For anyone that would like to see the Mikrotik Nstreme protocol
> >> >>> re-designed to support more than 30 clients (their "new"
> >> >>> recommendation), and have lower, consistent latency, please
> email
> >> > them
> >> >>> directly and let them know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They claim
> they
> >> > are
> >> >>> "listening to customer requests" and will work on a solution if
> >> they
> >> > get
> >> >>> enough requests to fix it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please also CC: me on the email so I can have an idea of how
> many
> >> > people
> >

Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme

[Mac Dearman]

Chuck and gang,

  I apologize for my last post (especially to you Chuck) since that was
supposed to have been off list.

  It was "my bad" and I sincerely apologize to all!


Mac





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> 
> Chuck,
> 
>   That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one
> vendor to
> another. If you have a question - I am sure John would be glad to
> reply, but
> that "bad tasting" comment is not appreciated by anyone who would
> bother to
> read your posts. Please try to use a little more tact when commenting
> on
> list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mac Dearman
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:43 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >
> > But no plans to upgrade firmware.  Sounds dead in the water to me.
> > Especially after two failed releases of the new PtMP gear.
> >
> > > We're still in the PtMP business.  It's just that we don't have any
> > new
> > > PtMP products to release.  M5830, M5580. M900, M2400 are still
> alive
> > and
> > > well.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
> > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:29 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> > >
> > >
> > >   Did I miss some sort of announcement from Trango about not being
> > > in the PtMP business any longer?  Can you elaborate?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:21 AM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> > >
> > > They have worked with Trango in the past.  You'd think they'd
> license
> > > Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP
> > business.
> > >
> > >> I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue.  In our dialog,
> > > they
> > >> said
> > >> they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when
> it'll
> > be
> > >
> > >> done, if at all possible.
> > >>
> > >> I soon will be evaluating other options.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mike Hammett
> > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > >> http://www.ics-il.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
> > >> 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:32 PM
> > >> Subject: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> For anyone that would like to see the Mikrotik Nstreme protocol
> > >>> re-designed to support more than 30 clients (their "new"
> > >>> recommendation), and have lower, consistent latency, please email
> > > them
> > >>> directly and let them know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They claim
> they
> > > are
> > >>> "listening to customer requests" and will work on a solution if
> > they
> > > get
> > >>> enough requests to fix it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please also CC: me on the email so I can have an idea of how many
> > > people
> > >>> are interested.
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Travis
> > >>> Microserv
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > > ---
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Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme

[Mac Dearman]

Chuck,

  That was neither neighborly nor a nice comment to make from one vendor to
another. If you have a question - I am sure John would be glad to reply, but
that "bad tasting" comment is not appreciated by anyone who would bother to
read your posts. Please try to use a little more tact when commenting on
list.

Thanks,
Mac Dearman


 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> 
> But no plans to upgrade firmware.  Sounds dead in the water to me.
> Especially after two failed releases of the new PtMP gear.
> 
> > We're still in the PtMP business.  It's just that we don't have any
> new
> > PtMP products to release.  M5830, M5580. M900, M2400 are still alive
> and
> > well.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:29 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >
> >
> > Did I miss some sort of announcement from Trango about not being
> > in the PtMP business any longer?  Can you elaborate?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:21 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >
> > They have worked with Trango in the past.  You'd think they'd license
> > Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP
> business.
> >
> >> I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue.  In our dialog,
> > they
> >> said
> >> they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when it'll
> be
> >
> >> done, if at all possible.
> >>
> >> I soon will be evaluating other options.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
> >> 
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:32 PM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> For anyone that would like to see the Mikrotik Nstreme protocol
> >>> re-designed to support more than 30 clients (their "new"
> >>> recommendation), and have lower, consistent latency, please email
> > them
> >>> directly and let them know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They claim they
> > are
> >>> "listening to customer requests" and will work on a solution if
> they
> > get
> >>> enough requests to fix it.
> >>>
> >>> Please also CC: me on the email so I can have an idea of how many
> > people
> >>> are interested.
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Travis
> >>> Microserv
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [WISPA] RB532 and 40MBps

[Mac Dearman]

If you aren't doing wireless then 40Mbps should be easily achievable. If you
don't gets the expected results then kill "connection tracking" in the
firewall and retest.


Mac Dearman




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:33 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB532 and 40MBps
> 
> Ok guys.  Great feedback on all of this, but back to my original
> question,
> what's the max throughput I could expect from a RB532A? If there was an
> answer my spam filter must have gotten it.
> 
> NAT'ing going on with 3 desktop systems.  Other than that, no queueing,
> no
> firewalling, no routing, etc etc.  Pretty basic setup.  And this is NOT
> wireless - using it for my in-house router.  Sorry, should have
> clarified
> that too.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:56 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB532 and 40MBps
> 
> When it comes to comparing network/embedded CPUs, there is more than
> just
> MHz that needs to be considered.  Some CPUs have multiple cores,
> hardware
> accelerators, etc.  For example, we use a Gemini SL3512 CPU in some of
> our
> products.  Here are some of the accelerators that it has:
> 
> -Layer2/3/4 hardware switching, routing and NAT with 4 transmit queues
> per
> port for QoS support
> 
> -Layer2-7 packet classification into 16 receive queues
> 
> -Transmit acceleration by TCP segmentation, IP fragmentation and
> TCP/IP/UDP
> checksum calculation
> 
> -Receive acceleration by TCP connection table lookup, assembly of
> multiple
> packets belonging to the same TCP connection and TCP/IP/UDP
> checksum verification
> 
> -Hardware Security Acceleration Engine performs DES, 3DES, AES, CCMP
> and
> RC4 encryption/decryption with CBC or ECB mode operation;
> authentication
> with SHA1, MD5, HMAC-SHA1 and HMAC-MD5 hashing algorithm
> 
> All of these functions are then offloaded from the main CPU which can
> perform other functions.  Just the first one (hardware NAT accelerator)
> can
> increase NAT throughput by an order of magnitude.
> 
> -Hal
> Ligowave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bo Ring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB532 and 40MBps
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:54:00 -0500
> 
> > Question is Why does teh 600 series outperform them all, when it
> > has the slowest processor in MHZ?
> >
> > Are Mikrotik's 532a speeds test at 266 or 400Mhz? And the 600 series
> > at 200 or 400? They did specify on their report.
> >
> > Is the 600's Power PC's processor really that much better that it
> gets
> > so much better speed at slower Mhz?
> 
> While I can not speak of it in use between these two routers, there is
> a
> reason why it was logical to move to RISC. They are more efficient
> chips and
> tend to be even more so when they are used in specific environments. If
> anyone is a Mac head from way back, you might remember the raw numbers
> between the 40MHz 68030 and the 25MHz PowerPC when Apple first moved to
> them.
> 
> Bo Ring
> Account Manager
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Re: [WISPA] POE

[Mac Dearman]

Wayne,

  They may just have a really good salesman and an uninformed board. Someone
is leading that circus and that is where you will find the "man behind the
curtain" who is making the decisions.

Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:37 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE
> 
> Cameron-
> 
> First, it is costing us $90,000 for equipment and installation.
> Second, they just had installed a brand new telephone/intercom system-
> non
> VoIP :(
> Third, I am told the PoE capability is for the
> 'future'
> What future is what no one can tell  me/explain.
> 
> Walter
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 7/7/2008 8:20:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Easy  really, more and more locations including schools are using VoIP
> systems  for internal phone systems. So opposed to have a power pack
> for
> each phone,  it is all just provided via the switch. Easier to manage
> for
> the sys admin  in charge. Also certain PoE switches can power their
> Remote AP's for the in  school wifi. There are a bunch of advantages as
> far as flexibility and  management, but for the most part, not always
> needed, but hey, it's just  your tax money paying for it after
> allhaha.
> 
> They are probably  saying it's going to cost 50K to cover up other
> items
> they are buying, your  right, it shouldn't be that much. Keep in mind,
> when they buy these units,  they also list the retail price for the
> equipment instead of what they  actually pay for it most of the time.
> 
> -Cameron
> 
> -Original  Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:  Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:30 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA]  POE
> 
> Can someone explain why a school would want to pay $1900@ for 25  48-
> port
> 
> 10/100/1000 switches with PoE capability for a possible future  need
> versus
> $500-600 for a plain 48-port 10/100/1000  switch?  No one that I can
> find
> has a
> reason except maybe it would  be needed in 5 years.
> 
> Second question, replacing 48 24-port  10/100 switches with the above
> 48-port
> ones, can anyone explain why it  should cost almost $50,000?  I  cannot
> imagine how it would take  even 2 days to do, let alone any tests that
> would be so
> elaborate  and/or expensive.  [My geek son and a few of his  friends
> thought  it
> would take them a day at $100@ plus lunch and extra Diet Dr   Pepper]
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Walter
> 
> 
> Walter W.  Stumpf  Jr.
> Xanadu Group Inc.
> 179 Statesville Quarry Road
> Lafayette NJ   07848-3128 USA
> 973-702-3899
> fax   775-667-1995
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **Gas prices getting you down?  Search AOL Autos for
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Re: [WISPA] Apology RE: Spam from ligowave?

[Mac Dearman]

Thanks for the clarification Ryan


Mac



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> Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Appology RE: Spam from ligowave?
> 
> My (phone's) email client did not completely download  the message I
> received from them, it cut off the the part that clearly explained
> where it was from.
> 
> It was a legit email due to a list I had signed up for. I apologize for
> the accusation of email harvesting on list.  I should have researched
> it more before sending.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Langseth
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:47 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Spam from ligowave?
> 
> Today i got an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED],  i am fairly certain i did
> not give them my address at any point.  I suspect it may have been
> harvested from the list,  has anyone else seen a message from them
> today?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[Mac Dearman]

1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
proceed with enabling encryption. 
2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to dynamic &
bridge1 (or whatever it is)
3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the easiest to
jack up)

Mac




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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,
> but no ping!
> 
> IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
> configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
> the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
> (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
> 
> On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
> >
> >  Mark Nash
> >  UnwiredWest
> >  78 Centennial Loop
> >  Suite E
> >  Eugene, OR 97401
> >  541-998-
> >  541-998-5599 fax
> >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: "WISPA General List" 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
> >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but
> no
> >  ping!
> >
> >
> >  > All,
> >  >
> >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
> >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
> correct
> >  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
> >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
> >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
> >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
> double/triple
> >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year
> and
> >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
> here as
> >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
> >  > system be up!
> >  >
> >  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT
> experience
> >  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
> >  >
> >  > Thank you kindly,
> >  > Marshall Craw
> >  > Rabbit Meadows Tech.
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Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

[Mac Dearman]

Kurt,

  What firmware are you running?
How many emails are you filtering?
Have you done a "hard reboot" on it lately?
How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily
Traffic graph/email that tell you this)

I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam
that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months)
by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours.

