[WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta installation failed

2011-10-25 Thread maksim.vazhenin
Hi,

Is there any way now to download full package for WiX 3.6.beta installation 
(which doesn't try to download something during the installation)? I tried to 
install Wix36.exe but it failed with the following error:
Error 0x80070002: Failed to download payload from 
URL:'http://wix.sourceforge.net/releases/data/ProjectAggregator2.msi'
(By the way I have already ProjectAggregator2 installed).

Thanks,
Maksim

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Re: [WiX-users] How to display the list of features to be installed

2011-10-25 Thread Peter Shirtcliffe
The first 4 properties under Feature Installation Options Properties would
be the place to start.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370905%28VS.85%29.aspx#feature_inst
allation_options_properties


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From: Wang, Miaohsi [mailto:miaohsi.w...@invensys.com] 
Sent: 24 October 2011 19:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] How to display the list of features to be installed

Dear All,

We would like to display before entering the Execute sequence the list of
features that the user selects to install, but do not know what the best
approach would be. Specifically, the implementation involves getting the
feature install status and organizing the features to install into a list. If
you have any idea, please let us know.

Thanks a lot,
Miaohsi



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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta installation failed

2011-10-25 Thread Albert van Peppen
Hi, this is most likely because there is an issue at wix.sourceforce.org;
When you go to that site you'll see a message like 'This project has been 
temporarily blocked for exceeding its bandwidth threshold'

So maybe someone has the power to fix this???
I can't download the last weekly build also...

Best regards,


Albert van Peppen
Senior System Engineer
Insad Grafisch b.v.

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Onderwerp: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta installation failed

Hi,

Is there any way now to download full package for WiX 3.6.beta installation 
(which doesn't try to download something during the installation)? I tried to 
install Wix36.exe but it failed with the following error:
Error 0x80070002: Failed to download payload from 
URL:'http://wix.sourceforge.net/releases/data/ProjectAggregator2.msi'
(By the way I have already ProjectAggregator2 installed).

Thanks,
Maksim


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[WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta and virus checker

2011-10-25 Thread Peter Hull

Dear All,
I am not able to install the new 3.6 beta exe file (Wix36.exe) because my virus 
checker (Trend Micro OfficeScan) terminates the installer when it tries to 
write to the RunOnce registry key.
I was able to download and run WiX 3.6 from the wix36-binaries.zip archive, 
however my minimal test installer also falls foul of Trend for the same reason. 
(I include my .wxs files below)
 
I've never seen this for any other package I've installed. Does anyone know 
about this or have a workaround?
 
Peter
 
bfirst.wxs
==
?xml version=1.0?
Wix xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi;
 Bundle Version=1.0 Name=First Wix 3.6
  BootstrapperApplicationRef 
Id=WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense /
  Chain
   MsiPackage SourceFile=first.msi /
  /Chain
 /Bundle
/Wix
 
first.wxs
=
?xml version='1.0'?
Wix xmlns='http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi'
   Product Id='{1427C75A-90A8-46e4-B0A7-1BBA7DEEF0F3}' Name='Test Package' 
Language='1033' 
Version='1.0.0.0' Manufacturer='Microsoft Corporation' 
UpgradeCode='{1DF5EE00-3C58-4a94-B57C-63AC18E85A6F}' 
  Package Description='My first Windows Installer package'
   Comments='This is my first attempt at creating a Windows 
Installer database'
   Manufacturer='Microsoft Corporation' InstallerVersion='200' 
Compressed='yes' /
  Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir'
 Component Id='MyComponent' 
Guid='{87D198BF-6B84-4bd8-811E-8831A89FC721}' /
  /Directory
  Feature Id='MyFeature' Title='My 1st Feature' Level='1'
 ComponentRef Id='MyComponent' /
  /Feature
   /Product
/Wix
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[WiX-users] BA: Shutdown() or Quit()?

2011-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran
The documentation for Burn says that a BA should call Shutdown() when 
it's finished. However, there doesn't seem to be such a method, while 
Quit() does exist. Has this been renamed at some point and the 
documentation is lagging behind?

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Re: [WiX-users] Leave an entire feature behind at uninstall

2011-10-25 Thread John Bergman
What about a separate mini-install that has the components you want to leave 
behind like the both SQL Server and the ATI Catalyst packages do?

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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:30 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Leave an entire feature behind at uninstall

1. Don't try to leave a Feature behind. It'll drive you crazy.

2. I'd probably try this... or use no GUID if you don't want to manage the data 
at all.

3. Custom actions are an admission of failure:
http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2007/8/17/Zataoca-Custom-actions-are-generally-an-admission-of-failuresmile/

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Uma Harano uhar...@esri.com wrote:

 Hi,

 As part of a setup logic, I need to leave behind a big chunk of 
 resources on disk at uninstall.  The resources are data files and I 
 have been asked to leave them behind at uninstall. When the setup is 
 run again on the machine where this data is left behind, the user has 
 the option to use the existing data (so it will not get installed 
 again) or install the data (over write the data or install it to a new 
 location).

 Can someone recommend the approach I should take to solve this?

 * A feature that installs this data. Hide the feature at uninstall
 so that it doesn't get removed. But this orphans components and could 
 potentially cause issues, correct?

