[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
This error continues to occur until it reaches maximum retries. I must have "defrosted" the message about 3 times and had it do the same thing before setting it up so that XMail sent it through my ISP, which it did on the first try. I have limited time to spend running tests and stuff on this, it's only a "hobby". But if anyone has anything specific they'd like me to run, let me know. BTW, this is intermittant, I'm pretty sure I've been able to send stuff to my hotmail address through this server in the past. Joe On Apr 7, 2005 2:15 AM, CLEMENT Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not to defend windows against linux or other os but it seams thit is = > not > exclusively a 'windows' related issue. > > My windows/xmail couple work fine with hotmail/msn, started with = > windows > 2000 sp0/xmail 0.65 up to windows 2000 sp4/xmail 1.21 ... and always = > with > windows own dns servers ... > If this is a 'windows' problem it is in the specific windows = > installation > (conflics, bad dll's, ...). > > For your present request on linux, as the error is "417 Temporary = > delivery > error", this is not a fatal delivery error, so xmail will try later. = > Let > xmail do the job until you receive a fatal NoDeliveryReport from your = > xmail > server. > 'Time out' could be du to hotmail servers too busy, temporary network > bandwidth full on internet, no more disk space at hotmail, (or grey = > list ?) > > > Here it is strange that your isp can deliver to hotmail the same time = > you > can't directly. > > If you let xmail doing the 'normal' retries, do you finaly receive a = > fatal > NDR (5xx code) ? > > If yes the tests to run are exactly the same used in the 'windows' = > problem > with hotmail : > - Verify dns records for your xmail linux server, keep in mind that = > hotmail > used multiple tests to fight spams (don't know exacts tests but could = > be > rdns checks, spf records checks, black lists, grey lists, ...) > - Verify if your ip is 'black lists' > - Try to simulate a smtp session from the xmail linux server to hotmail = > and > see if result is the same then try from another pc to compare > - Try to run tcpdump to get traces of the smtp sessions with hotmail > .. > .. > > Send any informations you can get on the list. More informations you = > send, > more help you get ;-) > > Francis > > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoy=E9 : jeudi 7 avril 2005 07:29 > =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org > Objet : [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > ErrCode =3D -5 > ErrString =3D Timeout error > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "sougent.com" From = > =3D > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > Joe > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Thinking about it I realize that that wouldn't account for why SmartDNShost pointing to local DNS would work and without it it wouldn't ... I'm going to look back over the old emails (if I can find them) and see if I can find the article on Windows DNS that I originally thought might be related... Jeff - Original Message From: xmail@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Date: 07/04/05 03:35 > Please correct me if I am wrong (my understanding of DNS is not a thourough > as I would like it to be) but doesn't a root request simply attempt to find > the actual DNS for a given server? In other words, root doesn't provide the > actual DNS but rather the location that the DNS request should be passed to, > right? > > So, thinking back over some of the previous email about this, has it been > suggested that the problem is with the DNS request for the Hotmail/MSN > domain, or that the problem is with the domain the sender controls - if with > the Hotmail domain, then I follow your reasoning, but if there is a problem > with the sending domain, then it would be your DNS that would be the > responsible DNS for domain resolution, right? So, I can't remmeber (and > don't have the mail) what the final thought was on the Windows DNS, but if > you have a domain that is handled by yur DNS, and Hotmail or MSN make a > request about that domain when mail is sent to them, and your DNS server has > a problem (related to being Windows DNS) then might this be a problem, or do > I have this all wrong? > > Jeff > > - Original Message ---- > From: xmail@xmailserver.org > To: xmail@xmailserver.org <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Date: 06/04/05 20:17 > > > This error looks a little different than the others who have had problems > > with earthlink/hotmail/ etc. We never got a timeout error this way, and I > > > don't remember seeing it in the previous thread. > > > > To rephrase, on two subject windows servers, one NT & one 2000, with > > different version of xmail, behave exactly the same. > > > > When smartDNShost is not used, we get the errors. When smartDNShost is > > used, and pointed at the windows DNS server on the same machine as xmail, > > the errors do not occur. > > > > It just doesn't seem correct to say that its a windows DNS problem since > the > > solution of the problem is to use a windows DNS server for smart host. > > > > According to Davide, xmail without smartdnshost, goes all the way to root > > for its dns resolutions. It seems as if it were a Windows DNS problem, > > setting smarthost to a windows DNS server would cause the problem, and not > > > solve it. > > > > Tony > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 PM > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > > > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > > > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > > > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > > > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > > > > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > > > > > ErrCode = -5 > > > ErrString = Timeout error > > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = > "sougent.com" From = > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Failed ! > > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > > > > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN > through > > > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Forgot a few things: > > >> - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson > reported. > > >> - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem > is > > >> excluded. > > >> > > >> Dario > > >> &
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Please correct me if I am wrong (my understanding of DNS is not a thourough as I would like it to be) but doesn't a root request simply attempt to find the actual DNS for a given server? In other words, root doesn't provide the actual DNS but rather the location that the DNS request should be passed to, right? So, thinking back over some of the previous email about this, has it been suggested that the problem is with the DNS request for the Hotmail/MSN domain, or that the problem is with the domain the sender controls - if with the Hotmail domain, then I follow your reasoning, but if there is a problem with the sending domain, then it would be your DNS that would be the responsible DNS for domain resolution, right? So, I can't remmeber (and don't have the mail) what the final thought was on the Windows DNS, but if you have a domain that is handled by yur DNS, and Hotmail or MSN make a request about that domain when mail is sent to them, and your DNS server has a problem (related to being Windows DNS) then might this be a problem, or do I have this all wrong? Jeff - Original Message From: xmail@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Date: 06/04/05 20:17 > This error looks a little different than the others who have had problems > with earthlink/hotmail/ etc. We never got a timeout error this way, and I > don't remember seeing it in the previous thread. > > To rephrase, on two subject windows servers, one NT & one 2000, with > different version of xmail, behave exactly the same. > > When smartDNShost is not used, we get the errors. When smartDNShost is > used, and pointed at the windows DNS server on the same machine as xmail, > the errors do not occur. > > It just doesn't seem correct to say that its a windows DNS problem since the > solution of the problem is to use a windows DNS server for smart host. > > According to Davide, xmail without smartdnshost, goes all the way to root > for its dns resolutions. It seems as if it were a Windows DNS problem, > setting smarthost to a windows DNS server would cause the problem, and not > solve it. > > Tony > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > > > ErrCode = -5 > > ErrString = Timeout error > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > > > Joe > > > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Forgot a few things: > >> - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > >> - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > >> excluded. > >> > >> Dario > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message sent using UebiMiau - Buehler Technologies 2.7.8 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
