Re: [Xastir] Re: [linuxham] Processors and Linux version
Steve, If you have another computer available, just download the .tgz files needed and put them on a flashdrive and load from there. Another way, that is if you have the capability, get the data over your cellphone data connection. 73 from 807, Richard , N6NKO Steve/WM5Z wrote: Well guys, I got the new computer in today. Wow. I have to say, it is fast. I loaded the 32 bit version of Fedora 9. As usual, I loaded all the programming stuff so that I could install new software. Everything seems to have gone well in this regard. What normally took 45 - 50 minutes was done in 15. I thought maybe I made a mistake somewhere and didn't install all that I should, but I checked the log, and it's all there. I then found my first problem. The processor wasn't recognized by the mother board. Quick fix was to get the latest BIOS from ASUS, and it fixed that. The motherboard comes with a CD for the Linux driver for the network card. Only one problem. The installer wants the header for the Kernel. Since I don't have the NIC working, I can't download the Kernel. So, I thought I'd get it from my other computer (the dell laptop here) and copy it over and install it. But the new computer said I have the wrong header file. I matched the number exactly, but no go. Oh well. I'll work on that later. Then I went to the ASUS web site, where they will install the driver, but guess what, how do you install the driver off their web site if you can't get on line to down load it??? You can only get it either by building the module from files on the CD or go on line and down load it and install from their site. I'll ponder that one. I don't have a telephone modem, or yes, I'd do that. So far though, I am showing all the memory correctly, the processors (dual core) are showing up right, the speed is stepping from 500 MHz through 3000 MHz. The SATA drive reports 120 MBPS throughput and the video is much sharper than I've ever seen on this monitor with either the old PC and Linux or when I first had XP-Pro on it. Thanks to all you guys for your help in helping me make my decisions. If anyone here knows how to fix the NIC problem, I'm sure gonna be grateful. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Tiger 2007 shapefile issue...a beaut
I admit that one point does not make a trend but what I found was eyeopening. I wanted just Fond du Lac county in Wisconsin to use as a base map for mapping project that I am working on ( a Boy Scout campground). I pulled in my files into QGIS and then brought in fe_2007_55039_edges. I did not get Fond du Lac County but a huge overview of north Illinois, Indiana and SE Michigan. OUCH!!! I even went and downloaded a virgin fileset and got the same results (see picture). 55039.png This is not good. I plan on sending on a comment to the Census Bureau. So, let the user beware - YMMV. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] wms radar
Contrary to previously published reports to the contrary, Gerry WILL take vacations. This just points out to the lack of redundancy in systems and their presentations. AFAIK, there is no redundancy for WXSVR or Gerry's servers (direct copy). If you look back in the email archives, there was a string of emails concerning using the NOAA RIDGE system. A couple of us came up with the necessary .geo files to use the radars, both local, regional, or nationwide. I keep several .geo's programmed up and switch to a different feed when there are issues. I am waiting to see if the NWS posts the upgraded radar images for use from the NEXRAD upgrades. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: Let's see... 2 LDAP servers got unhappy, then the big NFS server got locked up (and had a pair of SMART disk errors, one on each of two striped RAIDs). The box 'mesonet.tamu.edu' couldn't get authentication info AND couldn't access images from the NFS server. Another NFS server had system disk block errors. And a 13TB RAID shelf had a single drive 128-byte block error. I'm never taking vacation again. gerry vic wrote: Yea man, working like a champ! Take your time, I just was wondering what was happening. 73 de k4xtt vic On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:41:35 -0500 Gerry Creager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it back? I'm seeing some graphics. Resurrected a lot of hardware today. Lots to do... AFTER Hurricane Bertha is resolved. gerry vic wrote: I really like the font now. I cannot get wms radar images with the current CVS version. Anybody know why? Thanks, Vic -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas AM University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] geotiff includes on Ubuntu 8.03
In the case of my Fedora 8 install, I put in the line -I/usr/include/libgeotiff to get rid of the same message. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:43:20AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: When I build xastir-1.9.3-2008-* on Ubuntu 8.03 the build fails because it cannot find the includes for geotiff. - ./configure reports that it will use geotiff - The compile fails because xtiffio.h and geo_normalize.h cannot be found - If I edit src/Makefile and insert the appropriate includes (i.e., -I) xastir builds without error. - If I try the correct procedure (as indicated ./configure help info) export CPPFLAGS=/usr/include/geotiff That's not the correct procedure. export CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/geotiff is the correct thing. Using what you tried would force invalid arguments into the compilation command line, and result in the error you see. ./configure --without-ax25 --with-geotiff --without-festival ./configure fails very early with the error configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables Is there a better way to tell ./configure the location of the includes? Thanks, Dick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Font warning message
I am running the latest devel release here from a console window and I am getting this message that is font related: Warning: Name: create_appshell text_output2 Class: XmTextField Character '\260' not supported in font. Discarded. I am sure that this message has been there for some time but I never realized it. I know that it is font related and it is looking for something. What is missing or needs to be done? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Font warning message
echo $LANG - en_US.UTF-8 changed LANG = C Issue gone. Running Fedora 8. Hmmm.. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO John Ronan wrote: Hmm, Doesn't this generally mean that the LANG environment variable is set incorrectly for xastir? Try export LANG=C; xastir John On 22 Jun 2008, at 13:27, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I am running the latest devel release here from a console window and I am getting this message that is font related: Warning: Name: create_appshell text_output2 Class: XmTextField Character '\260' not supported in font. Discarded. I am sure that this message has been there for some time but I never realized it. I know that it is font related and it is looking for something. What is missing or needs to be done? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- John Ronan [EMAIL PROTECTED], +353-51-302938 Telecommunications Software Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] comport under andlinux
Check permissions. I would set it to 666 / rw-rw-rw- and see. I have had issues where that is a fix. It is a dangerous fix because of the permission issues, but it is worth the experiment. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote: Guys, I tried to get xastir to talk to my TNC via ttyS0, and it appears to open the port, but I never see any traffic coming in. So I opened the com1 with a windows app and sure enough there's lots of data streaming in. While the windows app was open (tieing up the comport), I tried once again to have xastir open the port and did seems to have opened it even though it should not have. Is there another name for /dev/ttyS0 under andlinux? What am I missing? I see ttys0 in the /dev directory. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] comport under andlinux
Ok, that's not it. Is your serial port hardware or a USB dongle? If a dongle, look at /dev/ttyUSB0. If you have minicom, jump pins 2 and 3 on the port and see if you get data back on your port. At least this would see if linux is seeing the port and able to use it. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote: THanks for the suggestion ls /dev/ttys0 -la shows crw-rw-rw- for permissions. So I guess this isn't it. Wes On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Richard Polivka, N6NKO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check permissions. I would set it to 666 / rw-rw-rw- and see. I have had issues where that is a fix. It is a dangerous fix because of the permission issues, but it is worth the experiment. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote: Guys, I tried to get xastir to talk to my TNC via ttyS0, and it appears to open the port, but I never see any traffic coming in. So I opened the com1 with a windows app and sure enough there's lots of data streaming in. While the windows app was open (tieing up the comport), I tried once again to have xastir open the port and did seems to have opened it even though it should not have. Is there another name for /dev/ttyS0 under andlinux? What am I missing? I see ttys0 in the /dev directory. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Wx Alerts
I haven't run wxalert - RF in some time. There were several people complaining about the traffic on THEIR QUIET channel, plus there were several relays not configured properly in the area and even with one hop request sent out, the messages were bounced all over the place many times. Just try and gate all messages from one WX stn and monitor from there. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Tom Russo wrote: Bleah. That seems like a bad idea to me, given that other log files are meant to be just that. It was the first step in making it possible to have Xastir shut down or crash and being able to start it up with the same info on the screen. Sorry you don't like it. Actually, another possibility is that since the actual value of relatively current is 15 days as hard-coded in util.c's load_wx_alerts_from_log_working_sub, that these ancient alerts are still just considered relative current. It's because there's a 1 to 31 day entry in the weather alerts, so we split the difference and go 15 back only, if possible. There may be holes in the logic as you pointed out, like if weather alerts aren't coming in regularly, there may be both old and new alerts in the same log file. It should skip any log files that have an old timestamp. I've noticed some odd changes in wx alert behavior lately --- most notably, while I *AM* configured to gate WX alerts from net to RF (because our local Igate went down and there is now nobody else doing so in this region), Xastir NEVER gates them anymore, and it used to. I don't igate, so haven't noticed that. It's possible I or someone else broke that quite a while back. I don't think that part of the code has been worked on in some months, but the Changelog should say. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system
Possibly, is there an issue with either Lesstif or OpenMotif? 73 from a very soggy 807, Richard, N6NKO Ray Wells wrote: Alex Carver wrote: --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Curt, WE7U wrote: The main thread does all the graphical stuff. Perhaps the new bulletin popping up is causing a problem with the map updating, or perhaps there's some interaction with your window manager as far as the new bulleting coming up. Remind us what OS, version, and window manager you're using. Maybe somebody else has the same setup and can say whether they do/don't have the same problem. It's a fresh install of Debian Etch using kernel image 2.6.18-6 and the current WM is Gnome version 2.14.3.6. The system is mostly stock right off the install CD and the online repositories. I've only removed applications that aren't needed on the machine which installed by default (games, OpenOffice, etc.). Xastir was compiled from source obtained via CVS. Everything else functions normally. The WM doesn't stop running and I can manipulate other applications as if nothing's happening. Xastir is just simply stuck doing something. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir I run xastir on Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-3 and KDE desktop. I don't normally run with bulletins on and I don't do much map swapping. I haven't observed any problems. Xastir runs about 0.3% processor, rising to 0.7% occasionally. I've just turned bulletins on to see what happens. Ray vk2tv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] still trying to install on Fedora 9
I can't get F9 to install on the T42. Still running F8. I have tried several times using a separate hard drive in the laptop and have had no luck. Now on to modifying xastir to talk intelligently. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Eric Christensen wrote: SUDO YUM INSTALL XASTIR Gerry Creager wrote: Real geeks don't use the GUI to update software;-) gerry kc7zru wrote: Thanks for the heads up on the add remove software changes! Looks like we'll have to go CLI to keep things universal across GUI changes. I've modified the entry in the Wiki to make it work for releases from F7 to F9 - lemme know what you think. FWIW, I've built Xastir on 3 different F9 machines using that Wiki 'checklist' - just never had to install the development stuff. The CVS servers can be slow - very slow - too )@#! slow at times. But they do work, eventually. 73 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, an earlier part of the wiki doesn't work with Fedora 9. The package management is quite different in Fedora 9, and there is no ApplicationsAdd/Remove Software option. Instead we have SystemAdministrationAdd/Remove packages but you have to specify individual packages, not development tools:. Below does not exist: If by chance, you didn't install Fedora with the required development tools, start the 'Add/Remove Software' tool from the Applications Menu. Choose 'Development' and make sure you have the following groups installed: * Development Libraries * Development Tools * Gnome or KDE development (depending on your desktop of choice) * X Software Development I've heard of folks successfully building Xastir on Fedora 9, so I guess I need to find the source somewhere other than cvs? 73 -- john ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Where in code is mesoscale, svt tsm watch and tornado watch boxes processed?
