[Xastir] xastir list server overly aggressive in DSBL use?

2008-05-02 Thread Jason Winningham
I just tried to send a message to the list from gmail, and the xastir  
list server bounced it based on some DSBL excuse.


Is the xastir list server being overly aggressive, is DSBL broken, or  
what?


-Jason

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[Xastir] message decay algorithm not playing well with javAPRSsrv / WIDEn-n dupe suppression?

2008-05-02 Thread Jason Winningham
There's a thread on the javAPRSsrv list about xastir's message retry  
decay algorithm not playing well with the duplicate supression done by  
both javAPRSsrv and the UIDIGI WIDEn-n.  The issue has to do with the  
retries being attempted before the duplicate suppression (10s on WIDEn- 
n and 30s on APRS-IS) will allow the duplicates to pass. There's a  
complaint that there is no way to adjust the retry timing in xastir.  
(I looked and didn't see a way, could have been pilot error on my part.)


Is anyone aware of this issue?  Should I post some of the thread here?

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Re: [Xastir] Terraserver problems with map registration

2007-11-28 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Tom Russo wrote:


but if there were a way to search the archives for this list


plug

site:lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir searchphrase

into google.

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir compiled static?

2007-11-19 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


A better recommendation would be to use the VMWare image inside
VMWare Player, assuming that the end-user machines are adequate to
run VMWare.  That way you can run Linux inside VMWare and use either
the Xastir-LSB version or a custom compiled version with all the
libraries you need.


If I'm not mistaken, the virtual machine that Tom built already has  
pretty much everything built in.


Another nice thing about the virtual machines is that you can install  
maps and configure them on the virtual machine, then distribute maps  
and all to your group.


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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-05 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote:


http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/


Ah, this is more like it.  At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot  
like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels).   
Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing,  
vector maps based on TIGER data.



Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to  
try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the  
mac.  Oh well, another one bites the dust.



I did notice this, though:  GPX, an XML schema for waypoint, route,  
and track exchange.  Could be interesting to include in xastir if  
XML support is included along the way.


http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp


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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-04 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:27 PM, William McKeehan wrote:


This would require Xastir having an http style
server that would serve up pages and would respond to certain  
queries with XML

code.


Nice idea - this would be a reasonably easy interface for add-on tools.

This makes me think of the Xastir version 2 database engine.   
Developers, any  thoughts on v2?


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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-04 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:


Maps, maps and more maps.


Ye gods, xastir already supports hundreds of formats.  If there's an  
area of xastir lacking, that ain't it. (:



We need the ability to use Google maps


Licensing issues could problematic, but I think someone is already  
keeping an eye on that.


I suspect something more like our own internet map server (or set of  
servers) could be useful, so that the free map data that's available  
could be stored in such a way it could be displayed nicely and  
consistently.  An added bonus to this method would be that those of  
us who operate mobile/internet-less could duplicate the mapserver  
with our personal dataset.


True cross-platform compatibility. Should it be developed in Python  
or Java?


I'd say neither, as scripting/interpreted languages (Python) don't  
always scale well (there's a _lot_ of code in xastir).  Python  
doesn't appeal to me for another reason: minor version differences  
are incompatible with each other (ImageMagick, anyone?).  I've got a  
reasonably complex unix enterprise configuration, and python is a  
serious pain. Java seems to be a pig, performance-wise.


I'd like to see xastir remain fairly lightweight for mobile/portable  
applications.


Something like Qt (licensing issues again!) would be more desirable,  
IMO.  wxWidgets claims to be a similar open source cross-platform  
development toolkit, but I know nothing about it (other than the only  
time I tried to install on Solaris it wouldn't build without a fight).


Having said all that, I'll say this: it should be left up to the  
developers, as they'll be writing the code.  As long as the code  
meets user specs it doesn't matter what the implementation details are.


Some of the modularization ideas we've seen kicked around on this  
list leads me to think maybe that  after the inital release of v2,   
the UI module could fork, with different versions for windows, X11,  
and (my personal favorite) Mac OS.



I don't agree with us (the users) setting deadlines.  Again, the  
developers are doing the work, for free, on their own precious time.   
I'm pretty grateful for what we get out of 'em, especially under  
those conditions. (:


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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-04 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote:

Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a  
specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't  
dictate that server and only that server can be used?


I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions  
(PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation.


queue Gerry

I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect  
the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than  
the rest of the xastir support packages.


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Re: [Xastir] using a USB-to-serial adapter (fwd)

2007-09-16 Thread Jason Winningham


On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


they use the FDTI chipset which is well supported in many
OS'es including Linux.


I haven't used the devices from Parallax, but I have settled on FTDI  
as my favorite USB/232 chipset.  I have several of these in various  
forms and they do work well with windows, Mac os X, and linux (can't  
remember if I've tried them with Solaris, but FTDI doesn't supply  
Solaris drivers).


I suspect (but don't know) that the Parallax device has a DB9 male  
connector, as that's the standard.


I have used this one from BG Micro.  It has a 6' cable, which could  
be good or bad depending on your needs.  $15:


http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=10405

If you need TTL level interface (roll your own USB interface for a  
TNC-X or something along those lines), SparkFun.com has breakout  
boards with a USB jack and through-holes for the TTL levels signals.   
They're not really cheap at $15, but you don't have to solder an SMT  
device.  The Ic is also available for $5 or so, and it requires  
minimal external components (not even a clock source).


There are also versions that include 4 serial ports on a single cable  
- either a box or an octopus type arrangement.  I haven't bought one  
of these yet, but plan to do so within the next few weeks.


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Re: [Xastir] xastir.org mailserver problem? (was: What's with the bullseye?)

2007-09-04 Thread Jason Winningham



X-Spam-Score: 7.59 (***) DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS



FYI, the original message and Curt's reply went into my spam bucket.   
SpamAssassin apparently doesn't like the list server anymore.


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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-08-28 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:56 AM, William McKeehan wrote:


Has anyone thought about adding a scripting capability within Xastir?


We're on unix, so it's already there - it's called perl. (:

An example of the type of thing that I'm thinking about would be  
keeping track
of how many runners have pasted a particular point. An Xastir  
station at that
particular point would execute this script which would prompt for a  
number.
The user would enter a number and the script/Xastir would handle  
the rest. The
rest could be creating and sending a message to the NCS station  
with the
updated information or it could be creating an object using this  
information.


I could see this trivially handled in a perl script.  If there are  
electronic methods for counting, it would be easy to generate reports  
automatically (maybe as some sort of signpost object, with the number  
being the # of runners who have passed?)



Am I off my rocker or is this an idea worth considering?


I've got perl scripts that both generate and consume APRS data using  
xastir's server port.  I need to update the generate scripts to use  
xastir's UDP client program to make gating to RF easier.