 * Set the component bit(msidbComponentAttributesPermanent) to not
 uninstall to every component of the data feature (there are MANY 
 components for this data - so I am worried about this)

 * Install data to a different location all the time. Copy the data
 to the data location based on the user choice (Using a custom action)

 Thanks!
 Uma-

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Re: [WiX-users] Leave an entire feature behind at uninstall

2011-10-25 Thread Uma Harano
That was my initial plan - make an exe sort of thing that gets run separately.
The use no GUID option that Rob mentions is perfect for me - I think I will 
pursue that option and see how it goes.
This forum is great - thank you so much for these great suggestions.
Uma-

-Original Message-
From: John Bergman [mailto:john.berg...@xpedienttechnologies.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:04 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Leave an entire feature behind at uninstall

What about a separate mini-install that has the components you want to leave 
behind like the both SQL Server and the ATI Catalyst packages do?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 11:30 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Leave an entire feature behind at uninstall

1. Don't try to leave a Feature behind. It'll drive you crazy.

2. I'd probably try this... or use no GUID if you don't want to manage the data 
at all.

3. Custom actions are an admission of failure:
http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2007/8/17/Zataoca-Custom-actions-are-generally-an-admission-of-failuresmile/

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Uma Harano uhar...@esri.com wrote:

 Hi,

 As part of a setup logic, I need to leave behind a big chunk of 
 resources on disk at uninstall.  The resources are data files and I 
 have been asked to leave them behind at uninstall. When the setup is 
 run again on the machine where this data is left behind, the user has 
 the option to use the existing data (so it will not get installed 
 again) or install the data (over write the data or install it to a new 
 location).

 Can someone recommend the approach I should take to solve this?

 * A feature that installs this data. Hide the feature at uninstall
 so that it doesn't get removed. But this orphans components and could 
 potentially cause issues, correct?

 * Set the component bit(msidbComponentAttributesPermanent) to not
 uninstall to every component of the data feature (there are MANY 
 components for this data - so I am worried about this)

 * Install data to a different location all the time. Copy the data
 to the data location based on the user choice (Using a custom action)

 Thanks!
 Uma-

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Re: [WiX-users] BA: Shutdown() or Quit()?

2011-10-25 Thread Rob Mensching
Yeah, one of the two is wrong. smile/

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:

 The documentation for Burn says that a BA should call Shutdown() when
 it's finished. However, there doesn't seem to be such a method, while
 Quit() does exist. Has this been renamed at some point and the
 documentation is lagging behind?

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[WiX-users] RegistrySearch fails, returns C: or Empty

2011-10-25 Thread Leo Koivuniemi
Hello all,

I am having some problems with an installation using Wix v3
During install of application I run

Property Id=SETUPFOLDER
RegistrySearch Id=SETUPFOLDER Root=HKCU
Key=SOFTWARE\$(var.Company)\$(var.Product)\Common Name=SetupFolder
Type=raw /
/Property

SETUPFOLDER is later used for setting the target of a shortcut in the start
menu. This works when I install or reinstall by running my bootstrapper
setup.exe which then starts the MSI package. But when applying patches for
instance or bypassig the setup.exe and running the MSI directly, then the
registry search returns C: or is just empty. When I check that path in
registry using regedit then I do find the correct value there but for some
reason the RegistrySearch fails and I can't figure out why.

Notable is that this error does not exist in Windows XP, but now as I have
been porting it to Windows 7 I noticed this problem. So basically the code
should work, but it doesn't do that in Win7 (only works if I go through the
bootstrapper exe)

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Leo
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Re: [WiX-users] RegistrySearch fails, returns C: or Empty

2011-10-25 Thread Rob Mensching
What does the verbose log file show?

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Leo Koivuniemi 
universalserial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am having some problems with an installation using Wix v3
 During install of application I run

 Property Id=SETUPFOLDER
 RegistrySearch Id=SETUPFOLDER Root=HKCU
 Key=SOFTWARE\$(var.Company)\$(var.Product)\Common Name=SetupFolder
 Type=raw /
 /Property

 SETUPFOLDER is later used for setting the target of a shortcut in the start
 menu. This works when I install or reinstall by running my bootstrapper
 setup.exe which then starts the MSI package. But when applying patches for
 instance or bypassig the setup.exe and running the MSI directly, then the
 registry search returns C: or is just empty. When I check that path in
 registry using regedit then I do find the correct value there but for some
 reason the RegistrySearch fails and I can't figure out why.

 Notable is that this error does not exist in Windows XP, but now as I have
 been porting it to Windows 7 I noticed this problem. So basically the code
 should work, but it doesn't do that in Win7 (only works if I go through the
 bootstrapper exe)

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks!

 Leo

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta and virus checker

2011-10-25 Thread Rob Mensching
Wow, that's a pretty aggressive virus checker. How do you install software
that requires a reboot with that thing turned on?
Can you open a bug with this information in it? I'm not exactly sure what
we'll do about it but we should at least track the issue.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Peter Hull peterhul...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Dear All,
 I am not able to install the new 3.6 beta exe file (Wix36.exe) because my
 virus checker (Trend Micro OfficeScan) terminates the installer when it
 tries to write to the RunOnce registry key.
 I was able to download and run WiX 3.6 from the wix36-binaries.zip archive,
 however my minimal test installer also falls foul of Trend for the same
 reason. (I include my .wxs files below)

 I've never seen this for any other package I've installed. Does anyone know
 about this or have a workaround?