I am trying to mod the code to use festival in a more descriptive way. I just need to know where the above is processed at to add the appropriate hooks. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Map Load Speed
I have to tweak the .dbfawk files to eliminate what I don't want at which magnification. This is where I get the most speedup. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Chip Griffin wrote: Is there a way to speed up the loading of maps? Specifically, when I use the line maps and dbfawk conversions it is wicked slow anytime I am zoomed out beyond 64. The further out, the slower it is. It is about intolerable beyond 128. So generally I keep it zoomed in to 64 or less. Often that is good enough, but for a large scale event (like the one I am to attend this weekend) I would like to see a broader map without sacrificing speed every time I make an adjustment. (I am using a high end Mac laptop for this, so I don't believe it is hardware related.) 73, --de Chip (N1MIE) FN41bn ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] OpenSUSE-10.3: Latest GraphicsMagick is broken
Curt, Check Freshmeat. There is another package out there that is competing with the Image/GraphicsMagick game. It is called ExactImage. You may want to look into it in your spare time ;-) 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: I've been using GM in OpenSuSE-10.3, but the latest online update I got from OpenSuSE broke things. I went back to using ImageMagick. The symptom: Black images for any map in Xastir which uses the GraphicsMagick library for display. The cause: Compiling GM with the default QuantumDepth of 8 instead of 16. If anyone wants to ask SuSE nicely to fix it, ask them to add --with-quantum-depth=16 to the ./configure line in their GraphicsMagick RPM build scripts and then re-release these RPM's: libGraphicsMagick1-1.1.8-20.2 GraphicsMagick-1.1.8-20.2 GraphicsMagick-devel-1.1.8-20.2 libGraphicsMagick++-devel-1.1.8-20.2 libGraphicsMagick++1-1.1.8-20.2 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] SX Blue II GPS
I looked at the brochure for this. There is something that tells me to beware of this. If it sounds to be too good to be true... I know that one time I did a one hour occupation of a HARN monument here in WI with my laptop and my Garmin GPS V. I then brought the data back and did some post-processing and I got within +/- 0.2 meters. I question the antenna. Looks like a fancy covered patch antenna. I really worry about the quality of the data. Besides, it is really that necessary for this kind of accuracy unless you are doing site surveys? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jason KG4WSV wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Lance Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing special here. Oh, I don't know about that - the hat looked pretty special to me. (: Seriously, the 20Hz update rate was interesting, mostly because I'm thinking of some rocket applications. I googled around and found someone with a price listed - $2095 (no, I did _not_ forget the decimal point). -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Current status on using 2007 FE maps at The Owl's Nest...
Currently, these are the maps that I am using: arealm areawater county (state file) edges place (state file) pointlm The rest appear to be census service specific or not of good use for the xastir users at the moment. Map layering of the files is quite important or details get covered up. Gerry Creager received, from me, quantity two of the six DVD set of the complete 2007 FE maps and will put the maps up on his server for downloading Real Soon Now (Gerry, not a slam but an acknowledgment of your current workload). The quality, and consistency of the map data is all over the place. Some counties are well detailed, others look like barren deserts when they are not. Also, be warned that the map sets are storage intensive so it is best to remove the files that are not needed. Your friend here will be qgis to update and maintain the files. I will post the .dbfawk's and the map layering in another posting. One issue I am seeing and I do not know if it is specific to my machine or not is that at magnification numbers 17, area fills are not completing. I do not know if this is something new or an ongoing issue. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] USRadar problems - gm
I use gm on my little radar maps that I download on BigBox. If I use IM, the same process fails after some time. I have several radar map .geo's installed just in case the primary radar site that I use fails. Here is a stretch idea that would take some work to implement. You have three radar sites, primary, secondary, and tertiary. Primary is always used. When an image is grabbed, an MD5SUM is done on the grabbed file. At the next download time, the next file is SUMMed and compared to the previous file. If no change is noted in the sum's, the secondary site is polled. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Gerry Creager wrote: Let me go get GM on the systems in question. Thanks. I have followed the discussions, just hadn't implemented it. You'll need some small changes to run GM functions instead of the IM functions. If I remember correctly you just prefix everything with gm, so everything is the gm command. Something like: gm convert instead of convert Man page will tell you the correct syntax. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Update on TIGER 2007 FE maps...
Here is an update.
Let's start with mapfile organization. For each state, I am putting each
type of file at the county level into its own subdirectory, such as
/usr/local/share/xastir/maps/US/states/WI/arealm and
/usr/local/share/xastir/maps/US/states/WI/areawater. This makes setting
up the map layering easier.
Layer directory
1000 arealm
1001 place (state level file)
1002 areawater
1003 edges
1004 pointlm
1005 county (state level file)
The consistency of these files from county-to-county and state-to-state
is all over the place, so for each state, you may have to do some pick'n
choose. The layering is quite important here. As an example, if there is
a lake within a park and both are colored, the lake is blue and the park
is green, the wrong layering will hide the water.
Also, I recommend installing Quantum GIS (qgis) on your system. This is
a good editor to use on the files. Layer them in the program in the same
above sequence and editing, additions, and subtractions become easy.
That is how I have been filling in all of the missing goodies for here
in Milwaukee County.
Here are the current .dbfawk's that I have use. These are still a
work-in-progress, so be warned.
tgr2007arealm.dbfawk:
# tgr2007arealm.dbfawk
#
# Copyright (C) 2003-2008 The Xastir Group
#
# Census.gov 2007-FE TigerMaps for AREALM
# Richard Polivka, N6NKO - April, 2008
#
#
# This dbfawk file is used to map arbitrary dbf data that accompanies
# a shapefile into Xastir canoncical values of:
# key - search key
# lanes - width of feature (usually a road but applies to rivers,
etc. too)
# color - color to draw the road
# name- name of the road for labels
# filled - whether a polygon is drawn filled or not
# fill_color - color to fill polygon with
# pattern - line pattern for road, river, etc. (0 - solid; 1 - dash; 2
- double dash)
# display_level - highest zoom level at which to display the feature
# label_level - highest zoom level at which to display the label
# symbol - 3 char 'TIO': table, ID, overlay
# NOTE: This file format is modeled after awk but is nowhere near awk
# compatible.
#
# This file is used to map US Census Tiger/Line Shapefiles as available at:
# http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles/national-files
#
# BEGIN is called once per dbf file which contains multiple records.
BEGIN {
# dbfinfo is the signature of the dbf file listing the column names in
order.
# dbfinfo should match the dbf file that we say this dbfawk file goes with.
dbfinfo=STATEFP:COUNTYFP:COUNTYNS:ANSICODE:AREAID:FULLNAME:MTFCC;
#dbffields is which of the above fields we actually want to look at.
# No point reading dbffields that are not looked at further.
dbffields=FULLNAME:MTFCC;
}
# BEGIN_RECORD is called once per dbf record which contains multiple fields.
# Use this rule to re-initialize variables between records.
# use color 11 to highlight stuff that isn't properly mapped.
BEGIN_RECORD {key=; lanes=1; color=6; fill_color=11; name=;
filled=0; pattern=0; display_level=8192; label_level=64; label_color=8;
font_size=0; symbol=; fill_style=0 }
/^FULLNAME=(.*)$/ {name=$1;next}
# item locations
/^MTFCC=C3/ {display_level=64; next}
# water
/^MTFCC=H20/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=97;
fill_color=97; label_color=26; display_level=1024; next}
/^MTFCC=H30/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=97;
fill_color=97; label_color=26; display_level=1024; next}
# buildings
/^MTFCC=K1/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=11;
fill_color=11; label_color=8; label_level=64; display_level=1024;
font_size=1; next}
# public university / school
/^MTFCC=K25/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=4;
fill_color=4; label_color=8; label_level=64; display_level=1024;
font_size=1; next}
# airports
/^MTFCC=K24/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=42;
fill_color=42; label_color=8; label_level=64; display_level=1024;
font_size=1; next}
# parks
/^MTFCC=K2/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=35;
fill_color=35; label_color=8; label_level=64; display_level=1024;
font_size=1; next}
# private / religious school
/^MTFCC=K35/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=1; color=4;
fill_color=4; label_color=8; label_level=64; display_level=1024; ;
font_size=1; next}
# PLCC
/^MTFCC=L/ {display_level=64; next}
# legal / statistical boundary
/^MTFCC=P0001/ {display_level=64; next}
# water shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0002/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# water intermittent shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0003/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# non-visible boundary
/^MTFCC=P0004/ {display_level=64; next}
# railroad
/^MTFCC=R/ {lanes=1; color=8; pattern=1; display_level=128; next}
# Limited access road
/^MTFCC=S11/ {lanes=4; color=4; label_level=512; font_size=3; next}
# secondary road
/^MTFCC=S12/ {display_level=1024; lanes=3; color=8; label_level=256;
font_size=2; next}
# local road
[Xastir] Progress with 2007 FE shapefiles
All, I have managed to get this mapset quite usable. To wit, I will be posting the .dbfawk's to the group presently. I just have to clean up the lines to make them a bit more presentable. One drawback is how inconsistent the data is from one county to another. Some counties have bounteous information and others in the same state are barren yet the features exist. I will be sending the complete set of maps to Gerry Creager for him to install on his servers for distribution. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] A rant on the shapefiles...
I have to thank the authors/contributors to Quantum GIS. This program is proving to be quite useful in editing the TIGER 2007 FE shapefiles. There is s much missing from Milwaukee county, it is unbelievable. I am just using it on my laptop but I can see where BigBox with its three eyes can be an asset to this. I am wondering who participated in getting these maps made? Was it state, county, feds? It really does not matter, I am laid up with a flu bug so I have been playing to keep from going wacky. I am not one who likes being ill but the legs just don't want to cooperate too long walking. Mr. Creager - I realize that you have offered to be a repository of the shapefiles. How about making a subdirectory contributed where we, as a group, can put in updated shapefiles as they are cleaned up, augmented, whatever? The feds have supplied the basics, now we have an opportunity to make the products USEFUL. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO P.S.: Dreaming of qty 4 of 21 1280x1024 flatpanel monitors on BigBox ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] A rant on the shapefiles...