 I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis
this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc)
for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed
and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a
report on how things are going.

Mac



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> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
> 
> Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com
>   it is free to install on any server. I have
> a
> Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I
> don't
> even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so
> un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change
> pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only
> got
> <200 email addresses and its rated for 500.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year
> subscription when you can't even log into it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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[WISPA] Board Member Candidates list

[Mac Dearman]

WISPA Members,

 

 

As Secretary of WISPA I am proud to announce the 12 qualified WISPA
members that have applied and met the hurdle criteria for a seat on the
Board of Directors. The Board of Directors met this morning and went over
each application to ensure that the "hurdle criteria" had been met according
to WISPA Bylaws. The following list contains the qualified WISPA members who
are eligible to seek a seat on the 2008 Board of Directors.

 

WISPA BOARD CANDIDATES to be considered: (alphabetical by first name)

 

Dennis Burgess

Frank Muto

George Rogato

Jack Unger

Jeff Crews

John Scrivner

Mac Dearman

Matt Larsen

Michael Steed

Rick Harnish

Tom DeReggi

Tony Morella

 

 

My first thoughts are to thank each and every one of these men who filled
out an application - - those who met the criteria and deemed eligible as
well as those who did not qualify due to not meeting the hurdle criteria for
election possibilities this year. If we didn't have these guys - we wouldn't
have any options for our future leadership. 7 of the 12 will be elected to a
seat on the board. For those of us who may not be (re-elected) elected this
time around I would like to thank you for your dedication, decision and
willingness to assist in this role. Good Luck to all. 

 

A link to the WISPA website with each candidate's application will be posted
to list for consideration of your vote as soon as the information is
uploaded to the server and made available later today.

 

 

  The election process of WISPA board should be taken to heart and every
WISPA member should be sure to cast their vote. Voting dates have been set
by the current WISPA board and election will take place June 23 & 24. More
information about voting, how to vote and what to look for via your email
address will be posted to this list as the week progresses.

 

 

Sincerely,

Mac Dearman 

WISPA Secretary

 




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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

[Mac Dearman]

Mike asked:
> How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
> antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?

  
  My being the smart a** that I naturally am (and can't seem to help) and
would not take this answer to the bank but, the logical answer seems to be
2.5dbi :)

Mac



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> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:43 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Quote
> 
> This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the
> following MTI antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar
> antenna.
> 
> MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH
> 
> How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
> antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?
> 
> 
> --
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Re: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants

[Mac Dearman]

The best thing about Jeremy (like Butch Evans
w/MT/ImageStream/Cisco/FreeBSD...etc) is that he can do about anything Linux
related and an integration/collaboration Guru with most any application. He
is a good guy to boot - - -- unlike Butch Evans


Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jory Privett
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:11 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants
> 
> Agreed  He is the best
> 
> Jory Privett
> WCCS
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants
> 
> 
> > Jeremy Davis
> > Maximum Technologies, LLC
> > 107 Mc Manus Rd.
> > Rayville, LA 71201
> >
> > Office 318-303-4725
> > Cell 317-219-8006
> > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Tell him I sent ya.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
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> >
> > - Original Message -
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> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:23 AM
> > Subject: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants
> >
> >
> >> Does anyone know of third party consultants for freeside, or do that
> >> type of work?
> >>
> >>
> >> Contact me offlist, thanks.
> >>
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ryan Langseth
> >> System Administrator
> >> InvisiMax
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Re: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants

[Mac Dearman]

Jeremy Davis is the Freeside King IMHO

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> Subject: [WISPA] Freeside Consultants
> 
> Does anyone know of third party consultants for freeside, or do that
> type of work?
> 
> 
> Contact me offlist, thanks.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
> --
> Ryan Langseth
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[WISPA] WISPA AWARDS @ISPCON

[Mac Dearman]

All right - 


   Someone needs to release a few pictures of the awards being presented
from WISPA along with who received the awards, what the awards were for, who
presented the awards and a general run down of all things pertinent that
took place at ISPCON.

Any actions by anyone I know while attending ISPCON that would embarrass
that individual - - or good for blackmail at a later date would also be nice
to know (hehehe) Anything too juicy for the list can always be sent
(along with any pics) to my personal email.

 I hope all you guys had a great time and it will be a productive outing for
WISPA. I sure hate I couldn't attend, but I bet I do a better job of
scheduling my calendar next time around! These events are about the only
time I can get around to seeing all my colleagues, vendors and members of
WISPA that I have yet to have the pleasure of meeting. Its also the only
time Jeff Broadwick will buy me a beer!

 J.C.  - - did you buy everyone dinner AGAIN? 


Later Guys,
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[WISPA] 2008 WISPA Board Election Announcement

[Mac Dearman]

 

  The 2008 WISPA Board Election schedule has been set by the current Board
of Directors. 

 

Any and all members who are interested in entering the election process for
a seat on the board are encouraged to do so by going to
http://nominations.wispa.org/   - make sure that you qualify for the
position by checking the "hurdle criteria" and then fill out the application
that is also located by a hyper link at the bottom of the page.

 

 We look forward to having a large field of qualified candidates to choose
from and encourage all who feel they have something to contribute, a heart
for the wireless industry and a desire to step up to the plate to serve this
industry to follow through with the completing of the application. We have
seen substantial growth in the past year in both principal and vendor
memberships and as WISPA continues to grow and mature into what will be the
industries finest lobbying association  - we look forward to being a  "loud
voice" in Washington D.C. for all WISPs.

 

 

DEADLINES TO BE AWARE OF:

June 2, 2008 - Applications are due.

 

June 9, 2008 - Qualified applicants compiled and submitted. Applicant
information is made available via the WISPA Web site for member review.

 

June 16, 2008 - Voting begins

 

June 17, 2008 - Voting ends. Standing Board announces election results.

 

 

 

All members are eligible to run for a board position. Only Principal and
Vendor members are eligible to vote in the election of the BoD. Only one
vote per company is allowed and accepted for the BoD election. Instructions
and credentials for voting will be sent via WISPA mail server for each
Vendor Company and each Principal Member of WISPA. If you are a
member/vendor member and do not receive these instructions for voting (as
well as credentials) it is your duty to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me
at 318.728.8600 to request help in getting your instructions and credentials
for voting in the BoD election.

 

 

ROLE OF THE WISPA BoD

 

The Board of Directors set the policies that will ensure the fulfillment of
all legal and professional responsibility to its members. The BoD also sets
the strategic direction of WISPA and steer it in the direction it deems best
to accomplish the tasks and deeds needed for the advancement of the WISP
community of which it serves.

 

The WISPA BoD is comprised of 7 WISPA Members. Each of the directors shall
serve for a term of one (1) year and until his successor is elected and
qualified, or until such directors earlier death, resignation, incapacity to
serve or removal.

 

All paid WISPA members are eligible for board positions, however the
majority of board seats will be filled by WISPA Principal members as stated
in the bylaws located at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=4 

 

Sincerely,

Mac Dearman

WISPA Secretary

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Re: [WISPA] Lease Agreement Templates

[Mac Dearman]

What kind of lease agreements are you men looking for? Tower? Roof rights??

Thanks,
Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jaron Parsons
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:00 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lease Agreement Templates
> 
> I would also like the lease agreement information.
> Is there a repository somewhere for this information?
> Some kind of online source for members to access these kinds of
> documents and etc.
> 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -
> Jaron Parsons
> Networking Division Manager
> Sumner Communications
> 117 W Harvey
> Wellington, KS 67152
> 620-326-8989 Office
> 620-326-5332 Fax
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 08:48 -0400, Steve Nedolast wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > If the lease agreements are still available, I would love to have a
> copy
> > of them.
> >
> > Thanks, Steve
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Plesk

[Mac Dearman]

Freeside!! 

It is absolutely the greatest thing since sliced bread and the more recent
"wide mouth beer."

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Plesk
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have been running a few plesk hosting servers for the last 3-4
> years.
> About three weeks ago they changed their pricing model from a one-time,
> up front purchase of their software to a monthly lease. We need to add
> another server, but are not interested in a lifetime monthly lease
> option.
> 
> What is everyone else running for domain hosting boxes that allow the
> customers full-control of only their domain?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Sector Placement

[Mac Dearman]

Tom,

  What you are "probably" seeing is the GPS sync antenna if it's on a cell
phone tower. That is what enables them to reuse the same spectrum on all
their towers.

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom Sharples
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector Placement
> 
> Related question - I've noticed that many multi-sector cell towers have
> what
> looks like a single vertical bar located midway between adjacent
> sectors. I
> assume this is some sort of passive tuned element that's been set up to
> reduce inter-antenna coupling and interference, but I have been unable
> to
> find any info on how to design or install these. Anybody out here know?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tom S.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector Placement
> 
> 
> > Ross,
> >
> > In general, physically separate them as much as possible. You do not
> > want the transmitter signal from one sector to overload the receivers
> of
> > the other sectors. That is a form of self-interference. If you happen
> to
> > have a copy of my book handy, you can read more about antenna
> separation
> > on pages 159 - 165. If you don't have the book, then separate 10 feet
> > vertical as a rule of thumb. Other factors such as the amount of
> > frequency separation and receiver selectivity also play a part but
> > that's more engineering detail than I can address here. But now you
> know
> > why you should physically separate your antennas. Many people in the
> > past have had to move antennas apart to resolve this issue after they
> > initially installed them to close.
> >
> > jack
> >
> >
> > Ross Cornett wrote:
> >> Anyone know for a fact if it is worthy to seperate sector antennas
> on the
> >> same tower.   Using 2.4 H Pol 16 db We are readying our 31st tower
> >> location and I have been asked why do we seperate the sectors .
> Besides
> >> the reasonable fact that if you place 3 sectors on a 3 sided tower
> at the
> >> exact same height, you will never be able to climb over them or at
> least
> >> with great difficulty.
> >>
> >> I would like to know first hand examples of anyone having issues or
> had
> >> to move them apart to resolve any issues.  I don't like doing things
> >> twice... you advise is greatly appreciated...
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ___
> __
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> a
> >> man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh
> >> shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit
> >> shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting."
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor CAT5

[Mac Dearman]

   We quit buying Shireen cable because of their spools. We finally gave up
and re-spooled 5 spools of it onto other empty (comscope) plastic spools. We
have also gotten that cable in on wooden spools and they are equally as bad!
Poor quality seems to plague that cable company. The wooden spools are held
together by 4 long bolts, but the bolts pull through the thin wood sides and
the cable will not unspool and if you take it out of the box it is shipped
in - - - - it scatters like a covey of Quail! What a nightmare.

