[Xastir] xastir list server overly aggressive in DSBL use?
I just tried to send a message to the list from gmail, and the xastir list server bounced it based on some DSBL excuse. Is the xastir list server being overly aggressive, is DSBL broken, or what? -Jason Jason Winningham Computer Systems Engineer College of Engineering The University of Alabama in Huntsville http://support.eng.uah.edu/http://www.eng.uah.edu/~jdw ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] message decay algorithm not playing well with javAPRSsrv / WIDEn-n dupe suppression?
There's a thread on the javAPRSsrv list about xastir's message retry decay algorithm not playing well with the duplicate supression done by both javAPRSsrv and the UIDIGI WIDEn-n. The issue has to do with the retries being attempted before the duplicate suppression (10s on WIDEn- n and 30s on APRS-IS) will allow the duplicates to pass. There's a complaint that there is no way to adjust the retry timing in xastir. (I looked and didn't see a way, could have been pilot error on my part.) Is anyone aware of this issue? Should I post some of the thread here? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Terraserver problems with map registration
On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Tom Russo wrote: but if there were a way to search the archives for this list plug site:lists.xastir.org/pipermail/xastir searchphrase into google. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir compiled static?
On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: A better recommendation would be to use the VMWare image inside VMWare Player, assuming that the end-user machines are adequate to run VMWare. That way you can run Linux inside VMWare and use either the Xastir-LSB version or a custom compiled version with all the libraries you need. If I'm not mistaken, the virtual machine that Tom built already has pretty much everything built in. Another nice thing about the virtual machines is that you can install maps and configure them on the virtual machine, then distribute maps and all to your group. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote: http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ Ah, this is more like it. At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels). Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing, vector maps based on TIGER data. Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the mac. Oh well, another one bites the dust. I did notice this, though: GPX, an XML schema for waypoint, route, and track exchange. Could be interesting to include in xastir if XML support is included along the way. http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:27 PM, William McKeehan wrote: This would require Xastir having an http style server that would serve up pages and would respond to certain queries with XML code. Nice idea - this would be a reasonably easy interface for add-on tools. This makes me think of the Xastir version 2 database engine. Developers, any thoughts on v2? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: Maps, maps and more maps. Ye gods, xastir already supports hundreds of formats. If there's an area of xastir lacking, that ain't it. (: We need the ability to use Google maps Licensing issues could problematic, but I think someone is already keeping an eye on that. I suspect something more like our own internet map server (or set of servers) could be useful, so that the free map data that's available could be stored in such a way it could be displayed nicely and consistently. An added bonus to this method would be that those of us who operate mobile/internet-less could duplicate the mapserver with our personal dataset. True cross-platform compatibility. Should it be developed in Python or Java? I'd say neither, as scripting/interpreted languages (Python) don't always scale well (there's a _lot_ of code in xastir). Python doesn't appeal to me for another reason: minor version differences are incompatible with each other (ImageMagick, anyone?). I've got a reasonably complex unix enterprise configuration, and python is a serious pain. Java seems to be a pig, performance-wise. I'd like to see xastir remain fairly lightweight for mobile/portable applications. Something like Qt (licensing issues again!) would be more desirable, IMO. wxWidgets claims to be a similar open source cross-platform development toolkit, but I know nothing about it (other than the only time I tried to install on Solaris it wouldn't build without a fight). Having said all that, I'll say this: it should be left up to the developers, as they'll be writing the code. As long as the code meets user specs it doesn't matter what the implementation details are. Some of the modularization ideas we've seen kicked around on this list leads me to think maybe that after the inital release of v2, the UI module could fork, with different versions for windows, X11, and (my personal favorite) Mac OS. I don't agree with us (the users) setting deadlines. Again, the developers are doing the work, for free, on their own precious time. I'm pretty grateful for what we get out of 'em, especially under those conditions. (: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote: Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't dictate that server and only that server can be used? I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions (PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation. queue Gerry I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than the rest of the xastir support packages. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] using a USB-to-serial adapter (fwd)
On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote: they use the FDTI chipset which is well supported in many OS'es including Linux. I haven't used the devices from Parallax, but I have settled on FTDI as my favorite USB/232 chipset. I have several of these in various forms and they do work well with windows, Mac os X, and linux (can't remember if I've tried them with Solaris, but FTDI doesn't supply Solaris drivers). I suspect (but don't know) that the Parallax device has a DB9 male connector, as that's the standard. I have used this one from BG Micro. It has a 6' cable, which could be good or bad depending on your needs. $15: http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=10405 If you need TTL level interface (roll your own USB interface for a TNC-X or something along those lines), SparkFun.com has breakout boards with a USB jack and through-holes for the TTL levels signals. They're not really cheap at $15, but you don't have to solder an SMT device. The Ic is also available for $5 or so, and it requires minimal external components (not even a clock source). There are also versions that include 4 serial ports on a single cable - either a box or an octopus type arrangement. I haven't bought one of these yet, but plan to do so within the next few weeks. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] xastir.org mailserver problem? (was: What's with the bullseye?)
X-Spam-Score: 7.59 (***) DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS FYI, the original message and Curt's reply went into my spam bucket. SpamAssassin apparently doesn't like the list server anymore. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:56 AM, William McKeehan wrote: Has anyone thought about adding a scripting capability within Xastir? We're on unix, so it's already there - it's called perl. (: An example of the type of thing that I'm thinking about would be keeping track of how many runners have pasted a particular point. An Xastir station at that particular point would execute this script which would prompt for a number. The user would enter a number and the script/Xastir would handle the rest. The rest could be creating and sending a message to the NCS station with the updated information or it could be creating an object using this information. I could see this trivially handled in a perl script. If there are electronic methods for counting, it would be easy to generate reports automatically (maybe as some sort of signpost object, with the number being the # of runners who have passed?) Am I off my rocker or is this an idea worth considering? I've got perl scripts that both generate and consume APRS data using xastir's server port. I need to update the generate scripts to use xastir's UDP client program to make gating to RF easier. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Garmin Rino being dropped?