I have to agree that they are a start and people use them for more than what the initial intent was. That is why I have taken to editing what I have so the maps I have will be more useful. I am finding that even the maps issued by the cities and county here are inaccurate as well, missing important info such as local parks, creeks, etc. Now to go and walk around a bit - can't sit too long. Plus the dog is dreaming. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I am wondering who participated in getting these maps made? Was it state, county, feds? Blame the census takers. Feds. Federalies. Men in black? For the purpose of taking the every-10-year federal census they've kept track of roads. Unfortunately the census-takers haven't had any cartography training (hey, it's really not their job, right?). The maps were not intended to be used for the purposes people put them to. That philosophy is changing a bit lately and they're trying to do a better job on the data. I suspect Gerry or Tom can fill us in on the details, but that's my vague recollection. Even with that less than stellar cartography start, they're awfully nice road maps, and free. Hard to beat that in most other countries! Many of the commercial mapping programs start with Tiger data as their base and add to/correct it. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] sample dbfawk files for 2007-FE census maps
After spending a lot of time getting square eyeballs working on this, in
between pages from work, here appears to be a good starting point for
these files. I realize that there may be some tweaking necessary, so try
them out and post suggestions for changes.
file: tgr2007arealm.dbfawk:
# tgr2007arealm.dbfawk
#
# Copyright (C) 2003-2008 The Xastir Group
#
# Census.gov 2007-FE TigerMaps for AREALM
# Richard Polivka, N6NKO - April, 2008
#
#
# This dbfawk file is used to map arbitrary dbf data that accompanies
# a shapefile into Xastir canoncical values of:
# key - search key
# lanes - width of feature (usually a road but applies to rivers,
etc. too)
# color - color to draw the road
# name- name of the road for labels
# filled - whether a polygon is drawn filled or not
# fill_color - color to fill polygon with
# pattern - line pattern for road, river, etc. (0 - solid; 1 - dash; 2
- double dash)
# display_level - highest zoom level at which to display the feature
# label_level - highest zoom level at which to display the label
# symbol - 3 char 'TIO': table, ID, overlay
# NOTE: This file format is modeled after awk but is nowhere near awk
# compatible.
#
# This file is used to map US Census Tiger/Line Shapefiles as available at:
# http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles/national-files
#
# BEGIN is called once per dbf file which contains multiple records.
BEGIN {
# dbfinfo is the signature of the dbf file listing the column names in
order.
# dbfinfo should match the dbf file that we say this dbfawk file goes with.
dbfinfo=STATEFP:COUNTYFP:COUNTYNS:ANSICODE:AREAID:FULLNAME:MTFCC;
#dbffields is which of the above fields we actually want to look at.
# No point reading dbffields that are not looked at further.
dbffields=FULLNAME:MTFCC;
}
# BEGIN_RECORD is called once per dbf record which contains multiple fields.
# Use this rule to re-initialize variables between records.
# use color 11 to highlight stuff that isn't properly mapped.
BEGIN_RECORD {key=; lanes=1; color=6; fill_color=11; name=;
filled=0; pattern=0; display_level=8192; label_level=32; label_color=8;
font_size=0; symbol=; fill_style=0 }
/^FULLNAME=(.*)$/ {name=$1;next}
# item locations
/^MTFCC=C3/ {display_level=0; next}
# water
/^MTFCC=H20/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=2; color=117;
fill_color=117; label_color=26; display_level=1024;}
/^MTFCC=H30/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=2; color=117;
fill_color=117; label_color=26; display_level=1024;}
# buildings
/^MTFCC=K/ {display_level=0; next}
# PLCC
/^MTFCC=L/ {display_level=0; next}
# legal / statistical boundary
/^MTFCC=P0001/ {display_level=0; next}
# water shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0002/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# water intermittent shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0003/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# non-visible boundary
/^MTFCC=P0004/ {display_level=0; next}
# railroad
/^MTFCC=R/ {lanes=1; color=8; pattern=1; display_level=128; next}
# Limited access road
/^MTFCC=S11/ {lanes=4; color=4; label_level=512; font_size=3; next}
# secondary road
/^MTFCC=S12/ {display_level=1024; lanes=3; color=8; label_level=256;
font_size=2; next}
# local road
/^MTFCC=S14/ {display_level=256; label_level=16; color=40; lanes=1; next}
# 4WD off-road trail
/^MTFCC=S15/ {lanes=2; color=40; display_level=64; font_size=1; next}
# Freeway access / service drive
/^MTFCC=S16/ {color=40; display_level=64; next}
# walkway / stairway
/^MTFCC=S17[12]/ {lanes=1; color=12; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# alley / private road
/^MTFCC=S17[34]/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# bike / bridle path
/^MTFCC=S18/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# road median
/^MTFCC=S20/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# just a demo of the END_RECORD and END rules:
#END_RECORD {name=$name ($key);}
#END {}
--
file: tgr2007areawater.dbfawk
# tgr2007areawater.dbfawk
#
# Copyright (C) 2003-2008 The Xastir Group
#
# Census.gov 2007-FE TigerMaps for AREAWATER
# Richard Polivka, N6NKO - April, 2008
#
#
# This dbfawk file is used to map arbitrary dbf data that accompanies
# a shapefile into Xastir canoncical values of:
# key - search key
# lanes - width of feature (usually a road but applies to rivers,
etc. too)
# color - color to draw the road
# name- name of the road for labels
# filled - whether a polygon is drawn filled or not
# fill_color - color to fill polygon with
# pattern - line pattern for road, river, etc. (0 - solid; 1 - dash; 2
- double dash)
# display_level - highest zoom level at which to display the feature
# label_level - highest zoom level at which to display the label
# symbol - 3 char 'TIO': table, ID, overlay
# NOTE: This file format is modeled after awk but is nowhere near awk
# compatible.
#
# This file is used to map US Census Tiger
Error fix: Re: [Xastir] sample dbfawk files for 2007-FE census maps
I did an oops. On the H20 and H30 lines, I forgot the ; next at the
ends. I do not know if that will affect the parsing but is should be
there anyway. I have also made some changes today to these and I will
post them when I am finished.
Also, thanks to Tom Hayward and the others for providing the seeds to
this project.
I will be sending the DVD's of the 2007FE files to Gerry Creager
presently for him to install on his systems.
73 from 807,
Richard, N6NKO
Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:
After spending a lot of time getting square eyeballs working on this,
in between pages from work, here appears to be a good starting point
for these files. I realize that there may be some tweaking necessary,
so try them out and post suggestions for changes.
file: tgr2007arealm.dbfawk:
# tgr2007arealm.dbfawk
#
# Copyright (C) 2003-2008 The Xastir Group
#
# Census.gov 2007-FE TigerMaps for AREALM
# Richard Polivka, N6NKO - April, 2008
#
#
# This dbfawk file is used to map arbitrary dbf data that accompanies
# a shapefile into Xastir canoncical values of:
# key - search key
# lanes - width of feature (usually a road but applies to rivers,
etc. too)
# color - color to draw the road
# name- name of the road for labels
# filled - whether a polygon is drawn filled or not
# fill_color - color to fill polygon with
# pattern - line pattern for road, river, etc. (0 - solid; 1 - dash;
2 - double dash)
# display_level - highest zoom level at which to display the feature
# label_level - highest zoom level at which to display the label
# symbol - 3 char 'TIO': table, ID, overlay
# NOTE: This file format is modeled after awk but is nowhere near awk
# compatible.
#
# This file is used to map US Census Tiger/Line Shapefiles as
available at:
# http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles/national-files
#
# BEGIN is called once per dbf file which contains multiple records.
BEGIN {
# dbfinfo is the signature of the dbf file listing the column names
in order.
# dbfinfo should match the dbf file that we say this dbfawk file goes
with.
dbfinfo=STATEFP:COUNTYFP:COUNTYNS:ANSICODE:AREAID:FULLNAME:MTFCC;
#dbffields is which of the above fields we actually want to look at.
# No point reading dbffields that are not looked at further.
dbffields=FULLNAME:MTFCC;
}
# BEGIN_RECORD is called once per dbf record which contains multiple
fields.