 Peter

 bfirst.wxs
 ==
 ?xml version=1.0?
 Wix xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi;
  Bundle Version=1.0 Name=First Wix 3.6
  BootstrapperApplicationRef
 Id=WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense /
  Chain
   MsiPackage SourceFile=first.msi /
  /Chain
  /Bundle
 /Wix

 first.wxs
 =
 ?xml version='1.0'?
 Wix xmlns='http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi'
   Product Id='{1427C75A-90A8-46e4-B0A7-1BBA7DEEF0F3}' Name='Test Package'
 Language='1033'
Version='1.0.0.0' Manufacturer='Microsoft Corporation'
 UpgradeCode='{1DF5EE00-3C58-4a94-B57C-63AC18E85A6F}' 
  Package Description='My first Windows Installer package'
   Comments='This is my first attempt at creating a Windows
 Installer database'
   Manufacturer='Microsoft Corporation' InstallerVersion='200'
 Compressed='yes' /
  Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir'
 Component Id='MyComponent'
 Guid='{87D198BF-6B84-4bd8-811E-8831A89FC721}' /
  /Directory
  Feature Id='MyFeature' Title='My 1st Feature' Level='1'
 ComponentRef Id='MyComponent' /
  /Feature
   /Product
 /Wix

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta installation failed

2011-10-25 Thread Rob Mensching
Hmm, I thought we fixed the bandwidth problem by removing most of this
content. Albert, can you refresh your browser to see if you're just hitting
a cached page or not.

Maksim, can you look in your %TEMP% folder and paste in the failing log
file? I'd like to understand why the project aggregator is being downloaded
if you already have it installed (I thought we fixed tha bug).

I'll look for a work around at the same time.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Albert van Peppen alb...@insad.nl wrote:

 Hi, this is most likely because there is an issue at wix.sourceforce.org;
 When you go to that site you'll see a message like 'This project has been
 temporarily blocked for exceeding its bandwidth threshold'

 So maybe someone has the power to fix this???
 I can't download the last weekly build also...

 Best regards,


 Albert van Peppen
 Senior System Engineer
 Insad Grafisch b.v.

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 Van: maksim.vazhe...@emc.com [mailto:maksim.vazhe...@emc.com]
 Verzonden: 25 October 2011 08:27
 Aan: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Onderwerp: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta installation failed

 Hi,

 Is there any way now to download full package for WiX 3.6.beta installation
 (which doesn't try to download something during the installation)? I tried
 to install Wix36.exe but it failed with the following error:
 Error 0x80070002: Failed to download payload from URL:'
 http://wix.sourceforge.net/releases/data/ProjectAggregator2.msi'
 (By the way I have already ProjectAggregator2 installed).

 Thanks,
 Maksim



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Re: [WiX-users] RegistrySearch fails, returns C: or Empty

2011-10-25 Thread Leo Koivuniemi
Hi,
thanks for fast reply!

In the MSI log I can see that it actually finds the correct SETUPFOLDER path
from registry, but then there are some rows saying:
Ignoring disallowed property SETUPFOLDER

But I can see that it finds the correct path because further down in the log
I have something like

AppSearch: Property: SETUPFOLDER, Signature: SETUPFOLDER
MSI (c) (F0:80) [17:32:47:087]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
MSI (c) (F0:80) [17:32:47:087]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SETUPFOLDER
property. Its value is '\\rrdb\xxx\xxx\Setup'.

And then an .ini file is written and it now the log (almost at the very end)
says:

MSI (s) (3C:44) [17:34:07:697]: Executing op:
IniWriteRemoveValue(Section=INSTANCE,Key=SetupFolder,,Mode=0)
WriteIniValues: File: xxx.ini,  Section: INSTANCE,  Key: SetupFolder,
Value:

Note that the value: is empty.

And then at the very very end of the log file it states the properties:

Property(C): SETUPFOLDER = \\rrdb\xxx\xxx\Setup

So again it has the correct value but it does not want to use it when
specifying the target of the shortcut.

Hope this gives you some idea...

Thankful for help!

2011/10/25 Rob Mensching r...@robmensching.com

 What does the verbose log file show?

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Leo Koivuniemi 
 universalserial...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello all,
 
  I am having some problems with an installation using Wix v3
  During install of application I run
 
  Property Id=SETUPFOLDER
  RegistrySearch Id=SETUPFOLDER Root=HKCU
  Key=SOFTWARE\$(var.Company)\$(var.Product)\Common Name=SetupFolder
  Type=raw /
  /Property
 
  SETUPFOLDER is later used for setting the target of a shortcut in the
 start
  menu. This works when I install or reinstall by running my bootstrapper
  setup.exe which then starts the MSI package. But when applying patches
 for
  instance or bypassig the setup.exe and running the MSI directly, then the
  registry search returns C: or is just empty. When I check that path in
  registry using regedit then I do find the correct value there but for
 some
  reason the RegistrySearch fails and I can't figure out why.
 
  Notable is that this error does not exist in Windows XP, but now as I
 have
  been porting it to Windows 7 I noticed this problem. So basically the
 code
  should work, but it doesn't do that in Win7 (only works if I go through
 the
  bootstrapper exe)
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks!
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh sometimes

2011-10-25 Thread john.burak

Bob Arnson-6 wrote:
 
 Nope. ARP/PF doesn't do a wholesale refresh of the program list for MSI 
 packages. When you click Uninstall and it succeeds, it just deletes that 
 one entry.
 

Okay.  I wonder what the difference is between doing an uninstall via the
usual method and doing an uninstall via Change  Remove.   I tried a few
times and the first method triggers refresh and the second doesn't.  It
sounds like it's not on the MSI side of the wall, so I won't worry about it. 
Just makes me curios.