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Re: [Xastir] Garmin Rino being dropped?

2007-08-22 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote:

What is the status of the new generation of trackers ( Tracker2, I  
think?).  As I understand, the innovation is that they are  
digipeaters as well.  Correct?


Scott has a couple.  The T2, currently in beta, seems to be very near  
production status.  It is a full-up TNC with digpeat capability, has  
a tracker in it, and can plot received stations on a mapping GPS.   
The OT+ does some decoding in software.  It's not as good at decode  
as the T2, but it's better than nothing.


Byon has some new TinyTrack stuff (the TT4 sounds comparable to the OT 
+, IIRC), but I don't know much about them.  Byon's stuff is all  
closed source.  Scott's OpenTracker series is open source, so Scott  
gets my money.


For SAR GPS tracking, on each field searcher, we would still need a  
radio, a tracker, and a mapping GPS.  Is that correct?


That depends on your needs.  If all you need is for someone at the  
ICP to know where the teams are, you can get by with a dumb tracker  
(radio/tracker/GPS engine).  If you want the teams to know where the  
other teams and other resources are, they'll need decode and mapping  
capability (D7 or Tracker 2 and mapping GPS).


Is there any company that anyone knows of that is working on a unit  
with the radio/gps/tracker that will work on the APRS network --  
aka, a Rino for Ham?


Nothing I've heard of.

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Re: [Xastir] standard err

2007-08-22 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:18 PM, vic wrote:

Can the output from xastir to the terminal be stopped somehow with  
a command or command string when xastir is started with the   
option to put it into the background??


xastir 2/dev/null 

which means redirect file descriptor 2 aka stderr to the file  
specified.


to redirect output and stderr,

xastir /dev/null 21 

which means redirect file descriptor 1 to the file specified, then  
redirect file descriptor 2 to the same place.


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Re: [Xastir] Display levels with GNIS files

2007-08-22 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Carver wrote:


Playing around with the GNIS files, I've filtered them
down a bit so that I'm not swamped with 30,000 records
but I wanted to know what exactly is controlling
whether a GNIS feature displays or doesn't at a
particular zoom level.



It's hard coded.

I have considered converting my GNIS files to shapelib just so I  
could create a dbfawk to control them.


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Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-13 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 10, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Bernard Michael Tyers wrote:



Can I ask how you created/plotted the grey dotted rectangular box on
the map? I am guessing its the search area of that particular
aircraft?


That is the position ambiguity for that APRS station, which is in  
fact an aircraft.  For whatever reason this person chose to transmit  
only about 3 or 4 digits of position data which leaves a pretty large  
area of uncertainty.  This box with a dotted outline is xastir's way  
of telling you it's somewhere inside this box.  IIRC, station -  
filter display - display position ambiguity controls the display of  
this box.


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Re: [Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?

2007-08-09 Thread Jason Winningham
wow - replicated on the first try.  100% repeatable on my iMac, OS X  
10.4.10, xastir 1.9.1, CVS as of a few days ago.


no idea if it's an xastir thing, or an os X X11 thing.

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Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

2007-08-09 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote:


 but still leaves
me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can  
adjust the
fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have  
a color

scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc.

Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts?



That's for you to decide after you try it. (:

The shapefiles you downloaded are a bit complex, but there are  
already dbfawks in the xastir distribution to deal with them (in /usr/ 
local/share/xastir/config, I think).  You can modify those dbfawks to  
try and achieve the look you want.


One thing that you'll probably find missing is a selection of  
linestyles - xastir's is pretty limited.  IIRC you've got solid lines  
and dashed lines.  If you're looking for a wide gray line with black  
borders, you're out of luck.


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Re: [Xastir] .xbm done for DENSE_FOG plus other info...

2007-08-06 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 6, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Eric H Christensen wrote:

Shouldn't there be a way to prioritize them?  For example, the  
Thunderstorm Warning should be trumped by the Tornado Warning.


The current xbm's that I put together would stack - the text was  
placed so that text from one wouldn't go on top of text from another,  
in the case of multiples.  There were some exceptions, I think -  
maybe red flag (a fire type warning, IIRC) would overlay winter_wx or  
winter storm if they happen to occur at the same time.


If you want to extend that design, it may be time to add a third line  
and extend the dithering on the existing files, just to keep  
everything consistent.


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Re: [Xastir] Help! with Linux

2007-08-03 Thread Jason Winningham


On Aug 3, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote:

OK... I made a really dumb move.  I cleaned up and tossed the  
installation notes. On that was the Administrators password.


Is there anyway to recover it?
Is there anyway to reset it?


OK, this is rough because I'm not much of a linux guy (Solaris is my  
day job) and I haven't done SuSE at allm but this should be close.


easy way: if you put your user account in the sudoers file, do this:

sudo passwd root

it will ask for your password, then it should ask for a new root  
password (twice).


Hard way:

boot from a LiveCD, mount the hard drive, edit /etc/shadow as  
follows: on the line that begins root: delete all that garbage (the  
encrypted password) between the first and second colons.  Reboot the  
system and root will have no password.



If I reload Linux (openSUSE), will that take care of it?


well yeah, but so will buying a new computer. (:

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Re: [Xastir] Questions about Xastir running under VMplayer

2007-08-02 Thread Jason Winningham


On On Aug 2, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote:



_*The downside is that VMplayer only allows for one serial port.*_


This is wrong.  I've used two, one for the radio and one for the GPS.

The xastir vm may only have one serial port _configured_ out of the  
box (er, zip file?), but it's certainly capable of more.


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Re: [Xastir] libgeotiff (Mac OS X)

2007-07-24 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Chip G. wrote:



/usr/bin/ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/local/lib/ 
libgeotiff.a is out of date; rerun ranlib


In this case the error message tells you what to do (but it isn't all  
that clear if you haven't heard of the ranlib command).


sudo ranlib /usr/local/lib/libgeotiff.a

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Re: [Xastir] Success with shapefiles!!!

2007-07-19 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 19, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote:


Does anyone know, can I change colors and symbols and show labels now,


You are now ready for the wonderful world of dbfawk writing.  Wiki  
instructions at


http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:DBFAWK

The original instructions I used:

http://www.swcp.com/~russo/shape_web/tutorial.html

... and don't forget to look in /usr/local/share/xastir/config for  
examples.


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Re: Spam:*****, Re: [Xastir] Mac: odd process problem

2007-07-08 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Chip G. wrote:


 is it certain to he the driver?


Nope.  I was getting pretty wound up trying to solve a similar  
problem.  It eventually occurred to me that my faithful Keyspan  
device might actually be dead.  It was.


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Re: [Xastir] A success report and an inquiry

2007-07-06 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 6, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


Or create new GNIS files somehow?