# Use this rule to re-initialize variables between records.
# use color 11 to highlight stuff that isn't properly mapped.
BEGIN_RECORD {key=; lanes=1; color=6; fill_color=11; name=;
filled=0; pattern=0; display_level=8192; label_level=32;
label_color=8; font_size=0; symbol=; fill_style=0 }
/^FULLNAME=(.*)$/ {name=$1;next}
# item locations
/^MTFCC=C3/ {display_level=0; next}
# water
/^MTFCC=H20/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=2; color=117;
fill_color=117; label_color=26; display_level=1024;}
/^MTFCC=H30/ {filled=1; fill_style=2; fill_stipple=2; color=117;
fill_color=117; label_color=26; display_level=1024;}
# buildings
/^MTFCC=K/ {display_level=0; next}
# PLCC
/^MTFCC=L/ {display_level=0; next}
# legal / statistical boundary
/^MTFCC=P0001/ {display_level=0; next}
# water shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0002/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# water intermittent shoreline
/^MTFCC=P0003/ {display_level=1240; color=9; fill_color=9; next}
# non-visible boundary
/^MTFCC=P0004/ {display_level=0; next}
# railroad
/^MTFCC=R/ {lanes=1; color=8; pattern=1; display_level=128; next}
# Limited access road
/^MTFCC=S11/ {lanes=4; color=4; label_level=512; font_size=3; next}
# secondary road
/^MTFCC=S12/ {display_level=1024; lanes=3; color=8; label_level=256;
font_size=2; next}
# local road
/^MTFCC=S14/ {display_level=256; label_level=16; color=40; lanes=1; next}
# 4WD off-road trail
/^MTFCC=S15/ {lanes=2; color=40; display_level=64; font_size=1; next}
# Freeway access / service drive
/^MTFCC=S16/ {color=40; display_level=64; next}
# walkway / stairway
/^MTFCC=S17[12]/ {lanes=1; color=12; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# alley / private road
/^MTFCC=S17[34]/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# bike / bridle path
/^MTFCC=S18/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# road median
/^MTFCC=S20/ {lanes=1; color=40; pattern=2; display_level=64; next}
# just a demo of the END_RECORD and END rules:
#END_RECORD {name=$name ($key);}
#END {}
--
file: tgr2007areawater.dbfawk
# tgr2007areawater.dbfawk
#
# Copyright (C) 2003-2008 The Xastir Group
#
# Census.gov 2007-FE TigerMaps for AREAWATER
# Richard Polivka, N6NKO - April, 2008
#
#
# This dbfawk file is used to map arbitrary dbf data that accompanies
# a shapefile into Xastir canoncical values of:
# key - search key
# lanes - width of feature (usually a road but applies to rivers,
etc. too)
# color - color to draw the road
# name- name of the road
Re: [Xastir] Slashgeo | TIGER Data Finally Out SHP Format
Well, BigBox did its job. All 22 GB of downloaded .zip files. I don't want to think how much space they will take up completely unzipped. I don't need to throw WD some money yet... Since I have the duty phone and I am kinda tied with that leash, now to see if I can get them to work here using Tom's dbfawk file. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: Only if I had time. I've systems that are misbehaving. Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: Naw, I am just going to go down into my mancave and pine away at the new files.with a sliver of hope of grabbing them all today. Woodn't you too? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: We wouldnt want you bored, now would we? Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: And I just downloaded all of the NOW old US files. So goes my life. Now to write another script... 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: http://technology.slashgeo.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/01/1055250 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Slashgeo | TIGER Data Finally Out SHP Format
Naw, I am just going to go down into my mancave and pine away at the new files.with a sliver of hope of grabbing them all today. Woodn't you too? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: We wouldnt want you bored, now would we? Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: And I just downloaded all of the NOW old US files. So goes my life. Now to write another script... 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: http://technology.slashgeo.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/01/1055250 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature Request re: Shapefile maps
All, A script could be written and run under root/sudo privileges that does the WGET, then puts in zero length files as placeholders if there are no files present in the download package. Xastir would have to accept zero length as a legit file. Now, there would have to be some way of forcing a map regen to update these files. I know that when I get down to county level, the rendering does take a bit. This would be a good help at displaying SBW's since they are not coming over WXSVR, at least here. Now back to my Irish Coffee. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: Lemme get off 4 days of spring break and I'll push it your way tomorrow morning. Sorry for the delay but between honey-do's, allergies, and wanting to make sure it's behaving properly, I want the delay... gerry Eric Germann wrote: What's your WMS address for each of these? EKG Gerry Creager wrote: I need to look into this and see if I can produce something similar. Ken Waters does these for storm-based warnings. I currently have a WFS that handles this but I don't generate shapes. I can also provide WMS for these. gerry Eric Germann wrote: I'm experimenting with the GIS maps from the NWS at http://www.nws.noaa.gov/regsci/gis/shapefiles/ They work, with one caveat: They don't show up in the Map Chooser (even on a map re-scan) if they have 0 shapes in the shape file. Is there any way, or a pointer to the code to fix it myself and submit a diff back, where this is handled. To get around it, I copied a shape file with polygons over it to the same file, did a rescan so they show up, then put them back after I selected them. Essentially, in this case, the map chooser should consider a 0 shape shapefile valid. This is a fun one to reproduce because the source files at NWS are changed on a 1 minute basis. Which leads to second question, does Xastir automatically re-render these when they change or is there something I need to do to make it so. Thanks EKG N1ICS ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS maps and geo files
Scott, You may be looking at the wrong file on the server. Here is the .geo that I have for that site: #[JGX_N0R - produced from .gfw file by K1KWP - 2006-07-18] URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/JGX_N0R_0.gif TIEPOINT 0 0 -85.9106 35.0210 TIEPOINT 600 550 -80.7828 30.3205 IMAGESIZE 600 550 REFRESH 720 Change this line URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/JGX_N0R_0.gif; to read URL http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/JGX_N0R_0.gif;. This directs xastir to get the picture from the load sharing server. Good luck, Richard, N6NKO Scott Nolde N4CI wrote: I'm having a little difficulty viewing NWS maps. I've created a .geo file in my maps/Online directory which looks like this: URL http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/N0R/JGX_N0R_0.gif TIEPOINT1 1 -85.910617 35.020961 TIEPOINT600 550 -80.782832 30.320491 IMAGESIZE 600 550 REFRESH 300 TRANSPARENT 0x0 #OPTIONAL PARAMS GAMMA 2 #CONTRAST 0.5 #NEGATE #EQUALIZE #NORMALIZE #LEVEL #eof It seems I'm missing something fundamental when I try to view the map. It seems xastir doesn't fetch the map and it won't display the gif in the same directory. My user running xastir has read+write permissions to the online directory, also. Can anyone point to a how-to or provide some assistance in troubleshooting this? Thanks much, Scott, N4CI ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Portable operation of T42 to internet via BT and smartphone
Here is a process that I am sure can be adapted for connecting to the internet with you laptop using BT. This works for me on my IBM T42, Fedora 8, Cingular 8525 smartphone, and bluetooth. I suggest that you get an unlimited data plan or the cellphone carrier will eat your bones for an appetizer. --- Process to connect to internet using IBM Thinkpad T42, Fedora 8 KDE, and Cingular/ATT 8525 (HTC) smartphone running WM6 Documents used: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_setup_Bluetooth Linux kernel source tree (=2.6.22) under Documentation/thinkpad_acpi.txt http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/09/21/rediscovering-bluetooth.html?page=last Make sure that all the bluetooth programs are installed: kdebluetooth-libs, bluez-libs, kdebluetooth, bluez-utils, kmobiletools, bluez-hcidump, bluez-libs-devel, kdebluetooth-devel, and dependencies. Set up bluetooth operation per the thinkpad-acpi.txt documentation. The default acpi-mask does not allow for Fn-F5 to turn on/off bluetooth. Put these files in make life easier using a root shell: /etc/acpi/actions/bluetooth.sh (permissions 755): #!/bin/bash # # Bluetooth on/off control # if [ -e /tmp/bluetooth ] then echo enable /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth touch /tmp/bluetooth else echo disable /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth rm /tmp/bluetooth fi /etc/acpi/events/bluetooth.conf (permissions 744): # # Bluetooth control # event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1005 action=/etc/acpi/actions/bluetooth.sh I also forced /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hotkey_mask equal to /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hotkey_bios_mask. This allows fn-F5 to toggle bluetooth on/off and has the added benefit of turning off the gray button display box in the center of the screen when you hit a hotkey. The setup is done by editing /etc/rc.d/init.d/acpid under the start, restart, and condrestart section with the following line: cat /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hotkey_bios_mask /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hotkey_mask This line is inserted before the ;; line in each of the above mentioned sections. I also created a read-only file /etc/bluetooth/pin with my pin number. I also edited /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf passkey to be the same number as in /etc/bluetooth/pin. After the above changes, you can restart acpid to update its operation. Start kbluetooth. Turn on bluetooth on the Thinkpad and on the smartphone. Don't forget to make the smartphone discoverable and the laptop discoverable. In the same root shell, do an hcitool scan to find the hardware id of the smartphone. For the rest of this document, we will call the hardware ID of the smartphone xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx. We will need this ID number later to do the pairing. Now on the smartphone, go to Internet Sharing and set it up for Bluetooth PAN and MEdia Net. Hit connect and let the phone register itself to the cellular network. When the phone indicates that the network connection is complete, you can continue on. Now enter the command sdptool add NAP. This allows the service to be used. The following command pand --role PANU --service NAP --connect xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx will do a couple of things: 1) Allow for pairing, and 2) set up the data connection. You will be asked for the PIN numbers on both the smartphone and laptop. Enter the appropriate numbers and this will complete the pairing. Both the smartphone and the laptop should remember the pairing for future use. Once the pairing is done, turn off discovery on both the laptop and the smartphone as it will not be necessary unless you break the pairing. After completing the pairing, you need to give the created interface an address. I use ifconfig bnep0 192.168.1.1. Now that the laptop is given an address, we need to get the rest of the needed routing information. Issue the command dhclient bnep0 and that should get you on the air and running when the command prompt returns. To disconnect the connection, just go to Internet Sharing and disconnect. The pairing will drop and you will be disconnected from the internet. A warning to the wise - You had better have the unlimited internet package or expect a huge bill. You can also power the smartphone from the laptop via USB by making sure that START SETTINGS USB to PC has the advanced network functionality option not selected. This will save the battery in the smartphone. This process may work for other combinations but the process should be pretty much the same. Good Luck and happy surfing. -- Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Did WXSVR go toes up?