>From what Davide has said in the past, xmail performs its own dns all the way up to root in the absense of smartdnshost. - Original Message - From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > When you do not use SmartDNSHost, what is handling the DNS if the Windows > machine handles it when you do? > > Jeff > > - Original Message > From: xmail@xmailserver.org > To: xmail@xmailserver.org > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Date: 06/04/05 20:17 > >> This error looks a little different than the others who have had problems >> with earthlink/hotmail/ etc. We never got a timeout error this way, and >> I > >> don't remember seeing it in the previous thread. >> >> To rephrase, on two subject windows servers, one NT & one 2000, with >> different version of xmail, behave exactly the same. >> >> When smartDNShost is not used, we get the errors. When smartDNShost is >> used, and pointed at the windows DNS server on the same machine as xmail, >> the errors do not occur. >> >> It just doesn't seem correct to say that its a windows DNS problem since > the >> solution of the problem is to use a windows DNS server for smart host. >> >> According to Davide, xmail without smartdnshost, goes all the way to root >> for its dns resolutions. It seems as if it were a Windows DNS problem, >> setting smarthost to a windows DNS server would cause the problem, and >> not > >> solve it. >> >> Tony >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 PM >> Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com >> >> >> > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've >> read >> > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a >> > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail >> > (1.20) server is on Linux . >> > >> > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. >> > >> > ErrCode = -5 >> > ErrString = Timeout error >> > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = > "sougent.com" From = >> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Failed ! >> > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" >> > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> > >> > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN > through >> > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. >> > >> > Joe >> > >> > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Forgot a few things: >> >> - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson > reported. >> >> - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem > is >> >> excluded. >> >> >> >> Dario >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > xmail" in >> >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of >> a > message to >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> > - >> > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > xmail" in >> > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a > message to >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe >> xmail" > in >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message > to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > Message sent using UebiMiau - Buehler Technologies 2.7.8 > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
This may not have anything to do with it, but Brazil addresses possibly seem to have something to so with this problem ... is it possible that MSN and /or Hotmail are doing something highly restrictive with Brazilian IP's, even if they are not in an RBL, or something like that? Windows users also seem to be having the problem far more (or exclusively). I noticed that a month or so ago as well when some of the mails about this were being sent. It is important to note that I have (so far) never had any problems similar to the ones being mentioned with Hotmail or MSN, and I think that there are many XMail users who are also not having this problem, so there must be a common thread of some sort other than just XMail. Jeff - Original Message From: xmail@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Date: 07/04/05 01:00 > > I have the same problem, but with the domain revistaexito.com.br > I run XMail 1.21 with WIN2K Server SP4, working fine with domain hotmail.com > > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send FF = "revistaexito.com.br" SMTP = "3wdesigner.com.br" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "revistaexito.com.br" > >> > > Luis A S C Junior > > - Original Message - > From: "Edinilson J. Santos" <edinilson@atinet.com.br> > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:49 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 > > For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to another > server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar problem. > > Edinilson > - > ATINET-Professional Web Hosting > Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 > http://www.atinet.com.br > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:28 AM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > ErrCode = -5 > ErrString = Timeout error > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > Joe > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Forgot a few things: > > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > > excluded. > > > > Dario > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message sent using UebiMiau - Buehler Technologies 2.7.8 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
I have the same problem, but with the domain revistaexito.com.br I run XMail 1.21 with WIN2K Server SP4, working fine with domain hotmail.com << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send FF = "revistaexito.com.br" SMTP = "3wdesigner.com.br" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "revistaexito.com.br" >> Luis A S C Junior - Original Message - From: "Edinilson J. Santos" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to another server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar problem. Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:28 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail (1.20) server is on Linux . I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. ErrCode = -5 ErrString = Timeout error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. Joe On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgot a few things: > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > excluded. > > Dario - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
It may, or may not be, the same problem. A lot of things can cause a temporary delivery error. Is it just hotmail and msn? Is it intermittent, or every attempt to send? You are running the xmail server on Linux - is that where the DNS is also? Do you have reverse DNS (the error would probably be different if not, but just in case...)? Jeff - Original Message From: xmail@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Date: 06/04/05 23:55 > I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 > > For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to another > server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar problem. > > Edinilson > - > ATINET-Professional Web Hosting > Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 > http://www.atinet.com.br > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:28 AM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > ErrCode = -5 > ErrString = Timeout error > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > Joe > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Forgot a few things: > > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > > excluded. > > > > Dario > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message sent using UebiMiau - Buehler Technologies 2.7.8 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
When you do not use SmartDNSHost, what is handling the DNS if the Windows machine handles it when you do? Jeff - Original Message From: xmail@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Date: 06/04/05 20:17 > This error looks a little different than the others who have had problems > with earthlink/hotmail/ etc. We never got a timeout error this way, and I > don't remember seeing it in the previous thread. > > To rephrase, on two subject windows servers, one NT & one 2000, with > different version of xmail, behave exactly the same. > > When smartDNShost is not used, we get the errors. When smartDNShost is > used, and pointed at the windows DNS server on the same machine as xmail, > the errors do not occur. > > It just doesn't seem correct to say that its a windows DNS problem since the > solution of the problem is to use a windows DNS server for smart host. > > According to Davide, xmail without smartdnshost, goes all the way to root > for its dns resolutions. It seems as if it were a Windows DNS problem, > setting smarthost to a windows DNS server would cause the problem, and not > solve it. > > Tony > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <xmail@xmailserver.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > > > ErrCode = -5 > > ErrString = Timeout error > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > > > Joe > > > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Forgot a few things: > >> - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > >> - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > >> excluded. > >> > >> Dario > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message sent using UebiMiau - Buehler Technologies 2.7.8 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
my guess is no reverse lookup for your xmail IP address Dave - Original Message - From: "Edinilson J. Santos" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to another server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar problem. Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:28 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail (1.20) server is on Linux . I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. ErrCode = -5 ErrString = Timeout error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. Joe On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgot a few things: > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > excluded. > > Dario > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
On Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:49 PM [GMT+1=CET], Edinilson J. Santos wrote: > I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 > > For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to > another server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar > problem. IMHO you should run a packet sniffer on your machine and send us the traces. That is one possibility to get over this thing. tcpdump/ethereal is your friend. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
I'm still having the problem, but with Windows version of XMail 1.21 For now I'm forwarding all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to another server with microsoft smtp and waiting others have a similar problem. Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:28 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail (1.20) server is on Linux . I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. ErrCode = -5 ErrString = Timeout error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. Joe On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgot a few things: > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is > excluded. > > Dario > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