Well, you're one of the developers, so you tell me if it makes more  
sense to:


- create new GNIS files in the old format with new data (assuming  
that's possible)


- re-code so that xastir understands the new GNIS format

- convert the GNIS files to shapefiles, and abandon the GNIS support  
built into xastir



That last one makes a certain amount of sense to me (a non-developer)  
since shapelib support has been integrated with the standard  
distribution.


I can't even remember now what the problem with the GNIS files were;  
the format changed, but did it change so that they are no longer useful?


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Re: [Xastir] New geocode database files available at aprs.tamu.edu

2007-07-06 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Reuven Z Gevaryahu wrote:

I had tried doing this a few months back, and noticed that the  
geocoder

scripts gave many errors,


There were some errors (unexpected version code) that I think were  
related to having a newer version of the TIGER data than the script  
was written for.  There were a very few other errors, but the data  
seemed OK.  If anyone finds a problem, post a message here and we'll  
have a look.


Did you have to make any changes to the geocoder source code to run  
these?


Not the source.  I did make a small change to a script when running  
the entire USA in one file; the way the script was written there was  
a single command that was over 17kb long, and for some reason linux  
had a problem with it. |:  Other than that, no changes.


I should also note that Tom did all the hard part on this and the  
TIGER shapefile maps; all I did was take advantage of a fat pipe and  
some idle machines. (:


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Re: [Xastir] Mac: odd process problem

2007-07-03 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Curt Mills wrote:


Note:  I'm not a Mac user, but _am_ a Unix and Linux user/SysAdmin,


me too...


so I'm not sure how fragile a Mac is these days.  I would think not
very fragile...


nope, not at all.  I personally rank it just below solaris and above  
linux in reliability.  I just took an X-serve down after 4 years of  
reliable service.  The hardware finally flaked out, so I had to put  
it down.


Tom brought up a good point, though.  If you are using USB/rs232  
adapters, please list which one, especially the chipset if you can  
(list the device special file name if all else fails; sometimes  
that's a clue).


The only serious problems I've ever had at the mac OS level when  
using xastir were related to the driver for a usb/232 adapter.


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Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?

2007-07-01 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 1, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

I have just now created a vertical 1/2 wave dipole. I tune it with  
an MFJ box.


A roll-up J-pole is slightly more complex to build (but not much!)  
and doesn't need a tuner.  A J-pole has noticeably more gain than a  
dipole, too.


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Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?

2007-07-01 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jul 1, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Ray Wells wrote:

Given that a J-pole is only a dipole with an alternative feed  
method (i.e. at the end rather than the centre), I have to wonder  
where this gain comes from.



beats me, but when we fly 'em on the balloons, the J-pole has a  
better range.  Could be that the lack of a balun isn't so bad with a  
J-pole than with a dipole.  Could be some other construction issue, too.


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Re: [Xastir] Newbee question re: Garmin Rino / Cygwin / Xastir and SAR

2007-06-26 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote:

Garmin Rinos within 5 miles of the search incident command would be  
a workable alternative.


This seems pretty optimistic.  I don't know about the Rinos, but in  
my very limited experience with FRS radios 5mi seems to be a bit much  
for them, unless one is on a mountain and has a straight shot to the  
other.  I would think that the data range would be even less than the  
voice range.


I don't know about Cygwin support for GPSman (again, haven't tried  
that myself), but if Cygwin doesn't work, using the virtual machine  
with VMware player will work.  The VM is noticeably faster, in my  
experience, than Cygwin.



As for a more optimum solution, if the units in the field don't need  
to track other units, a basic HT with an opentracker and GPS would do  
nicely.  Buying new, one could put these together for probably $225 -  
$250 each.


If the units in the field _do_ need to track the others, currently  
the optimum solution is the Kenwood D7 + a mapping GPS.  A bonus in  
using the D7 is that it's a dual band radio, so it could be used for  
voice communications as well as data.  This is a $500+ solution.   
There is a new Opentracker in the works that would do it cheaper, but  
it's not in production yet.


Of course, all these ham radio solutions assume everyone is licensed  
and all that good stuff.  Trackers can be put together on other  
bands, but if the county's radio infrastructure is already limited  
there probably isn't anything left lying around for conversion to  
trackers.


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Re: [Xastir] System cost options

2007-06-26 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jun 26, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote:

Is the general consensus  that I should wait until we can afford  
the Kenwood / GPS unit system or go now with one of the Rino options.


That sort of depends on your situation: is something better than  
nothing?  Sure the Rino FRS doesn't have the range that a 5 watt D7  
has, but if that's all you can afford and you _really_ need something...


Also, you don't have to do either/or.  If your ICP station has an  
APRS rig and a Rino, xastir will happily display data from both  
networks, and I'm pretty sure it can relay the Rino data to the APRS  
network (but not vice-versa).



Another con to the D7 is the poor battery that comes from the  
factory.  Not a show stopper, but pretty disappointing.


I personally would ask for money for the D7 configuration.  If they  
give you less, go from there.  With the amount of money that's  
hemorrhaging from Homeland Security, surely there's some dollars for  
emergency comms somewhere...


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Re: [Xastir] Maps

2007-06-25 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jun 25, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

If your ECW images are 24-bit color, you'll also have to convert to  
8-bit

for geotiff (because nobody's written the 24-bit geotiff code yet).



I've done that for some color DOQQs in my area.

Just wondering if there would be a performance hit going from 8 bit  
to 24 bit images if someone were to implement support for 24 bit  
geotiffs?


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Re: [Xastir] Fetching a trail

2007-06-17 Thread Jason Winningham


On Jun 17, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Earl Needham wrote:

Ah -- maybe I misunderstood.  I thought the question was  
whether I had moved while downloading the track.  The track should  
have actually shown my movement of perhaps 2000 miles.


well, a download only gets packets that made it to an Igate, but I  
would think that at least some of them would have gotten in on a 2000  
mile trip.  Yep, I got a lot of packets when I download a trail for  
KD5XB-11.  I see nothing for KD5XB, though.


I'm not sure how a download trail works when it's the current  
stations trail you are downloading.  I've never tried it, but your  
results indicate xastir doesn't want to do it.


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Re: [Xastir] I'm about to ask some dumb questions...

2007-05-23 Thread Jason Winningham


On May 23, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:


I can't seem to get Xastir
to transmit my position.  I'm runnign without a TNC, via TCP/IP


all of the following must be true:

- interface configuration must allow transmitting
- IS interface must have correct password (generated with callpass)
- interface - disable transmit: ALL must be cleared
- interface - disable transmit: My Position must be cleared


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Re: [Xastir] CAD object transmissions?

2007-05-16 Thread Jason Winningham


On May 16, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Craig Anderson wrote:


That APRS channel
could be co-resident with a TCP/IP over AX.25 KISS
channel that I suppose could really be carrying the
CAD objects.