Appears to be dead. No messages here on two feeds here. Jus' waitin' on the ugly stuff to move in... 43 out now, -5 tonight, mix of snow, high winds, bad windchills. Hopefully, no twisters. I am so glad that I have a brick house to insulate against the winds. Most homes here are wood siding and leak like sieves. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] online radar
Some time ago, a group of us took the RIDGE radars and created .geo's for them. If you do a search in the archives, you may find the messages that relate to them and put them into your map database. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Kurt Freiberger wrote: I just talked to Gerry, and he will look at it later tonight, as soon as the current crisis abates. 73/Kurt Ryan Tourge wrote: It seems the online radar images from http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/ have stopped updating. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Terraserver problems with map registration
Yup, I have cycles to burn. BigBox is running three monitors across at 1280x1024 each (effective 3840x1024) as one desktop. I do have another free video port to add another monitor 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Bob Donnell wrote: I was discussing this with Curt on IM, and had the thought that once the absolute limits are known, that the code performing terraserver requests should evaluate the window size xastir's running in, then form a sub-scale request appropriately and then upscale the returned image after the fact Most of us with high resolution displays wouldn't often notice if the image request was scaled to 50% then the returned image was scaled to 200%. If the window is more than 3 times the limit, do it to 1/3 and 3x scaling, etc. So the idea is to downscale the requests to something terraserver will reliably return all of, and then upscale it on the local PC. I guess the main idea is that by scaling our requests, we control how much complexity is involved in rescaling the returned image. So integer amounts and even percentages, like 40%, 50%, 75%, 80%, etc. reduces a lot of the scaling tasks to simple integer math. Besides, anyone running that big a screen must have cycles to burn grin It also occurs to me that this might be a file size limit, vs. a pixel count limit, so the returned image size may be related to that - though from their end, it'd be a lot easier to code a pixel count limit. If file size was the limit, then the file size could vary due to compression factors and how much detail is present. 73, Bob, KD7NM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Russo Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:36 AM To: Curt, WE7U Cc: Xastir@xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Terraserver problems with map registration On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Curt, WE7U wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Curt, WE7U wrote: At 1410x950 it looks ok. If I go much bigger in either direction the registration gets knocked out of whack in the E/W direction. Looks like 1410x992 is the limit. Go over that by one pixel in either direction and it's off. Hmmm. Can go up to 1408x1109 and it's fine too. Must be larger vertically before it can go larger horizontally? The issue is entirely that the file requested is too large for terraserver to agree to serve. It is likely not a fixed pixel limit, since jpg compression probably allows some pizel-wise larger images to be smaller byte-wise than others. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] .xbm update
As it stands at the moment: alert, blo snow, dense fog, flood, freeze, frost, heat, heavy snow, marine, red flag, snow, severe thunderstorm, severe weather, tornado, wind chill wind winter weather I also have one for Child Abduction done but I am not sure if WXSVR spits those out. Since I can't find a list of what WXSVR puts out, if anyone knows of any other messages that come out that I have not covered, just post to the list or send to me. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Reciprocal call signs
I don't think there would be an issue here in the US. The limitation is in the protocol. The comment field can carry the fully qualified callsign and since, at least here, the id packet should be sent every ten minutes, or less. That would meet the US requirement. I am not sure what the ID requirement are in New Zealand but if the ID time is set appropriately, there should be no issue. But then again , always contact the licensing authority or ham club for more accurate information. Good luck on the solar race and have a hot, clear, sunny day. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Joe Veldhuis wrote: The AX.25 spec limits the call to 6 alphanumeric characters plus one byte for SSID, so that's not a limitation of Xastir. Your friend's best bet is to put his full callsign in the station comment field. -Joe, N8FQ On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:32:41 -0600 Tate Belden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a bit of a situation. College kid I've been working with for a few years is currently in New Zeland. He's going to be going to Austrailia to race a solar powered vehicle here in a few weeks. He wants to use Xastir and a tracker to follow what's going on. BUT, he can't get his reciprocal call sign into the station config dialog. He wants to use KE7ESD/ZL-15 - and that's too many characters. Is there an easy way to change that - even if just for his copy - or maybe a separate SSID box or reciprocal box? You guys are the pros - I just come up with problems. Thanks! Tate ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Question about APRS GPS position precision
Jim, Most GPS units are good to 4 decimals. Any higher precision requires post-processing or L1/L2 reception (not avail in consumer equipment). When you factor in multipath and all the other variables, 4 decimals is quite good but it takes time and patience - think searching for a geocache in a forest. Plus, at four decimals, on a patch antenna minus ground plane, it is quite unstable. Plus, I have a feeling that when Bob B. designed APRS, he was not looking at this being used for what we are doing. Until the data output is smoother and better accuracy, five decimals in - broadcast 4 - rewrite the standard, this may be the best for now. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jim Tolbert wrote: Hi, all.. I have been told that the limiting factor in position precision is the APRS system transmission standard-- that transmissions are limited to 1/1000th of a degree or approximately +/- 60 feet. Is this true? If so, why? If not, what is the limiting element in the final display of tracker position on Xastir? For those of you using Xastir for Search Rescue, do you run on the APRS frequency or a different (quiet) frequency? What are the arguments for each school of thought? We are going to be running some field tests in the near future with a variety of equipment setups does anyone have suggestions of things we should test? We have a list, but new ideas and comments would be appreciated from those that have already taken the stumblesgrin. Many thanx.. jt ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Navteq was bought -was- Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
Nokia bought Navteq for $6.8B US, either this week or last week. Now the fun begins 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:53:12PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Google and Mapquest get their basemaps, if memory serves, from Navtech. No one seriously uses Tiger anymore for real applications. After USGS migrated to SDTS format Tiger was the only decent alternative, for some low value of decent. It was based on the original USGS maps, regardless of what Census told you. However, Census munges them for their purposes (census work, interestingly enough) and effectively renders them less than adequate for real mapping. In other words, These maps should come with a consumer product safety warning. And this is the last year that TIGER/Line data will be released in that format. According to their web site, they will start releasing the Census maps in shapefile format --- but from the looks of it, these shapefiles will NOT be very useful for the purpose of drawing road maps. The dbf fields they plan to include are very clearly designed solely for census purposes, and they will be missing a lot of the data that we rely on for rendering. Lee Bengston wrote: On 10/5/07, Jason Winningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote: http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ Ah, this is more like it. At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels). Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing, vector maps based on TIGER data. Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the mac. Oh well, another one bites the dust. I wasn't able to get the roadnav deb package to install in andLinux, but I was able to compile it from source after installing wxwidgets from the ubuntu respository. Not a bad program - with the Tiger maps, they are labeling the highways better, and I like they way they display the minor streets at high zoom levels. However, it's the same old TigerMap problem at intermediate zoom levels - either no street labels at all or labels in a very tiny hard to read font depending on the exact zoom. The same view in Google, Mapquest, etc. shows the street names clearly. I don't care about looking really slick like Google does, but street labels that I can read are important. But the above is in the context of XASTIR and seeing APRS stations in certain views. Using Roadnav on a trip should be fine - can zoom in or out as needed - only need to track one vehicle. Overall I would say it's a pretty nice package. Lee-K5DAT Murphy, TX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas AM University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
I just put in the FC2 version on my F7 machine and backed out lesstif-devel. I ended up having to create a symlink for the shared libraries and all is running fine. Even the slider bars appear to be fine. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Lee Bengston wrote: Thanks, I guess I won't be in a hurry to upgrade to 10.3. On 10/6/07, David Flood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are cleaned up. Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast. Dave KD7MYC -Original Message- *From:* Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45 *To:* David Flood *Cc:* xastir@xastir.org *Subject:* Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3 or another way to downgrade OpenMotif... ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Adding two more .xbm's and code...
These have not been rolled into the code or CVS. I have used the latest CVS code as the base. I can email the new .xbm's and the modified map_shp.c to you if you wish. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tate Belden wrote: Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I am going to be adding more code and xbm's to support FROST and FREEZE issuances. That will give me something to do between the honeydo listS today. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO EXCELLENT! We've been forecast to have our first possible frosts tonite at elevations for the season. Perfect timing! Thanks! 73 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] latest CVS...issue with map_tif.c
/usr/local/include is where the directory and/or files are put for geotiff if locally compiled and not assigned a home during ./configure, IIRC. I have been pulling them from the Fedora repository testing for consistency of code over distributions because the creators/compilers of the RPM's assign the destinations to different, yet legal, locations. All of my support files/directories have come from the repository. They place the files into /usr/include/geotiff/ in this case. Just a minor issue but after the change, all compiled and runs just fine. Now to drag my tired, battered body the salt mines for more self-inflicted abuse. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tate Belden wrote: Richard Polivka wrote: Fedora 7 Can't find either 'xtiffio.h' or 'geo_normalize.h' and bombs out on compile. I had to precede both with 'libgeotiff/' to work. Files were in /usr/include/libgeotiff. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Mmm, running F7 here too. No problems at all. Just did a new CVS download and bootstrap to be sure. I setup this box using the Fedora HowTo on the wiki, my xtiffio.h and geo_normalize.h are in /usr/local/include - not /usr/include/libgeotiff/ http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:Fedora Maybe add /usr/include/libgeotiff to your /etc/ld.so.conf file and re-run ldconfig. 73 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] maps help
Sounds like you have BUGGY software... 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO PS: Gerry, I get to work from home all this week. Gerry Creager wrote: I'm having significant RAID issues of late . ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)
GraphicsMagickis the same rev level that I use on the T42 (Fedora 7) ImageMagick 6.3.2 also. Sounds like your pkg of GM/IM was not compiled with the support because mine is working just fine. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Andrew Rich wrote: GraphicsMagick-1.1.7-24 ImageMagick-6.3.0.0-16 ImageMagick-Magick++-6.3.0.0-16 ImageMagick-devel-6.3.0.0-16 Andrew Rich VK4TEC [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tech-software.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Polivka, N6NKO Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2007 9:51 AM To: Curt Mills, WE7U Cc: XASTIR list Subject: Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama) Out of curiosity, was the GM precompiled and if so what package was it from? This is for the good of the group. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, John Ronan wrote: also 'upgrade' to GraphicsMagick. After doing so (using --quantum-depth=16) I get Magick: No decode delegate for this image format (). I've been playing with the different mapping types (seeing as I can use them), and I get this message when I enable TXRadar.geo and some of the others. map.png: PNG image data, 6000 x 2500, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced I've added compiled and install libpng so thats there. You may need to reconfigure/recompille GM and make sure it has PNG support. -- Curt, WE7U: www.eskimo.com/~archer/ XASTIR: www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. -- unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 24/08/2007 2:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 24/08/2007 2:59 PM ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)
Out of curiosity, was the GM precompiled and if so what package was it from? This is for the good of the group. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, John Ronan wrote: also 'upgrade' to GraphicsMagick. After doing so (using --quantum-depth=16) I get Magick: No decode delegate for this image format (). I've been playing with the different mapping types (seeing as I can use them), and I get this message when I enable TXRadar.geo and some of the others. map.png: PNG image data, 6000 x 2500, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced I've added compiled and install libpng so thats there. You may need to reconfigure/recompille GM and make sure it has PNG support. -- Curt, WE7U: www.eskimo.com/~archer/ XASTIR: www.xastir.org Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. -- unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Someone is sending out bad data...
This may be a repeat of a previous issue but xastir is spewing this out
today ...
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH: 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH: 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH: 24,-179
extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) Center of MaxConcern
}d0df e e e XKe {CEbAH: 24,-179
Unfortunately, this is all I am getting out of it. Now, what debug level
should I turn on to find out where the bogus data is coming from?
73 from 807,
Richard, N6NKO
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[Xastir] CAE - add to display?
Child Abduction Emergency - Amber Alert I know that the NWS is now disseminating this product. Can Dale pass on these and Xastir use the county fill and display a red Amber Alert? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Wild weather packets...
Messages from KAKQ (Virginia) are coming out in the Atlantic ocean. Maybe WXSVR has taken a flight of fancy. Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Weather Alert Symbol triggers.
Corby, The tornado.xbm will only display if there is a Tornado Warning present, plus there should be a yellow polygon around the warning area. A tornado watch should generate a red/black hash outline box around the watch area. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Corby Krick wrote: Hey all. We're in a tornado watch until 2200 CST 20 August 2007. While I can see a box around the watch area if I zoom out enough, should I be seeing the tornado.xbm graphic overlaid on my map? Corby Krick K0SKW, Omaha, NE ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] listserver back up --- wxsvr not available...
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Re: [Xastir] .xbm done for DENSE_FOG plus other info...
Eric,
The code, from what I see, can be prioritized. Last night, I had two up
at once over Chicago - Svr Tstorm and Tornado. If they can be
consistently layered, the need for priority goes out the window. The
layering would allow for showing all warnings that are active for the area.
73 from 807,
Richard, N6NKO
Eric H Christensen wrote:
Shouldn't there be a way to prioritize them? For example, the Thunderstorm
Warning should be trumped by the Tornado Warning. I think UIV had a
prioritization scheme that showed the color for the highest alert and then on
mouse over would show all of the alerts for that particular county.
73s,
Eric W4OTN
Just completed the .xbm for DENSE_FOG.
Now this message and HEAT (ADVIS and WARN) both appear to use the zone
areas...