Thanks, Bob :)

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Re: [WiX-users] RegistrySearch fails, returns C: or Empty

2011-10-25 Thread Leo Koivuniemi
Hi again,

I believe I solved it (haven't done enough testing yet though!)!
It seems that the property had to be set as Secure=yes since otherwise UAC
will not allow it.

Will get back to you if I find that it is not solved. But I just tried an
installation that earlier did not work and now it did!

Thanks for all help so far anyway!
Leo

2011/10/25 Leo Koivuniemi universalserial...@gmail.com

 Hi,
 thanks for fast reply!

 In the MSI log I can see that it actually finds the correct SETUPFOLDER
 path from registry, but then there are some rows saying:
 Ignoring disallowed property SETUPFOLDER

 But I can see that it finds the correct path because further down in the
 log I have something like

 AppSearch: Property: SETUPFOLDER, Signature: SETUPFOLDER
 MSI (c) (F0:80) [17:32:47:087]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
 MSI (c) (F0:80) [17:32:47:087]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SETUPFOLDER
 property. Its value is '\\rrdb\xxx\xxx\Setup'.

 And then an .ini file is written and it now the log (almost at the very
 end) says:

 MSI (s) (3C:44) [17:34:07:697]: Executing op:
 IniWriteRemoveValue(Section=INSTANCE,Key=SetupFolder,,Mode=0)
 WriteIniValues: File: xxx.ini,  Section: INSTANCE,  Key: SetupFolder,
 Value:

 Note that the value: is empty.

 And then at the very very end of the log file it states the properties:

 Property(C): SETUPFOLDER = \\rrdb\xxx\xxx\Setup

 So again it has the correct value but it does not want to use it when
 specifying the target of the shortcut.

 Hope this gives you some idea...

 Thankful for help!

 2011/10/25 Rob Mensching r...@robmensching.com

 What does the verbose log file show?

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Leo Koivuniemi 
 universalserial...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello all,
 
  I am having some problems with an installation using Wix v3
  During install of application I run
 
  Property Id=SETUPFOLDER
  RegistrySearch Id=SETUPFOLDER Root=HKCU
  Key=SOFTWARE\$(var.Company)\$(var.Product)\Common Name=SetupFolder
  Type=raw /
  /Property
 
  SETUPFOLDER is later used for setting the target of a shortcut in the
 start
  menu. This works when I install or reinstall by running my bootstrapper
  setup.exe which then starts the MSI package. But when applying patches
 for
  instance or bypassig the setup.exe and running the MSI directly, then
 the
  registry search returns C: or is just empty. When I check that path in
  registry using regedit then I do find the correct value there but for
 some
  reason the RegistrySearch fails and I can't figure out why.
 
  Notable is that this error does not exist in Windows XP, but now as I
 have
  been porting it to Windows 7 I noticed this problem. So basically the
 code
  should work, but it doesn't do that in Win7 (only works if I go through
 the
  bootstrapper exe)
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Leo
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh sometimes

2011-10-25 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
ARP/PF can and does list things that are not MSI products. Could some of those 
non-MSI products use an external API to perform the wholesale refresh?

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 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh
 sometimes
 
 
 Bob Arnson-6 wrote:
 
  Nope. ARP/PF doesn't do a wholesale refresh of the program list for
  MSI packages. When you click Uninstall and it succeeds, it just
  deletes that one entry.
 
 
 Okay.  I wonder what the difference is between doing an uninstall via the
 usual method and doing an uninstall via Change  Remove.   I tried a few
 times and the first method triggers refresh and the second doesn't.  It
 sounds like it's not on the MSI side of the wall, so I won't worry about it.
 Just makes me curios.
 
 Thanks, Bob :)
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh sometimes

2011-10-25 Thread john.burak

Edwin G. Castro wrote:
 
 ARP/PF can and does list things that are not MSI products. Could some of
 those non-MSI products use an external API to perform the wholesale
 refresh?
 

That was the only guess I had.  On closer inspection, I bet Notepad++ isn't
using Windows Installer.  I guess the question is, is it Windows Installer's
fault for the inconsistency within my single MSI (one method of uninstall
refreshes, another doesn't)?  If so, I probably can't fix it per se.  On the
other hand, if it's something about the MSI file, then maybe I could.

- John

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Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh sometimes

2011-10-25 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
I can't think of anything I know about the MSI database schema that would 
change ARP/PF refresh.

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 sometimes
 
 
 Edwin G. Castro wrote:
 
  ARP/PF can and does list things that are not MSI products. Could some
  of those non-MSI products use an external API to perform the wholesale
  refresh?
 
 
 That was the only guess I had.  On closer inspection, I bet Notepad++ isn't
 using Windows Installer.  I guess the question is, is it Windows Installer's 
 fault
 for the inconsistency within my single MSI (one method of uninstall
 refreshes, another doesn't)?  If so, I probably can't fix it per se.  On the 
 other
 hand, if it's something about the MSI file, then maybe I could.
 
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[WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Is it possible to use the standard WiX authored MSI dialogs as the UI for Burn?

Neil

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Re: [WiX-users] Heat -generate

2011-10-25 Thread David L. Beckwith

Bob Arnson-6 wrote:
 
 On 24-Oct-11 10:10, David L. Beckwith wrote:
 I was hoping output from heat payloadgroups and containers would help me
 understand how to create such an animal. Where do you suggest I look for
 clues on how to take a legacy install and containerize it?
 Maybe you could explain what containerize means...g
 

Hopefully I'll use the correct terminology

I'll try to describe what I would like to do and what steps I did to get
there. Some of the documentation in Rob's blogs, etc. imply I can do what I
want and some of what I've done leads me to believe it is possible. I just
don't know how.