TCP/IP is a connected mode point to point protocol, not really  
suitable for one-to-many communications.




Functionally, I would like to have everyone be able
to see the same picture and, in effect, treat the Xastir
map as a shared blackboard.


this is pretty much what APRS is already


A CAD object with a
small text string attached, even if that text string is only
accessible by bringing up the Station Info on the object.


this is called the status text, an optional part of every position  
report.


There is also a messaging system with unicast, multicast and  
broadcast capability.



We plan on running most of our frequencies other
than 144.39 to reduce the clutter of all the other
stations and avoid the overwhelming congestion
of way too many digipeaters in some areas.


There's something to be said for maximizing bandwidth for your  
application, but there's also something to be said for taking  
advantage of the existing infrastructure.


Of course, you can do both - I have operated APRS on three different  
frequencies feeding a single instance of xastir; it's an easy way to  
increase available bandwidth.



The ability to send out a cancel packet to remove
a CAD object would be good.


it's already there - right click on the object in xastir to access  
the capability.



I, myself, am not concerned about interoperability
with other programs


well, APRS is _supposed_ to be a standard so that everyone can shoot  
at the same target.



I'm imagining a HAZMAT incident in a town and the
EOC starts marking off road closures, command posts,
decon areas, shelters, and down-wind evacuation areas.
Everyone can see the whole picture, just like a status
board.  And others can add new problems to the board.


That's the basic idea behind APRS.

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[Xastir] interface failures, part 2

2007-05-05 Thread Jason Winningham

good morning/afternoon/evening all,

I'm still dealing with xastir losing the serial port at times. (a  
reminder of my issue, the actual fault is with USB problems, not with  
xastir.)


I think maybe xastir could be a bit smarter about recovery, and an  
automatic retry for devices (like server ports) would be useful. Here  
is my scenario:


- multiple USB/rs232 devices are attached to a laptop for GPS, TNC, etc.

- laptop goes to sleep (shutting down USB in the process), USB cable  
gets unplugged, Belkin USB hub dies, etc.


- xastir's connection to /dev/tty.whatever fails; this is noted, but  
no further action is taken by xastir


- laptop wakes up/USB cable gets plugged back in, no devices working  
with xastir.


- try to manually restart interface, xastir refuses to open /dev/ 
tty.whatever because someone has a lock file on it.


- manually rm the lock files, then start the interface in xastir.  
normal operation resumes (until the next time)



I think there are two issues with xastir here:

1 - xastir fails to recognize that _it_ created the lock file, so  
it's OK to remove it and restart the interface like I asked.  My  
feeling is this is a bug.


2 - it would be nice if I could tell xastir to automatically retry  
opening the device special file if it errors out, just like we do  
with server connections.  I guess this is a feature request.



Curt, I didn't try the error message patches you sent yet because I  
had a balloon flight and not enough time.  Are those in the latest  
CVS, or should I go ahead and patch them in?


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Re: [Xastir] more wiki spam

2007-05-02 Thread Jason Winningham


On May 1, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

The main page should probably have at least a confirm-by-email  
registration

process and require registration for commenting.


Unfortunately the vandals have that automated, too...

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Re: [Xastir] Dayton Hamvention Xastir help

2007-05-01 Thread Jason Winningham
Doesn't Dana (N1OZF?) have a double-clickable install for Mac OS?   
It's an older version (1.8.0 or thereabouts) but it's fine for trying  
out xastir.


I suggest bringing questions to the entire list - even if one person  
is primarily answering, it gives others a chance to point out things  
that the responder may have forgotten, and to take up the slack if  
someone can't answer for a while (pesky jobs tend to get in the way  
of the important stuff sometimes).


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[Xastir] more wiki spam

2007-05-01 Thread Jason Winningham
anyone noticed the comments under stable version ... is out on  
www.xastir.org? lotsa wikispam.


http://www.xastir.org/article.php?story=20061103223112116#comments

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[Xastir] heard stations as waypoints to GPS?

2007-04-30 Thread Jason Winningham
Does xastir send waypoints corresponding to heard stations to an  
attached GPS like the D7/D700 do?


I nearly always use xastir with a GPS engine or without a GPS, so I  
can't remember...


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Re: [Xastir] Serial GPS support in Xastir built from Darwin Ports?

2007-04-27 Thread Jason Winningham


On Apr 27, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Bernard Michael Tyers wrote:




Ok, so I connected my GPS, found it was sdevice:

/dev/tty.KeySerial1

Enabled it in Interfaces menu, and Xastir hung saying waiting for
GPS. So I guess I gotta go build gpsd?!



no, just put the GPS on that port and configure a GPS interface for  
xastir.  xastir doesn't magically find a GPS just like it doesn't  
magically find a TNC - you've got to set it up.


AFAIK the only reason to use GPSd is so you can share the GPS among  
multiple applications.


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Re: [Xastir] Looking for GNIS files

2007-04-25 Thread Jason Winningham


On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:52 AM, gdw wrote:

Does anyone by chance have the older gnis files for SC, NC and GA?   
I am

setting up a machine for the Columbia, SC Weather Service and have
discovered that the current gnis files from the .gov site don't work.


those three are at

http://www.eng.uah.edu/pub/xastir

or

ftp://ftp.eng.uah.edu/pub/xastir


Are the old ones something we should make available, maybe on Gerry's  
server?  I've got room for them on mine, but if we're keeping maps at  
Gerry's, might as well put them all in the same place?


I have a set of gnis files, but I may have edited the historical  
places out of them in a de-cluttering effort.  I don't have all  
the .map files.


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Re: [Xastir] Dbfawk font_size

2007-04-17 Thread Jason Winningham


On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Troy M. Campbell wrote:

I'd like to display the label of a county (for example) depending  
on the

zoom level.



Is there a way to do this?   I can't figure out the expression for it.


I wanted to display borders in a different line style based on zoom  
level, but couldn't figure out a way to do it.  I ended up playing  
some games with symbolic links (to make it appear that there were two  
different copies of the same map) and using display levels and  
different dbfawks to get it done.  Pretty hokey, but if you _really_  
want it...


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Re: [Xastir] Configuration of operation not clear

2007-04-12 Thread Jason Winningham
If I remember correctly, if your TNC isn't KISS, xastir can't use it  
to digipeat.  Xastir's digi function is a bit limited, and not really  
intended to take the place of a full-up digipeater.


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Re: [Xastir] Tiger map data?

2007-04-11 Thread Jason Winningham


On Apr 11, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


I haven't tried the latest Shapefile downloads so I don't know if
the distributed dbfawk files work properly with them.  Who's tried
this?


I think I have.  The latest use the FIPS code instead of county for  
the filename, right?