On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote: What is the status of the new generation of trackers ( Tracker2, I think?). As I understand, the innovation is that they are digipeaters as well. Correct? Scott has a couple. The T2, currently in beta, seems to be very near production status. It is a full-up TNC with digpeat capability, has a tracker in it, and can plot received stations on a mapping GPS. The OT+ does some decoding in software. It's not as good at decode as the T2, but it's better than nothing. Byon has some new TinyTrack stuff (the TT4 sounds comparable to the OT +, IIRC), but I don't know much about them. Byon's stuff is all closed source. Scott's OpenTracker series is open source, so Scott gets my money. For SAR GPS tracking, on each field searcher, we would still need a radio, a tracker, and a mapping GPS. Is that correct? That depends on your needs. If all you need is for someone at the ICP to know where the teams are, you can get by with a dumb tracker (radio/tracker/GPS engine). If you want the teams to know where the other teams and other resources are, they'll need decode and mapping capability (D7 or Tracker 2 and mapping GPS). Is there any company that anyone knows of that is working on a unit with the radio/gps/tracker that will work on the APRS network -- aka, a Rino for Ham? Nothing I've heard of. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] standard err
On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:18 PM, vic wrote: Can the output from xastir to the terminal be stopped somehow with a command or command string when xastir is started with the option to put it into the background?? xastir 2/dev/null which means redirect file descriptor 2 aka stderr to the file specified. to redirect output and stderr, xastir /dev/null 21 which means redirect file descriptor 1 to the file specified, then redirect file descriptor 2 to the same place. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Display levels with GNIS files
On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Carver wrote: Playing around with the GNIS files, I've filtered them down a bit so that I'm not swamped with 30,000 records but I wanted to know what exactly is controlling whether a GNIS feature displays or doesn't at a particular zoom level. It's hard coded. I have considered converting my GNIS files to shapelib just so I could create a dbfawk to control them. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Aug 10, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Bernard Michael Tyers wrote: Can I ask how you created/plotted the grey dotted rectangular box on the map? I am guessing its the search area of that particular aircraft? That is the position ambiguity for that APRS station, which is in fact an aircraft. For whatever reason this person chose to transmit only about 3 or 4 digits of position data which leaves a pretty large area of uncertainty. This box with a dotted outline is xastir's way of telling you it's somewhere inside this box. IIRC, station - filter display - display position ambiguity controls the display of this box. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?
wow - replicated on the first try. 100% repeatable on my iMac, OS X 10.4.10, xastir 1.9.1, CVS as of a few days ago. no idea if it's an xastir thing, or an os X X11 thing. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Aug 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: but still leaves me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can adjust the fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have a color scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc. Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts? That's for you to decide after you try it. (: The shapefiles you downloaded are a bit complex, but there are already dbfawks in the xastir distribution to deal with them (in /usr/ local/share/xastir/config, I think). You can modify those dbfawks to try and achieve the look you want. One thing that you'll probably find missing is a selection of linestyles - xastir's is pretty limited. IIRC you've got solid lines and dashed lines. If you're looking for a wide gray line with black borders, you're out of luck. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] .xbm done for DENSE_FOG plus other info...
On Aug 6, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Eric H Christensen wrote: Shouldn't there be a way to prioritize them? For example, the Thunderstorm Warning should be trumped by the Tornado Warning. The current xbm's that I put together would stack - the text was placed so that text from one wouldn't go on top of text from another, in the case of multiples. There were some exceptions, I think - maybe red flag (a fire type warning, IIRC) would overlay winter_wx or winter storm if they happen to occur at the same time. If you want to extend that design, it may be time to add a third line and extend the dithering on the existing files, just to keep everything consistent. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Help! with Linux
On Aug 3, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote: OK... I made a really dumb move. I cleaned up and tossed the installation notes. On that was the Administrators password. Is there anyway to recover it? Is there anyway to reset it? OK, this is rough because I'm not much of a linux guy (Solaris is my day job) and I haven't done SuSE at allm but this should be close. easy way: if you put your user account in the sudoers file, do this: sudo passwd root it will ask for your password, then it should ask for a new root password (twice). Hard way: boot from a LiveCD, mount the hard drive, edit /etc/shadow as follows: on the line that begins root: delete all that garbage (the encrypted password) between the first and second colons. Reboot the system and root will have no password. If I reload Linux (openSUSE), will that take care of it? well yeah, but so will buying a new computer. (: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Questions about Xastir running under VMplayer
On On Aug 2, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote: _*The downside is that VMplayer only allows for one serial port.*_ This is wrong. I've used two, one for the radio and one for the GPS. The xastir vm may only have one serial port _configured_ out of the box (er, zip file?), but it's certainly capable of more. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] libgeotiff (Mac OS X)
On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Chip G. wrote: /usr/bin/ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/local/lib/ libgeotiff.a is out of date; rerun ranlib In this case the error message tells you what to do (but it isn't all that clear if you haven't heard of the ranlib command). sudo ranlib /usr/local/lib/libgeotiff.a -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Success with shapefiles!!!