Basically, I have a legacy install program that I would like chained.
Specifically, it is Microsoft's Point of Service for dotNet. There is no
ClickOnce install, instead it is delivered as a self extracting zip. It
has a setup bootstapper with a scad full of files in different directories
including an MSI.

I'm under the impression I can create a container or payloadgroup that
contains all these files. Once in a container, I can then include it in the
chain and execute the setup. That is where heat came in. I wanted it to
traverse the tree and give me a container with all the files. But only
-generate component works (not container nor payloadgroup). If it did, I
could probably figure it out from there.

I want this payload to be external from the burn generated bootstrapper
(i.e. not compressed) because it will only be installed once, but not for
updates.

I've been able to use burn and take the MSI and external files it needs to a
payloadgroup and create a standalone bootstrapper. I can then add this into
the chain (I have five other packages chained that work great). However,
this introduces other issues (multiple UACs), another line item in the
installed product list among other issues. I can also add it as a chain
internal to the bootstrapper, but this doubles the size of my install for
something that may not be needed. Thus, it is close to what I need.

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[WiX-users] Starting WiX, when will 3.6 out of beta

2011-10-25 Thread Andreas
Hi,

Sorry if this is an FAQ, please send me a pointer.

I want to introduce WiX in our company. As I read about WiX 3.6 and burn 
it looks like much more powerful as WiX 3.5.
More interesting: I don't want to introduce a tools where the user 
interface will change after a short period of time when it has just 
convinced the other guys.

Therefore I would like to know, when I can use WiX 3.6 in a production 
environment. Do I have to expect a lot of bugs and behavior changes? 
It's already worth to learn the new WiX 3.6 if I just want to install my 
VC++ and .NET programs or should I stay with 3.5?

Kind regards,
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Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On 25/10/2011 18:47, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Is it possible to use the standard WiX authored MSI dialogs as the UI for 
 Burn?

I asked about this yesterday: the BA that comes with Burn has a toggle 
to show the MSI UI, but it will still show its own interface too. You'd 
need to write your own BA to do this.

See the thread Burn: bootstrap a single MSI, not showing BA UI at all 
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[WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

2011-10-25 Thread Adam Kadzban
I'm got an installer working off a modified version of the Mondo UI (wix
3.5) that has three different features, and each feature has a custom dialog
screen that gathers information on how to configure those features.  When
the installer is run in maintenance mode as a change/modify, I want the user
to go from the feature tree page (where they modified which features to have
installed) to the dialogs for every feature that will end up being
installed.  I'm having problems getting the conditions correct on the
Customize dialog's Next button though.

When doing a first time install, the condition only needs to be Feature1=3
for it to work (I've set it up so you can't install as advertised or from
source, so I should only have to deal with 2 and 3 for action state).
 However it looks like action state doesn't getting set during modify - is
this true?  Taking a look at the log, I see this:

MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:024]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedFeature property. Its current value is 'Feature1'.
Its new value: 'Feature2'.
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:759]: Note: 1: 2727 2:
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property. Its current value is '3'. Its new
value: '2'.
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedCost property. Its current value is '0'. Its new
value: '-976568'.

That is from me running the installer to install Feature1 and Feature2, then
running it again and deselecting Feature2 in the feature tree.  Based on
those lines from the log, it looks like it should know that Feature1's
action state is set to 3...but I'm not seeing that behavior.  When I have
the condition just as Feature1=3, I hit next and nothing happens.

There is also the Installed state value, but that alone won't help.  If a
feature is getting uninstalled (in which case !Feature1=3), it would work if
I could also check to see if the feature wasn't being uninstalled
(!Feature1=3 AND NOT Feature1=2), but that's not working either...  I've
been googling around and seen people reference Installed,
MaintenanceMode=Modify, and WixUI_InstallMode = Change, but as far as I
can tell those are all on the product level, not a feature level, which
doesn't help.

Is there some basic concept about install/action state that I'm missing?  Or
am I going about the modify logic all wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta and virus checker

2011-10-25 Thread Peter Hull

 From: r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:26:40 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.6 beta and virus checker

 Wow, that's a pretty aggressive virus checker. How do you install software
 that requires a reboot with that thing turned on?
It's my work system so I don't have access to/can't change the policies it is 
using. I've installed loads of things in the past based on InstallShield, 
InnoSetup etc, and never seen this error message. I can't remember if any of 
them required a reboot but I have installed updates from Microsoft Update which 
did, and I had no problem. It may be that Trend has rules to allow certain 
'well-known' bootstrappers to execute, or maybe none of them do the same 
registry access as you do. I'm guessing it's the function UpdateResumeMode in 
burn\engine\registration.cpp, do you agree?

 Can you open a bug with this information in it? I'm not exactly sure what
 we'll do about it but we should at least track the issue.
Yes I will do when I'm back in work. I am a bit surprised nobody has seen this; 
I would have thought that there would be many other corporate users with Trend 
OfficeScan and a similar config.
Pete

  
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Re: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

2011-10-25 Thread John Cooper
They get set too late.  At the earliest, CostFinalize, and some states are 
really good until InstallValidate.  Your dialogs are occurring before that, 
more than likely.

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Subject: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

I'm got an installer working off a modified version of the Mondo UI (wix
3.5) that has three different features, and each feature has a custom dialog 
screen that gathers information on how to configure those features.  When the 
installer is run in maintenance mode as a change/modify, I want the user to go 
from the feature tree page (where they modified which features to have
installed) to the dialogs for every feature that will end up being installed.  
I'm having problems getting the conditions correct on the Customize dialog's 
Next button though.