This error looks a little different than the others who have had problems with earthlink/hotmail/ etc. We never got a timeout error this way, and I don't remember seeing it in the previous thread. To rephrase, on two subject windows servers, one NT & one 2000, with different version of xmail, behave exactly the same. When smartDNShost is not used, we get the errors. When smartDNShost is used, and pointed at the windows DNS server on the same machine as xmail, the errors do not occur. It just doesn't seem correct to say that its a windows DNS problem since the solution of the problem is to use a windows DNS server for smart host. According to Davide, xmail without smartdnshost, goes all the way to root for its dns resolutions. It seems as if it were a Windows DNS problem, setting smarthost to a windows DNS server would cause the problem, and not solve it. Tony - Original Message - From: "Joe Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read > on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a > similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail > (1.20) server is on Linux . > > I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. > > ErrCode = -5 > ErrString = Timeout error > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > > I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through > my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. > > Joe > > On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Forgot a few things: >> - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. >> - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is >> excluded. >> >> Dario >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Not to defend windows against linux or other os but it seams thit is = not exclusively a 'windows' related issue. My windows/xmail couple work fine with hotmail/msn, started with = windows 2000 sp0/xmail 0.65 up to windows 2000 sp4/xmail 1.21 ... and always = with windows own dns servers ... If this is a 'windows' problem it is in the specific windows = installation (conflics, bad dll's, ...). For your present request on linux, as the error is "417 Temporary = delivery error", this is not a fatal delivery error, so xmail will try later. = Let xmail do the job until you receive a fatal NoDeliveryReport from your = xmail server. 'Time out' could be du to hotmail servers too busy, temporary network bandwidth full on internet, no more disk space at hotmail, (or grey = list ?) Here it is strange that your isp can deliver to hotmail the same time = you can't directly. If you let xmail doing the 'normal' retries, do you finaly receive a = fatal NDR (5xx code) ? If yes the tests to run are exactly the same used in the 'windows' = problem with hotmail : - Verify dns records for your xmail linux server, keep in mind that = hotmail used multiple tests to fight spams (don't know exacts tests but could = be rdns checks, spf records checks, black lists, grey lists, ...) - Verify if your ip is 'black lists' - Try to simulate a smtp session from the xmail linux server to hotmail = and see if result is the same then try from another pc to compare - Try to run tcpdump to get traces of the smtp sessions with hotmail .. .. Send any informations you can get on the list. More informations you = send, more help you get ;-) Francis -Message d'origine- De : Joe Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : jeudi 7 avril 2005 07:29 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail (1.20) server is on Linux . I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. ErrCode =3D -5 ErrString =3D Timeout error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "sougent.com" From = =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. Joe - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Not intending to start this thread up again, but everything I've read on the subject says this is somehow Windows related but I'm having a similar problem delivering to hotmail.com and msn.com, but my XMail (1.20) server is on Linux . I was getting this error as it cycles through the MX's. ErrCode = -5 ErrString = Timeout error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "sougent.com" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." I've worked around it by forwarding all mail to hotmail or MSN through my ISP but it'd be nice to know what's going on. Joe On Mar 23, 2005 4:23 PM, Dario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forgot a few things: > - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. > - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is excluded. > > Dario > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Forgot a few things: - we are obviously talking about the original problem Edinilson reported. - also any antispam, blacklisting or reverse resolution problem is excluded. Dario - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Mike Harrington wrote: > I could be wrong, but I THINK that it means the connection was terminated > early. You could always use a telnet client to connect to a hotmail MX > server and try to send an email by hand - see directly what's going on, such > as error messages. I also remember someone talking about that error message > along with DNS issues. If memory serves, it occurs when XMail can't find > the IP address for the MX as in the server. > > Correct me anyone if I'm wrong :) >From those logs, we can clearly see that MXs are correctly found and rotated. The problem is that the remote server closes the connection somewhere in the middle of the SMTP session, while XMail is expecting more data. This is what "End of socket stream data" stands for. > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > > << > > ErrCode = -162 > > ErrString = End of socket stream data > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
Excellent . . . - Original Message - From: "Rob Arends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > Transitory storage, I'll regenerate and post. > It will take a few days before I can get to it. > > Rob :-) > > _ > Signature: Live like you'll die tomorrow! > Reply: I tried your signature out once. It took years off my life! > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:30 AM >> To: XMail mailing list >> Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, >> end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC >> >> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Rob Arends wrote: >> >> > If you'd care to re-investigate, I'll be happy to go >> through it again. >> >> You said you had the packet trace from the XMail machine. Post it ... >> >> >> >> - Davide >> >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe >> xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a >> message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
best thing to do is run Ethereal trace of TCP conversation and see EXACTLY who says what to whom and EXACTLY when or why it fails. Dave - Original Message - From: "Mike Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC I could be wrong, but I THINK that it means the connection was terminated early. You could always use a telnet client to connect to a hotmail MX server and try to send an email by hand - see directly what's going on, such as error messages. I also remember someone talking about that error message along with DNS issues. If memory serves, it occurs when XMail can't find the IP address for the MX as in the server. Correct me anyone if I'm wrong :) - Original Message - From: "Edinilson J. Santos" To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > Resending a message that was send in 03/11/2005: > > > > Below a SLOG from spool: > > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > >> > [PeekTime] 1110537291 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:34:51 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > >> > [PeekTime] 1110537580 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:39:40 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Tempo
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
I could be wrong, but I THINK that it means the connection was terminated early. You could always use a telnet client to connect to a hotmail MX server and try to send an email by hand - see directly what's going on, such as error messages. I also remember someone talking about that error message along with DNS issues. If memory serves, it occurs when XMail can't find the IP address for the MX as in the server. Correct me anyone if I'm wrong :) - Original Message - From: "Edinilson J. Santos" To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > Resending a message that was send in 03/11/2005: > > > > Below a SLOG from spool: > > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > >> > [PeekTime] 1110537291 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:34:51 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." > >> > [PeekTime] 1110537580 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:39:40 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temp
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
= "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110541635 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:47:15 -0300 << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110543000 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:10:00 -0300 << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110544716 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:38:36 -0300 << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROT
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
What is the error message associated with frozen message? - Original Message - From: "Edinilson J. Santos" To: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > Davide, something is very strange about this error because the other windows > 2000 server with CDONTS is exactly configured in the same way the xmail's > server is. > In the server with microsoft smtp server messages to hotmail.com and msn.com > aren't queued. They were delivered in the first try. > But, with XMail, messages to hotmail.com and msn.com are queued stay there > until the error maximum number of retris has been reached raises. > > I'm discarding DNS problems. > > Thanks > > Edinilson > - > ATINET-Professional Web Hosting > Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 > http://www.atinet.com.br > > > - Original Message - > From: "Davide Libenzi" > To: "XMail mailing list" > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:03 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket > stream dtata, on windows PC > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > > > Tony, thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem > > (for now) because I always have used SMARTDNSHOST (since first contact > > with XMail). > > I will try to do the opposite: NOT use SMARTDNSHOST and report the result > > to you (and the list). > > > > Just remembering: > > -I pointed SMARTDNSHOST to others flavors of DNS servers (djbdns and bind > > in a freebsd box and microsoft dns servers in others networks) without > > success. > > -To bypass the problem until a solution I'm forwarding all emails to > > hotmail.com and msn.com to another server using microsoft smtp server (aka > > CDONTS). > > > > > >> [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > > > >> << > > > >> ErrCode = -162 > > > >> ErrString = End of socket stream data > > > >> SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > > > >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > This tells two things: > > 1) XMail resolved the MX correctly > 2) The mx1.hotmail.com. did a post-connection rejection of your SMTP >client session > > > > - Davide > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