On Jul 19, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Jim Tolbert wrote: Does anyone know, can I change colors and symbols and show labels now, You are now ready for the wonderful world of dbfawk writing. Wiki instructions at http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:DBFAWK The original instructions I used: http://www.swcp.com/~russo/shape_web/tutorial.html ... and don't forget to look in /usr/local/share/xastir/config for examples. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: Spam:*****, Re: [Xastir] Mac: odd process problem
On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Chip G. wrote: is it certain to he the driver? Nope. I was getting pretty wound up trying to solve a similar problem. It eventually occurred to me that my faithful Keyspan device might actually be dead. It was. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] A success report and an inquiry
On Jul 6, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote: Or create new GNIS files somehow? Well, you're one of the developers, so you tell me if it makes more sense to: - create new GNIS files in the old format with new data (assuming that's possible) - re-code so that xastir understands the new GNIS format - convert the GNIS files to shapefiles, and abandon the GNIS support built into xastir That last one makes a certain amount of sense to me (a non-developer) since shapelib support has been integrated with the standard distribution. I can't even remember now what the problem with the GNIS files were; the format changed, but did it change so that they are no longer useful? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] New geocode database files available at aprs.tamu.edu
On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Reuven Z Gevaryahu wrote: I had tried doing this a few months back, and noticed that the geocoder scripts gave many errors, There were some errors (unexpected version code) that I think were related to having a newer version of the TIGER data than the script was written for. There were a very few other errors, but the data seemed OK. If anyone finds a problem, post a message here and we'll have a look. Did you have to make any changes to the geocoder source code to run these? Not the source. I did make a small change to a script when running the entire USA in one file; the way the script was written there was a single command that was over 17kb long, and for some reason linux had a problem with it. |: Other than that, no changes. I should also note that Tom did all the hard part on this and the TIGER shapefile maps; all I did was take advantage of a fat pipe and some idle machines. (: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Mac: odd process problem
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Curt Mills wrote: Note: I'm not a Mac user, but _am_ a Unix and Linux user/SysAdmin, me too... so I'm not sure how fragile a Mac is these days. I would think not very fragile... nope, not at all. I personally rank it just below solaris and above linux in reliability. I just took an X-serve down after 4 years of reliable service. The hardware finally flaked out, so I had to put it down. Tom brought up a good point, though. If you are using USB/rs232 adapters, please list which one, especially the chipset if you can (list the device special file name if all else fails; sometimes that's a clue). The only serious problems I've ever had at the mac OS level when using xastir were related to the driver for a usb/232 adapter. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?
On Jul 1, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I have just now created a vertical 1/2 wave dipole. I tune it with an MFJ box. A roll-up J-pole is slightly more complex to build (but not much!) and doesn't need a tuner. A J-pole has noticeably more gain than a dipole, too. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?
On Jul 1, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Ray Wells wrote: Given that a J-pole is only a dipole with an alternative feed method (i.e. at the end rather than the centre), I have to wonder where this gain comes from. beats me, but when we fly 'em on the balloons, the J-pole has a better range. Could be that the lack of a balun isn't so bad with a J-pole than with a dipole. Could be some other construction issue, too. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Newbee question re: Garmin Rino / Cygwin / Xastir and SAR
On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote: Garmin Rinos within 5 miles of the search incident command would be a workable alternative. This seems pretty optimistic. I don't know about the Rinos, but in my very limited experience with FRS radios 5mi seems to be a bit much for them, unless one is on a mountain and has a straight shot to the other. I would think that the data range would be even less than the voice range. I don't know about Cygwin support for GPSman (again, haven't tried that myself), but if Cygwin doesn't work, using the virtual machine with VMware player will work. The VM is noticeably faster, in my experience, than Cygwin. As for a more optimum solution, if the units in the field don't need to track other units, a basic HT with an opentracker and GPS would do nicely. Buying new, one could put these together for probably $225 - $250 each. If the units in the field _do_ need to track the others, currently the optimum solution is the Kenwood D7 + a mapping GPS. A bonus in using the D7 is that it's a dual band radio, so it could be used for voice communications as well as data. This is a $500+ solution. There is a new Opentracker in the works that would do it cheaper, but it's not in production yet. Of course, all these ham radio solutions assume everyone is licensed and all that good stuff. Trackers can be put together on other bands, but if the county's radio infrastructure is already limited there probably isn't anything left lying around for conversion to trackers. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] System cost options
On Jun 26, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Jim Tolbert wrote: Is the general consensus that I should wait until we can afford the Kenwood / GPS unit system or go now with one of the Rino options. That sort of depends on your situation: is something better than nothing? Sure the Rino FRS doesn't have the range that a 5 watt D7 has, but if that's all you can afford and you _really_ need something... Also, you don't have to do either/or. If your ICP station has an APRS rig and a Rino, xastir will happily display data from both networks, and I'm pretty sure it can relay the Rino data to the APRS network (but not vice-versa). Another con to the D7 is the poor battery that comes from the factory. Not a show stopper, but pretty disappointing. I personally would ask for money for the D7 configuration. If they give you less, go from there. With the amount of money that's hemorrhaging from Homeland Security, surely there's some dollars for emergency comms somewhere... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Maps
On Jun 25, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Tom Russo wrote: If your ECW images are 24-bit color, you'll also have to convert to 8-bit for geotiff (because nobody's written the 24-bit geotiff code yet). I've done that for some color DOQQs in my area. Just wondering if there would be a performance hit going from 8 bit to 24 bit images if someone were to implement support for 24 bit geotiffs? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Fetching a trail
On Jun 17, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Earl Needham wrote: Ah -- maybe I misunderstood. I thought the question was whether I had moved while downloading the track. The track should have actually shown my movement of perhaps 2000 miles. well, a download only gets packets that made it to an Igate, but I would think that at least some of them would have gotten in on a 2000 mile trip. Yep, I got a lot of packets when I download a trail for KD5XB-11. I see nothing for KD5XB, though. I'm not sure how a download trail works when it's the current stations trail you are downloading. I've never tried it, but your results indicate xastir doesn't want to do it. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] I'm about to ask some dumb questions...
On May 23, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote: I can't seem to get Xastir to transmit my position. I'm runnign without a TNC, via TCP/IP all of the following must be true: - interface configuration must allow transmitting - IS interface must have correct password (generated with callpass) - interface - disable transmit: ALL must be cleared - interface - disable transmit: My Position must be cleared -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CAD object transmissions?