 I think we are going to have to stay with comscope :) till we hear
something else :-)

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:54 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor CAT5
> 
> We have had similar issues but we had about a dozen of them break and
> still counting. The asked me if we would prefer wooden spool within the
> box. I told them yes. Something a bit stronger. I don't know about
> other
> ISP's, but  I know I've been caught in a quick summer rain storm and a
> heavy snow fall and the boxes get wet. I need to have something a bit
> more
> reliable in the future. Other than the current spool/box setup. I've
> had
> no complaints about Shireen cable.
> 
> -Cam
> 
> > I spoke with Shireen (Soe Zarni) about the issue we have been having
> > with the "poor quality" of their reel boxes.
> >
> > Soe told me that they had a shipment that had been unloaded during a
> > heavy rain and that many of their boxes of cable got wet.  Soe felt
> > that this is was the cause of my recent problems with their cable
> > boxes falling apart and wanted an opportunity to send me a "good" box
> > of cable for me to test out.
> >
> > We found no problems with the last box of cable we ordered from them
> > and am very pleased that this "issue" appears to simply be due to
> > water damage.  We do hope that they recognize this as a potential
> > problem in the future and make changes accordingly, but with their
> > excellent service we have no reason to believe otherwise and will
> > continue purchasing Cat5 cable from them.
> >
> > It's also worth noting that Soe offered us credits/discounts for the
> > trouble.
> >
> > We appreciate Shireen's ongoing excellence in customer service and
> > look forward to doing business with them in the future.  It was very
> > clear to me that Shireen was/is serious about their customer's
> > satisfaction.
> >
> > Thank You, Soe!!
> >
> > Chad Halsted
> > Wireless Operations Manager
> > The Computer Works
> > Conway, AR 72032
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Chad Halsted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> I'll check into Belden, thanks.  Yeah, I think I'm done with Shireen
> >> until they figure out a better design.  I'd rather have a simple
> spool
> >> than fight with that crap for one more minute.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Cameron Kilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> > Belden makes good cable too. About $225 for 1000 feet.
> >> >
> >> > Yes the Shireen spool boxes are horrible! We are not going to
> order
> >> > anymore until they fix this.
> >> >
> >> > Cameron
> >> > Midcoast Internet
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> On
> >> > Behalf Of Chad Halsted
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:15 PM
> >> > To: WISPA General List
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor CAT5
> >> >
> >> > For those using Shireen cable, do you guys not have problems with
> the
> >> > poor quality of their reel/box container?  We have had almost
> every
> >> > box come apart on us before we get 200' of cable pulled off the
> reel.
> >> > The wire is too loosely wrapped which causes the wire to sink down
> >> > into the lower wraps.  It's just been a mess.  We pay $175.00 for
> the
> >> > Shireen cable and up until lately we had been pleased with it, but
> now
> >> > the boxes are so poorly designed we just spend way to much time in
> the
> >> > field fighting with it.
> >> >
> >> > For those not using Shireen, where do you get a shielded outdoor
> >> > cable?  We haven't had very good success using a non-shielded
> cable
> >> > due to all the lightning (inductance) surges.  So, we have to use
> >> > shielded, but not much luck finding a Vendor other than Shireen
> that
> >> > carries it for a fair price.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Ron Wallace
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Try -www.cablesforless.com-Good Prices and Q
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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[WISPA] bandwidth needed in Lake Wales Florida

[Mac Dearman]

Does anyone have a lead for someone who could provide a PTP link supplying
bandwidth into Lake Wales, Florida? 

 

Thanks,

Mac Dearman CEO

Maximum Access, LLC.

www.inetsouth.com <http://www.inetsouth.com/> 

Rayville, La.

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[WISPA] 700 MHz winners list

[Mac Dearman]

For those of you interested in seeing the winners of the 700MHz auction 73:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-595A2.pdf



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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON

[Mac Dearman]

I agree with Chuck - - the ability to sit down and converse with others in
the industry is worth the $700.00 alone. I learn more from sitting and
talking with other operators than anything else. The sharing of ideas (and
drinks) of the way others do things has been a great investment of time for
us. The class room time is great too and I know we will have some really
good sessions at this ISPCON. There are experienced and knowledgeable people
slated to speak who I really respect - - I look forward to the trip!

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I think it is worth every penny to go at least once a year if you
> count the business ideas and interchange you get when meeting some of
> your fellow owners, even aside from the value of the educational
> sessions. There's stuff that gets discussed that just doesn't come up
> in email, or doesn't come up in the same way in email. It's made more
> than a $700 difference for me in my business. It's also amazing how
> nice a lot of these folks are when you get to meet them in person.
> 
> I think you can just do the show floor (which is free or close to
> free iirc), but you're likely to miss a lot not being in sessions
> with most everyone else since many conversations are sparked by the
> topics at hand or between sessions. But going and missing he sessions
> is better than not going at all IMHO.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> 
> > Holy crap!  I just went to ispcon.com  to check out how much it
> > costs.  It's $700.  Does that even come close to being worth it?
> > Who is going?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>
> >> I've only registered for the exhibit floor, but I'll be there for
> >> whatever's free! haha, maybe I'll have money later this year to
> >> start getting memberships. There will be two of us. --
> >> Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
> >> - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'"
> >> ; "'Principal WISPA Member List'"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 06,
> >> 2008 6:47 PM Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON
> >>>
> >>> Everyone, HYPERLINK "http://www.ispcon.com/"ISPCON is rapidly
> >>> approaching even though winter seems to keep coming. WISPA is
> >>> planning a "WISPA Powered" track with a full slate of speakers at
> >>> this event. This is one of two Wireless tracks at ISPCON. WISPA
> >>> will also be holding our WISPA Reception on May 13th at 6:30 pm.
> >>> This event will be sponsored by HYPERLINK "http://
> >>> www.imagestream.com/"Imagestream and HYPERLINK "http://
> >>> www.powercode.com/"Powercode. We are also planning a WISPA "Jam
> >>> Session" this year and will invite attendees who are musically
> >>> talented to bring their instruments and play to everyone's
> >>> enjoyment. This event will be sponsored by HYPERLINK "http://
> >>> www.mikrotik.com/"Mikrotik. Being in Chicago this spring, we
> >>> expect a very good turnout of vendors and operators. We are
> >>> planning accordingly as last fall's reception had an overflow of
> >>> attendance into the hallway. We are asking for a larger room this
> >>> time to accommodate a larger expected crowd given the more
> >>> centrally located venue of Chicago. I will be accepting WISPA
> >>> Shirt orders again this year. I plan on making the order on April
> >>> 20th and need to have all orders in by April 15th. Please send me
> >>> your shirt size, color and number of shirts by this date. These
> >>> will be a nice button down dual blend shirt with the WISPA logo
> >>> embroidered. I have considered adding ISPCON Chicago 2008 below
> >>> the logo if enough people desire it, so let me know. Assuming
> >>> there have been no price increases, I anticipate the cost of the
> >>> shirts will be $42 picked up at the show or $47 if shipped to
> >>> your location. We will hold a raffle again this year and I have
> >>> asked vendors to consider donating door prizes for this event at
> >>> our reception. We hope many of you will consider attending this
> >>> spring as we feel you will definitely get your money's worth. I
> >>> would like to get an idea of how many WISPA readers and members
> >>> will be in attendance, so please RSVP ASAP so that we can begin
> >>> to get an idea on the head count planning on attending. Please
> >>> let me know how many people from your company will be there. Last
> >>> fall, many vendors donated some very nice door prizes including
> >>> HYPERLINK "http://www.alvarion.com/"Alvarion with a Full B100
> >>> link listing at $7990. Many thanks to all the vendors who
> >>> participated last fall and to Patrick Leary and Alvarion for
> >>> their very nice doorprize. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Vice
> >>> Pr

Re: [WISPA] FW: Red Work Binder: Emergency use only!

[Mac Dearman]

All you guys with fancy spancy binders. I carry a pint of Black label Jack
Daniels in my back pocket (feels nice in there) and a tanker for refills in
the hotel room! - --  ahhh memories!!!

Cliff - you ought to be ashamed making these guys think you actually have a
binder like that - -I know where you are from and I know you don't even put
your drinks in a brown paper bag (like good Baptist does)(no comments from
Harnish or Broadwick), but that you actually drink from the neck!!  :-)

Mac



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:45 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: Red Work Binder: Emergency use only!
> 
> I personally have a purple CR binder.er uh pouch!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Anthony R. Mattke
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:08 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: Red Work Binder: Emergency use only!
> 
> I suggest we test this Red Binder out at ISPCON in Chicago. Who is up
> to
> the challenge?
> 
> Muhahaa,
> 
> -Tony
> 
> 
> Cliff LeBoeuf wrote:
> > I have compiled a Master Reference binder.  Inside this binder you
> will
> find
> > "solutions" to everyday ISPs problems.   If you are having problems
> with
> the
> > FCC, difficulty dealing with customers, having billing problems,
> service
> > problems, or any kind of problem, please come and get the red binder
> and
> it
> > will help you through your issue.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Use the red binder for all issues...it is guaranteed to make you
> stress-free
> >>> and relaxed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Mail Server

[Mac Dearman]

It makes me smile to see knowledgeable folks helping some of the rest of us
out when we get in a bind and aren't sure about something or the other.

Thanks to all of you! This is part of what we are about!