Davide, something is very strange about this error because the other windows 2000 server with CDONTS is exactly configured in the same way the xmail's server is. In the server with microsoft smtp server messages to hotmail.com and msn.com aren't queued. They were delivered in the first try. But, with XMail, messages to hotmail.com and msn.com are queued stay there until the error maximum number of retris has been reached raises. I'm discarding DNS problems. Thanks Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: "Davide Libenzi" To: "XMail mailing list" Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > Tony, thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem > (for now) because I always have used SMARTDNSHOST (since first contact > with XMail). > I will try to do the opposite: NOT use SMARTDNSHOST and report the result > to you (and the list). > > Just remembering: > -I pointed SMARTDNSHOST to others flavors of DNS servers (djbdns and bind > in a freebsd box and microsoft dns servers in others networks) without > success. > -To bypass the problem until a solution I'm forwarding all emails to > hotmail.com and msn.com to another server using microsoft smtp server (aka > CDONTS). > > >> [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > > >> << > > >> ErrCode = -162 > > >> ErrString = End of socket stream data > > >> SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > > >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! This tells two things: 1) XMail resolved the MX correctly 2) The mx1.hotmail.com. did a post-connection rejection of your SMTP client session - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
Transitory storage, I'll regenerate and post. It will take a few days before I can get to it. Rob :-) _ Signature: Live like you'll die tomorrow! Reply: I tried your signature out once. It took years off my life! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:30 AM > To: XMail mailing list > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, > end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Rob Arends wrote: > > > If you'd care to re-investigate, I'll be happy to go > through it again. > > You said you had the packet trace from the XMail machine. Post it ... > > > > - Davide > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Rob Arends wrote: > If you'd care to re-investigate, I'll be happy to go through it again. You said you had the packet trace from the XMail machine. Post it ... - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
Davide Libenzi wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:06 AM > To: xmail@xmailserver.org > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, > end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Rob Arends wrote: > > > The weird bit is that Xmail will be able send to the domain > perfectly, until > > some time passes, then it only resolves to use the A record > host. A simple > > restart of Xmail fixes the problem (until next time). > > I have debugged the problem enough to know that the MS DNS > that Xmail is > > using for DNS lookups is presenting the correct data to > xmail (packet trace > > proves it) and it includes MX records. Xmail just doesn't > use them. Again > > I asked the list for assistance, which proved fruitless. > > Are you trolling or what? You never posted traces. On that very specific instance no, I didn't post traces. It was to prove to me what was happening, so I could work around the problem. > No, not trolling. With regard to the problem I posted about in Dec 2004 - I emailed both the list and Davide directly (Davide got real ip and email address detail in his emails) with lots of detail. In total there were nearly 10 emails between Davide and myself. But after a few emails for info and results being sent back, the thread died. I even asked what was happening next, and got no response. This is the first email that was sent to the list. http://www.mail-archive.com/xmail@xmailserver.org/msg11745.html The dns issue I had prior to this one is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/xmail@xmailserver.org/msg04589.html If you'd care to re-investigate, I'll be happy to go through it again. Rob :-) > > - Davide > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Rob Arends wrote: > That setup is that the MX records point to smtp servers, and the A record > for the domain happens to have an smtp server running that does not accept > incoming mail. > > I know Xmail will try A record hosts if MX record hosts fail, but (I think) > the RFC says this should only be done if there are no MX records for the > domain, not if connection to them fails. (The validity of this point is not > relevant). XMail sends to the A records if and only if the quesry for MX records fails. > The weird bit is that Xmail will be able send to the domain perfectly, until > some time passes, then it only resolves to use the A record host. A simple > restart of Xmail fixes the problem (until next time). > I have debugged the problem enough to know that the MS DNS that Xmail is > using for DNS lookups is presenting the correct data to xmail (packet trace > proves it) and it includes MX records. Xmail just doesn't use them. Again > I asked the list for assistance, which proved fruitless. Are you trolling or what? You never posted traces. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > Tony, thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem (for > now) because I always have used SMARTDNSHOST (since first contact with XMail). > I will try to do the opposite: NOT use SMARTDNSHOST and report the result to > you (and the list). > > Just remembering: > -I pointed SMARTDNSHOST to others flavors of DNS servers (djbdns and bind in > a freebsd box and microsoft dns servers in others networks) without success. > -To bypass the problem until a solution I'm forwarding all emails to > hotmail.com and msn.com to another server using microsoft smtp server (aka > CDONTS). > > >> [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > > >> << > > >> ErrCode = -162 > > >> ErrString = End of socket stream data > > >> SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > > >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! This tells two things: 1) XMail resolved the MX correctly 2) The mx1.hotmail.com. did a post-connection rejection of your SMTP client session - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Tony Shiffer wrote: > He was trying to trouble shoot this from an exchange perspective which > wasn't so helpful - but the conclusion he came to was a DNS problem. He > writes that the DNS server in his MS SBS 2003 is intermittently faulty - and > that having his SMTP server use his ISP's DNS resolved the issue. Exactly. They even tried to break the existing standards for DNS queries. > Then I thought about XMAIL and the choices we have. Without using > [SmartDNSHost] I think I remember reading that XMAIL just asks the operating > system to resolve DNS. Since none of our networks have any problems using > Microsoft DNS, I just didn't think it was the DNS server that was failing. > > So - I started using SmartDNSHost and pointing to the DNS server on the > machine on which XMAIL and the DNS server are running (instead of using > SmartDNSHost to tell XMAIL to use my ISP's DNS server as recommended in the > exchange article.) The Operating system itself, and the entire network it > supports are all configured to use the SAME DNS server, and does so without > problems. > > As soon as I began using SmartDNSHost, virtually ALL my lingering delivery > problems have ceased. Gone, poof! Zap! XMail, when used w/out the SmartDNSHost option set, perform full (from ".") DNS queries to get MX records. If you use SmartDNSHost, the query goes to the smart DNS host, with recursion bit set. Now, since all three reports came from MS setups, and since the MX resolution code is exactly the same for Unix and Win32, I lean towards the assumption that this might be some problem with the MS setup. A trace of the queries (and data received) done by XMail when used w/out SmartDNSHost would help. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
Tony, thanks for you help but unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem (for now) because I always have used SMARTDNSHOST (since first contact with XMail). I will try to do the opposite: NOT use SMARTDNSHOST and report the result to you (and the list). Just remembering: -I pointed SMARTDNSHOST to others flavors of DNS servers (djbdns and bind in a freebsd box and microsoft dns servers in others networks) without success. -To bypass the problem until a solution I'm forwarding all emails to hotmail.com and msn.com to another server using microsoft smtp server (aka CDONTS). Thank you Edinilson -Mensagem original- From: "Tony Shiffer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:51:55 -0300 To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC > Thanks to everyone for the great discussions. Eventually with your help our > trouble delivering to earthlink and some other email systems has been > resolved (fingers crossed). > > For our issue, the solution was found while reading an article about *ugh* > exchange servers of all things. (recommended reading somewhere in this list > a while ago) The author had our reject message perfectly : > > [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink > does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an > EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical > support. > 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] > > He didn't discuss any errors that might be similar to our ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data errors, we we had those too. But I > felt like those were just disconnects from servers my xmail server was > trying to connect to in error, just as in the author's original conclusion > about the nature of the earthlink message. > > He was trying to trouble shoot this from an exchange perspective which > wasn't so helpful - but the conclusion he came to was a DNS problem. He > writes that the DNS server in his