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[Xastir] improved error messages for interface failures?

2007-04-09 Thread Jason Winningham
Had a few problems with my APRS rig on this weekend's balloon chase.   
All have been attributed to pilot error and yet another faulty Belkin  
USB hub (which I guess could also be considered pilot error, since  
it's the third time I've been bitten by a Belkin hub, but we won't go  
there).


Xastir didn't do a lot to help me troubleshoot, though.  I goofed  
entering the device special file name for the TNC serial port, but  
all I got was ERROR in the interface status and the standard error  
opening interface X: hard fail on the tty.


Could we maybe add at least errno, or even better the message  
associated with errno, when something fails?  A popup would be nice,  
but I could certainly live with it getting to the tty.


I'm posting here first before filing a feature request in case the  
information is already there and I'm overlooking it.


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Re: [Xastir] KPC-3Plus

2007-04-03 Thread Jason Winningham


On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Peter Maxfield wrote:


Is /dev/ttyS3 the equivalent of com4?


only if it's a real com port.  For a USB device, look at /dev/ 
ttyUSBx, where x is 0 for the first rs232/usb device enumerated, 1  
for the second, etc.


I'm assuming you are running linux native and aren't talking about  
the virtual machine configuration.


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Re: [Xastir] Stable release plus version numbering

2007-03-29 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 29, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


This might muck with the TOCALL a bit.  Right now we're sending
APX185.  We'd need to send APX110 which would appear to be going
backwards in our revisions.


do it in hex?

APX1A0

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Re: [Xastir] TIGER/Line files --- End of an Era

2007-03-27 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Troy M. Campbell wrote:


I _could_ get a file with population by FIPS code
and merge it into a GNIS set using XASTIR's current file format,



If you're gonna do that, why not just make it a shapefile and create  
a dbfawk, so the sufficiently interested user can control the display  
levels?


I've been threatening to do that to the GNIS data, but haven't gotten  
around to it...


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Re: [Xastir] TIGER/Line files --- End of an Era

2007-03-27 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:07 AM, Jason Winningham wrote:


 I think in the contrib directory



That was vague; I should have said in the _shapelib_ contrib  
directory (as opposed to the xastir contrib directory).


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Re: [Xastir] xastir VM woes

2007-03-13 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:27 PM, I wrote:

I'm having issues running xastir in a VMware vm that I suspect are  
virtual machine-host machine issues.


I've got everything loaded and going, including handing control of  
a USB/rs232 adapter to the guest OS.  The extremely strange (and  
frustrating) thing is that the guest machine can write to the D7  
over the usb/rs232 adapter, but data from the D7 never gets back to  
xastir.  I can turn off the vm and fire up hyperterm and talk back  
and forth just fine, so it's not a cabling or hardware issue.



Just in case someone else runs up on this, I applied this trick:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/ 
HowTo:VMware#Working_around_broken_autodetection_of_serial_ports


and it solved my problems.  The systems in question are two Dell  
laptops with built-in modems and two different (Keyspan and Prolific)  
USB/rs232 adapters, both exhibiting the same broken behavior before  
applying the workaround.


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[Xastir] making big shapefiles

2007-03-09 Thread Jason Winningham
I've been thinking about ways to simplify map configuration, and an  
idea that just hit me was to combine TIGER shapefiles from multiple  
counties to make one huge shapefile, reducing the set to three or  
four per state.  I know I'm gonna take a hit the first time I read a  
big shapefile, but rtree should save me after that first one.


Questions for the group:  what are the reasons not to do this?  I'm  
sure there are some, but I can't think of any other than the one I  
mentioned.


Can I configure rtree's cache timeout value?  I know there's not a  
slider on the timer menu and I would probably need to hack the  
source.  Other than the obvious permanent memory utilization, is  
there any reason I shouldn't make rtree's cache live forever?


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[Xastir] xastir VM woes

2007-03-09 Thread Jason Winningham
I'm having issues running xastir in a VMware vm that I suspect are  
virtual machine-host machine issues.


I've got everything loaded and going, including handing control of a  
USB/rs232 adapter to the guest OS.  The extremely strange (and  
frustrating) thing is that the guest machine can write to the D7 over  
the usb/rs232 adapter, but data from the D7 never gets back to  
xastir.  I can turn off the vm and fire up hyperterm and talk back  
and forth just fine, so it's not a cabling or hardware issue.   
There's nothing obvious in the vmware.txt log file, but it's pretty  
cryptic anyway. |:


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Re: [Xastir] AX25 interfacing

2007-03-04 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Stephen Brown Jr wrote:


 I also looked at the permissions
for the pty port:

crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 2, 0 2007-02-24 19:51 /dev/ptyp0



I think these things come in pairs - ptypX and ttypX.  If it's a  
permission problem, you may need to check/change both.


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Re: [Xastir] Radar and Tigermaps

2007-03-01 Thread Jason Winningham


On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:27 AM, William M. Bickley wrote:

I can see either a weather radar or a Tigermap just fine, but I  
can't figure
out how to display both at the same time.  When I choose both, I  
only see

the Tigermap.  What's the trick?


map - map chooser - properties

make sure the radar is on a higher layer than the TIGER map.

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Re: [Xastir] APRStt

2007-02-28 Thread Jason Winningham


On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:42 PM, William McKeehan wrote:

I
think Bob may have a good idea with the APRStt thing. I can see  
several
instances where it would be nice to have someone with an HT enter  
some data

quickly just by entering touch tones.


The biggest hitch I see is that you're typing blind (a major problem  
for someone of my typing skills), and need some sort of feedback to  
verify you entered the data correctly.  I think for it to be useful  
the speech synthesis component is pretty much mandatory.  The bar  
code scanner (or a simple device with a 16-key keypad and an LCD)  
would be more likely to get good data entered.



Has anyone considered putting APRStt into Xastir?


I'd think that would be better as a separate application, taking  
advantage of xastir's server port to display/digi/gate reports.   
Adding code for audio decoding would be complex and not very  
portable, assuming you could get an xastir developer to take it on.


What's the user interface component, besides a table mapping  
positions and object/station names to numeric shortcuts?  Bob's web  
page wasn't terribly clear about all that.


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Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2006 files as shapefiles

2007-02-19 Thread Jason Winningham
I just downloaded the lot of 'em (I2 between me and Gerry :) and took  
a quick look.


Most files extract into a subdirectory called xlate.  A few extract  
into the current directory.


Files have the same signature, so existing dbfawks work.

FIPS coded filenames aren't too friendly, but the zip files are named  
by state.


Polygons are not there.

There are a few minor changes in my neighborhood (literally) that  
appear to be corrections; I'll have to put a GPS trail down to be  
sure.  I have no idea about the quality of data overall.