On May 16, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Craig Anderson wrote: That APRS channel could be co-resident with a TCP/IP over AX.25 KISS channel that I suppose could really be carrying the CAD objects. TCP/IP is a connected mode point to point protocol, not really suitable for one-to-many communications. Functionally, I would like to have everyone be able to see the same picture and, in effect, treat the Xastir map as a shared blackboard. this is pretty much what APRS is already A CAD object with a small text string attached, even if that text string is only accessible by bringing up the Station Info on the object. this is called the status text, an optional part of every position report. There is also a messaging system with unicast, multicast and broadcast capability. We plan on running most of our frequencies other than 144.39 to reduce the clutter of all the other stations and avoid the overwhelming congestion of way too many digipeaters in some areas. There's something to be said for maximizing bandwidth for your application, but there's also something to be said for taking advantage of the existing infrastructure. Of course, you can do both - I have operated APRS on three different frequencies feeding a single instance of xastir; it's an easy way to increase available bandwidth. The ability to send out a cancel packet to remove a CAD object would be good. it's already there - right click on the object in xastir to access the capability. I, myself, am not concerned about interoperability with other programs well, APRS is _supposed_ to be a standard so that everyone can shoot at the same target. I'm imagining a HAZMAT incident in a town and the EOC starts marking off road closures, command posts, decon areas, shelters, and down-wind evacuation areas. Everyone can see the whole picture, just like a status board. And others can add new problems to the board. That's the basic idea behind APRS. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] interface failures, part 2
good morning/afternoon/evening all, I'm still dealing with xastir losing the serial port at times. (a reminder of my issue, the actual fault is with USB problems, not with xastir.) I think maybe xastir could be a bit smarter about recovery, and an automatic retry for devices (like server ports) would be useful. Here is my scenario: - multiple USB/rs232 devices are attached to a laptop for GPS, TNC, etc. - laptop goes to sleep (shutting down USB in the process), USB cable gets unplugged, Belkin USB hub dies, etc. - xastir's connection to /dev/tty.whatever fails; this is noted, but no further action is taken by xastir - laptop wakes up/USB cable gets plugged back in, no devices working with xastir. - try to manually restart interface, xastir refuses to open /dev/ tty.whatever because someone has a lock file on it. - manually rm the lock files, then start the interface in xastir. normal operation resumes (until the next time) I think there are two issues with xastir here: 1 - xastir fails to recognize that _it_ created the lock file, so it's OK to remove it and restart the interface like I asked. My feeling is this is a bug. 2 - it would be nice if I could tell xastir to automatically retry opening the device special file if it errors out, just like we do with server connections. I guess this is a feature request. Curt, I didn't try the error message patches you sent yet because I had a balloon flight and not enough time. Are those in the latest CVS, or should I go ahead and patch them in? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] more wiki spam
On May 1, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Tom Russo wrote: The main page should probably have at least a confirm-by-email registration process and require registration for commenting. Unfortunately the vandals have that automated, too... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Dayton Hamvention Xastir help
Doesn't Dana (N1OZF?) have a double-clickable install for Mac OS? It's an older version (1.8.0 or thereabouts) but it's fine for trying out xastir. I suggest bringing questions to the entire list - even if one person is primarily answering, it gives others a chance to point out things that the responder may have forgotten, and to take up the slack if someone can't answer for a while (pesky jobs tend to get in the way of the important stuff sometimes). -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] more wiki spam
anyone noticed the comments under stable version ... is out on www.xastir.org? lotsa wikispam. http://www.xastir.org/article.php?story=20061103223112116#comments -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] heard stations as waypoints to GPS?
Does xastir send waypoints corresponding to heard stations to an attached GPS like the D7/D700 do? I nearly always use xastir with a GPS engine or without a GPS, so I can't remember... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Serial GPS support in Xastir built from Darwin Ports?
On Apr 27, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Bernard Michael Tyers wrote: Ok, so I connected my GPS, found it was sdevice: /dev/tty.KeySerial1 Enabled it in Interfaces menu, and Xastir hung saying waiting for GPS. So I guess I gotta go build gpsd?! no, just put the GPS on that port and configure a GPS interface for xastir. xastir doesn't magically find a GPS just like it doesn't magically find a TNC - you've got to set it up. AFAIK the only reason to use GPSd is so you can share the GPS among multiple applications. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Looking for GNIS files
On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:52 AM, gdw wrote: Does anyone by chance have the older gnis files for SC, NC and GA? I am setting up a machine for the Columbia, SC Weather Service and have discovered that the current gnis files from the .gov site don't work. those three are at http://www.eng.uah.edu/pub/xastir or ftp://ftp.eng.uah.edu/pub/xastir Are the old ones something we should make available, maybe on Gerry's server? I've got room for them on mine, but if we're keeping maps at Gerry's, might as well put them all in the same place? I have a set of gnis files, but I may have edited the historical places out of them in a de-cluttering effort. I don't have all the .map files. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Dbfawk font_size
On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Troy M. Campbell wrote: I'd like to display the label of a county (for example) depending on the zoom level. Is there a way to do this? I can't figure out the expression for it. I wanted to display borders in a different line style based on zoom level, but couldn't figure out a way to do it. I ended up playing some games with symbolic links (to make it appear that there were two different copies of the same map) and using display levels and different dbfawks to get it done. Pretty hokey, but if you _really_ want it... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Configuration of operation not clear
If I remember correctly, if your TNC isn't KISS, xastir can't use it to digipeat. Xastir's digi function is a bit limited, and not really intended to take the place of a full-up digipeater. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Tiger map data?
On Apr 11, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: I haven't tried the latest Shapefile downloads so I don't know if the distributed dbfawk files work properly with them. Who's tried this? I think I have. The latest use the FIPS code instead of county for the filename, right? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] improved error messages for interface failures?