# 1186362239 Sun Aug 05 20:03:59 CDT 2007
ILNNPWAPRS::NWS_WARN
:061000z,HEAT,INZ50-58-59-66-7375-80-KYZ8998-OHZ6062-7072-78-79 {600BB
# 1186362275 Sun Aug 05 20:04:35 CDT 2007
AFCNPWAPRS::NWS_ADVIS:061145z,DENSE_FOG,AKZ131 {5NdAB
I wonder if this is why HEAT did not show up?
Heading to bed so,
73 from 807,
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Re: [Xastir] .xbm done for DENSE_FOG plus other info...
Jason, I can redo the .xbm's to allow for the dithering and proper stacking. The ones that I created were built to fill in the gaps. I can go through them and make sure that they will properly stack and not obliterate. Something to do while in my lazyboy listening to classical music enjoying a week off from the salt mines. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jason Winningham wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Eric H Christensen wrote: Shouldn't there be a way to prioritize them? For example, the Thunderstorm Warning should be trumped by the Tornado Warning. The current xbm's that I put together would stack - the text was placed so that text from one wouldn't go on top of text from another, in the case of multiples. There were some exceptions, I think - maybe red flag (a fire type warning, IIRC) would overlay winter_wx or winter storm if they happen to occur at the same time. If you want to extend that design, it may be time to add a third line and extend the dithering on the existing files, just to keep everything consistent. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] HEAT is now working...
Found that I did not have the correct zone maps installed on the laptop. Heat advisories are now showing up. This is now a good thing. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] HEAT is now working...
Eric, Right now, Missouri is quite filled up in RED HEAT 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Eric Christensen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You should be seeing the advisories that are up in Southeastern VA. They were issued around 1800z for tomorrow afternoon. It is going to get hot around here! 73s, Eric W4OTN Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: Found that I did not have the correct zone maps installed on the laptop. Heat advisories are now showing up. This is now a good thing. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRreBh1PETzpAxiDcAQKGNRAApAOT0J2h348I1ASWgyDtHuweJBVQ2C2Q MPO0Oa60dUyXkzYFhMTSZdzhonnQDIF8axndCi4ASyw7m/zFTpCZaYuBocai3yaN hZphy4R2HXBklRDiFt/+KcKM7rw5qqRVPxPokbbA9FXYupOaEezIaKW6vEvzwIPS XMFh+uVMFOqQRKyvQQ3SSGdogRmXvtxZMP6TdnAoNj2QoB8N4NO0oY/a3mf4WWWh IvxU/ahbYNx2aN7+IC7id+4ALfc/8yt3CiHmuSE0gfLaHAIivYgtF5Cz+Wi4O2wq WF7J5EnEoohCcnpVEymSzyH42Rfa3otfPTcsbJ3/vQf4848O9pB/utlr3glr7Vik TNHzY6JfVBIA5gXz4HBlDE6uK+1/XTeUEv1wqxhm1RhGcwqk49nIQtSJfhGM2OsY j3B/CDja4qjHLyp9Y/XEunz3vlSPUxMWCoTIwjHUTj0NRfx0WMCk2oW/aqqHrbpV D388dvfq0dhAyX7n6GVYGlCVRzBlYsVX5eCQz85Ddbo2/09vuumJs52q8jsJ2whU r20rh0RoZLDQ4WNG7LrtlYaUXI7wd7OW++q9lcNayDF59WLc6bEoSENmd0W/Sc9N wDn8Ih5hhdfGhNuWQyUFANlwnY0NYwWB7qUo0+dI0pmWcT0HcvZgnS2yP7+JPHt9 +tXzRcfRMGU= =/AZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Have created addtional .xbm's
Curt, I have created additional .xbm's for WX warnings. I have three - heat (HEAT), svr_tstrm (SVRTSM) , and wind_chill (?). Heat would be red, svr_tstrm in red and I would put wind_chill in red. I can send them to you under separate cover. I will try and generate the appropriate code in map_shp.c and go from there. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
svr_tsm works....Re: [Xastir] Have created addtional .xbm's
Have SVRTSM working. HEAT does not display even though I have inserted the same code into map_shp.c as SVRTSM. What am I missing? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: Curt, I have created additional .xbm's for WX warnings. I have three - heat (HEAT), svr_tstrm (SVRTSM) , and wind_chill (?). Heat would be red, svr_tstrm in red and I would put wind_chill in red. I can send them to you under separate cover. I will try and generate the appropriate code in map_shp.c and go from there. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Idea on why HEAT does not show up...
Curt, The WX_Alert list shows the line that has HEAT shows NWS_WARN. Is this an issue? I can send my code changes to you. No need for a diff file as I only changed one little area. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Have created addtional .xbm's
Tate, As soon as I hear from Curt about the mods, I will send them to him for his blessing. Right now, SVR TSTRM works. HEAT is not displaying for some reason so I have been capturing wx logfile tonight. I included HEAT because of excessive heat issues and then conversely, the wind-chill warnings as well. I am not sure how WXSVR deals with windchill so that will have to wait until later this year or if someone else will cough up the info. Right now, Chicago is really getting twisted 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tate Belden wrote: Being in Thunderstorm Central - THANKS!! Look'n forward to it 73 Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: Curt, I have created additional .xbm's for WX warnings. I have three - heat (HEAT), svr_tstrm (SVRTSM) , and wind_chill (?). Heat would be red, svr_tstrm in red and I would put wind_chill in red. I can send them to you under separate cover. I will try and generate the appropriate code in map_shp.c and go from there. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] .xbm done for DENSE_FOG plus other info...
Just completed the .xbm for DENSE_FOG.
Now this message and HEAT (ADVIS and WARN) both appear to use the zone
areas...
# 1186362239 Sun Aug 05 20:03:59 CDT 2007
ILNNPWAPRS::NWS_WARN
:061000z,HEAT,INZ50-58-59-66-7375-80-KYZ8998-OHZ6062-7072-78-79 {600BB
# 1186362275 Sun Aug 05 20:04:35 CDT 2007
AFCNPWAPRS::NWS_ADVIS:061145z,DENSE_FOG,AKZ131 {5NdAB
I wonder if this is why HEAT did not show up?
Heading to bed so,
73 from 807,
Richard, N6NKO
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[Xastir] tigermap routines fail with fedora 7
I got the routines from Jason to try and see if I can do the conversions on BigBox with Fedora 7. It crashes because of a naming issue with our friend GDAL. Since I am on the laptop, I will have to get the exact details later. Happy, happy, joy, joy... Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Position rate question
I will look at the routine also. Many eyes make a load light (duck). Plus, outside they are talking about temps with THREE digits here in Brew City today. Plus, winds in the 15-30 MPH range - can you spell convection oven? The threshold setup is akin to windowing. I may be going over previously discussed material here, so forgive me. Fixed position operation is simple, beacon every x minutes. Moving, it should be either time or distance traveled. When you have a GPS unit sending data every second or two, this confounds the issue. Turning is the issue with these beacon rates. You can turn at an intersection and be done with the turn in two seconds. Before I dig myself a hole (It's not Black Friday), let me see what the code is really doing. Maybe we can all participate in getting this to work. 73 from 807 (breakfast bell), Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 12:01:47AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Curt, since you are so intimate with the code, can you point me at the relevant section of Xastir code that deals with SmartBeaconing and CornerPegging? I'll have a look at it to see if how the logic is processed. It's in db.c, the routine compute_smart_beacon. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Position rate possibility....
Alright, now I have a bug on the brain. That is good. Keeps me from thinking about spending money. Plus, XM Classics is on - no wine yet - way too early. But I am wired to the neck in caffeine and the pot is empty. Let me make a proposal. Now I will run it up the flagpole so make sure your sights are lined up to shoot at it... 1) Fixed position. If the vehicle drops below a certain threshold speed, call it STOP SPEED, we send out a quick burst of packets, say three to five , to show the speed coming to zero for at least two packets. In STOP MODE, we send out packets at some set rate. We do not leave this mode until we have a net positive speed above START SPEED and a change in position defined by START POSITION CHANGE. This should allow for compensating for wild positions and not allowing them to cause the unit to do massive transmissions. 2) Moving mode. Me sees three possibilities here: A) fixed time beaconing; B) Fixed distance beaconing; C) Speed based beaconing. I would prefer speed based beaconing. Instead of having threshold points, I would make the time change linear. Have an X-Y formula: X being speed; Y being distance. Both end points on both axes are settable. At slower speeds, you usually are working city streets. This would require more transmissions because of the Urban Canyon issue and there are more opportunities to radically change course. This would avoid the big position jump on a track where you look at a map and see someone halfway across the county changing directions. 3) Dealing with turns. This seems to be a sore spot - corner pegging. We only have a max data rate of 1 secoud out of most GPS units. So what I would do is modify the sending rate based on the degrees turned and instead of using a lookup table, I would use maybe cos^2 or cos^3 of the angle change as the modfier. Modify from the current beaconing rate down to 1 sec beaconing at = 90 degrees. Here in Wisconsin, U-turns are legal so those would have to be covered. Now if I have covered old ground, forgive me. These are just thoughts. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] libgdal is the master here...
Tom, I will do a CVS checkout tonight, if possible. I was wondering if this will conflict with the name change that was put into CVS earlierto avoid the call to libgdal_rtree, or was that backed out? It is possible that when I pulled GDAL our of the repo, GRASS was pulled in as a dependency. Back in college, we were taught to avoid circular references just for this reason. It is like working on a funky PLL oscillator. You have to install a break somewhere to test it and I guess that the bridge file does the same for GRASS/GDAL. I have had many a gray hair working on PLL's for 900 MHz trunking radios in a past life. I have to get ready for Cub Scout Resident Camp next week. My boy is really looking forward to this and I am bringing the firewood for our campsite. So, it is busy time. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:43:11PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 04:44:46PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Tom: ldd spews for libgdal.so: libgrass_rtree is linked in. No surprise. Hadda have been where it was coming from. ldd spews fro libgrass_rtree: nothing except for libm and libc. F7 repo uses gdal-1.4.1, grass-libs-6.2.1 I will have to concur that gdal was built full up but I do not see a circular reference in place. GRASS will stand free, but GDAL needs GRASS (there is a bad joke in there somewhere). Actually, no. GRASS absolutely requires GDAL, and will not build without it --- unless it's quite an old version of GRASS for which GDAL was merely optional. How the F7 repository gets around the circular dependency is probably by bundling the GRASS libraries with the GDAL package, and then having a GRASS package that requires the GDAL package to work (thereby getting all of its own libraries from a separate package). An icky solution for which someone will probably not go to heaven, but one that gets rid of the circular dependency by blurring the boundaries between the two highly interdependent pieces of software. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?