I'd recommend changing the filenames to include the state and county  
and eliminating that xlate subdirectory, and the polygons sure are  
nice to have around.


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Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2006 files as shapefiles

2007-02-19 Thread Jason Winningham


On Feb 19, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Jason Winningham wrote:


 (except for the missing polygons).


I should clarify: the polygon data is generated via a different  
method, and results in a separate shapelib.  Again, there is nothing  
wrong with the shapefiles you generated.


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Re: [Xastir] Slightly OT: Three-headed BigBox on Fedora 6

2007-02-05 Thread Jason Winningham
If y'all keep talking I'm gonna have to learn how to do a multihead  
sunray configuration just so I can put 30 of 'em on one virtual X  
display.  Let's see, 6 monitors wide by 5 tall running at 1900x1200  
resolution.  What would xastir look like at 11400 x 6000 resolution?


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir and TCP/IP over AX.25 coexistence?

2007-02-05 Thread Jason Winningham


On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Craig Anderson wrote:


I want to be
able to pick up the APRS packets at those hill-top
radios but display them back in the EOC.


If you're talking about an RF solution, you just described a digi...


What should run on the hill-top computer?  Is there
a simple forwarding program?  I will have TCP/IP
connections from the EOC to the hill-top computers.


run xastir, enable the server port, then configure your APRS station  
at the EOC to connect to the two hilltop xastir servers.


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Re: [Xastir] Bluetooth connection to D700!

2007-02-03 Thread Jason Winningham


On Feb 3, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

This is by no means an inexpensive alternative to a USB-Serial  
dongle,


No kidding.  $60 per serial connection, plus one for your laptop if  
it isn't built in.


What I can't figure out is why a bluetooth adapter for the computer  
can be had for $7, but the RS232 end costs $60.  I know economies of  
scale are involved, but come on!


If I get my serial mux thing worked out, I can put a single bluetooth/ 
232 module in there and eliminate the cable to the laptop, anyway.   
Maybe that's my incentive to get moving on that project.



The nifty thing about this is that if you have an application for  
which the
BlueLync's signal levels aren't good enough, you could always throw  
together

a quick adapter using a MAX232 IC to get true RS232 signal levels.


I've got a Tracker2 beta unit, and I fried two of the 2n7000  
transistors (same as used on the BlueLync serial) with no effort and  
in a very short time, and I'd advise going the MAX232 route if you  
need for it to be reliable.  I've retrofitted one to my Tracker2.


On the subject of D700 serial connections, I put a DB9-RJ45 adapter  
on my radio and leave it on all the time.  Not only is this an easy  
way to get around the gender issue (Kenwood used the wrong gender on  
the radio), but it's easy to grab a CAT5 cable of the appropriate  
length and click it in place, without fumbling around under the back  
seat trying to find the screws to secure the DB9.


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir OS X

2007-01-07 Thread Jason Winningham
If you're talking about  the online TIGERmaps, the TIGER server  
frequently gets bogged down.  You may want to try increasing the  
timeout (which I think is located in the .geo file).


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Re: [Xastir] non-kernel mkiss app usefulness?

2006-12-26 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:14 AM, Carl Makin wrote:

Source code to a linux mkiss daemon that should be pretty easy to  
make work without the linux ax25 code is reachable via the  
radio.linux.org.au site;


http://radio.linux.org.au/pkgdetail.phtml? 
sectpat=Allordpat=descpat=pkgid=93


Thanks.  This looks like it does the job, and does it more simply  
that I would have expected.  It's going to need a bit of work to  
compile on OS X.



Here's a different solution for those who, like me, need to hook up a  
bunch of rs232 devices without much fuss. I stumbled across this:


http://www.cooldrives.com/4rstousbadwm.html

I have not bought one, but it looks like it meets my needs:  4 rs232  
ports, one box, on cable back to computer (USB, not rs232), uses the  
FTDI chipset (drivers work on windows, linux, mac os x) and in  
addition can supply external power to the DB9 connector (not sure of  
the details on that one).


Yeah, it's $90, but it's four usb/rs232 adapters plus a usb hub in  
one box, so the price is in line with the solution I've got now.   
Plus it's a nice metal box with mounting tabs and power distribution  
over DB9. If I hadn't already spent close to $100 on various usb/ 
rs232 adapters I'd already have one on the way.


If anyone actually has one of these, please let me know how it performs.

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Re: [Xastir] mac osx 10.4.8 Xastir 1.8.5 working here, mostly.

2006-12-21 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:27 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

The one that comes with FreeBSD is, I believe, version 1.8.5 or  
thereabouts.

My bet is that Mac OS X's is probably of a similar vintage.


sounds right, could be even older.  db.h says

*  @(#)db.h8.7 (Berkeley) 6/16/94
* $FreeBSD: src/include/db.h,v 1.5 2002/03/26 01:35:05 bde Exp $


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Re: [Xastir] mac osx 10.4.8 Xastir 1.8.5 working here, mostly.

2006-12-20 Thread Jason Winningham
Just out of curiosity, is there some reason we're not using the DB  
that comes with Mac OS X?


Curt, if you need an account on an OS X machine I can probably  
arrange it (I assume you can SSH in and to the X11 forwarding thing).


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download

2006-12-19 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:30 PM, James Ewen wrote:


Jason's server rocks! I was able to pull down the file at an average
of 3.5 Mbps, with peaks to 4.5 Mbps. If I were on a fast connection, I
wonder what I could have done!


Glad to hear it - I can't remember the last time I heard something 
positive about out network. |:


In the interest if full disclosure, I'm at a .edu and all the students 
have gone home for break.  Normally I have to share the bandwidth with 
several thousand students who are constantly downloading movies and 
music (or so the network people would have us believe. :)


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Re: [Xastir] Reporting configure report

2006-12-18 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Tom Russo wrote:


Time to turn it on by default?


yep.  I've been ready for a while now.

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Re: [Xastir] Need Feedback: CVS, plus LSB Xastir info

2006-12-15 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


Where is GraphicsMagick installed on that system?  In particular
what are the full paths to these files?


on Mac OS X, depends on if fink, darwinports, or standard install is  
used.  The base dir will be one of


/sw
/opt
/usr/local

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Re: [Xastir] Re: Wind Gusts

2006-12-15 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


It also sounds like the values requested by NOAA are different than
the APRS spec dictates we transmit.


In this case, should we lobby to have the APRS spec changed to meet  
NOAA standards?


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Re: [Xastir] [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware (fwd)

2006-12-13 Thread Jason Winningham
Is this different than the python scripts, whose output we've been  
using for a few years now?


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Re: [Xastir] [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware (fwd)

2006-12-13 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Tom Russo wrote:

Having never used TGR2SHP, I don't know if there's a clear  
advantage to
switching tools.  The process is sufficiently complex that there  
are things
that are missed by the ogr2ogr/Xastir-tigerpoly.py method, so maybe  
there

is a good reason to switch.