MS SBS 2003 is intermittently faulty - and > that having his SMTP server use his ISP's DNS resolved the issue. > > Then I thought about XMAIL and the choices we have. Without using > [SmartDNSHost] I think I remember reading that XMAIL just asks the operating > system to resolve DNS. Since none of our networks have any problems using > Microsoft DNS, I just didn't think it was the DNS server that was failing. > > So - I started using SmartDNSHost and pointing to the DNS server on the > machine on which XMAIL and the DNS server are running (instead of using > SmartDNSHost to tell XMAIL to use my ISP's DNS server as recommended in the > exchange article.) The Operating system itself, and the entire network it > supports are all configured to use the SAME DNS server, and does so without > problems. > > As soon as I began using SmartDNSHost, virtually ALL my lingering delivery > problems have ceased. Gone, poof! Zap! > > So, the only thing that I changed was the way in which XMAIL reaches the dns > server. > I did NOT change the DNS server in any way. Without the SmartDNSHost entry, > XMAIL asks the operating system to resolve (which in turn is configured to > ask the SAME DNS server) , where when using SmartDNSHost XMAIL asks the DNS > server directly. > > It would seem XMAIL gets different results from the same DNS server, > depending upon how it reaches that server. > > I Hope this might help someone - heaven knows I was stuck on this and needed > the group to help get it fixed. > > What do you think - are my conclusions faulty? What do you think the > results mean? > > Edinilson I know it seems basic, but have you tried using SmartDNSHost? > Maybe I missed that in one of the messages. But try pointing it to the same > DNS server the OS is using (weird, I know) and see what happens. > > Tom Banting - your email was helpful also - have you resolved this issue for > your networks yet? > > Thanks to everyone who contributed! > Tony > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kroll, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:09 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > This is a Win2003 DNS issue. > > Some mailservers behind firewalls which do not allow transfer of UDP > > packets > > larger than 512 bytes may not be able to return the MX record > > > > If your firewall restricts UDP packet transfers though, you may want to > > verify that it will allow transfer of a MX record within the size > > limitations specified by RFC1035: > > > >
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com, earthlink, end of socket stream dtata, on windows PC
was the way in which XMAIL > reaches the dns server. > I did NOT change the DNS server in any way. Without the > SmartDNSHost entry, XMAIL asks the operating system to > resolve (which in turn is configured to ask the SAME DNS > server) , where when using SmartDNSHost XMAIL asks the DNS > server directly. > > It would seem XMAIL gets different results from the same DNS > server, depending upon how it reaches that server. > > I Hope this might help someone - heaven knows I was stuck on > this and needed the group to help get it fixed. > > What do you think - are my conclusions faulty? What do you > think the results mean? > > Edinilson I know it seems basic, but have you tried using > SmartDNSHost? > Maybe I missed that in one of the messages. But try pointing > it to the same DNS server the OS is using (weird, I know) and > see what happens. > > Tom Banting - your email was helpful also - have you resolved > this issue for your networks yet? > > Thanks to everyone who contributed! > Tony > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kroll, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:09 PM > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > This is a Win2003 DNS issue. > > Some mailservers behind firewalls which do not allow > transfer of UDP > > packets > > larger than 512 bytes may not be able to return the MX record > > > > If your firewall restricts UDP packet transfers though, you > may want to > > verify that it will allow transfer of a MX record within the size > > limitations specified by RFC1035: > > > > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1035.html > > > > Windows 2003 server has included Extension Mechanisms for > DNS (EDNS0) to > > allow larger packets. If you run this command on a 2003 > server: "dnscmd > > Server Name/Config /EnableEDnsProbes 0", it fixes it > without making any > > changes to the firewall. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Shiffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:39 PM > > To: xmail@xmailserver.org > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 > months. Never > > any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, > hotmail, and some > > others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if > the user resends > > the message - it goes through just fine. > > > > It includes the error -162's , and some times error text > that says that > > relaying is prohibited, or that the sender is not > recognized as being > > connected to that ISPs network (which they aren't, of course). > > > > We have investigated DNS, RDNS, as well as the infastructure (NICs, > > cabling, > > > > and even power supllies in the xmail server boxes.). Inone > case, we even > > had the ISP (level3.com) replace the network cable all the > way from our > > rack, back to the main switch. Nothing has made any difference. > > > > It happens on xmail 1.13 run on one old box, and xmail 1.20. - both > > Windows > > boxes. These boxes are in different locations on different > subnets so > > they > > have nothing in common as far as ISP, hosting location, or > domains being > > handled by xmail. > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > > >> Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: > >> nslookup -type=MX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 > >> it is being resolved without problems. > >> > >> Below a SLOG from spool: > >> > >> > >> [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > >> << > >> ErrCode = -162 > >> ErrString = End of socket stream data > >> SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > > Snip > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Very long thread here ... Just four questions : - Did you report your problem to hotmail ? If you did not change anything on your server and it worked=20 before, and sudently stop working only with hotmail, and after=20 some basic tests (clear local dns, server cache, clear xmail dns=20 cache, verify your ptr records, nslookup to hotmail mx, nslookup=20 for ptr record, ..., try sending to hotmail with telnet on same=20 machine, verify or add spf records as hotmail use them, ...=20 seems most of these tests where already done) THEN contact hotmail ... Seems something at hotmail was changed recently or you are now=20 'blacklisted' internaly at hotmail for some (bad) reasons=20 (new policies at hotmail ? bug at hotmail that spuriously block=20 some servers ...) - Are you using filters ? in xmail server or in the path between your xmail server and hotmail servers ? See if any have been recently updated ? (bug in update, ...) - Did you try to do smtp traffic analyse (using basic Microsoft windows network analyser freely installable from add/remove in windows component or free analysers like very good etherreal) to track smtp sessions with hotmail to see when the problem starts=20 in the session ? This can help to find the underlaying problem ... - Did you try sending to hotmail.com with a smtpgw.tab line pointing to the smtp server at your internet connection provider (or a not hotmail blocked smtp server from a friend) to confirm=20 that in this case mails are received by hotmail normally ? "hotmail.com"[TAB]"" This can temporary resolve your problem with hotmail (if you have no possible gateway to use, ask me) and confirm taht this is not a mail or session content/format problem ... Francis -Message d'origine- De : edinilson@atinet.com.br [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : vendredi 18 mars 2005 00:37 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Problems with hotmail.com After a week without solution I made a test to eliminate lan and dns problems. Using smtpfwd.tab to forward all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to = a server with CDONTS (Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service) inside our lan I = could see that all messages were delivered without problems. BUT my XMail server couldn't send them directly. I changed xmail's = server ip address but without success. Could someone give me a light about this problem? Thanks Edinilson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Hi I a from Brazil and use the XMail 1.21, i have test my server sending messages to my hotmail.com account and works fine, but i have the same experience problem at some time in the past, nothing it was changed in the server. I really do not know to explain. Luis A S C Junior - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: [xmail] Problems with hotmail.com > After a week without solution I made a test to eliminate lan and dns problems. > Using smtpfwd.tab to forward all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to a server with CDONTS (Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service) inside our lan I could see that all messages were delivered without problems. > > BUT my XMail server couldn't send them directly. I changed xmail's server ip address but without success. > > Could someone give me a light about this problem? > > Thanks > > Edinilson - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
I only can tell you what is my scenario to help you: - My LAN works with Xmail 1.21 (2 of them) over W2000 servers behind a Linux firewall; - My internet connection is ADSL (yes I do!), so my ip is in a dial-up range; - I´ve got a legal domain name (.com) hosted in DynDns.org; - I´ve configured SPF records; - I´ve tested my self with 'http://www.abuse.net/relay.html' in order to pass 'open relay´tests; - The firewall RESPONDS to icmp queries (this is important for some SMTP servers) - My users CAN send email directly to Hotmail (I don´t use my ISP smtp server). Sergio edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: >After a week without solution I made a test to eliminate lan and dns problems. >Using smtpfwd.tab to forward all messages to hotmail.com and msn.com to a >server with CDONTS (Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service) inside our lan I could see >that all messages were delivered without problems. > >BUT my XMail server couldn't send them directly. I changed xmail's server ip >address but without success. > >Could someone give me a light about this problem? > >Thanks > >Edinilson >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