Had a few problems with my APRS rig on this weekend's balloon chase. All have been attributed to pilot error and yet another faulty Belkin USB hub (which I guess could also be considered pilot error, since it's the third time I've been bitten by a Belkin hub, but we won't go there). Xastir didn't do a lot to help me troubleshoot, though. I goofed entering the device special file name for the TNC serial port, but all I got was ERROR in the interface status and the standard error opening interface X: hard fail on the tty. Could we maybe add at least errno, or even better the message associated with errno, when something fails? A popup would be nice, but I could certainly live with it getting to the tty. I'm posting here first before filing a feature request in case the information is already there and I'm overlooking it. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] KPC-3Plus
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Peter Maxfield wrote: Is /dev/ttyS3 the equivalent of com4? only if it's a real com port. For a USB device, look at /dev/ ttyUSBx, where x is 0 for the first rs232/usb device enumerated, 1 for the second, etc. I'm assuming you are running linux native and aren't talking about the virtual machine configuration. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Stable release plus version numbering
On Mar 29, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: This might muck with the TOCALL a bit. Right now we're sending APX185. We'd need to send APX110 which would appear to be going backwards in our revisions. do it in hex? APX1A0 -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TIGER/Line files --- End of an Era
On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Troy M. Campbell wrote: I _could_ get a file with population by FIPS code and merge it into a GNIS set using XASTIR's current file format, If you're gonna do that, why not just make it a shapefile and create a dbfawk, so the sufficiently interested user can control the display levels? I've been threatening to do that to the GNIS data, but haven't gotten around to it... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] TIGER/Line files --- End of an Era
On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:07 AM, Jason Winningham wrote: I think in the contrib directory That was vague; I should have said in the _shapelib_ contrib directory (as opposed to the xastir contrib directory). -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] xastir VM woes
On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:27 PM, I wrote: I'm having issues running xastir in a VMware vm that I suspect are virtual machine-host machine issues. I've got everything loaded and going, including handing control of a USB/rs232 adapter to the guest OS. The extremely strange (and frustrating) thing is that the guest machine can write to the D7 over the usb/rs232 adapter, but data from the D7 never gets back to xastir. I can turn off the vm and fire up hyperterm and talk back and forth just fine, so it's not a cabling or hardware issue. Just in case someone else runs up on this, I applied this trick: http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/ HowTo:VMware#Working_around_broken_autodetection_of_serial_ports and it solved my problems. The systems in question are two Dell laptops with built-in modems and two different (Keyspan and Prolific) USB/rs232 adapters, both exhibiting the same broken behavior before applying the workaround. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] making big shapefiles
I've been thinking about ways to simplify map configuration, and an idea that just hit me was to combine TIGER shapefiles from multiple counties to make one huge shapefile, reducing the set to three or four per state. I know I'm gonna take a hit the first time I read a big shapefile, but rtree should save me after that first one. Questions for the group: what are the reasons not to do this? I'm sure there are some, but I can't think of any other than the one I mentioned. Can I configure rtree's cache timeout value? I know there's not a slider on the timer menu and I would probably need to hack the source. Other than the obvious permanent memory utilization, is there any reason I shouldn't make rtree's cache live forever? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] xastir VM woes
I'm having issues running xastir in a VMware vm that I suspect are virtual machine-host machine issues. I've got everything loaded and going, including handing control of a USB/rs232 adapter to the guest OS. The extremely strange (and frustrating) thing is that the guest machine can write to the D7 over the usb/rs232 adapter, but data from the D7 never gets back to xastir. I can turn off the vm and fire up hyperterm and talk back and forth just fine, so it's not a cabling or hardware issue. There's nothing obvious in the vmware.txt log file, but it's pretty cryptic anyway. |: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] AX25 interfacing
On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: I also looked at the permissions for the pty port: crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 2, 0 2007-02-24 19:51 /dev/ptyp0 I think these things come in pairs - ptypX and ttypX. If it's a permission problem, you may need to check/change both. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Radar and Tigermaps
On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:27 AM, William M. Bickley wrote: I can see either a weather radar or a Tigermap just fine, but I can't figure out how to display both at the same time. When I choose both, I only see the Tigermap. What's the trick? map - map chooser - properties make sure the radar is on a higher layer than the TIGER map. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] APRStt
On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:42 PM, William McKeehan wrote: I think Bob may have a good idea with the APRStt thing. I can see several instances where it would be nice to have someone with an HT enter some data quickly just by entering touch tones. The biggest hitch I see is that you're typing blind (a major problem for someone of my typing skills), and need some sort of feedback to verify you entered the data correctly. I think for it to be useful the speech synthesis component is pretty much mandatory. The bar code scanner (or a simple device with a 16-key keypad and an LCD) would be more likely to get good data entered. Has anyone considered putting APRStt into Xastir? I'd think that would be better as a separate application, taking advantage of xastir's server port to display/digi/gate reports. Adding code for audio decoding would be complex and not very portable, assuming you could get an xastir developer to take it on. What's the user interface component, besides a table mapping positions and object/station names to numeric shortcuts? Bob's web page wasn't terribly clear about all that. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2006 files as shapefiles
I just downloaded the lot of 'em (I2 between me and Gerry :) and took a quick look. Most files extract into a subdirectory called xlate. A few extract into the current directory. Files have the same signature, so existing dbfawks work. FIPS coded filenames aren't too friendly, but the zip files are named by state. Polygons are not there. There are a few minor changes in my neighborhood (literally) that appear to be corrections; I'll have to put a GPS trail down to be sure. I have no idea about the quality of data overall. I'd recommend changing the filenames to include the state and county and eliminating that xlate subdirectory, and the polygons sure are nice to have around. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Tiger 2006 files as shapefiles
On Feb 19, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Jason Winningham wrote: (except for the missing polygons). I should clarify: the polygon data is generated via a different method, and results in a separate shapelib. Again, there is nothing wrong with the shapefiles you generated. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Slightly OT: Three-headed BigBox on Fedora 6
If y'all keep talking I'm gonna have to learn how to do a multihead sunray configuration just so I can put 30 of 'em on one virtual X display. Let's see, 6 monitors wide by 5 tall running at 1900x1200 resolution. What would xastir look like at 11400 x 6000 resolution? (: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir and TCP/IP over AX.25 coexistence?