Here is a quick and dirty one. We all have coax, wire ties, and a good pitching arm. Sometimes a mast is not the easiest thing to install but if you have tall overhanging objects, this helps. I always carry a spool of mason's twine (either pink or electric green/yellow). The antenna is made out of RG-58. I strip back about 22 inches to expose the center conductor, making sure that the outer shield does not short against the exposed center conductor. I also put a little coax-seal at that point to seal the cable against the elements. I form a loop at the end of the center conductor so the length is .52 meters. At the same distance down the coax from the strip point, I put about six-eight turn coil about 3-4 inches in diameter, straight wind, not scatter wind. I hold the inductor together with the plastic wire ties. I have just now created a vertical 1/2 wave dipole. I tune it with an MFJ box. Tuning is accomplished with it hanging in an accessible spot off the ground and adjusting where the coil is and the length of the exposed copper center conductor. The antenna works either inside or out. It may not be a gain antenna, but it is simple, easy to store, easy to use, and costs are just for the coax, connector and wire ties. A nice safety aspect of this is that there are no radials sticking out. It can be used inside in a building ( a pin in the wall to hang it on or in a suspended ceiling from a paperclip) or outside from a tree or lamp post. Don't use power lines as a hanger. You could get away using a cable TV cable or phone cable, but not power lines. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: Steve Friis wrote: Jim Tolbert wrote: When considering adding a portable digipeater to a kit, what does an antenna mast buy you and what is the relationship between height and effectiveness? What is antenna height specifications and equipment specifications that should be considered for a permanent antenna, centrally located in the county? We are in Burnett County, Wisconsin . according to the U.S. Census Bureau, the county has a total area of 2,280 km² (880 mi²). 2,128 km² (822 mi²) of it is land and 152 km² (59 mi²) of it (6.69%) is water. There are small elevation changes in the county (800 feet to 1440 feet above mean sea level) and the land is largely forested. Many thanx . jt My experience shows that doubling the height is equal to multiplying the power by 4. This is especially true if you can get above the tree-tops. Here in the desert, you can really increase the range by adding height. I bring a 25' pole to mount both the HF antenna on plus the dual band VHF/UHF antenna. My portable repeater exploits suggest that an antenna should be between 20-40 feet as a minimum... or else just left on the car. You see benefits with antenna height above local terrain that cannot be compensated for by either power or preamplification. I tend to shoot for one of several 30 foot portable masts I have available. One of the simplest is a bull-float handle available from concrete supply stores (but probably not Home Depot). they're ~1-3/4 diameter threaded poles, 10 ft long. I've put up to 4 together with 3-way, single level guying and had the antenna up for as long as a week. Easy to carry and handle, and total cost of the mast was less than $80. Very rugges... they have to be to survive the concrete business. gerry ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?
I agree about the windup j-pole. My complaint is that 300 ohm twinlead is not stable in construction or materials. I have had the geometries of a J change when rolled up, messing up the tunings. You also have to use a coax balun or beads on a J since it is a balanced antenna being fed from an unbalanced coax. Just personal preference. Coax is more easily had than twinlead in an emergency 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jason Winningham wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I have just now created a vertical 1/2 wave dipole. I tune it with an MFJ box. A roll-up J-pole is slightly more complex to build (but not much!) and doesn't need a tuner. A J-pole has noticeably more gain than a dipole, too. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] -Lrtree -ltree ... may have found where...
Tom, IIRC, my laptop version of xastir had me compile separately GDAL. BigBox got GDAL from the repo. All I can say is AIIIEEE as he runs into the darkness, holding his head, and thinking of Muench. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 07:35:33AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Apparently, Fedora 7 on my system loaded parts of GRASS. The ldd search of 1.9.1 that worked showed libgrass_rtree.so.6.2 being linked in. Changing the variable names, I believe that what was done, that was done in the CVS , avoided the linker bringing in libgrass_rtree because it could not find the symbols. What I find interesting is that nm can't find any labels in libgrass_rtree. Maybe I did not pick the right option. But that can be for another time. Have to tackle the outside honeydo list. AH HAH! I bet your GDAL was built with GRASS support, and that's how it's getting in. Try doing an ldd on the GDAL shared library, and you'll probably find that that is where the libgrass_rtree is being dragged in. Since you're not explicitly linking against grass libraries, and the only other GIS-related library that you're using is GDAL, that is the most likely suspect. GDAL should almost never need to be built with GRASS support, because that results in a circular dependency (GRASS needs GDAL to build, GDAL needs GRASS to read GRASS data), so there's a GRASS plugin that can be used to add GRASS support to GDAL without rebuilding it. That's the preferred method. The GDAL package you installed was probably not built according to that preferred method. The easiest fix, then, is to build GDAL from source instead of using a package. No, that's not true. The easiest fix is to de-install GDAL unless you're using it for some other GIS package, and then rebuild xastir without it --- Xastir barely uses GDAL except for some very specific vector data types, and unless you're using those you need not even bother with GDAL support in xastir. If you *are* using GDAL for some other GIS-related package, you could always rebuild xastir with --without-gdal in the configure options, too. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Portable Digipeater Antenna?
The J-Antenna is an end-fed 1/2 wave with a 1/4 wave matching section. The bottom is tied together forming a hairpin. The coax is moved up from the bottom to reach the 50 ohm point and secured. The feedpoint is actually balanced so there can be some issues feeding the antenna with coax, which is by design is unbalanced. As a matter of convention, the shield is tied to the short piece and the center conductor is tied to the long side. The matching section does not do much radiating because the signals are cancelled out, leaving the 1/2 wave section in the clear to do the radiating as vertical dipole. This antenna does have some gain associated with it over a ground plane antenna and it is a great way to start an argument. The nice thing about the J is that you do not need a ground or ground plane to work against. Ray Wells wrote: Jason Winningham wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: I have just now created a vertical 1/2 wave dipole. I tune it with an MFJ box. A roll-up J-pole is slightly more complex to build (but not much!) and doesn't need a tuner. A J-pole has noticeably more gain than a dipole, too. -Jason kg4wsv Given that a J-pole is only a dipole with an alternative feed method (i.e. at the end rather than the centre), I have to wonder where this gain comes from. Ray vk2tv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Configure Error
Gents, About OpenMotif, look at the following link: http://lwn.net/Articles/197744/ Fedora was planning, and did from what I can find, to drop OpenMotif because of licensing issues. You will probably have to use LessTif, which is available via Pirut. There was an email that I posted on what was needed to do Xastir on Fedora 7. I believe that applies to FC6 as well. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 05:28:44PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Loaded Fedora Core 6, as I gave up trying to compile under Cygwin. When I run Configure I get an error that Motif headers are not loaded. I thought OpenMotif 2.3 was included in FC6? The libraries might be, but the -dev package (with the development headers needed by Xastir) probably isn't. You need to add that one package. Is there any easy way to fix this w/o downloading OpenMotif again? Yep. Just add the -dev package. I'm sorry, I don't know what it's called. Check the Xastir wiki (www.xastir.org, click Xastir Documentation and then HowTos). There's a page there that documents how to get Xastir running on Fedora. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] CoverSplit symbol issue with rtree in Fedora 7 ... may have found the bug
I need this confirmed. I did a Fedora 7 install on BigBox. Brought in the requisite routines to work with 1.9.1. configure / make / crash on CoverSplit issue. Found -Lrtree -lrtree in command line that cause the crash. Edited out -lrtree in configure file. Make clean / configure / make / success!! Now to a meeting at work. Further updates to follow... 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CoverSplit symbol issue with rtree in Fedora 7 ... may have found the bug
Tom, All I did was remove the one library search, not both. If the library was not available, linking should have failed due to an undefined reference call. The executable does run on my system as I have compiled it. What I will do is compile 1.9.0 straight and capture the whole process and a capture of the edited config file compile. I willl then post to the group for chewing. 73 from 807 and answering lunch bell, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:40:09AM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: I need this confirmed. I did a Fedora 7 install on BigBox. Brought in the requisite routines to work with 1.9.1. configure / make / crash on CoverSplit issue. Found -Lrtree -lrtree in command line that cause the crash. Edited out -lrtree in configure file. You should never need to edit the configure file. You can disable rtree with the --without-rtree. Editing out the link should cause problems, because WITH_RTREE would still be defined. I still don't understand the reported link failure when rtree is enabled on this (and only this) system. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CoverSplit symbol issue with rtree in Fedora 7 ... may have found the bug
Curt, It may have been covered but with no conclusion. I have to take a bunch of tree trimmings to the dump, so while I am doing that, I will have BigBox do an exhaustive search to see if there are multiple instances of CoverSplit. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: All I did was remove the one library search, not both. If the library was not available, linking should have failed due to an undefined reference call. And the library should be available, 'cuz it's part of Xastir. A possibility is that there's another symbol with the same name available in another library that is on the link line, something that we don't have any control over. Have we discussed this before? -- Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto:A tax on people who are bad at math. -- unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] CoverSplit symbol issue with rtree in Fedora
Gents, There is no need to start a religious war over editing ./configure. I am trying to understand what is going on. I want to try a couple of items first before the CVS release. It appears that using either -lrtree -Lrtree or -Lrtree -lrtree does not make a difference, It still faults out. I will send the -v from gcc and the output from both runs under a separate email. I don't think that there is a problem with xastir. I am beginning to believe that there is an issue between the -l and the -L calls in gcc. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Curt, WE7U wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Tom Russo wrote: One could always try changing the name CoverSplit throughout the split_l.* files to something else (like l_CoverSplit). There was a brief period where I had been confused and was suggesting to folks that they try changing CoverSplit in a different pair of files, but that pair of files turned out not to be used or even compiled in Xastir's use of rtree (we use only part of it). I just tweaked that and committed the changes to CVS. Richard: Please update to the latest CVS and give it a shot. If it fixes your problem we can leave the code as-is, else I might back out the change. -- Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto:A tax on people who are bad at math. -- unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] More system questions