When doing a first time install, the condition only needs to be Feature1=3 for 
it to work (I've set it up so you can't install as advertised or from source, 
so I should only have to deal with 2 and 3 for action state).
 However it looks like action state doesn't getting set during modify - is this 
true?  Taking a look at the log, I see this:

MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:024]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedFeature property. Its current value is 'Feature1'.
Its new value: 'Feature2'.
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:759]: Note: 1: 2727 2:
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property. Its current value is '3'. Its new
value: '2'.
MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedCost property. Its current value is '0'. Its new
value: '-976568'.

That is from me running the installer to install Feature1 and Feature2, then 
running it again and deselecting Feature2 in the feature tree.  Based on those 
lines from the log, it looks like it should know that Feature1's action state 
is set to 3...but I'm not seeing that behavior.  When I have the condition just 
as Feature1=3, I hit next and nothing happens.

There is also the Installed state value, but that alone won't help.  If a 
feature is getting uninstalled (in which case !Feature1=3), it would work if I 
could also check to see if the feature wasn't being uninstalled
(!Feature1=3 AND NOT Feature1=2), but that's not working either...  I've been 
googling around and seen people reference Installed, MaintenanceMode=Modify, 
and WixUI_InstallMode = Change, but as far as I can tell those are all on the 
product level, not a feature level, which doesn't help.

Is there some basic concept about install/action state that I'm missing?  Or am 
I going about the modify logic all wrong?

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

2011-10-25 Thread Adam Kadzban
Action state is supposed to be set during CostFinalize, which happens before
my dialogs in the UI sequence (CostFinalize is 800, my dialogs start at
1296).  Also, looking at the section of log I pasted in, I can see the
MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property
get set from 3 to 2 - that is setting the action state (ref:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa371604(v=vs.85).aspx)
though it appears to not actually be doing anything...

-Adam

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:47 PM, John Cooper jocoo...@jackhenry.com wrote:

 They get set too late.  At the earliest, CostFinalize, and some states are
 really good until InstallValidate.  Your dialogs are occurring before that,
 more than likely.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Kadzban [mailto:mightyshorta...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

 I'm got an installer working off a modified version of the Mondo UI (wix
 3.5) that has three different features, and each feature has a custom
 dialog screen that gathers information on how to configure those features.
  When the installer is run in maintenance mode as a change/modify, I want
 the user to go from the feature tree page (where they modified which
 features to have
 installed) to the dialogs for every feature that will end up being
 installed.  I'm having problems getting the conditions correct on the
 Customize dialog's Next button though.

 When doing a first time install, the condition only needs to be Feature1=3
 for it to work (I've set it up so you can't install as advertised or from
 source, so I should only have to deal with 2 and 3 for action state).
  However it looks like action state doesn't getting set during modify - is
 this true?  Taking a look at the log, I see this:

 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:024]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedFeature property. Its current value is 'Feature1'.
 Its new value: 'Feature2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:759]: Note: 1: 2727 2:
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property. Its current value is '3'. Its new
 value: '2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedCost property. Its current value is '0'. Its new
 value: '-976568'.

 That is from me running the installer to install Feature1 and Feature2,
 then running it again and deselecting Feature2 in the feature tree.  Based
 on those lines from the log, it looks like it should know that Feature1's
 action state is set to 3...but I'm not seeing that behavior.  When I have
 the condition just as Feature1=3, I hit next and nothing happens.

 There is also the Installed state value, but that alone won't help.  If a
 feature is getting uninstalled (in which case !Feature1=3), it would work if
 I could also check to see if the feature wasn't being uninstalled
 (!Feature1=3 AND NOT Feature1=2), but that's not working either...  I've
 been googling around and seen people reference Installed,
 MaintenanceMode=Modify, and WixUI_InstallMode = Change, but as far as I
 can tell those are all on the product level, not a feature level, which
 doesn't help.

 Is there some basic concept about install/action state that I'm missing?
  Or am I going about the modify logic all wrong?

 Thanks,
 Adam

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Re: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

2011-10-25 Thread Adam Kadzban
Well it appears you are right.  I just put in a Publish element to show a
popup if Feature1=-1, and it came up...so I don't understand why, but yes
you are correct.  Perhaps during maintenance it isn't set until CostFinalize
of the Execute sequence?  It works during the installation process, though,
which confuses me.

But given that, is there another way I can accomplish what I'm trying to do?

-Adam

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Adam Kadzban mightyshorta...@gmail.comwrote:

 Action state is supposed to be set during CostFinalize, which happens
 before my dialogs in the UI sequence (CostFinalize is 800, my dialogs start
 at 1296).  Also, looking at the section of log I pasted in, I can see the 
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property
 get set from 3 to 2 - that is setting the action state (ref:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa371604(v=vs.85).aspx)
 though it appears to not actually be doing anything...

 -Adam


 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:47 PM, John Cooper jocoo...@jackhenry.comwrote:

 They get set too late.  At the earliest, CostFinalize, and some states are
 really good until InstallValidate.  Your dialogs are occurring before that,
 more than likely.

 --
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 Build  Install Engineer - jXchange
 Office:  913-341-3434 x791011
 jocoo...@jackhenry.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Kadzban [mailto:mightyshorta...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

 I'm got an installer working off a modified version of the Mondo UI (wix
 3.5) that has three different features, and each feature has a custom
 dialog screen that gathers information on how to configure those features.
  When the installer is run in maintenance mode as a change/modify, I want
 the user to go from the feature tree page (where they modified which
 features to have
 installed) to the dialogs for every feature that will end up being
 installed.  I'm having problems getting the conditions correct on the
 Customize dialog's Next button though.