On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Craig Anderson wrote: I want to be able to pick up the APRS packets at those hill-top radios but display them back in the EOC. If you're talking about an RF solution, you just described a digi... What should run on the hill-top computer? Is there a simple forwarding program? I will have TCP/IP connections from the EOC to the hill-top computers. run xastir, enable the server port, then configure your APRS station at the EOC to connect to the two hilltop xastir servers. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Bluetooth connection to D700!
On Feb 3, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Tom Russo wrote: This is by no means an inexpensive alternative to a USB-Serial dongle, No kidding. $60 per serial connection, plus one for your laptop if it isn't built in. What I can't figure out is why a bluetooth adapter for the computer can be had for $7, but the RS232 end costs $60. I know economies of scale are involved, but come on! If I get my serial mux thing worked out, I can put a single bluetooth/ 232 module in there and eliminate the cable to the laptop, anyway. Maybe that's my incentive to get moving on that project. The nifty thing about this is that if you have an application for which the BlueLync's signal levels aren't good enough, you could always throw together a quick adapter using a MAX232 IC to get true RS232 signal levels. I've got a Tracker2 beta unit, and I fried two of the 2n7000 transistors (same as used on the BlueLync serial) with no effort and in a very short time, and I'd advise going the MAX232 route if you need for it to be reliable. I've retrofitted one to my Tracker2. On the subject of D700 serial connections, I put a DB9-RJ45 adapter on my radio and leave it on all the time. Not only is this an easy way to get around the gender issue (Kenwood used the wrong gender on the radio), but it's easy to grab a CAT5 cable of the appropriate length and click it in place, without fumbling around under the back seat trying to find the screws to secure the DB9. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir OS X
If you're talking about the online TIGERmaps, the TIGER server frequently gets bogged down. You may want to try increasing the timeout (which I think is located in the .geo file). -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] non-kernel mkiss app usefulness?
On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:14 AM, Carl Makin wrote: Source code to a linux mkiss daemon that should be pretty easy to make work without the linux ax25 code is reachable via the radio.linux.org.au site; http://radio.linux.org.au/pkgdetail.phtml? sectpat=Allordpat=descpat=pkgid=93 Thanks. This looks like it does the job, and does it more simply that I would have expected. It's going to need a bit of work to compile on OS X. Here's a different solution for those who, like me, need to hook up a bunch of rs232 devices without much fuss. I stumbled across this: http://www.cooldrives.com/4rstousbadwm.html I have not bought one, but it looks like it meets my needs: 4 rs232 ports, one box, on cable back to computer (USB, not rs232), uses the FTDI chipset (drivers work on windows, linux, mac os x) and in addition can supply external power to the DB9 connector (not sure of the details on that one). Yeah, it's $90, but it's four usb/rs232 adapters plus a usb hub in one box, so the price is in line with the solution I've got now. Plus it's a nice metal box with mounting tabs and power distribution over DB9. If I hadn't already spent close to $100 on various usb/ rs232 adapters I'd already have one on the way. If anyone actually has one of these, please let me know how it performs. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] mac osx 10.4.8 Xastir 1.8.5 working here, mostly.
On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:27 PM, Tom Russo wrote: The one that comes with FreeBSD is, I believe, version 1.8.5 or thereabouts. My bet is that Mac OS X's is probably of a similar vintage. sounds right, could be even older. db.h says * @(#)db.h8.7 (Berkeley) 6/16/94 * $FreeBSD: src/include/db.h,v 1.5 2002/03/26 01:35:05 bde Exp $ -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] mac osx 10.4.8 Xastir 1.8.5 working here, mostly.
Just out of curiosity, is there some reason we're not using the DB that comes with Mac OS X? Curt, if you need an account on an OS X machine I can probably arrange it (I assume you can SSH in and to the X11 forwarding thing). -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:30 PM, James Ewen wrote: Jason's server rocks! I was able to pull down the file at an average of 3.5 Mbps, with peaks to 4.5 Mbps. If I were on a fast connection, I wonder what I could have done! Glad to hear it - I can't remember the last time I heard something positive about out network. |: In the interest if full disclosure, I'm at a .edu and all the students have gone home for break. Normally I have to share the bandwidth with several thousand students who are constantly downloading movies and music (or so the network people would have us believe. :) -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Reporting configure report
On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Tom Russo wrote: Time to turn it on by default? yep. I've been ready for a while now. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Need Feedback: CVS, plus LSB Xastir info
On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: Where is GraphicsMagick installed on that system? In particular what are the full paths to these files? on Mac OS X, depends on if fink, darwinports, or standard install is used. The base dir will be one of /sw /opt /usr/local -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Re: Wind Gusts
On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote: It also sounds like the values requested by NOAA are different than the APRS spec dictates we transmit. In this case, should we lobby to have the APRS spec changed to meet NOAA standards? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware (fwd)
Is this different than the python scripts, whose output we've been using for a few years now? -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware (fwd)
On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Tom Russo wrote: Having never used TGR2SHP, I don't know if there's a clear advantage to switching tools. The process is sufficiently complex that there are things that are missed by the ogr2ogr/Xastir-tigerpoly.py method, so maybe there is a good reason to switch. The only thing that bothers me about the current polygons is when there are many adjacent polygons that define a single area. This results in a slightly ugly polygon and a serious mess with the labels. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..
On Nov 19, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Curt Mills wrote: Unfortunately I think most of the trackers out there aren't set up to transmit more often than once per minute using timeslotting. I fly opentrackers on balloons with timeslotting and intervals of 20s or 30s. Works just fine. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..