At 00:09 3/13/2005, Kroll, David wrote: >This is a Win2003 DNS issue. >Some mailservers behind firewalls which do not allow transfer of UDP packets >larger than 512 bytes may not be able to return the MX record > >If your firewall restricts UDP packet transfers though, you may want to >verify that it will allow transfer of a MX record within the size >limitations specified by RFC1035: > >http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1035.html > >Windows 2003 server has included Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS0) to >allow larger packets. If you run this command on a 2003 server: "dnscmd >Server Name/Config /EnableEDnsProbes 0", it fixes it without making any >changes to the firewall. OK, did I miss something, or have UDP-based DNS messages been changed since the last time I looked? Nope... Still a 512 octet message length (section 2.3.4). Any UDP-based DNS message longer than that is not RFC compliant, and (IMHO) should be blocked. That's why there's a method to fall back to TCP when there's more data to be returned than will fit in a 512 octet message If there's an RFC that allows larger packets in UDP, could you reference it please? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
This is a Win2003 DNS issue. Some mailservers behind firewalls which do not allow transfer of UDP packets larger than 512 bytes may not be able to return the MX record If your firewall restricts UDP packet transfers though, you may want to verify that it will allow transfer of a MX record within the size limitations specified by RFC1035: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1035.html Windows 2003 server has included Extension Mechanisms for DNS (EDNS0) to allow larger packets. If you run this command on a 2003 server: "dnscmd Server Name/Config /EnableEDnsProbes 0", it fixes it without making any changes to the firewall. -Original Message- From: Tony Shiffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:39 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends the message - it goes through just fine. It includes the error -162's , and some times error text that says that relaying is prohibited, or that the sender is not recognized as being connected to that ISPs network (which they aren't, of course). We have investigated DNS, RDNS, as well as the infastructure (NICs, cabling, and even power supllies in the xmail server boxes.). Inone case, we even had the ISP (level3.com) replace the network cable all the way from our rack, back to the main switch. Nothing has made any difference. It happens on xmail 1.13 run on one old box, and xmail 1.20. - both Windows boxes. These boxes are in different locations on different subnets so they have nothing in common as far as ISP, hosting location, or domains being handled by xmail. Tony - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: > nslookup -type=MX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 > it is being resolved without problems. > > Below a SLOG from spool: > > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >>> > [PeekTime] 1110537291 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:34:51 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = &qu
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
I usually use the "spam database lookup" on http://dnsstuff.com/. It seems a little more thorough than ordb.org. Edinilson's subnet appears to be listed on JAMMDNSBL... though I doubt hotmail uses that list. --John null wrote: >Greetings all, > I couldn't agree with you more on ALL counts. I hate to sound like >a "me too". But I/ we host a few black lists (RBL's). So I thought >that it seemed the most likely resolution would be to check with >the problem domains (hotmail, earthlink) and see who they are using >as an RBL. Themselves, or one of the well known ones: >http://ordb.org/submit/ is a great way to check if your listed most >anywhere, and hence, blocked. > >--Chris > >P.S. *BSD truly *is* the best choice. ;) > > > > >>Perhaps the problem is that you are running Windows servers rather than >>Linux, or even better, *BSD? >>Or perhaps I shouldn't take advantage of this mail list to express >>personal preferences? >>No need to reply to that ... I'm just kidding. :) >> >>However, and this probably doesn't help, I haven't had any of the >>problems you are describing. It almost sounds like it might be a >>geographical location issue (?). I have users sending to Hotmail >>regularly, as well as Earthlink accounts, and there haven't been any >>problems - I may have a lower volume than you do, though. >> >>The only thing I can think of that seems to be a significant general >>change is SPF - is it possible that this is related to that? Also, have >>you verified that your IP isn't on any blacklists? Both Earthlink and >>Hotmail have upped their anti-spam campaign pretty heavily. >> >>Thats all I can think of! >> >>Jeff >> >>Tom Banting wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have seen this too. Earthlink says: >>>[<00>] XMail bounce: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink >>>does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an >>>EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical >>>support. >>>550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] >>> >>> >>> >>>At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: >>>We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. >>>Never >>>any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some >>>others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends >>>the message - it goes through just fine. >>>- >>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
By the way, now that I have had time to read these links a bit more (a small Friday night party in my backyard got in the way), if you are running exchange, this article might actually help you! Strangely enough, I was (possibly) more correct in pointing the finger at Windows (and the Windows DNS implementation, and Exchange) than I thought. However, FreeBSD (my system of choice) was until recently opening and not closing hundreds of file handles because of a bug in the code, so lets keep this about solving the problem and not Windows. The good news is that Linux and FreeBSD users can modify the code and recompile when problems come up! Yay! Whoops, there I go ... Anyway, check this out - I hope it helps. http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2004/06/02/exchangeproblems Jeff Jeff Buehler wrote: >Are any of you running (gasp. gurgle. urgh.) Exchange? Here is what >some simple Google searches turned up about the Earthlink thing: > >http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/24495/24495.html >http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2004/06/02/exchangeproblems >http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=2676&ID=%3Cu9zOjJ3HFHA.3108%40tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl%3E >http://www.mcse.ms/archive79-2004-1-236177.html > >Jeff > >Tony Shiffer wrote: > > > >>Yep - thats the message all right. >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Tom Banting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:42 PM >>Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I have seen this too. Earthlink says: >>>[<00>] XMail bounce: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink >>>does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an >>>EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical >>>support. >>>550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] >>> >>> >>> >>>At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: >>>We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never >>>any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some >>>others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends >>>the message - it goes through just fine. >>>- >>>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Are any of you running (gasp. gurgle. urgh.) Exchange? Here is what some simple Google searches turned up about the Earthlink thing: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/24495/24495.html http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2004/06/02/exchangeproblems http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=2676&ID=%3Cu9zOjJ3HFHA.3108%40tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl%3E http://www.mcse.ms/archive79-2004-1-236177.html Jeff Tony Shiffer wrote: >Yep - thats the message all right. > >- Original Message - >From: "Tom Banting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:42 PM >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > > >>I have seen this too. Earthlink says: >>[<00>] XMail bounce: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink >>does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an >>EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical >>support. >>550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] >> >> >> >>At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: >>We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never >>any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some >>others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends >>the message - it goes through just fine. >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Yep - thats the message all right. - Original Message - From: "Tom Banting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > I have seen this too. Earthlink says: > [<00>] XMail bounce: > [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink > does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an > EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical > support. > 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] > > > > At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: > We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never > any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some > others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends > the message - it goes through just fine. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Greetings all, I couldn't agree with you more on ALL counts. I hate to sound like a "me too". But I/ we host a few black lists (RBL's). So I thought that it seemed the most likely resolution would be to check with the problem domains (hotmail, earthlink) and see who they are using as an RBL. Themselves, or one of the well known ones: http://ordb.org/submit/ is a great way to check if your listed most anywhere, and hence, blocked. --Chris P.S. *BSD truly *is* the best choice. ;) > Perhaps the problem is that you are running Windows servers rather than > Linux, or even better, *BSD? > Or perhaps I shouldn't take advantage of this mail list to express > personal preferences? > No need to reply to that ... I'm just kidding. :) > > However, and this probably doesn't help, I haven't had any of the > problems you are describing. It almost sounds like it might be a > geographical location issue (?). I have users sending to Hotmail > regularly, as well as Earthlink accounts, and there haven't been any > problems - I may have a lower volume than you do, though. > > The only thing I can think of that seems to be a significant general > change is SPF - is it possible that this is related to that? Also, have > you verified that your IP isn't on any blacklists? Both Earthlink and > Hotmail have upped their anti-spam campaign pretty heavily. > > Thats all I can think of! > > Jeff > > Tom Banting wrote: > >> I have seen this too. Earthlink says: >>[<00>] XMail bounce: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink >>does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an >>EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical >>support. >>550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] >> >> >> >>At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: >>We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. >> Never >>any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some >>others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends >>the message - it goes through just fine. >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Perhaps the problem is that you are running Windows servers rather than Linux, or even better, *BSD? Or perhaps I shouldn't take advantage of this mail list to express personal preferences? No need to reply to that ... I'm just kidding. :) However, and this probably doesn't help, I haven't had any of the problems you are describing. It almost sounds like it might be a geographical location issue (?). I have users sending to Hotmail regularly, as well as Earthlink accounts, and there haven't been any problems - I may have a lower volume than you do, though. The only thing I can think of that seems to be a significant general change is SPF - is it possible that this is related to that? Also, have you verified that your IP isn't on any blacklists? Both Earthlink and Hotmail have upped their anti-spam campaign pretty heavily. Thats all I can think of! Jeff Tom Banting wrote: > I have seen this too. Earthlink says: >[<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink >does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an >EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical >support. >550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] > > > >At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: >We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never >any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some >others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends >the message - it goes through just fine. >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
I have seen this too. Earthlink says: [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[550-EarthLink does not recognize your computer (209.121.70.9) as connecting from an EarthLink connection. If this is in error, please contact technical support. 550 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator] At 04:39 PM 11/03/2005, you wrote: We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends the message - it goes through just fine. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
We have started to get these same errors - for the last 2-3 months. Never any before then. It has happened sending to earthlink, hotmail, and some others. Its does not allways seem to happen. Often, if the user resends the message - it goes through just fine. It includes the error -162's , and some times error text that says that relaying is prohibited, or that the sender is not recognized as being connected to that ISPs network (which they aren't, of course). We have investigated DNS, RDNS, as well as the infastructure (NICs, cabling, and even power supllies in the xmail server boxes.). Inone case, we even had the ISP (level3.com) replace the network cable all the way from our rack, back to the main switch. Nothing has made any difference. It happens on xmail 1.13 run on one old box, and xmail 1.20. - both Windows boxes. These boxes are in different locations on different subnets so they have nothing in common as far as ISP, hosting location, or domains being handled by xmail. Tony - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: > nslookup -type=MX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 > it is being resolved without problems. > > Below a SLOG from spool: > > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >>> > [PeekTime] 1110537291 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:34:51 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >>> > [PeekTime] 1110537580 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:39:40 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hot
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
90% of the time xmail fails to delivery messages to @hotmail.com accounts. Edinilson -Mensagem original- From: Bill Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:06:15 -0300 To: "'xmail@xmailserver.org'" xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > Does xmail always fail sending to hotmail or just some of the time? If > just some of the time then try several manual telnet sessions at > different times and see if you get the same results. > > Bill > > > >-- > >From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent:Friday, March 11, 2005 9:22 AM > >To: xmail@xmailserver.org > >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > >Davide, I think that hotmail hired a new Italian postmaster recently because > >something is strange with this problem... ;) > > > >Below a manually telnet session made directly from xmail server machine to > >hotmail: > > > >220 MC6-F18.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail to > >Microso > >ft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found at > >http://priv > >acy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment located in > >Ca > >lifornia and other states. Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:22 -0800 > >250 MC6-F18.hotmail.com (3.0.1.18) Hello [200.231.29.16] > >250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK > >250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >354 Start mail input; end with . > >250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for > >delivery > > > >Thank you > > > >Edinilson > > > >-Mensagem original- > >From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org > >Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:06 -0300 > >To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org > >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > > > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > >> > >> > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > >> > << > >> > ErrCode = -162 > >> > ErrString = End of socket stream data > >> > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > >> > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > >> > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > >> > >> > << > >> > ErrCode = -232 > >> > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > >> > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = > >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > >> > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > >> > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> > >> > >> > >> The connection does not even born, or it is rejected soon after > >> establishment. Try to run a telnet SMTP session manually, from inside your > >> net first, and from another net in your area (if you can). Maybe Hotmail's > >> postmaster is an Italian and does not like Brazil since they have more > >> World Cup than we do ;) > >> > >> > >> - Davide > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >- > >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Does xmail always fail sending to hotmail or just some of the time? If just some of the time then try several manual telnet sessions at different times and see if you get the same results. Bill >-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:22 AM >To:xmail@xmailserver.org >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > >Davide, I think that hotmail hired a new Italian postmaster recently because >something is strange with this problem... ;) > >Below a manually telnet session made directly from xmail server machine to >hotmail: > >220 MC6-F18.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail to >Microso >ft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found at >http://priv >acy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment located in >Ca >lifornia and other states. Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:22 -0800 >250 MC6-F18.hotmail.com (3.0.1.18) Hello [200.231.29.16] >250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK >250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >354 Start mail input; end with . >250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for >delivery > >Thank you > >Edinilson > >-Mensagem original- >From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org >Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:06 -0300 >To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: >> >> > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 >> > << >> > ErrCode = -162 >> > ErrString = End of socket stream data >> > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >> > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" >> > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> > >> >> > << >> > ErrCode = -232 >> > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address >> > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >> > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" >> > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> > >> >> >> The connection does not even born, or it is rejected soon after >> establishment. Try to run a telnet SMTP session manually, from inside your >> net first, and from another net in your area (if you can). Maybe Hotmail's >> postmaster is an Italian and does not like Brazil since they have more >> World Cup than we do ;) >> >> >> - Davide >> >> - >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >> the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Davide, I think that hotmail hired a new Italian postmaster recently because something is strange with this problem... ;) Below a manually telnet session made directly from xmail server machine to hotmail: 220 MC6-F18.hotmail.com Sending unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail to Microso ft's computer network is prohibited. Other restrictions are found at http://priv acy.msn.com/Anti-spam/. Violations will result in use of equipment located in Ca lifornia and other states. Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:22 -0800 250 MC6-F18.hotmail.com (3.0.1.18) Hello [200.231.29.16] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 354 Start mail input; end with . 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery Thank you Edinilson -Mensagem original- From: Davide Libenzi davidel@xmailserver.org Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:06 -0300 To: XMail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > > > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > > << > > ErrCode = -162 > > ErrString = End of socket stream data > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > > >> > > << > > ErrCode = -232 > > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > > >> > > The connection does not even born, or it is rejected soon after > establishment. Try to run a telnet SMTP session manually, from inside your > net first, and from another net in your area (if you can). Maybe Hotmail's > postmaster is an Italian and does not like Brazil since they have more > World Cup than we do ;) > > > - Davide > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Hello Alexander, Friday, March 11, 2005, 9:01:51 AM, you wrote: AH> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Friday, March 11, 2005 2:30 PM: >> Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: >> nslookup -type=3DMX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 >> it is being resolved without problems. >>=20 >> Below a SLOG from spool: >> [slog snipped] AH> ..-- AH> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep '(-162)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h; AH> | grep '(-232)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h AH> | #define ERR_SOCK_NOMORE_DATA(-162) AH> | #define ERR_CONNECT (-232) AH> *-- AH> (-162) doesn't tell me a lot, but -232 (ERR_CONNECT) sounds like there AH> is no possibility for xmail to connect to hotmail.com on STMP-Layer. AH> --=20 AH> Regards, AH> Alexander Hagenah Go here, http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/[EMAIL PROTECTED] They have 16 MX servers, only 4 MX records, and you are stuck in a crap shoot. You happen to cache 4 down servers, untill you hit TTL, you are out of luck. Then you have to pray the next round gets you live servers. -- Best regards, Charlesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 edinilson@atinet.com.br wrote: > [PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 > << > ErrCode = -162 > ErrString = End of socket stream data > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL > PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." > >> > << > ErrCode = -232 > ErrString = Error connecting to remote address > SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL > PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." > >> The connection does not even born, or it is rejected soon after establishment. Try to run a telnet SMTP session manually, from inside your net first, and from another net in your area (if you can). Maybe Hotmail's postmaster is an Italian and does not like Brazil since they have more World Cup than we do ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Friday, March 11, 2005 2:30 PM: > Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: > nslookup -type=3DMX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 > it is being resolved without problems. >=20 > Below a SLOG from spool: > [slog snipped] ..-- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep '(-162)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h; | grep '(-232)' /home/src/xmail-1.21/Errors.h | #define ERR_SOCK_NOMORE_DATA(-162) | #define ERR_CONNECT (-232) *-- (-162) doesn't tell me a lot, but -232 (ERR_CONNECT) sounds like there is no possibility for xmail to connect to hotmail.com on STMP-Layer. --=20 Regards, Alexander Hagenah - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
Try telneting to mx1.hotmail.com smtp port and sending a message by hand and see what messages you get back and at what point in the transaction. Bill >-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 AM >To:xmail@xmailserver.org >Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > >Yes, issuing at DOS prompt: >nslookup -type=3DMX hotmail.com 200.231.29.10 >it is being resolved without problems. > >Below a SLOG from spool: > > >[PeekTime] 1110537048 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:30:48 -0300 ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -232 >ErrString =3D Error connecting to remote address >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." >>> >[PeekTime] 1110537291 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:34:51 -0300 ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -232 >ErrString =3D Error connecting to remote address >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx4.hotmail.com." >>> >[PeekTime] 1110537580 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:39:40 -0300 ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx1.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream data >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx2.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -232 >ErrString =3D Error connecting to remote address >SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP =3D "mailserver" From = =3D >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! >SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" >SMTP-Server =3D "mx3.hotmail.com." >>> ><< >ErrCode =3D -162 >ErrString =3D End of socket stream dat
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
tring = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110541635 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:47:15 -0300 << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110543000 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:10:00 -0300 << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110544716 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:38:36 -0300 << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -232 ErrString = Error connecting to remote address SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> [PeekTime] 1110546850 : Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:14:10 -0300 << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx1.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx1.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx2.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx2.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx3.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx3.hotmail.com." >> << ErrCode = -162 ErrString = End of socket stream data SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = "mx4.hotmail.com." SMTP = "mailserver" From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! SMTP-Error = "417 Temporary delivery error" SMTP-Server = "mx4.hotmail.com." >> -Mensagem original- From: Sönke Ruempler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:36:21 -0300 To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> wrote on Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:28 > PM: > > > We run XMail since version 0.69 (without any problem) in a > > Windows 2000 > > Server (nowadays we are running version 1.21) > > But these days we are with a very strange problem that > > happens only with > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] accounts. > >=20 > > For some reason all messages to hotmail.com returns with the maximum > > number of retries has been reached. > >=20 > > Looking at spool I see: > > 417 Temporary delivery error > > Can you lookup hotmail.com (A/MX) on your server? 417 means commonly > some DNS lookup problems ... > > Please post the complete slog files. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <> wrote on Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:28 PM: > We run XMail since version 0.69 (without any problem) in a > Windows 2000 > Server (nowadays we are running version 1.21) > But these days we are with a very strange problem that > happens only with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] accounts. >=20 > For some reason all messages to hotmail.com returns with the maximum > number of retries has been reached. >=20 > Looking at spool I see: > 417 Temporary delivery error Can you lookup hotmail.com (A/MX) on your server? 417 means commonly some DNS lookup problems ... Please post the complete slog files. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
RDNS was created years ago (we are an ISP since 1996) and is working fine (http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=atinet.com.br) We have created spf records too but the problem persists. Any idea? Thank you Edinilson -Mensagem original- From: "Alexander Hagenah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:50:47 -0300 To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:28 > PM: > > > For some reason all messages to hotmail.com returns with the maximum > > number of retries has been reached. > > > > Looking at spool I see: > > 417 Temporary delivery error > > I'm not sure, but I expect Hotmail does a RDNS-Check on your mailserver. > Check your "Reverse DNS" at http://www.dnsstuff.com/ (enter your > IP-adress under Reverse DNS Lookup). > Anyway, reverse resolution is a must in these days. > > -- > > With kind regards, > Alexander Hagenah > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problems with hotmail.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:28 PM: > For some reason all messages to hotmail.com returns with the maximum > number of retries has been reached. > > Looking at spool I see: > 417 Temporary delivery error I'm not sure, but I expect Hotmail does a RDNS-Check on your mailserver. Check your "Reverse DNS" at http://www.dnsstuff.com/ (enter your IP-adress under Reverse DNS Lookup). Anyway, reverse resolution is a must in these days. -- With kind regards, Alexander Hagenah - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