 When doing a first time install, the condition only needs to be
 Feature1=3 for it to work (I've set it up so you can't install as
 advertised or from source, so I should only have to deal with 2 and 3 for
 action state).
  However it looks like action state doesn't getting set during modify - is
 this true?  Taking a look at the log, I see this:

 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:024]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedFeature property. Its current value is 'Feature1'.
 Its new value: 'Feature2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:759]: Note: 1: 2727 2:
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property. Its current value is '3'. Its new
 value: '2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedCost property. Its current value is '0'. Its new
 value: '-976568'.

 That is from me running the installer to install Feature1 and Feature2,
 then running it again and deselecting Feature2 in the feature tree.  Based
 on those lines from the log, it looks like it should know that Feature1's
 action state is set to 3...but I'm not seeing that behavior.  When I have
 the condition just as Feature1=3, I hit next and nothing happens.

 There is also the Installed state value, but that alone won't help.  If a
 feature is getting uninstalled (in which case !Feature1=3), it would work if
 I could also check to see if the feature wasn't being uninstalled
 (!Feature1=3 AND NOT Feature1=2), but that's not working either...  I've
 been googling around and seen people reference Installed,
 MaintenanceMode=Modify, and WixUI_InstallMode = Change, but as far as I
 can tell those are all on the product level, not a feature level, which
 doesn't help.

 Is there some basic concept about install/action state that I'm missing?
  Or am I going about the modify logic all wrong?

 Thanks,
 Adam

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Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread Neil Sleightholm
That isn't really what I meant, I was hoping to use the existing WiX authoring 
as the burn UI not just show the UI in my MSI but I think indirectly you have 
answered my question.

I guess I was hoping for something for free, the current BA UI doesn't look 
very nice if the WIX install is anything to go by I as I don't really write 
UI's I was look for a free lunch!

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk] 
Sent: 25 October 2011 19:26
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Cc: Neil Sleightholm
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

On 25/10/2011 18:47, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Is it possible to use the standard WiX authored MSI dialogs as the UI for 
 Burn?

I asked about this yesterday: the BA that comes with Burn has a toggle to show 
the MSI UI, but it will still show its own interface too. You'd need to write 
your own BA to do this.

See the thread Burn: bootstrap a single MSI, not showing BA UI at all 
for Rob's answer :)

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Re: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

2011-10-25 Thread John Cooper
Well, the only approach that I have found to work consistently across all 
maintenance and install modes is to set properties concerning the states and 
features I'm interested in executed when the Next button of CustomizeDlg is 
pressed.  I can rely on the values of these properties.  I then condition 
further dialogs based on these properties.
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-Original Message-
From: Adam Kadzban [mailto:mightyshorta...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:00 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

Well it appears you are right.  I just put in a Publish element to show a popup 
if Feature1=-1, and it came up...so I don't understand why, but yes you are 
correct.  Perhaps during maintenance it isn't set until CostFinalize of the 
Execute sequence?  It works during the installation process, though, which 
confuses me.

But given that, is there another way I can accomplish what I'm trying to do?

-Adam

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Adam Kadzban mightyshorta...@gmail.comwrote:

 Action state is supposed to be set during CostFinalize, which happens 
 before my dialogs in the UI sequence (CostFinalize is 800, my dialogs 
 start at 1296).  Also, looking at the section of log I pasted in, I 
 can see the MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property get set from 3 to 2 - 
 that is setting the action state (ref:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa371604(v=vs.
 85).aspx) though it appears to not actually be doing anything...

 -Adam


 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:47 PM, John Cooper jocoo...@jackhenry.comwrote:

 They get set too late.  At the earliest, CostFinalize, and some 
 states are really good until InstallValidate.  Your dialogs are 
 occurring before that, more than likely.

 --
 John Merryweather Cooper
 Jack Henry  Associates, Inc. (Premier Tech) Build  Install Engineer 
 - jXchange
 Office:  913-341-3434 x791011
 jocoo...@jackhenry.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Kadzban [mailto:mightyshorta...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Action state not set during modify?

 I'm got an installer working off a modified version of the Mondo UI 
 (wix
 3.5) that has three different features, and each feature has a custom 
 dialog screen that gathers information on how to configure those features.
  When the installer is run in maintenance mode as a change/modify, I 
 want the user to go from the feature tree page (where they modified 
 which features to have
 installed) to the dialogs for every feature that will end up being 
 installed.  I'm having problems getting the conditions correct on the 
 Customize dialog's Next button though.

 When doing a first time install, the condition only needs to be
 Feature1=3 for it to work (I've set it up so you can't install as 
 advertised or from source, so I should only have to deal with 2 and 3 
 for action state).
  However it looks like action state doesn't getting set during modify 
 - is this true?  Taking a look at the log, I see this:

 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:024]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedFeature property. Its current value is 'Feature1'.
 Its new value: 'Feature2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:759]: Note: 1: 2727 2:
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedAction property. Its current value is '3'. 
 Its new
 value: '2'.
 MSI (c) (74:9C) [13:49:51:774]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Modifying 
 MsiSelectionTreeSelectedCost property. Its current value is '0'. Its 
 new
 value: '-976568'.