On Nov 18, 2006, at 5:52 PM, James Ewen wrote: I'm not sure if the OpenTracker is able to sync to the GPS time embedded in the NMEA strings or not. it does. A timeslot every other second is no sweat. If your packets and TXdelay are short you can probably get one a second. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] New user..and thanks..
On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Jeff Mohler wrote: Not sure what to do with timing yet, most of the time we'll have no more than 5 vehicles to track, at Mid Ohio I could have up to 12-15. I'll have to play with the options in the opentracker on the sending side, to see how I can most intelligently deal with near-real-time updates. When in action, 30s is far too slow, but I dont see how 5 vehicles could xmit updates every 5 seconds without lots of collisions. Use another frequency - let odd vehicles use freq A and even vehicles use freq B. The xastir station has a receiver/TNC on each frequency. With frequent updates, timeslotting is your friend. Now that I think about it, if you're updating every few seconds there may be a bit of latency in xastir's display processing. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows
On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote: Anyone tried it on MacOSX yet? OK, second try is going better after RTFM. Did a cvs -d, got the source code but the same results from configure. Ran bootstrap.sh before running configure and it was happier. configure made the right noises, compile is running now. I'm late for a balloon chase; I'll have to run it when I get back. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows
On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Curt, WE7U wrote: Anyone tried it on MacOSX yet? Yep, just CVSed the latest. no joy. Started with a clean /usr/local, installed openmotif, pcre and proj. imac:/usr/local/source/xastir jdw$ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking shapefil.h usability... no checking shapefil.h presence... no checking for shapefil.h... no checking libshp/shapefil.h usability... no checking libshp/shapefil.h presence... no checking for libshp/shapefil.h... no configure: WARNING: *** configure: WARNING: Your system does not have shapelib installed. Using configure: WARNING: an internal version, which will lead to larger executable configure: WARNING: file size. To eliminate this warning, install shapelib on your system. . config.status: creating src/shapelib/Makefile config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/shapelib/Makefile.in imac:/usr/local/source/xastir jdw$ In the interest if full disclosure, I had a working install, everything installed in /usr/local. I just renamed /usr/local and started a new one for this test. This could have resulted in something abnormal, but I don't think so. config.log is attached for your viewing pleasure. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows
On Nov 11, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Jason Winningham wrote: Yep, just CVSed the latest. no joy. never mind, I'm an idiot. forgot the -d. Trying again. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: Where to get help Re: [Xastir] Better and/or Easier Way to Get Xastir on Windows
On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Jeremy Utley wrote: With most web forum software, you can easily set it to notify you of responses to your inquiry, and never go back there until someone responds to your inquiry. Then, once you have your answer, you never *have* to go back again. so, no one goes there except to a) ask a question or b) read the answer to their question So, just exactly who will be answering? I've been dealing with a forum-based group recently and I find the level of support far below a typical email list. (Yeah, I know, sample size of one and all that.) -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] 536kb image on home page?
As best I can tell the first image on www.xastir.org is 536kb (I know it takes a while to load). That's pretty hefty. On top of that, it doesn't show anything about xastir. $0.02 -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Mapping
On Nov 9, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: Well I managed to download the shapefiles for my county based off of the Tiger map data from ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/Xastir/Maps/TIGER/xastir.tamu.edu/2004/ counties/TN/ That's a good start. Reading over this page http://www.swcp.com/~russo/shape_web/tutorial.htmland it appears that there are a lot of options you can configure, but a little of this was over my head at this point. Well, it so happens that there are already some dbfawk files for the TIGER shapefiles written and in place in the standard xastir distribution, so you don't really have to start from scratch the way Tom's tutorials walk you through. You can find them in /usr/local/ share/xastir/config/tgr*.dbfawk (assuming you installed in /usr/ local/). Use the info on Tom's web site to figure out how to tweak the dbfawk files to behave more like you want. So now that I have some data, I would like to make it look like the original tiger data and dont really know where to begin? Begin by asking _why_ you want it to look like the original TIGER data. (: By original TIGER data I assume you mean the TIGER data as rendered by the TIGER server. The short answer is that it'd be tough. A longer and more useful answer is to look in the dbfawks mentioned earlier and start modifying. You can probably eventually get there. You can also affect how your maps look by changing the background color and the map labels fonts (map - configure). What are all those different files for and how can I start editing this to my liking? The files you mention are the actual data. You generally want to change how that data is rendered (via dbfawks, map properties, and tactics) and not actually change the data. I also have MapInfo data available to me as well as Precision Mapping and Street Atlas, as Darryl mentioned it would be useful if we could somehow use that data as well if xastir supports it? Talk to the vendors about that. Mapping programs are generally somewhere between extremely unhelpful and hostile about use of their data by some other software. There is an APRS application called APRS+SA that's some sort of plugin type app for a very old version of SA (v9, IIRC). Unfortunately it was recommended to our balloonsat project and I have found it to be so frustrating and complex that it is useless. I have been actively campaigning to replace it with xastir (or anything else!) since the first time I used it. APRS+SA convinced me to use a dedicated app like xastir. I have to say this is the most I have ever used xastir and it is the most advanced APRS program I have ever used. Good job devs. hear, hear! -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Multiple Servers
On Oct 23, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Ray Wells wrote: a separate interface declared for each instance? Yep, a separate interface for each APRS-IS server. works fine. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] multiport KISS?