The only thing that bothers me about the current polygons is when  
there are many adjacent polygons that define a single area.  This  
results in a slightly ugly polygon and a serious mess with the labels.


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Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..

2006-11-19 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 19, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Curt Mills wrote:


Unfortunately I think most of the trackers out there
aren't set up to transmit more often than once per minute using
timeslotting.


I fly opentrackers on balloons with timeslotting and intervals of 20s  
or 30s.  Works just fine.


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Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..

2006-11-18 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 18, 2006, at 5:52 PM, James Ewen wrote:

 I'm not sure if the OpenTracker is able to sync to the GPS time  
embedded in the NMEA strings or not.


it does.  A timeslot every other second is no sweat.  If your packets  
and TXdelay are short you can probably get one a second.


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Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..

2006-11-18 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Jeff Mohler wrote:


Not sure what to do with timing yet, most of the time we'll have no
more than 5 vehicles to track, at Mid Ohio I could have up to 12-15.
I'll have to play with the options in the opentracker on the sending
side, to see how I can most intelligently deal with near-real-time
updates.  When in action, 30s is far too slow, but I dont see how 5
vehicles could xmit updates every 5 seconds without lots of
collisions.


Use another frequency - let odd vehicles use freq A and even vehicles  
use freq B.  The xastir station has a receiver/TNC on each frequency.


With frequent updates, timeslotting is your friend.

Now that I think about it, if you're updating every few seconds there  
may be a bit of latency in xastir's display processing.


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Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows

2006-11-12 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


Anyone tried it on MacOSX yet?


OK, second try is going better after RTFM.  Did a cvs -d, got the  
source code but the same results from configure.  Ran bootstrap.sh  
before running configure and it was happier.  configure made the  
right noises, compile is running now.  I'm late for a balloon chase;  
I'll have to run it when I get back.


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Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows

2006-11-11 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote:


Anyone tried it on MacOSX yet?


Yep, just CVSed the latest.  no joy.

Started with a clean /usr/local, installed openmotif, pcre and proj.

imac:/usr/local/source/xastir jdw$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c




checking shapefil.h usability... no
checking shapefil.h presence... no
checking for shapefil.h... no
checking libshp/shapefil.h usability... no
checking libshp/shapefil.h presence... no
checking for libshp/shapefil.h... no
configure: WARNING: ***
configure: WARNING: Your system does not have shapelib installed.  Using
configure: WARNING: an internal version, which will lead to larger  
executable
configure: WARNING:  file size.  To eliminate this warning, install  
shapelib on your system.


.

config.status: creating src/shapelib/Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/shapelib/Makefile.in
imac:/usr/local/source/xastir jdw$


In the interest if full disclosure, I had a working install,  
everything installed in /usr/local.  I just renamed /usr/local and  
started a new one for this test.  This could have resulted in  
something abnormal, but I don't think so.


config.log is attached for your viewing pleasure.

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Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows

2006-11-11 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 11, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Jason Winningham wrote:



Yep, just CVSed the latest.  no joy.


never mind, I'm an idiot.  forgot the -d.  Trying again.

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Re: Where to get help Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows

2006-11-09 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote:


With most web forum software, you can easily set it to notify you of
responses to your inquiry, and never go back there until someone
responds to your inquiry.  Then, once you have your answer, you never
*have* to go back again.


so, no one goes there except to

a) ask a question
or
b) read the answer to their question

So, just exactly who will be answering?

I've been dealing with a forum-based group recently and I find the  
level of support far below a typical email list.  (Yeah, I know,  
sample size of one and all that.)


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[Xastir] 536kb image on home page?

2006-11-09 Thread Jason Winningham
As best I can tell the first image on www.xastir.org is 536kb (I know  
it takes a while to load).  That's pretty hefty.


On top of that, it doesn't show anything about xastir.

$0.02

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Re: [Xastir] Mapping

2006-11-09 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 9, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Stephen Brown Jr wrote:

Well I managed to download the shapefiles for my county based off  
of the

Tiger map data from
ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/Maps/TIGER/xastir.tamu.edu/2004/ 
counties/TN/


That's a good start.


Reading over this page
http://www.swcp.com/~russo/shape_web/tutorial.htmland it appears that
there are a lot of options you can configure, but a
little of this was over my head at this point.


Well, it so happens that there are already some dbfawk files for the  
TIGER shapefiles written and in place in the standard xastir  
distribution, so you don't really have to start from scratch the way  
Tom's tutorials walk you through.  You can find them in /usr/local/ 
share/xastir/config/tgr*.dbfawk (assuming you installed in /usr/ 
local/).  Use the info on Tom's web site to figure out how to tweak  
the dbfawk files to behave more like you want.


So now that I have some data, I would like to make it look like the  
original

tiger data and dont really know where to begin?


Begin by asking _why_ you want it to look like the original TIGER  
data. (:  By original TIGER data I assume you mean the TIGER data  
as rendered by the TIGER server.  The short answer is that it'd be  
tough.  A longer and more useful answer is to look in the dbfawks  
mentioned earlier and start modifying.  You can probably eventually  
get there.


You can also affect how your maps look by changing the background  
color and the map labels fonts (map - configure).


What are all those different files for and how can I start editing  
this to my liking?


The files you mention are the actual data.  You generally want to  
change how that data is rendered (via dbfawks, map properties, and  
tactics) and not actually change the data.


I also have MapInfo data available to me as well as Precision  
Mapping and
Street Atlas, as Darryl mentioned it would be useful if we could  
somehow use

that data as well if xastir supports it?


Talk to the vendors about that.  Mapping programs are generally  
somewhere between extremely unhelpful and hostile about use of their  
data by some other software.


There is an APRS application called APRS+SA that's some sort of  
plugin type app for a very old version of SA (v9, IIRC).   
Unfortunately it was recommended to our balloonsat project and I have  
found it to be so frustrating and complex that it is useless.  I have  
been actively campaigning to replace it with xastir (or anything  
else!) since the first time I used it.  APRS+SA convinced me to use a  
dedicated app like xastir.


I have to say this is the most I have ever used xastir and it is  
the most

advanced APRS program I have ever used. Good job devs.


hear, hear!

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Re: [Xastir] Multiple Servers

2006-10-24 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 23, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Ray Wells wrote:


a separate interface declared for each instance?


Yep, a separate interface for each APRS-IS server.  works fine.

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[Xastir] multiport KISS?

2006-10-23 Thread Jason Winningham
I'm thinking about ways to simplify the connection of multiple  
devices (TNCs, GPS, etc) - the old one (or no) serial port and 5  
devices scenario.