Salute!
Mac




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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
> 
> I'll have to see if my upstream can set the PTR or direct requests to
> me to
> specify.
> 
> Will edit the SPF, thanks.
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
> 
> 
> >
> > Since it will be sending mail, you should also set the PTR
> > record to point to the correct name (although if you have a
> > decent DNS management system, it will do that for you) also
> > add that name to your SPF record if you have one.
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> > Ryan
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> >> Through help from people on the lists and then further
> >> investigation based  on those results, here is what I did.
> >>
> >> 1)  I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead
> >> of from the pool. 2)  I made an A entry on one of my
> >> domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is  the machine name).
> >> 3)  I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in
> >> the /etc/hosts file  (copied below).
> >> 4)  I set the from email address (serveremail) in
> >> /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I
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> >> # that require network functionality will fail.
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> >> It only needs SMTP  >ability as it's just so Asterisk can
> >> send out emails.  The machine has  >sendmail installed.
> >> My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the
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> >> properly.  What do  >I have to do so the outside world
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Re: [WISPA] Vertical alignment tips for antenna on pole or crank up towers

[Mac Dearman]

Marshall,


  Check the paid members list

Mac




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> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:31 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Vertical alignment tips for antenna on pole or crank
> up towers
> 
> All,
> 
> I have recently been doing more 5.8G links.  The first challenge was
> on a pole(15') mount with a 22dB grid antenna, link distance of 1.5
> miles, and one end 1000' higher than the other.  It took quite a while
> to get the vertical tilt adjusted.  Looking at the down tilt from the
> ground was quite deceptive.  We finally got someone up a ladder (15')
> and had them aim it down from the back of the grid.It becomes
> clear from this experience that the only way your eyes can help with
> this adjustment, is when they're behind the grid in its final
> location!
> 
> Now, I'm now looking at putting a 5.8 sector antenna on top of a 55'
> crank up tower.   We can't afford downtime for a day of crank up/down
> fun with guesses in adjustments.  Help!  Any tips, links, or
> trigonometry pointers would be appreciated!  In fact any algiment tips
> for antennas mounted  out of  reach would be appreciated.
> 
> I'm finding our WISPA membership most helpful, thanks all!
> 
> Marshall
> Rabbit Meadows Technology
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Re: [WISPA] RB333 enclosures

[Mac Dearman]

Can anyone tell me what they are using for an outdoor enclosure for the
RB333? I just got my first order in and to my great dismay I found out that
the PacWireless enclosures do not have sufficient room to place these in.


Anyone have a nice solution to share??


Thanks,
Mac




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Re: [WISPA] R52H WOES

[Mac Dearman]

I just finished testing these radios and 50% of them were bad. One was DOA
and the others were down anywhere from -10db rx to 
 -20db on the Tx side. One was bad on both sides. 

What are we going to turn to for replacement? I have 3 new towers dressed
out needing nothing but RADIOS I guess the old faithful CM9 will work
since it runs about half of my network now in 5.xGHz.

I must add that Frank Keeney (Pasadena Networks) has already sent me a
return shipping label for the bad radios!! www.wlanparts.com is on the ball
with GREAT customer service!!

THANKS FRANK! And thanks for the great pricing too!! You have earned a
regular customer here today!! (that's me)

Mac







> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
> 
> Mac,
> 
> The last shipment of R52H cards we got (15 total), 11 of them were bad.
> The TX power was down 20db.
> 
> We tested them by setting up an AP with just a 3ft LMR cable attached
> and connecting to it in the office. When we would go into the Signal
> section for the connection, one side would be down 20-25db from the
> other. :(
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
> Mac Dearman wrote:
> >  Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to test
> their
> > radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device name
> and
> > price?
> >
> >  Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing all
> kinds of
> > weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one other
> person
> > this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as I
> have)
> > even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my
> supplier since
> > they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my supplier
> will
> > gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even though
> I know
> > they are defective) I would love to be able to test them.
> >
> >
> > Thanks folks,
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES

[Mac Dearman]

That's exactly what I was looking for Brad. Thanks for the link.

Can you tell me how much that puppy costs???

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jenco Wireless
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
> 
> http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Power/Butterfly/butterfly.htm
> 
> Worth every penny.  I have tested one or two of the R52H cards.  The
> power
> levels across the frequencies and bands is very impressive as far as
> how
> even they are.  I will warn you - if you mess with (turn up) the power
> settings you WILL blow them up - almost instantly.  They are set to run
> as
> high as they can with the default settings in MT - also - you really
> need to
> never ever power one on if you don't have an antenna or terminal
> resistor
> hooked up.  These cards put out more power on 5GHz than the Senao 8602H
> or S
> models.  I would recommend getting one of these meters and setting the
> Tx
> down a dB or two for "safety" (make sure you check the performance) -
> you
> need the meter becaust the default settings in MT don't always match -
> although I believe they are real close on these cards.
> 
> 
> Brad Hagstrom
> (Jenco Wireless, LLC)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I just got these twenty in this morning - 2nd day air from Pasadena
> > networks
> > too!!
> >
> >
> >
> > CRAP! J
> >
> >
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:37 AM
> >  To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
> >
> >
> >
> > These came from Pasadena Networks (wlanparts.com) and I reported it.
> He
> > claims nobody else has said anything (yet).
> >
> > Travis
> > Microserv
> >
> > Mac Dearman wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Travis!
> >
> >  Yeah - that's how we have been testing them too before we take them
> out
> > and hang them on a tower. I just got twenty more in this morning and
> about
> > to test them. The last batch of twenty a couple weeks ago caught us
> off
> > guard and we built out two new tower sites only to realize that
> hardly
> > nothing in 5.xGHz worked or would make link.
> >
> > Can I ask if you told your supplier about this and when? I wonder if
> we
> > are
> > buying from the same place. Wisp-router???
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:05 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
> >
> > Mac,
> >
> > The last shipment of R52H cards we got (15 total), 11 of them were
> bad.
> > The TX power was down 20db.
> >
> > We tested them by setting up an AP with just a 3ft LMR cable attached
> > and connecting to it in the office. When we would go into the Signal
> > section for the connection, one side would be down 20-25db from the
> > other. :(
> >
> > Travis
> > Microserv
> >
> > Mac Dearman wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to test
> >
> >
> > their
> >
> >
> > radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device name
> >
> >
> > and
> >
> >
> > price?
> >
> >  Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing all
> >
> >
> > kinds of
> >
> >
> > weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one other
> >
> >
> > person
> >
> >
> > this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as I
> >
> >
> > have)
> >
> >
> > even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my
> >
> >
> > supplier since
> >
> >
> > they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my supplier
> >
> >
> > will
> >
> >
> > gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even though
> >
> >
> > I know
> >
> >
> >

Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES

[Mac Dearman]

I just got these twenty in this morning - 2nd day air from Pasadena networks
too!!  

 

CRAP! J

 

Mac

 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES

 

These came from Pasadena Networks (wlanparts.com) and I reported it. He
claims nobody else has said anything (yet).

Travis
Microserv

Mac Dearman wrote: 

Thanks Travis!
 
  Yeah - that's how we have been testing them too before we take them out
and hang them on a tower. I just got twenty more in this morning and about
to test them. The last batch of twenty a couple weeks ago caught us off
guard and we built out two new tower sites only to realize that hardly
nothing in 5.xGHz worked or would make link. 
 
Can I ask if you told your supplier about this and when? I wonder if we are
buying from the same place. Wisp-router???
 
Thanks,
Mac
 
 
 
 
 
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
 
Mac,
 
The last shipment of R52H cards we got (15 total), 11 of them were bad.
The TX power was down 20db.
 
We tested them by setting up an AP with just a 3ft LMR cable attached
and connecting to it in the office. When we would go into the Signal
section for the connection, one side would be down 20-25db from the
other. :(
 
Travis
Microserv
 
Mac Dearman wrote:


 Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to test
  

their


radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device name
  

and


price?
 
 Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing all
  

kinds of


weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one other
  

person


this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as I
  

have)


even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my
  

supplier since


they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my supplier
  

will


gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even though
  

I know


they are defective) I would love to be able to test them.
 
 
Thanks folks,
Mac
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES

[Mac Dearman]

Thanks Travis!

  Yeah - that's how we have been testing them too before we take them out
and hang them on a tower. I just got twenty more in this morning and about
to test them. The last batch of twenty a couple weeks ago caught us off
guard and we built out two new tower sites only to realize that hardly
nothing in 5.xGHz worked or would make link. 

Can I ask if you told your supplier about this and when? I wonder if we are
buying from the same place. Wisp-router???

Thanks,
Mac





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee R52H WOES
> 
> Mac,
> 
> The last shipment of R52H cards we got (15 total), 11 of them were bad.
> The TX power was down 20db.
> 
> We tested them by setting up an AP with just a 3ft LMR cable attached
> and connecting to it in the office. When we would go into the Signal
> section for the connection, one side would be down 20-25db from the
> other. :(
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
> Mac Dearman wrote:
> >  Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to test
> their
> > radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device name
> and
> > price?
> >
> >  Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing all
> kinds of
> > weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one other
> person
> > this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as I
> have)
> > even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my
> supplier since
> > they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my supplier
> will
> > gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even though
> I know
> > they are defective) I would love to be able to test them.
> >
> >
> > Thanks folks,
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
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[WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES

[Mac Dearman]

 Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to test their
radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device name and
price?

 Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing all kinds of
weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one other person
this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as I have)
even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my supplier since
they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my supplier will
gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even though I know
they are defective) I would love to be able to test them.


Thanks folks,
Mac




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Re: [WISPA] Water Tower

[Mac Dearman]

Mike,

  I will respond on the members list with some info and offer of a copy of
my contracts for water towers/tanks

Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:05 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower
> 
> Those of you that are on water towers, what sort of agreements do you
> guys have with cities for their water towers and how much are you
> paying?  I'm in negotiations with one now.
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] ATTN: BEN MOORE OF PACWIRELESS

[Mac Dearman]

I have sent and received several emails the last few days with Ben - no
trouble. This is the email I have been using:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


GL,
Mac



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATTN: BEN MOORE OF PACWIRELESS
> 
> Does anyone have a phone number for Ben Moore of PacWireless?  His
> emails
> are bouncing, the main PacWireless number wasn't any help, and I need
> to
> make some decisions today.
> 
> 
> --
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> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:09 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] ATTN: BEN MOORE OF PACWIRELESS
> 
> 
> >I can't email you back at the address you sent to me from, nor the
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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless 5.8 grid and water

[Mac Dearman]

I have several hundred PacWireless 21/25/26/29db grid dishes out (some for 5
years+- ~) and have had only one that had water at the antennas Nf feed horn
fitting. This was just last week and when we lowered the whole antenna and
jumper I found out that my previous climber had installed a PolyPhaser at
the antenna and not at the box. I attribute the water due to poor
weatherproofing at the PolyPhaser since I have never had an issue with the
PacWireless grids or solid parabolic dishes.