 That is from me running the installer to install Feature1 and 
 Feature2, then running it again and deselecting Feature2 in the 
 feature tree.  Based on those lines from the log, it looks like it 
 should know that Feature1's action state is set to 3...but I'm not 
 seeing that behavior.  When I have the condition just as Feature1=3, I hit 
 next and nothing happens.

 There is also the Installed state value, but that alone won't help.  
 If a feature is getting uninstalled (in which case !Feature1=3), it 
 would work if I could also check to see if the feature wasn't being 
 uninstalled
 (!Feature1=3 AND NOT Feature1=2), but that's not working either...  
 I've been googling around and seen people reference Installed, 
 MaintenanceMode=Modify, and WixUI_InstallMode = Change, but as far 
 as I can tell those are all on the product level, not a feature 
 level, which doesn't help.

 Is there some basic concept about install/action state that I'm missing?
  Or am I going about the modify logic all wrong?

 Thanks,
 Adam

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Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread John Cooper
I use a customize version of the setup.exe from 3.5 RTM.  Much less 
functionality than Burn, but it works and I get caching which is mainly what I 
was after.
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-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Bruce Cran; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

That isn't really what I meant, I was hoping to use the existing WiX authoring 
as the burn UI not just show the UI in my MSI but I think indirectly you have 
answered my question.

I guess I was hoping for something for free, the current BA UI doesn't look 
very nice if the WIX install is anything to go by I as I don't really write 
UI's I was look for a free lunch!

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk]
Sent: 25 October 2011 19:26
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Cc: Neil Sleightholm
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

On 25/10/2011 18:47, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Is it possible to use the standard WiX authored MSI dialogs as the UI for 
 Burn?

I asked about this yesterday: the BA that comes with Burn has a toggle to show 
the MSI UI, but it will still show its own interface too. You'd need to write 
your own BA to do this.

See the thread Burn: bootstrap a single MSI, not showing BA UI at all 
for Rob's answer :)

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Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On 25/10/2011 22:12, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I guess I was hoping for something for free, the current BA UI doesn't look 
 very nice if the WIX install is anything to go by I as I don't really write 
 UI's I was look for a free lunch!

Actually, the UI in the WiX installer is especially ugly - the UI that 
developers get via Burn is much nicer (without the RSS feed, a different 
layout etc.), if incomplete in places. For example there's no 
explanation that a reboot is required at the end, just Reboot and 
Close buttons.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to display the list of features to be installed

2011-10-25 Thread Wang, Miaohsi
Hi Peter,

Thank you for responding to my question. I have a few more specific questions 
for you.

1. For first time install, if I want to determine if a feature is selected for 
installation in a custom action, what is the best way to do the work? Should I 
use the ADDLOCAL value or MsiGetFeatureState?
2. In maintenance mode, what has been installed by the first time install will 
not be in the ADDLOCAL value, correct? If this true, how can we get the whole 
list of features that will be installed after the Modify install?
3. Is MsiSetFeatureState the best way to set feature install state in a custom 
action, or should I directly set the value of ADDLOCAL?

Thanks a lot,
Miaohsi

-Original Message-
From: Peter Shirtcliffe [mailto:pshirtcli...@sdl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:31 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to display the list of features to be installed

The first 4 properties under Feature Installation Options Properties would
be the place to start.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370905%28VS.85%29.aspx#feature_inst
allation_options_properties


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From: Wang, Miaohsi [mailto:miaohsi.w...@invensys.com] 
Sent: 24 October 2011 19:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] How to display the list of features to be installed

Dear All,

We would like to display before entering the Execute sequence the list of
features that the user selects to install, but do not know what the best
approach would be. Specifically, the implementation involves getting the
feature install status and organizing the features to install into a list. If
you have any idea, please let us know.

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Re: [WiX-users] Heat -generate

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 25-Oct-11 13:51, David L. Beckwith wrote:
 Basically, I have a legacy install program that I would like chained. 
 Specifically, it is Microsoft's Point of Service for dotNet. There is 
 no ClickOnce install, instead it is delivered as a self extracting 
 zip. It has a setup bootstapper with a scad full of files in different 
 directories including an MSI. I'm under the impression I can create a 
 container or payloadgroup that contains all these files. 

You want a package group (which contains the MSI and payload files). If 
you want, you can include the package group in a container (a single 
file that contains all the packages/payloads). But containers are just a 
delivery mechanism; they're not involved in how a package is installed.

 That is where heat came in. 

I don't think Heat has been updated to harvest files for a bundle. But 
it's not clear to me that you need it. The WiX binder will automatically 
harvest the loose files that an .msi refers to. So try a PackageGroup 
with an MsiPackage child that points to the POS .msi. Use 
PackageGroupRef in your Chain to include the package in the chain. If 
you want a container, use PackageGroupRef to include the POS package 
group into the container.

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Re: [WiX-users] Add/Remove Programs doesn't refresh sometimes

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 25-Oct-11 12:03, john.burak wrote:
 Okay. I wonder what the difference is between doing an uninstall via 
 the usual method and doing an uninstall via Change  Remove. 

ARP is in charge: You click Uninstall and if it gets a success code, it 
refreshes. Otherwise, it does nothing. It doesn't know that the user 
uninstalled from maintenance mode. From its perspective, the user 
clicked Change, so there's no reason to refresh the list.

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Re: [WiX-users] Burn UI

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 25-Oct-11 17:12, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 That isn't really what I meant, I was hoping to use the existing WiX 
 authoring as the burn UI

As in:

1. You want Burn to understand MSI UI?
2. You want Burn to mimic the WixUI dialog sets?

(Neither will happen in v3.6.g Just curious.)

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