Does xastir have full multiport KISS support _without_ ax.25 kernel  
support?  Not all of us run linux...


It would be feasible to use a microcontroller to multiplex several  
devices onto one serial port, assuming the host application knows  
what to do with the data.


It would be nice if this could be done for non-KISS devices, like GPS  
units, non-KISS TNCs, electronic compasses, DF units, etc.  I suppose  
one cold use the microcontroller to convert everything to KISS. Some  
scheme for converting a GPS string to a KISS packet (APRS report with  
a special FROM call?) could probably be done, but that complicates  
the application for extracting the data.


I realize this could be done elsewhere (ie, daemon to handle the de- 
muxing), but if xastir multiport KISS works or is close, that may be  
the easiest route.


Yes, I know about the HASP hack, but I'm talking about something a  
bit more generic, handling multiple TNCs in both directions, etc.


I'm getting ready for the next balloon chase and my USB hub is dead.   
Instead of spending $10 on a new hub, this is what I started thinking  
about. |:


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Re: [Xastir] Timing Sliders

2006-10-23 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Robbie, wa9inf wrote:

Has this been touched on before? NO labels on any of the sliders  
for what the slider is setting the time for?


seems like this was a motif issue - lesstif vs. openmotif, I can't  
remember which one is more desirable...


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Re: [Xastir] slimming down dbf files

2006-10-05 Thread Jason Winningham


On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Kyle Kienapfel wrote:


I just used a DBF Viewer 2000 from this site to cut a 300mb dbf file
down to about 50.


I played with this a bit using the shapelib tools on some files (not  
the TIGER shape files, but can't remember which ones).  For the file  
I was looking at it didn't make much difference.  I wanted to look at  
the TIGER shapefiles because I suspected it could make some  
difference there, but never got around to it.



if I knew which one was used by the shp
file, I could cut a few more MB there.


Hmm, let's look at a dbfawk for clues.  Here's a section of the  
dbfawk for tgr2shp.dbfawk:


BEGIN {
# dbfinfo is the signature of the dbf file listing the column names  
in order.
# dbfinfo should match the dbf file that we say this dbfawk file goes  
with.
dbfinfo=MODULE:TLID:SIDE1:SOURCE:FEDIRP:FENAME:FETYPE:FEDIRS:CFCC:FRADD 
L:TOADDL:FRADDR:TOADDR:FRIADDL:TOIADDL:FRIADDR:TOIADDR:ZIPL:ZIPR:AIANHHF 
PL:AIANHHFPR:AIHHTLIL:AIHHTLIR:CENSUS1:CENSUS2:STATEL:STATER:COUNTYL:COU 
NTYR:COUSUBL:COUSUBR:SUBMCDL:SUBMCDR:PLACEL:PLACER:TRACTL:TRACTR:BLOCKL: 
BLOCKR;

#dbffields is which of the above fields we actually want to look at.
# No point reading dbffields that are not looked at further.
dbffields=TLID:FEDIRP:FENAME:FETYPE:FEDIRS:CFCC;
}


dbfinfo tells us that a shapefile with the fields indicated in  
dbfinfo (those names in that order) will be a match for this dbfawk.


dbffields tells us that we're only going to look at these fields;  
all others will be ignored in the dbfawk.


My (limited) understanding of dbfawks leads me to think we can  
eliminate all the fields that are not listed in dbffields, adjust  
dbfinfo accordingly, and we'll have a smaller file.


Why don't you try that and let us know how it goes?  (:

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Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?

2006-09-29 Thread Jason Winningham


On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Bennett, Bruce wrote:


What are folks feelings about an xastir entry in wikipedia?


Off hand, I'd say it would only dilute the useful information.   
There's already an APRS wiki (http://info.aprs.net) and I understand  
the xastir project home page just got a wiki as well.  What we need  
are all the documentation efforts in one place, so they're more  
effective.


I'd be all for a simple wikipedia entry with links to the xastir  
wiki, but creating yet another repository will divide efforts.


We probably do need an xastir link here, though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APRS


my $0.02...

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Re: [Xastir] RE: ref : New, Updated box time - which Linux??

2006-09-22 Thread Jason Winningham


On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Bennett, Bruce wrote:

Another choice? Yeah, in the past I have used a PCI serial port card 
w/4

ports... $$


Which is fine for a desktop, not so practical for a laptop.  ):  Yeah, 
I know there are PCMCIA solutions, too.


The SI Labs based devices can actually be re-programmed to bear a 
unique ID,

and from that can be made to enumerate in a specific order.


This is all a real weak point in the USB drivers.

The FTDI drivers for Mac OS X claim that, if the device has a serial 
number, the driver will use that serial number as the device special 
file name.  I don't have one that's serial numbered, so I have not been 
able to verify.  The FTDI tools for windows claims to be able to 
serialize a device if it isn't already, but I haven't tried that yet.


Offhand, I don't know of an OEM branded USB to serial that uses the SI 
Labs chip -


Not an OEM adapter, but the Sparkfun guys have a breakout board that 
has a USB B connector, the chip, and some headers for TTL level rs232.  
I'm using one now to power and interface a PIC/MX614 packet decoder.


http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=198

Looks like SparkFun has also picked up an FTDI device:

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=718

Both those are assembled breakout boards, but they also have the chips 
fairly cheap if an SMT chip solves your problems.


BG Micro (online surplus place) has a device with the FTDI chipset.  
They don't advertise it as such, but I have one and found it to be so.


http://www.bgmicro.com/prodinfo.asp?prodid=COM1193

I've also seen a device using an FTDI chipset that's 100% enclosed in a 
USB A connector, with bare wires on the other end for TTL level rs232 
as well as +5V and ground from the USB port.  I think it was about $15 
a copy, but I can't remember where I found it.



I realize most of these are parts, not packaged solutions, but if 
you're building something from a kit or from scratch, or don't care to 
hack at a piece of equipment, they can make some handy solutions.  My 
favorite part is drawing power from USB, and eliminating both the power 
cord to the peripheral as well as the voltage regulation from the 
circuit.


In my experimenting I have stumbled across one poor solution that works 
for Mac OS X:  Most of those drivers use something vendor specific in 
the device special file name, so if you use only one device from each 
vendor, the names are unique. |:


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Re: [Xastir] ref : New, Updated box time - which Linux??

2006-09-21 Thread Jason Winningham


On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Bennett, Bruce wrote:


Now: another question - since true serial ports are scarce, are
USB-to-serial converters the way to go??


is there another choice?

stay away from Belkin adapters.  I've had good luck with Keyspan, and 
so far one I've played with that's based on the FTDI chipset has 
performed OK.


The big hassle for me is the fact that the device special file name 
depends on the order in which the OS decides to enumerate the device, 
and that order can change depend on where it's plugged in as well as 
other factors.


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