Mac




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> In the last 2 weeks I have had 2 PacWireless 5.8 grids fail.  These
> units (a 26dB and a 29dB) have water in the connector (N-female on the
> antenna) with no apparent leakage through the installer applied weather
> proofing.  Has anyone else had water get in through the antenna or
> should I assume it is an installation problem?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] exofit tower xp

[Mac Dearman]

I am not aware of anyone on these lists that sale climbing gear, but I have
a guy that I buy from in Tennessee that will absolutely take care of your
needs. You know me (nuff said> and I just leveled with Cliff years ago -
told him I didn't know what I needed, but could tell him what I was doing.
He fixed me up and educated me. They also have some outstanding catalogs!

Ask for Cliff 

1.800.327.4036
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Mac





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> Not Sure,
> 
> Mike
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> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Jim Patient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45

[Mac Dearman]

Gino,

 Thanks for the reply. 

Can you tell me what the link distance and signal level is as well as what
kind of throughput at that distance and signal level?

Thanks,
Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:17 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> 
> One of my links is set to 36 Mbps mode and gives 26 Mbps TCP Hdx, I
> have
> tested on bench the 54 MBps mode and it topped at 43 Mbps
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> 
> Does anyone know what the "actual" HDX throughput would be with these
> Trango
> radios?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mac
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:51 AM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> >
> > We actually graph our pps usage with one of our Alvarion links.
> Granted
> > Alvarion can do about 40,000 pps to Trango's 9000pps or so, but our
> > primary link which handles dozens of VoIP calls and a sustanained
> > 30mbit
> > throuput has never peaked above 2200 pps.
> >
> > However, if you got the money to spend, go with the B100, you'll be
> > happy. Otherwise, Trango 45 is for you. (can't comment about StarOS,
> > never used it)
> >
> > Cameron
> > Midcoast Internet
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:42 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> >
> > Similar in the way of price or features? B100 has been able to do
> VLAN
> > tagging since day one and it also has QinQ. It also supports much
> > higher
> > pps and the capacity stays close to constant regardless of the
> traffic
> > type -- that important for a backhaul link, especially in a world
> > seeing
> > more and more VoIP.
> >
> > Patrick
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Cliff - Home
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:13 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> >
> > Patrick... Are you LISTENING too? :)
> >
> > Can we expect something similar from Alvarion?
> >
> > - Cliff
> >
> >
> > On 2/19/08 9:39 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I do hear you Patrick.
> > >
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> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
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> > > Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:10 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> > >
> > > FYI a sales rep from Trango just informed me that the TrangoLINK-45
> > has
> > > a newly released firmware that supports VLAN tagging on the
> > management
> > > interfaces. It looks like this is what I'll be going with.
> > >
> > > Patrick, I'd love to use a B100 for this shot but a full link for
> > under
> > > $2k is hard to pass up. After all, these are backup links that I
> > would
> > > rather not dump a ton of money into.
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Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45

[Mac Dearman]

Does anyone know what the "actual" HDX throughput would be with these Trango
radios?

Thanks,
Mac


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:51 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> 
> We actually graph our pps usage with one of our Alvarion links. Granted
> Alvarion can do about 40,000 pps to Trango's 9000pps or so, but our
> primary link which handles dozens of VoIP calls and a sustanained
> 30mbit
> throuput has never peaked above 2200 pps.
> 
> However, if you got the money to spend, go with the B100, you'll be
> happy. Otherwise, Trango 45 is for you. (can't comment about StarOS,
> never used it)
> 
> Cameron
> Midcoast Internet
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:42 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> 
> Similar in the way of price or features? B100 has been able to do VLAN
> tagging since day one and it also has QinQ. It also supports much
> higher
> pps and the capacity stays close to constant regardless of the traffic
> type -- that important for a backhaul link, especially in a world
> seeing
> more and more VoIP.
> 
> Patrick
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
> 
> Patrick... Are you LISTENING too? :)
> 
> Can we expect something similar from Alvarion?
> 
> - Cliff
> 
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> On 2/19/08 9:39 PM, "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I do hear you Patrick.
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> >
> > FYI a sales rep from Trango just informed me that the TrangoLINK-45
> has
> > a newly released firmware that supports VLAN tagging on the
> management
> > interfaces. It looks like this is what I'll be going with.
> >
> > Patrick, I'd love to use a B100 for this shot but a full link for
> under
> > $2k is hard to pass up. After all, these are backup links that I
> would
> > rather not dump a ton of money into.
> >
> > Patrick
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Re: [WISPA] Router Help

[Mac Dearman]

Dennis,


THIS WAS BLATANT ADVERTISING ON LIST. 

I expect to see your www.mikrotikrouter.com Vendor membership fees in to
WISPA immediately. WE have been there and had this discussion before and I
am disappointed that you have crossed that threshold again. I will spare you
the schpill again on how you are cheating our actual Vendor Members as well
as WISPA. If we allow you to openly advertise - - then why would anyone
(vendor) ever pay WISPA for those privileges?? An answer to that question
would be nice, but an apology to the Vendor members as well as principal
members and a check for vendor membership are in order.

Sincerely,
Mac Dearman





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router Help
> 
> www.mikrotikrouter.com.  Great for Mikortik Solutions.  1U as well.
> 
> Dennis M. Burgess
> Mikrotik Certified Consultant
> Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
> --WISP/Network Support Services--
> +1 314-686-1302
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:49 PM
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> Bill Price wrote:
> > We are just acquired a wireless network that has 3 tower locations.
> The
> > router they were using was a Dlink DFL210(?) they had set up with a
> 6MB
> > circuit. We need a router that will handle VLANS, handle more
> bandwidth if
> > needed, QoS, firewall (This network does a NAT). Were looking for a
> routing
> > platform that will handle not only Internet, but VOIP and IPTV in the
> > future.
> >
> 
> I use 3550 with the EMI image at my tower sites (and used to for a
> little while at our head end).  It's a switch with routing and QoS
> capabilities.  Now EOL, but easy to come by on the used market.
> Replacement models are 3560 and 3750 I believe.
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Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

[Mac Dearman]

That is cool Travis - Thanks for that info.

  I have been "tip Toeing" around V3.x since it came out and have avoided
downloading it to even try it out. This last batch of RB532's came in with
it preloaded on them is the only reason I have even seen it thus far. I
guess I am a strange puppy and I fit in the category of "don't mess with
nothing or change nothing" if the old way works well:-)   - - good thing the
rest of the world is not that way or we would all still be in T Models, but
then they didn't really work all that well although they beat the snot out
of walking!

  Good to hear V3.2 is stable and I will definitely upgrade all my new RB's
to that. Let me know if you see some boogers - hehehe as I tip toe on down
through the Tulip patch here.

  I hate to say it, but I used to think the rest of the world (all of it)
was really strange, but my wife has just about convinced me that it is me
who is strange and the rest of the world is OK! WOW - that's a strange
thought in itself!! :-)

(Med and bed time)

Thanks,
Mac




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> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:03 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> 
> Mac,
> 
> I have been running in production links and GigE routers since 3.0rc13.
> Our main edge router is MT v3.1 right now and is running perfectly. I
> have upgraded about 10 of our RB532's with v3.2 and it has been perfect
> so far. Some of the new statistics are really cool (like the Potential
> Throughput display for each connected radio, running "pseudobridge"
> instead of WDS, etc.)
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
> Mac Dearman wrote:
> > Travis,
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know anyone that has the new MT v3.x in a production
> environment?
> > I have two RB532's that were just configured using Nstream and I am
> looking
> > at putting them in a work situation. I too am ordering some 333 and
> RB600's
> > if I can find some tonight. The RB532's that are ready to roll are
> actually
> > seeing 12.5Mbps FDX with ~62/~63 - -
> >
> >
> >
> >Let me know how you fair and I will keep you informed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:40 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 5mhz channel, 7.8Mbps one direction
> > 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 40mhz channel, 52.3Mbps one direction
> >
> > All these tests are with Nstreme on, but no framer policy. I know
> people
> > have squeezed more by playing with the framer settings, but we have
> never
> > needed to do that.
> >
> > I'm sure more CPU would help some... but I have no idea how much. I
> know
> > even the RB333 boards (same price as the RB532) have twice the CPU
> power as
> > the RB532s... and I have some of those on the way already. ;)
> >
> > Travis
> > Microserv
> >
> > Jeromie Reeves wrote:
> >
> > What about 5mhz channels? Do you have enough signal to try 40 mhz? I
> > am about to replace 5 links with MT 5.8.   Does more CPU help on the
> > sending side, say P4 to RB133/333.
> >
> > On 2/9/08, Travis Johnson  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Here is a real world MT test running RB532's (333mhz) with v3.2 OS:
> >
> >  5.3ghz, 3 miles, 10mhz channel, 18.3Mbps one direction
> >  5.8ghz, 9 miles, 20mhz channel, 27.3Mbps one direction
> >
> >  A more comparable test would be using the new MT RB600 units (as
> they are
> > almost exactly the same price as the WAR4 boards). I will get a
> couple
> > ordered and deployed so we can do some comparable testing. :)
> >
> >  Travis
> >  Microserv
> >
> >  Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> >  OK, here are some real world examples:
> >
> > 5.3ghz 40mhz channel, 8.5 miles. WAR4/CM9 attached to 29db
> PacWireless
> > Antennas. 50meg one way.
> > 5.7ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles. WAR2/CM9 attached to 29db PacWireless
> > Antennas. 45meg one way (CPU maxes out on WAR2s)
> > 5.7ghz 10mhz channel, 42 miles WAR4/SR5 attached to 34db Radiowaves
> > Antennas. 18meg one way.
> > FDD 5.2ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles X4000/R52H attached to 29db
> > Pacwireless/21db M

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

[Mac Dearman]

Travis,

 

Do you know anyone that has the new MT v3.x in a production environment?
I have two RB532's that were just configured using Nstream and I am looking
at putting them in a work situation. I too am ordering some 333 and RB600's
if I can find some tonight. The RB532's that are ready to roll are actually
seeing 12.5Mbps FDX with ~62/~63 - - 

 

   Let me know how you fair and I will keep you informed.

 

Thanks,

Mac

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

 

Hi,

5.3ghz, 3 miles, 5mhz channel, 7.8Mbps one direction
5.3ghz, 3 miles, 40mhz channel, 52.3Mbps one direction

All these tests are with Nstreme on, but no framer policy. I know people
have squeezed more by playing with the framer settings, but we have never
needed to do that.

I'm sure more CPU would help some... but I have no idea how much. I know
even the RB333 boards (same price as the RB532) have twice the CPU power as
the RB532s... and I have some of those on the way already. ;)

Travis
Microserv

Jeromie Reeves wrote: 

What about 5mhz channels? Do you have enough signal to try 40 mhz? I
am about to replace 5 links with MT 5.8.   Does more CPU help on the
sending side, say P4 to RB133/333.
 
On 2/9/08, Travis Johnson  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

 Here is a real world MT test running RB532's (333mhz) with v3.2 OS:
 
 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 10mhz channel, 18.3Mbps one direction
 5.8ghz, 9 miles, 20mhz channel, 27.3Mbps one direction
 
 A more comparable test would be using the new MT RB600 units (as they are
almost exactly the same price as the WAR4 boards). I will get a couple
ordered and deployed so we can do some comparable testing. :)
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 OK, here are some real world examples:
 
5.3ghz 40mhz channel, 8.5 miles. WAR4/CM9 attached to 29db PacWireless
Antennas. 50meg one way.
5.7ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles. WAR2/CM9 attached to 29db PacWireless
Antennas. 45meg one way (CPU maxes out on WAR2s)
5.7ghz 10mhz channel, 42 miles WAR4/SR5 attached to 34db Radiowaves
Antennas. 18meg one way.
FDD 5.2ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles X4000/R52H attached to 29db
Pacwireless/21db MTI panel.
 5.8ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles X4000/R52H attached to 21db
MTI Panel/29db Pacwireless 30 down, 30 up
 
for comparison: Motorola Gemini Lite (30meg bh) on the same link - 3meg
down, 3 up
 
We have several RB532 backhauls in the air, and even with all the
optimization we can do to them, we never get better than 20 meg in one
direction. Replacing the RB532s with WAR2s (266mhz CPU, comparable to
an RB532) nearly doubles the speed.
 
On comparable hardware, I have not come across ANY Mikrotik system that
will keep up with StarOS when it comes to dedicated backhaul.
 
Matt Larsen
Inventive Media
 
 
Mark Nash wrote:
 
 
 5.3GHz 40MHz channel, 1.5 miles. WAR4-METRO/SR5 inside 24dbi RooTennas.
Testing beyond each ethernet port. 2 weeks non-stop stress-testing after we
installed and before we deployed gave us 70 megs one way. The MRTG graph
looked like a solid block without any deviation.
 
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
----- Original Message -
From: "Mac Dearman"  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"  <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
 
 
 
 
 
 I haven't seen those results, but I have seen 12MbpsFDX with a -63 on both
sides running Nstream2. If we are going to talk REAL THROUGHPUT - - lets
get
real and everyone use real figures. I ain't talking bench test and "maybe"
if I hold one hand in the air, twist my lips standing on one leg.
 
I mean real world - whatcha getting?? Whatcha see and is it a bench test
or
are you in the real WISP world? :)
 
 
Mac
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
 
50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode...
 
Dennis M. Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
--WISP/Network Support Services--
+1 314-686-1302
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
 
Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well.
 
 
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

[Mac Dearman]

I haven't seen those results, but I have seen 12MbpsFDX with a -63 on both
sides running Nstream2. If we are going to talk REAL THROUGHPUT - - lets get
real and everyone use real figures. I ain't talking bench test and "maybe"
if I hold one hand in the air, twist my lips standing on one leg. 

 I mean real world - whatcha getting?? Whatcha see and is it a bench test or
are you in the real WISP world? :)


Mac







> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:51 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> 
> 50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode...
> 
> Dennis M. Burgess
> Mikrotik Certified Consultant
> Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri
> --WISP/Network Support Services--
> +1 314-686-1302
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> 
> Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well.
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> 
> 
> >I think it's alot easier to deal with Mikrotik as a router & wireless
> AP,
> > due to the interface and ease of configuration.  IP addresses, IP
> routes,
> > bridging, DHCP, DHCP relay...many many things are very easy to
> configure
> > in
> > the Mikrotik interface.
> >
> > That said...the hardware, and the Atheros wireless driver in
> StarOS... I'm
> > blown away.  Massive throughput & seriously low latency.  We've
> configured
> 
> > a
> > pair of WAR4-METROs in a PtP link with a SuperAG (40MHz) channel that
> has
> > been pulling 70megs aggregate.  There was a comment about how
> expensive
> > the
> > boards are... I don't think they're expensive at all.
> >
> > Mark Nash
> > UnwiredWest
> > 78 Centennial Loop
> > Suite E
> > Eugene, OR 97401
> > 541-998-
> > 541-998-5599 fax
> > http://www.unwiredwest.com
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> >
> >
> >>I won't hold you to it mac.
> >> As long as your running the latest V3 Star-os on all the radios
> involved
> >> bridging works perfectly.
> >> I have a mostly all routed network, but I do have a 4 bridged PtP
> shots
> >> that work just fine. They are the first hops out of my noc to my
> >> network, Downtime hasn't happened. Nothing has not worked and no
> flakey
> >> weird issues have cropped up. On PtMP, I have no idea because it's
> >> routed.
> >>
> >> Best price I can find is a star-os or now called Lucaya, wp188
> 533MHz 4
> >> port router that lonnie sells bundled with 4 23db cards in a
> >> weatherproof enclosure with power supply and poe. The price on that
> >> board if you pull out the cost of the cards etc is about 120-130.00.
> >> He's always running YSYL deals that is extra cheap.
> >>
> >> And it's 100% FCC certified.
> >>
> >> I haven't used MT, so I can't compare the two. I can only tell you
> what
> >> we have.
> >>
> >> George
> >>
> >>
> >> Mac Dearman wrote:
> >>>   Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very "super"
> >>> reliable
> >>> huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you
> are
> >>> counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS
> is not
> >>> an
> >>> option.
> >>>
> >>> Mac
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM
> >>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> >>>> Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

[WISPA] FW: FCC Form 477 Reporting Reminder (Due March 3, 2008)

[Mac Dearman]

 

 

 

From: FCC477 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:03 PM
To: FCC 477 Contact
Subject: FCC Form 477 Reporting Reminder (Due March 3, 2008)

 

Good afternoon,
Since you were the contact person on a previous FCC Form 477 semi-annual
filing, you are receiving this courtesy reminder about the upcoming filing,
which is due no later than March 3, 2008.  If you are not responsible for
the upcoming Form 477 filing, we will appreciate you forwarding this message
to the person in your organization who is responsible for completing this
form.  If your filing due March 3rd has already been submitted to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], please disregard this reminder. 


The form required for this filing is at

http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477.xls and the detailed reporting
instructions are at http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf.  The
required Certification Statement is at
http://www.fcc.gov/wcb/iatd/form477/certificationstatement.pdf or can be
found on page 14 of the instructions file.  A set of frequently asked
questions (FAQs) is available at

http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html.  

 

IMPORTANT REMINDERS FOR FCC FORM 477 FILERS:

 

1)  If you do not see your "holding company" name listed within the
drop-down list for Cover Page question #3 or if your holding company name
has changed or edits need to be made to the holding company name, please
contact Suzanne Mendez via email at  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or directly by phone at (202) 418-0941.Please use
the drop-down box to select the appropriate holding company name.  This will
make it easier for all affiliated entities to use exactly the same name -
including punctuation - when answering Cover Page question #3.   

 

2)  For spreadsheet rows where you are reporting data in Form 477 column
(a), please be sure to completely answer all the other Form 477 questions
across that row - for example, Form 477 questions (b) through (j) in Part
I.A and in Part II of the form - placing a 0% in data cells where a zero
applies versus leaving that data cell blank.  But keep in mind that you may
leave the entire row blank if the correct answer to Form 477 column (a) is
zero.

 

3)   If a revised Form 477 is submitted after the filing due date of March
3, 2008, it should not show "Original Filing" as the answer to Cover Page
question #7.  Instead, that answer should be changed from Original Filing to
Revised Filing1.  Please make note of the Example filename provided on the
Cover Page and save the form using the filename as indicated by the Example.


 

4)  Please note that incumbent local exchange carriers that are reselling
satellite services via WildBlue, Hughes, or StarBand, are not supposed to
report these lines in Part I, Line 6, (Satellite).  Instead, please note
these lines in the Comments section in Part IV of FCC Form 477.

 

If you have any questions about how to complete and/or file Form 477 after
you have reviewed the reporting instructions and Form 477 FAQs, or if you
are not able to download the form, please direct your questions to
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Thank you.

Sincerely,
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

[Mac Dearman]

  Word on the FCC certified gear is that they are working with USA based
resellers to get them up to speed to offer certified gear. It's all in the
paperwork at this point in time and we all know that the devil is in the
paperwork. It is on its way from what I understand and should be readily
available in the near future.


Mac

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> 
> Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now.  Not sure on anyone else.
> I
> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone
> else.
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that
> was
> > working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.).
> Does
> > anyone know the status on this or if it was even real?
> >
> > Travis
> > Microserv
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

[Mac Dearman]

  Don't hold me to this, but I have been told from a very "super" reliable
huge StarOS user that StarOS does not bridge well at all. If you are
counting on bridging from your client/cpe to the AP -- - - StarOS is not an
option.

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone care to help "compare" a Mikrotik based bridged AP/CPE solution
> to StarOS?
> 
> Here is a quick list I have come up with. I would love to have everyone
> add their thoughts...
> 
> Mikrotik features:
> graphical user interface (Winbox)
> more features (Torch, etc)
> more hardware choices (RB532, RB411, RB600, etc.)
> Nstreme protocol
> very reliable
> 
> StarOS features:
> FCC certified CPE
> lower price
> 'Sync' feature (reconfigure all CPE from the AP side with a single
> change, such as frequency)
> OLSR feature
> VoIP priority with minimal config
> 200 CPE per wireless card (capable)
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik FCC

[Mac Dearman]

Travis,

  Excuse the "copy & paste" from an earlier post I made - but here is what
copied.


I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with the list.
These configurations were tested by Rogers Labs, Inc back in July and made
available on the FCC site months ago along with their FCC certification.
John Tully also stated this morning that there is more certifications
covering more antennas & Routerboards in the very near future.

Looks like PacWireless was a HUGE portion of antenna choice!! Thanks
MikroTik!!


Model: R52
2412.0-2462.0 and 5740.0 - 5840.0 MHz

12 dBi Omni Directional OD24-
12 dBi Omni Directional OD58-12
13 dBi Omni Directional ODH24-13
17 dBi Sector SA24-90-17-WB
17 dBi Sector SA5-90-17-WB
19 dBi Panel PA24-19
24 dBi Panel PA58-24
28 dBi Grid GD5W-28
24 dBi Dish DC24HDPF1P-EZ
32 dBi Dish DA5W-32P

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
> working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.).
> Does
> anyone know the status on this or if it was even real?
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior

[Mac Dearman]

If it were me I would go with the R52H for everything 2.4 & 5.x since that
is where MT has headed and what they devote their time to these days

Mac





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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior
> 
> I would look at the XR cards over the SR cards as they have the newer
> chipsets.
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior
> 
> 
> > Yeah, I think I am going to get SR5s on both ends.
> > With the winds we have been having, won't hurt to get someone up
> there
> > to confirm alignment, too.
> >
> > Mike Hammett wrote:
> >> This may or may not make a difference, but I mostly use 6th
> generation
> >> chips
> >> (R52s, XR5s, and one from Gigabyte).  I'm told they listen better.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Scott Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:55 PM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Strange BH Behavior
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have a backhaul link, RB532 w/CM9 (I think) to RB532 w/SR2 (I
> think)
> >>> that is a great link, most of the time.  Every once in a while it
> will
> >>> quite passing traffic.  If I setup a ping on the 32 on one end to
> ping
> >>> the other, it will go just fine, no packet loss.  But eventually
> all the
> >>> customer connections will stop passing traffic for 10 seconds to 2
> >>> minutes.  Then it starts up again.  All the while the ping doesn't
> seem
> >>> to change its response time.  Any ideas what may be going on?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Scott Reed
> >>> Owner
> >>> NewWays
> >>> Wireless Networking
> >>> Network Design, Installation and Administration
> >>> Mikrotik Advanced Certified
> >>> www.nwwnet.net
> >>> (765) 855-1060
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!

[Mac Dearman]

   

 

  I can't answer that one Travis - other than to say that they managed
it somehow because their routerboard & operating system has absolutely
passed the test with many antennas. There may be a MikroTik Jeanie included
with the sticker.   Hehehe

 

I do know that I did see the test results of the 5.3 GHz /R52 radio and the
test results showed the reduced power in the graphs. I don't imagine it
would be too hard to leave out or disable "certain" abilities of their
functionality. It could be as easy as just not allowing those options to
show up in US models of their software that have FCC Certs. All units that
will be US FCC certified will come as a unit - -we will not be able to build
them ourselves. If we alter it after it has been certified by reloading the
OS - - we uncertified our own gear, but then - - if you alter RedLine or
Trango's gear it is no longer certified either.

 

This was just my $0.02 worth and in no way do I represent MikroTik or their
views/beliefs. The above was/is my own little pea brain and infantile
thoughts J

 

Mac

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!

 

Mac,

Here is where it will get interesting... in the actual MT software. How are
they going to "lock down" the software so the power outputs, channels, etc.
are all within FCC guidelines? They are almost going to have to have a
seperate MT version... which to me seems pretty unlikely. :(

Travis
Microserv

Mac Dearman wrote: 

David,
 
   What this means is that MT has put together a combination of antennas
from different manufacturers connected to their hardware and had them
certified as "meeting the FCC criteria" thus giving them the ability to
produce "exact" replicas of what they had certified. It does not mean that
if we (wireless operators) slam the same gear (identical or not) together
and hang on a tower - - its FCC Certified - - it's not.
 
 The big picture here is that their hardware (whatever routerboard(s) they
used), radios, antennas, jumpers, pigtails, enclosure and choice of antennas
are certified and will soon be on the market for resale with that little
white sticker that seems so important!
 
Mac
 
 
 
  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!
 
Mac Dearman wrote:


I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with
  

the list.
 
[ snip ]
 
Okay, I'm gonna hate myself for asking this, because it means opening
the dread Pandora's Box that is "FCC certification questions."
 
The Routerboard 52 is "just" a mini-PCI card. Is this certification
still valid when you use it as part of anything else? If so, with what?
Can I connect it to a Routerboard 532 with Mikrotik's RouterOS software
and legally use it? Can I put it in my laptop computer? Can I run it
with Valemount's StarOS software, regardless of what antenna it's
connected to?
 
It's nice that this component is FCC-friendly, but you need a lot of
components to get customers online.
 
David Smith
MVN.net
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!

[Mac Dearman]

David,

   What this means is that MT has put together a combination of antennas
from different manufacturers connected to their hardware and had them
certified as "meeting the FCC criteria" thus giving them the ability to
produce "exact" replicas of what they had certified. It does not mean that
if we (wireless operators) slam the same gear (identical or not) together
and hang on a tower - - its FCC Certified - - it's not.

 The big picture here is that their hardware (whatever routerboard(s) they
used), radios, antennas, jumpers, pigtails, enclosure and choice of antennas
are certified and will soon be on the market for resale with that little
white sticker that seems so important!

Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of David E. Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!
> 
> Mac Dearman wrote:
> > I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with
> the list.
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
> Okay, I'm gonna hate myself for asking this, because it means opening
> the dread Pandora's Box that is "FCC certification questions."
> 
> The Routerboard 52 is "just" a mini-PCI card. Is this certification
> still valid when you use it as part of anything else? If so, with what?
> Can I connect it to a Routerboard 532 with Mikrotik's RouterOS software
> and legally use it? Can I put it in my laptop computer? Can I run it
> with Valemount's StarOS software, regardless of what antenna it's
> connected to?
> 
> It's nice that this component is FCC-friendly, but you need a lot of
> components to get customers online.
> 
> David Smith
> MVN.net
> 
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[WISPA] FCC Certifiable MikroTik? YES!!

[Mac Dearman]

I thought I would share some of MikroTik's FCC certified gear with the list.
These configurations were tested by Rogers Labs, Inc back in July and made
available on the FCC site months ago along with their FCC certification.
John Tully also stated this morning that there is more certifications
covering more antennas & Routerboards in the very near future.

 

Looks like PacWireless was a HUGE portion of antenna choice!! Thanks
MikroTik!!

 

 

Model: R52

2412.0-2462.0 and 5740.0 - 5840.0 MHz

 

12 dBi Omni Directional OD24-

12 dBi Omni Directional OD58-12

13 dBi Omni Directional ODH24-13

17 dBi Sector SA24-90-17-WB

17 dBi Sector SA5-90-17-WB

19 dBi Panel PA24-19

24 dBi Panel PA58-24

28 dBi Grid GD5W-28

24 dBi Dish DC24HDPF1P-EZ

32 dBi Dish DA5W-32P

 

 

 

 This is just one short list of gear that has been certified.  

 

 

Mac Dearman CEO

Maximum Access, LLC.

www.inetsouth.com <http://www.inetsouth.com/> 

Rayville, La.

318.728.8600

318.728.9600

318.728.8642

 




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Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Re: Wireless industry slams NAB's white space'misinformation']

[Mac Dearman]

I have mixed thoughts about backing any stand that is for allowing portable
devices in this spectrum. I deal (daily) in a trash hole of spectrum because
of these very same "portable" devices. What do you Wireless Internet Service
Providers want anyway? Do you want spectrum that is fit to be used to
deliver quality broadband at higher rates of data transfer, better coverage
areas, spectrum that cuts the foliage like butter with a super low noise
floor that is allocated and kept up with by the FCC via their ULS site? - OR
- do you want to share the spectrum with every device known to China, Korea,
Japan and the USA as we fight (like we do today) to find a clean channel to
pass a few megs on?

 I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I joined WISPA to allow WISPA
beat the drums in DC for WISPs across the USA. I joined WISPA with the hope
that we will eventually get some spectrum that is fit to use without paying
$2.2 million for the rights to it. WISPA is IMHO just what it says -
WIRELESS INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS ASSOCIATION. I think we ought to go for
what is best for us as a whole. We don't have to alienate anyone and I would
suggest we do just the opposite - -befriend these guys, but be true to
thyself and thy industry first! I'm not ready to act like a politician and
throw out the baby with the wash water. I believe that we will eventually
get what we ask for - if we are persistent. Aligning ourselves beside the
"newly formed" (less than a month old) WIA is not going to hurt us if we
don't, but would absolutely give the WIA the clout to say they have all the
WISDPS supporting their stand - - and believe it or not guys - - DC hears us
loud and clear! There are FCC commissioners who know us by name, who we are,
what we are doing and what we are looking for out of them - let's keep the
bathwater warm and the baby in it.

 This is not the first time we have had to make a decision along these lines
and it won't be the last. Common ground is easily found and agreed upon
without swallowing the hook, line and sinker along with a dab of bait. There
are many issues that we could agree on/support with WIA - I am sure.

One thing is for sure: If you support the newly formed WIA's stance on
utilizing TVWHITESPACE for personal portable devices you can look forward to
a ripped spectrum like we have now where we are all trying to make a living.
The WIA is comprised of companies like Microsoft, HP (delivering just what
we need - every printer will be spewing whitespace noise like they do in 2.4
now) Dell (same thing) Google with their phones and little gadgets and
millions more.

Sincerely,
Mac Dearman






> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Re: Wireless industry slams NAB's white
> space'misinformation']
> 
> Sascha's got a good point.
> 
> So the question is If WISPA alienates groups lobbying for Public
> portable devices, Who all would still be allies with WISPA to fight for
> open
> access to it?
> 
> Sascha infers, not many. What does WISPA think? As much as I respect
> how
> much WISPA has done so far to fight for the rights in 700, my personal
> opinion is WISPA does not have enough mucsle on its won to cause
> effective
> result.  WISPA needs allies.  Everyone I can think of that would be an
> allie, would want portable devices, except other WISPs.
> 
> I truly hate this. It makes us chose between either "sound technical
> theory", versus "Politics", that otherwise might leave us empty handed.
> But
> that might be reality.
> 
> I agree with Marlon, that with personal portable devices allowed, I
> don't
> see how it could ever work out to be effectively used by Fixed
> Broadband
> providers.
> But, maybe a better use for it, is for Portable devices, to give the
> Telcos
> some real competition, and WISPs would just need to modify their
> business
> model to benefit from it?
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sascha Meinrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:14 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Re: Wireless industry slams NAB's white
> space'misinformation']
> 
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:26:54 -0800
> >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's white space
> >> 'misinformation'
> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> Cc: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's white space 'misinformation'

[Mac Dearman]

> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> 
> Can you explain why you feel that way?

 For all the same reasons we complain about now in the trash spectrum we are
making a living in. If personal portable devices are allowed in the
whitespace then it would be no different than what we have today as far as
the raised noise floor. Just think about all the Linksys wireless routers,
portable telephones, garage door openers, baby monitors, outdoor temperature
sensors and only God knows what else that we would all have to compete with
in towns and communities.

Mac 




> 
> On 1/17/08, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've sent a note to WIA and asked if they'd be interested in a
> discussion
> > focused on finding common ground between them and us.
> >
> > It's my belief that WISPA needs to fight tooth and nail to keep
> personal
> > portable devices out of the whitespaces band.  At least at first
> (really
> > forever as far as I'm concerned).
> >
> > Anyone have a problem with that as a firm stance?
> > marlon
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:05 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] Wireless industry slams NAB's white space
> 'misinformation'
> >
> >
> >
> > Wireless industry slams NAB's white space 'misinformation'
> >
> > The row over US 'white space' spectrum continues, with the newly
> formed
> > Wireless Innovation Alliance 
> > stepping up its campaign to convince the FCC and the industry that
> > wireless devices can be used in these areas without interfering with
> > digital TV signals.
> >
> > The WIA last week accused the broadcast industry, as represented by
> the
> > National Association of Broadasters (NAB), of misleading the public
> just
> > as the FCC prepares to test updated wireless devices from the likes
> of
> > Microsoft (the original prototypes failed non-interference testing,
> > though the WIA claims this had more to do with poor testing methods
> than
> > real problems for digital TV signals). These products are designed to
> > work in an unused channel within the digital TV band, but to switch
> to
> > another channel if the first is needed for a television signal.
> >
> > The WIA was formed last month to lobby the FCC to complete testing
> and
> > move forward with technical guidelines. Six House of Representatives
> > members wrote to FCC chairman Kevin Martin recently to urge a final
> > decision in the next few months. The transition from analog to
> digital
> > TV is due to be completed in February 2009.
> >
> > "Upcoming testing of white space concept devices is meant to assist
> FCC
> > engineers to craft the strongest possible rules while ensuring
> maximum
> > public benefit. Yet instead of respecting the FCC's desire to perform
> > concept testing, your recent public misinformation campaign has
> confused
> > the testing process and misled the public and policy makers," stated
> the
> > WIA in a letter
> >
>  re%20WS%20testing.pdf>
> > to NAB president David Rehr
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [WISPA] 18Ghz multi-path

[Mac Dearman]

I don't have any licensed links yet, but I am debating on several in the
near future. 

 

Can anyone tell me what a 18GHz licensed link costs other than your actual
hardware and the procedure for getting the license?

 

Thanks guys,

Mac

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 18Ghz multi-path

 

Hi,

We currently have five 18ghz links... two have been up for almost 4 years
with less than 30 minutes downtime total.

1 - 7 miles, 2ft dishes, 99.% calc'd uptime, so far correct (4 years)
2 - 19 miles, 4ft dishes, 99.999% calc'd uptime, so far correct (4 years)
3 - 14 miles, 2.5ft dishes, 99.999% calc'd uptime, so far correct (8 months)
4 - 15 miles, 2.5ft dishes, 99.999% calc'd uptime, so far correct (8 months)
5 - 28 miles, 2ft dishes, 99.99% calc'd uptime, so far correct (4 months)

We have not seen any multi-path issues with any 18ghz links. We are always
able to get 1-2db better signal than the path calc shows, but it can take a
little time (the 27 mile link took almost an hour to fully align, compared
with 10-15 minutes for the other links).

We are in the 12mm/h rain zone.

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote: 

So what are you guy finding regarding 18Ghz multi-path.
What we learned over this past year is that multipath for Millimeter Wave 
and high Spectrum ranges, is a different animal.
Very picky.  18Ghz specifically is known for negative effects of reflection,

that need to be taken into account in isntalltion design.
 
Any success rates on wall mounting? Are your links path calc'd for 2ft dish 
working with 2 ft, as engineered? Etc.
Are you getting 3- 9s engineering 3- 9's?
 
This question isn;t about gear, its about 18Ghz.
 
(Note if mention distance, please mention rain zone)
 
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck McCown - 2"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"   
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
 
 
  

I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky
behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not
configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys 
have
had a chance to exhaust their remedies.
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
 
 


The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1
antenna
and radio per side, under 300mbps.
I was nothing but impressed with our units.
 
Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all
the
freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But
there
is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
 
Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are
fantastic.
Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only
negative
I found was no adaptive modulation)
 
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
- Original Message - 
From:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"   
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
 
 
  

Matt
 
I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my 
hand
the next day from Canada.
 
Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
 
I have no experience with the trango.
 
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
-Original Message-
From: "Chuck McCown"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
To:"WISPA General List"   
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
 
 
I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock
solid.
Never a problem.  Have several systems.
We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
running well at all.
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Johnson"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"   
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
 
 


Ma

Re: [WISPA] T1 Replacement

[Mac Dearman]

It's as easy as a PPTP tunnel utilizing MT. 

They can do their own routing..etc and all you provide is the tunnel and
intranet access.


Mac



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:54 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] T1 Replacement
> 
> I am looking to replace some T1 circuits with my wireless network.  It
> would be advantageous to have a complete Layer 2 link through my
> network from the Ethernet port I hand to the client to the Ethernet
> port I hand off at the provider's NOC.  No IP monkey business for me to
> worry about.
> 
> What is the most transparent way to do this?  I am looking at using
> Redline AN-80i or someone's 5 GHz WiMax for the PtMP system and a mix
> of Redline, Orthogon, and fiber for the backbone.  I have a preference
> to Mikrotik, then Imagestream routing products.
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
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RE: [WISPA] 700 mhz spectrum auction

[Mac Dearman]

  Seeing as how these auctions are the "Holy Grail" of spectrum - I am sure
that they are not only going to enforce the anti-collusion rules to the tee,
but they are probably hunting for those who may be treading lightly on the
border of the anti-collusion rules. Best practice would to be avoiding any
conversation or mention of these auctions on list and off list!


Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:27 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] 700 mhz spectrum auction
> 
> AU Docket No. 07-157
> 
> Report No. AUC-07-73-F (Auction 73)
> 
> The Wireless Telecommunications Bureau ("Bureau") reminds applicants
> for the
> upcoming auction of 700 MHz Band licenses ("Auctions 73 and 76") of the
> confidential nature of certain information, such as an applicant's
> upfront
> payment amount, license selection, bidding eligibility, actual bids
> submitted, bidding-related actions (e.g., bid withdrawals, proactive
> waivers
> submitted, reductions in eligibility) and other bidding-related
> information
> that may indicate the identity or interests of specific applicants.
> The
> Bureau further reminds applicants that public disclosure of such
> confidential information may violate the Commission's anti-collusion
> rule
> and subject the applicant to enforcement action, including but not
> limited
> to imposition of a forfeiture penalty pursuant to Section 503 of the
> Communications Act, as amended.
> 
> The Bureau adopted anonymous bidding procedures to withhold from public
> release until after the close of bidding in both Auctions 73 and 76 any
> information that may indicate specific applicants' interests in the
> auction,
> including, in addition to the information described above, information
> on
> the winning bidders for licenses in blocks for which the reserve price
> was
> met in Auction 73.   Correspondingly, the Bureau recently warned
> applicants
> that the direct or indirect communication to other applicants or the
> public
> disclosure of such non-public information could violate the
> Commission's
> anonymous bidding procedures and the anti-collusion rule.   To the
> extent an
> applicant believes that such a disclosure is required by law or
> regulation,
> including regulations issued by the U.S. Securities and Exchange
> Commission,
> the Bureau strongly urges that the applicant consult with the
> Commission
> before making such disclosure.
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RE: [WISPA] Radio Mobile

[Mac Dearman]

Thanks for the info Brian!

It has taken me all of 45 years to figure out when to listen, when to shut
up and when to just "shut up and listen." 

I appreciate (as I am sure anyone that struggles with getting RM setup) the
fine advice and direction you give.

>From Louisiana: HAPPY NEW YEARS ALL!!

Mac





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:00 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Radio Mobile
> 
> Radio Mobile is not doing a simple free space loss calculation. There
> will
> be a fade margin factored in based on the numbers you use for mode of
> variability. If you open the path profile window then do a "view"
> "details"
> you will get a text window that shows all the calculation details the
> program used to derive the numbers. That is the first place to start to
> look
> for the difference. The other thing you may be seeing is that if you
> don't
> have the antennas aimed directly at each other, in the calculation you
> will
> be getting the gain from something other than the strongest point in
> the
> pattern.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Radio Mobile
> 
> 
> How do I figure out how Radio Mobile arrives at it's signal level?  On
> a 3
> km link in 5 GHz, I'm off 15 - 20 db from Eje's power calculator.  What
> the
> radio link window says is really close to the input numbers for Eje's
> calculator.  Why they're different is that I actually used the right
> antenna
> files and hard fixed the AP at N, S, E, and W.
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
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RE: [WISPA] WTB Trango 5.3

[Mac Dearman]

Dang it - - that was supposed to be off list :)

 

Mac

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WTB Trango 5.3

 

Yes, I can use them... what's the price? :)

Travis

Mac Dearman wrote: 

Travis,
 
   I am not sure if what I have is even compatible with what you are looking
for, but I have 15 brand new - never powered up Trango M5580M-FSU. If it is
something that you could use - - drop me a line  - - CHEAP - -I mean CHEAP
:)
 
 
Merry Christmas Bro.,
Mac
 
 
 
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] WTB Trango 5.3
 
Hi,
 
I am looking for Trango FOX5300 (5.3ghz only) units. Please reply
off-list with quantity available and asking price.
 
thanks,
 
Travis
Microserv
 
 
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