In checking the station details, he/she is showing a range of 20 miles. Remember, that number is based on a clear shot. Burnett County is not that flat and is tree laden. The effective range for the station will be less. It appears that in a 50 mile radius of Burnett, I count four stations advertised as being active on APRS. The idea of just using a transmit-only tracker was a idea to keep it small and lightweight. A full TNC, battery, radio, and reasonable antenna will be cumbersome for the person to carry. The key here is ANTENNA. You gain on both ends, RX and TX. Probably the best way to do an antenna is to use a long rubber ducky antenna and use the metal frame of a backpack as the ground plane. Plus, it is easier to carry day supplies and the metal frame is far easier on the back than a softshell pack. If you are going to go the radio/tnc route, I would set up the units to also be digipeaters as well. This would give the low level signals a better chance to propagate. I do not know if the D7A will digi as well, so I would look into it. This is not going to be cheap if you go with off-the-shelf solutions. Cobbling would save much but if the capability is not there, you will have to bite the bullet. Good luck. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jim Tolbert wrote: Thanks Tom Yes... We live in the undeveloped boonies. But then, we like it that way grin. The one digipeater that is in out county is AAOKU-WL and 4min. What does that tell us? Thanks ... jt Tom Russo wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 03:37:52PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: You could also set up an Xastir station to listen using an APRS-IS server (nternet only) fairly quickly, and look for the digis on your map. To do this, you'd want to use a filter that specified r/45/-92/500 or something to give a nice big range of stations near you. I'm actually looking at such a thing right now. In the few seconds I've been watching, I see that there are quite a few digipeaters, but they are all advertising fairly short ranges (through their PHG settings, which may or may not really indicate their effectiveness, as it's a very crude measure). I'll take a screen shot of your area viewed in xastir in an hour or so after I've captured more data. I'll put it on my web site and post here with the URL. I think I've got all that I can get, since I've already heard from the digis that are closest to you. I have a snapshot, it's at http://www.swcp.com/~russo/imgs/wiscsnap.png Look at the pale green circles --- they represent the digipeaters at the center (where the star is) and their advertised ranges. The southeast portion of Wisconsin appears saturated with digis with overlapping ranges, but your western portion is thinner. It looks like your county is pretty much without a local digipeater at all. The nearest digis to the location you sent are advertising ranges that don't quite cover the distance between your location and theirs. You might have trouble hitting those digis during SAR missions, but you'll want to try out a tracker in your normal operation area before concluding that. You could get a single D7 radio, wire it up to a GPS, and use a path like WIDE2-2 to see if you get digipeated --- you could monitor the whole thing on findu without having any other infrastructure to see if you're making it to a digipeater and an Igate. Not a solid test (you could be reaching a digi but not an igate), but you could still tell if you're getting digipeated because the D7 would report when it hears its own packets back. If your local infrastructure isn't built up enough then you might need some assistance to get a new digi installed nearer to your operations area, or you could deploy a portable digipeater on missions --- yet another piece of equipment to purchase and maintain, but perhaps easier than getting a full-time digi set up so that it reaches where you need it. Curt likes the idea of using Tracker2 units to deploy a bunch of man-portable digis into mission areas. I'm still skeptical, but it could work well. How's that going, Curt? (ignoring the fact that Tracker2 is still not ready for prime time, so doesn't answer Jim's needs yet) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] System cost options
Another possibility is to look at Byonics.com. They make units that work great for APRS trackers. They may be a possibility. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Jim Tolbert wrote: Thank you very much to Curt, Jason, Tom, Gerry for the comments. So if I were to go with APRS/ Xastir /Linux.. It appears that I can download Linux and I have a laptop available. I can download Xastir. So the costs for each field searcher will be will be $500 ( Kenwood D7A ($350) plus a mapping GPS (Etrex Summit ($150)). Then do I need the same for the laptop or only the Kenwood D7A or something else? For 4 teams(two units per team -- one at each end) plus a dog plus two mounted searchers plus the laptop, I will need 12 sets or $6,000. For Garmin Rino 110 (5 mile GMRS) I would have 12 @ $150 = $1800. For Garmin Rino 520 (14 mile GMRS) I would have 12 @ $360 = $4320. Are there other options that should be considered with a cost between high low? I am pretty sure we do not have the ability to homebrew equipment, so unless they are VERY straightforward, I think kits are out. I don't know if this has any impact on the situation, but we have huge holes in our cellular coverage and our radio infrastructure is dated and heavily loaded also with holes in the reception. Is the general consensus that I should wait until we can afford the Kenwood / GPS unit system or go now with one of the Rino options. I don't know what is available as far as funds.. I am just trying to get a good picture of the impact of the choices. Many thanx to all .. you have been VERY helpful. jt ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] xastir : xastir-development (fwd)
Running just fine on Fedora 7 on the T42.
73 from 807,
Richard, N6NKO
Curt, WE7U wrote:
Project: XASTIR (xastir)
Package: xastir-development
Date : 2007-06-15 11:14
Project XASTIR ('xastir') has released the new version of package
'xastir-development'. You can download it from SourceForge.net by
following
this link:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=45562release_id=516341
or browse Release Notes and ChangeLog by visiting this link:
https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=516341
Homepage: http://www.xastir.org
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Re: [Xastir] Weather map question
Earl, This is where the compositing/layers come in handy. I have the radar image on the lowest layer, the county layout above that, the street map above, then the cities as the top layer. This way, Xastir does the layering work. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Gerry Creager wrote: The WMS mapping only and solely provides a radar image. I don't try to add landmarks, roads, etc. gerry EarlNeedham via Kubuntu wrote: I like to use the WMSradar map when the weather get rough out here, but I have a slight problem with it -- I don't see any landmarks, towns, etc. I see other APRS stations on the map, and unless I can see one that I recognize, I have no way of knowing where the cells are. Is there a way to add, say, Tiger maps at a low level to the weather maps? Thanks, Earl KD5XB ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] New FC7 install troubles with both Release and Stable CVS
I have a fresh install of Fedora 7 production. Refer to previous emails about 1.9 and Fedora 7. I downloaded the CVS devel package and compiled. It runs with no issues or problems short of a couple of nuisance warnings during compile. It sounds like this is a bad install of Fedora 7. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 01:14:47AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] flavor, containing: Stephen Peters wrote: Tate, I just double-checked the ld.so.conf and re-ran ldconfig. Neither seems to change the error message. One interesting thing, is that I don't have a /usr/X11R6/lib directory. I do have a /usr/lib/X11 directory, but it's empty. Thank you for the suggestion! It is also very good to know you've got it running on F7. When I compile without rtree, it does work fine. I must have something weird going on here with that package. -Steve Mmmm, strange, yet odd... Do you have the X11-devel packages installed? If he had not, disabling rtree would not have fixed the problem. Do you have the rtree-devel package installed? There is no such thing. rtree is a library that comes with xastir, not a package that you can install. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir 1.9 and Fedora 7 build-up
All is running well now. I am committing bit-banging abuse to Gerry's server getting the state map. Also, I am running a GlobalSat BT-359 Bluetooth GPS receiver and it is feeding my location to the GPS. I am not using gpsd either. So far, so good. Now to see where it all leads now. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO P.S.: Mom Nature wussed out! Huge bad boy storms predicted and all we get is some lame clouds. Pretty sunset though. Curt, WE7U wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Richard Polivka wrote: I just trashed the .xastir directory. It was listed at /usr/share/xastir for xastir.cnf. Restarted xastir to recreate directory and terminated. xastir.cnf now shows /usr/local/share/xastir/... We used to use the /usr/share/xastir directory (and others) but changed to directories more compatible with the linux filesystem standard quite a while back. I'm thinking 2 or 3 years ago at least? Anyway, if you've ever run one of the older Xastir's, it saves that info in your config file and therefore it'll hang around. -- Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto:A tax on people who are bad at math. -- unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Possible makefile error...Apr 6 devel release
Was doing 1.8.5-Apr06 and got the following: Making all in symbols make[2]: Entering directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5/symbols' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5/symbols' Making all in callpass make[2]: Entering directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5/callpass' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5/callpass' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `AUTHORS', needed by `all-am'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/n6nko/xastir/xastir-1.8.5' make: *** [all] Error 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] xastir-1.8.5]$ ./configure --enable-shared --with-dbfawk --without-image-magick; make The command line at the end was what I used to start the compile. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir question regarding Internet Server
Josh, I did what you are describing just using one machine - Inet-RF (stns/wx/data), RF-RF(digi), but no RF-Inet, here in the Milwaukee area. I was doing for a long time and decided to stop providing the service since I saw no evidence of the information being used. So, as a test, I opened up the floodgates to all the wx messages and found that all that was received was complaining from a couple of area hams because of all the activity was present (I still have the emails from the people involved). So, all I received was indirect complaints, so I shut down the service. Now I just use the feeds here with other software packages that I wrote to have running during weather net operations here. I run a three-monitor linux box that simultaneously displays all the WSR-88D products out of KMKX, xastir showing the wx alerts, and the text messages being sent out by the NWS color coded as to severity. If the service can be used up in Sheboygan and you have a group that will appreciate the service, then go for it. You have the ideas correct. If I can be of any help, just ask. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Josh Housey wrote: Hi All The name here is Josh in Sheboygan, WI (north of Milwaukee). I have a question regarding using Xastir with an Internet Server. I have the general idea how it works, but, I am having a difficulty with it due to a complicated situation that will be explained below .8) I currently am running Xastir on a Linux machine running Slackware that is tied into 144.390. I have a Mac mini and a iBook laptop that I am using to connect to this machine and see the RF data over it and transmit out to RF. That is working well and I can watch and transmit all the APRS activity via laptop on my wireless network which is very neat. Anyway, my next project is to completely get rid of APRSD and use Xastir for nearly all of my APRS functions with the exception of the weather info that this Linux machine actually retrieves from another Linux machine which is connected to my Davis Wireless Advange Pro II station. Actually, the reason for getting rid of APRSD, and Ithink it is a problem, is that it starting to slow down the system. If I remember, there is a memory issue and that is more likely causing the system to slow down. The weather info, I think, will still say with DIGI_NED which is running with Xastir on a AX25 Linux setup, as it has some really neat messaging stuff that can be done while using the data. The function that I want Xastir to do is the gating of NWS info. I understand that I need to add an Internet server to do this. When I set it up and connected, I starting get lots of stations on the map, obviously. I figured that out by going to Filter Display and selecting Net that they won't be displayed. I am under the impression this is the correct idea to get rid of all the stations showing up on the map? I don't think this gets rid of anything else on any other of the displays. Actually, is there anyway to take this a step further, and only display certain stations/areas? Now, to actually gate the NWS, info to RF, I would need to add MKX*/GRB* (The nearest National Weather Services to me) to nws-stations.txt, just like I did with AB9FT-15 (my Macs)? Please correct me if any of this is wrong. After that is all set, I log into the packet Xastir computer through one of the Macs, and I am getting the Internet server feed as well and I only still want to see RF as I have it currently right now. Do I need to do filtering on the Mac in order to get rid of this or is there another way to accomplish this. But, if I do a Filter Display from Net with Xastir on the Mac, I will not be seeing anything as they are all off the Net. The APRSD works well as I have it connected to the Internet server and only gates to RF the MKX/GRB* stuff but would like to use Xastir as it can and help the resources of the system from running APRSD over prolong periods of time Your help will be appreciated. 73 Josh, AB9FT No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