I'm thinking about ways to simplify the connection of multiple devices (TNCs, GPS, etc) - the old one (or no) serial port and 5 devices scenario. Does xastir have full multiport KISS support _without_ ax.25 kernel support? Not all of us run linux... It would be feasible to use a microcontroller to multiplex several devices onto one serial port, assuming the host application knows what to do with the data. It would be nice if this could be done for non-KISS devices, like GPS units, non-KISS TNCs, electronic compasses, DF units, etc. I suppose one cold use the microcontroller to convert everything to KISS. Some scheme for converting a GPS string to a KISS packet (APRS report with a special FROM call?) could probably be done, but that complicates the application for extracting the data. I realize this could be done elsewhere (ie, daemon to handle the de- muxing), but if xastir multiport KISS works or is close, that may be the easiest route. Yes, I know about the HASP hack, but I'm talking about something a bit more generic, handling multiple TNCs in both directions, etc. I'm getting ready for the next balloon chase and my USB hub is dead. Instead of spending $10 on a new hub, this is what I started thinking about. |: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Timing Sliders
On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Robbie, wa9inf wrote: Has this been touched on before? NO labels on any of the sliders for what the slider is setting the time for? seems like this was a motif issue - lesstif vs. openmotif, I can't remember which one is more desirable... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] slimming down dbf files
On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Kyle Kienapfel wrote: I just used a DBF Viewer 2000 from this site to cut a 300mb dbf file down to about 50. I played with this a bit using the shapelib tools on some files (not the TIGER shape files, but can't remember which ones). For the file I was looking at it didn't make much difference. I wanted to look at the TIGER shapefiles because I suspected it could make some difference there, but never got around to it. if I knew which one was used by the shp file, I could cut a few more MB there. Hmm, let's look at a dbfawk for clues. Here's a section of the dbfawk for tgr2shp.dbfawk: BEGIN { # dbfinfo is the signature of the dbf file listing the column names in order. # dbfinfo should match the dbf file that we say this dbfawk file goes with. dbfinfo=MODULE:TLID:SIDE1:SOURCE:FEDIRP:FENAME:FETYPE:FEDIRS:CFCC:FRADD L:TOADDL:FRADDR:TOADDR:FRIADDL:TOIADDL:FRIADDR:TOIADDR:ZIPL:ZIPR:AIANHHF PL:AIANHHFPR:AIHHTLIL:AIHHTLIR:CENSUS1:CENSUS2:STATEL:STATER:COUNTYL:COU NTYR:COUSUBL:COUSUBR:SUBMCDL:SUBMCDR:PLACEL:PLACER:TRACTL:TRACTR:BLOCKL: BLOCKR; #dbffields is which of the above fields we actually want to look at. # No point reading dbffields that are not looked at further. dbffields=TLID:FEDIRP:FENAME:FETYPE:FEDIRS:CFCC; } dbfinfo tells us that a shapefile with the fields indicated in dbfinfo (those names in that order) will be a match for this dbfawk. dbffields tells us that we're only going to look at these fields; all others will be ignored in the dbfawk. My (limited) understanding of dbfawks leads me to think we can eliminate all the fields that are not listed in dbffields, adjust dbfinfo accordingly, and we'll have a smaller file. Why don't you try that and let us know how it goes? (: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] wikipedia on xastir...?
On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Bennett, Bruce wrote: What are folks feelings about an xastir entry in wikipedia? Off hand, I'd say it would only dilute the useful information. There's already an APRS wiki (http://info.aprs.net) and I understand the xastir project home page just got a wiki as well. What we need are all the documentation efforts in one place, so they're more effective. I'd be all for a simple wikipedia entry with links to the xastir wiki, but creating yet another repository will divide efforts. We probably do need an xastir link here, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APRS my $0.02... -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] RE: ref : New, Updated box time - which Linux??
On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Bennett, Bruce wrote: Another choice? Yeah, in the past I have used a PCI serial port card w/4 ports... $$ Which is fine for a desktop, not so practical for a laptop. ): Yeah, I know there are PCMCIA solutions, too. The SI Labs based devices can actually be re-programmed to bear a unique ID, and from that can be made to enumerate in a specific order. This is all a real weak point in the USB drivers. The FTDI drivers for Mac OS X claim that, if the device has a serial number, the driver will use that serial number as the device special file name. I don't have one that's serial numbered, so I have not been able to verify. The FTDI tools for windows claims to be able to serialize a device if it isn't already, but I haven't tried that yet. Offhand, I don't know of an OEM branded USB to serial that uses the SI Labs chip - Not an OEM adapter, but the Sparkfun guys have a breakout board that has a USB B connector, the chip, and some headers for TTL level rs232. I'm using one now to power and interface a PIC/MX614 packet decoder. http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=198 Looks like SparkFun has also picked up an FTDI device: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=718 Both those are assembled breakout boards, but they also have the chips fairly cheap if an SMT chip solves your problems. BG Micro (online surplus place) has a device with the FTDI chipset. They don't advertise it as such, but I have one and found it to be so. http://www.bgmicro.com/prodinfo.asp?prodid=COM1193 I've also seen a device using an FTDI chipset that's 100% enclosed in a USB A connector, with bare wires on the other end for TTL level rs232 as well as +5V and ground from the USB port. I think it was about $15 a copy, but I can't remember where I found it. I realize most of these are parts, not packaged solutions, but if you're building something from a kit or from scratch, or don't care to hack at a piece of equipment, they can make some handy solutions. My favorite part is drawing power from USB, and eliminating both the power cord to the peripheral as well as the voltage regulation from the circuit. In my experimenting I have stumbled across one poor solution that works for Mac OS X: Most of those drivers use something vendor specific in the device special file name, so if you use only one device from each vendor, the names are unique. |: -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] ref : New, Updated box time - which Linux??
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Bennett, Bruce wrote: Now: another question - since true serial ports are scarce, are USB-to-serial converters the way to go?? is there another choice? stay away from Belkin adapters. I've had good luck with Keyspan, and so far one I've played with that's based on the FTDI chipset has performed OK. The big hassle for me is the fact that the device special file name depends on the order in which the OS decides to enumerate the device, and that order can change depend on where it's plugged in as well as other factors. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir