Re: [Xpert]Dual-Head on ATI Mobility 7500?

[Jeremy Wilkins]

Could you email your XF86Config?

Does anyone know if this is likely to work with a trident cyberblade?

thanks

jeremy

Thomas Estaben wrote:


Try to search some documentation about the Xinerama extension of 
Xfree. I use
it with a mobility 7500, and i have no problem with Dual-Head.

Tom

On Saturday 23 November 2002 02:15, Hugh Caley wrote:

I have a new Dell Latitude 640 laptop, and would like to run a second
monitor from the SVGA output.  This works fine from Win XP, but I can't
figure out how to get it to work under RedHat 8.0/XFree86 4.2.  Is it
possible?  The output, when it works, seems to be only mirrored.  It
evidently uses an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.

Hugh

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[Xpert]Dual-head Gnome / GDM workin with NVidia on Mandrake 9 but (help...please)

[João Leonardo Fragoso]

the CRT device is the first screen while the LCD is the second one. May I
change it?
I sent my XF86Config file.

However, wheter i set TwinMode off, i can use the hot keys to switch between
my monitors but when I try to use LCD+CRT togheter (as TwinMode=on and
Orientation=Clone) the LCD resolution becomes 640x480. How do i fix it?
I expect to use 1600x1200 resolution at the 2 screens...

Thanks...



XF86Config-4
Description: Binary data

Re: [Xpert]Dual-Head on ATI Mobility 7500?

[Thomas Estaben]

Try to search some documentation about the Xinerama extension of Xfree. I use 
it with a mobility 7500, and i have no problem with Dual-Head.

Tom

On Saturday 23 November 2002 02:15, Hugh Caley wrote:
 I have a new Dell Latitude 640 laptop, and would like to run a second
 monitor from the SVGA output.  This works fine from Win XP, but I can't
 figure out how to get it to work under RedHat 8.0/XFree86 4.2.  Is it
 possible?  The output, when it works, seems to be only mirrored.  It
 evidently uses an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.

 Hugh

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[Xpert]Dual-head Gnome / GDM non-Xinerama working with Matrox G450 on RedHat7.3

[Dietmar May]

I searched for information about running multi-head Gnome GDM (or XDM) 
sessions with XFree, but couldn't really find anything to indicate that 
it was possible. As a matter of fact, some of the gnome mailing lists 
basically said, Wait for gnome 2.2.

However, I did manage to get it working. There may be a cleaner way, but 
here's what I did. I hope this can help someone else get it going too. 
(Who knows, that someone may be me in 4 months after I've forgotten 
exactly what changes to make :-)).

These changes apply to RedHat 7.3 with Gnome (and no KDE) installed. 
From what I've read dual-head with separate window manager sessions 
should work almost out of the box using KDE (unconfirmed). 
Unfortunately, all of RedHat's tools are based on Gnome, RedHat doesn't 
update their KDE RPMs, and KDE doesn't support stable RedHat releases. 
So, I'm stuck using Gnome, not having the time or inclination to hack 
around trying to get a known good KDE environment running on RH 7.3. But 
all that has no bearing on the technical aspects; it's just why someone 
might bother to try.

Your mileage may vary.

1. Edit XF86Config-4. Add a second Screen section, and a second Display 
section. Both should be a duplicate of the existing sections.

Next, change the Identifier for the second Display and Screen sections 
to be unique.

Use scanpci to obtain the BusID for the display adapter. If you have two 
PCI adapters or a separate PCI and AGP adapter, the BusID for the two 
Display sections will be different. If you have a single dual-head G450, 
it should be identical. In this latter case, add a Screen line to both 
Display sections - the first being Screen 0 and the second being Screen 1.

Make any other obviously necessary changes (like display resolutions, 
color depths, monitor parameters, etc).

Here are the sections from my XF86Config-4 file:

---

Section Device
	Identifier   Matrox G450 Head1
Driver   mga
VendorName   Matrox
BoardNameMillennium G450 AGP
BusIDPCI:1:0:0
	Screen   0
EndSection

Section Device
	Identifier   Matrox G450 Head2
Driver   mga
VendorName   Matrox
BoardNameMillennium G450 AGP
BusIDPCI:1:0:0
	Screen   1
EndSection

Section Screen
	Identifier   Screen0
Device   Matrox G450 Head1
Monitor  Dell P991
	DefaultDepth 16
	Subsection Display
Depth16
# demonstrates different display resolutions on one screen
# e.g. for a 15 LCD and a Multi-scan monitor
Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
#   Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
	EndSubsection
EndSection

Section Screen
	Identifier   Screen1
Device   Matrox G450 Head2
Monitor  Dell P991
	DefaultDepth 16
	Subsection Display
Depth16
Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
	EndSubsection
EndSection

---

Finally, add a second Screen line to the ServerLayout, referencing the 
newly added Screen section.

---

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
	Screen  1  Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

---

2. At this point, you should be able to bring up X (startx), and see the 
gdm or xdm login screen on Screen0, and a gray screen with the X cursor 
on Screen1. After logging in, Gnome should start on Screen0. Screen1 
should still be gray.

Now edit the file /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients. The key here is to invoke 
gnome-session twice, passing --display=:0.1 to one of the sessions. 
There are cleaner ways to do this, but this has minimal impact on the 
system configuration (in other words, if you don't have a second screen 
configured, it should work like the stock install). Note that the script 
greps for LeftOf or RightOf in the config file -- you could add Above, 
Below, and Relative as well if needed.

---

#!/bin/bash
# Copyright 1999 - 2001 Red Hat, Inc.
# License:  GNU General Public License v2

# check to see if the user has a preferred desktop
PREFERRED=
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/desktop ]; then
if [ -n `grep -i GNOME /etc/sysconfig/desktop` ]; then
	PREFERRED=gnome-session
elif [ -n `grep -i KDE /etc/sysconfig/desktop` ]; then
	PREFERRED=startkde
fi
fi

if [ -n $PREFERRED ]  which $PREFERRED /dev/null 21; then
PREFERRED=`which $PREFERRED`
if $PREFERRED = gnome-session ; then
  if [ -n `grep LeftOf\|RightOf /etc/X11/XF86Config-4` ]; then
  $PREFERRED --display=:0.1 
  exec $PREFERRED --display=:0.0
  else
  exec $PREFERRED
  fi
fi
fi

# now if we can reach here, either no desktop file was present,
# or the desktop requested is not installed.

if [ -z $PREFERRED ]; then

GSESSION=gnome-session
STARTKDE=startkde

# by default, we run GNOME.
if which $GSESSION /dev/null 21; then
  

[Xpert]Dual-Head on ATI Mobility 7500?

[Hugh Caley]

I have a new Dell Latitude 640 laptop, and would like to run a second 
monitor from the SVGA output.  This works fine from Win XP, but I can't 
figure out how to get it to work under RedHat 8.0/XFree86 4.2.  Is it 
possible?  The output, when it works, seems to be only mirrored.  It 
evidently uses an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.

Hugh

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Okay, I've got the second monitor to switch on, but the Gnome desktop 
doesn't extend to it.  Also, X isn't repainting the screen right, I get 
GUI fragments a lot especially when scrolling with the mouse. Here's my 
config and my log files...

-- 
-- Ignacio Valdes,MD,MS Editor: Linux Medical News
http://www.linuxmednews.com
'Revolutionizing Medical Education and Practice'



# File generated by anaconda.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

# NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

# DontZoom
Option Xinerama on
EndSection

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load fbdevhw
Load dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard

#   Option  AutoRepeat500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#   Option  Protocol  Xqueue

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  Xleds 1 2 3

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  XkbModel  pc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  XkbModel  microsoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
# or:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
#   Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  XkbOptionsctrl:nocaps
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  microsoft
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  XkbVariantbasic
#Option XkbOptions
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050  60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  184   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050  60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync 

[Xpert]Dual head support

[Rick Seiden]

I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I could not find it in the
archives.

I have Mandrake 8.2 running on a Celeron 700 machine with two video cards
that I used under Windows98 for dual monitor support. I believe they are a
trident 9750, and the other an S3Virge of some sort (obviously, I need to
get the exact details on this before I begin).

What I'm looking for is a set of documentation on setting up dual head
support under XFree86 4.x.  I have searched and searched, and can't find
one.  Could someone please point me in the direction of a set of docs?

Thanks
Rick Seiden


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[Xpert]dual head sync/memory problem

[Joseph Brian Kelly]

I currently upgraded my system from Redhat 6.2 to 7.3.  I used to
control multiple monitors in Redhat 6.2 using XiGraphics accel-x
software.  I am tyring to get the dual werking under XFree86 4.2.0
using xinerama and am running into problems.  I have two of the same
monitors (ViewSonic G810-2) and two of the same video cards (Matrox
G200 pci) making the setup that much easier.  All should be working
fine but the first video card is reporting 8mb memory in the log file
(check mark) the second only reports 4mb (error, should be 8 as
well).  This causes different Modelines to be developed for the exact
same cards which causing the second video card to display incorrect
video with weird sync's.  Any help would be appreciated.


--  XFree86Config-4

Section Files

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load fbdevhw
Load dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
#Option XkbVariant
#Option XkbOptions
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol PS/2
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30-92
VertRefresh 50-180
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  184   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30-92
VertRefresh 50-180
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  184   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen0
Device   Matrox Millennium G200-0
Monitor  Monitor0
DefaultDepth24

Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1600x1200 1600x1200 
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen1
Device   Matrox Millennium G200-1
Monitor  Monitor1
DefaultDepth24

Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1600x1200 1600x1200 
EndSubsection

EndSection


Section Device
# no known options
Identifier   Matrox Millennium G200-0
Driver   mga
VendorName   Matrox Millennium G200
BoardName Matrox Millennium G200

BusIDPCI:0:16:0
#Screen   0
EndSection

Section Device
# no known options
Identifier   Matrox Millennium G200-1
Driver   mga
VendorName   Matrox Millennium G200
BoardName Matrox Millennium G200

BusIDPCI:0:19:0
#Screen   1
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
#Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Option Xinerama   on
Option Clone  off
Screen Screen0 Leftof Screen1
Screen Screen1
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection




--  /var/log/XFree86.0.log


XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8) / X Window
System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 

[Xpert]Dual head support

[Rick Seiden]

I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I could not find it in the
archives.

I have Mandrake 8.2 running on a Celeron 700 machine with two video cards
that I used under Windows98 for dual monitor support. I believe they are a
trident 9750, and the other an S3Virge of some sort (obviously, I need to
get the exact details on this before I begin).

What I'm looking for is a set of documentation on setting up dual head
support under XFree86 4.x.  I have searched and searched, and can't find
one.  Could someone please point me in the direction of a set of docs?

Thanks
Rick Seiden



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Re: [Xpert]Dual head support

[Dr Andrew C Aitchison]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Rick Seiden wrote:

 I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I could not find it in the
 archives.
 
 I have Mandrake 8.2 running on a Celeron 700 machine with two video cards
 that I used under Windows98 for dual monitor support. I believe they are a
 trident 9750, and the other an S3Virge of some sort (obviously, I need to
 get the exact details on this before I begin).
 
 What I'm looking for is a set of documentation on setting up dual head
 support under XFree86 4.x.  I have searched and searched, and can't find
 one.  Could someone please point me in the direction of a set of docs?

I don't know of any explicit docs, but running
X -configure
should give you a config file ~root/XF86Config.new
Copy this to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  to get you started.

From there, see ServerLayout in 'man XF86Config' to get the screens
in the right positions.

-- 
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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Okay, I've got the second monitor to switch on, but the Gnome desktop 
doesn't extend to it. It is just blank and the cursor won't go onto it 
as well. Also, my primary monitor somehow changed from the AGP/Radeon to 
the PCI/Nvidia but I want it to be the other way around. I could 
probably just switch the cables to the monitors, but if I can do it in 
software... Here's my latest XF86Config-4:




# File generated by anaconda.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
Option Xinerama on
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

# NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

# DontZoom
EndSection

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load fbdevhw
Load dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard

#   Option  AutoRepeat500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#   Option  Protocol  Xqueue

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  Xleds 1 2 3

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  XkbModel  pc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  XkbModel  microsoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
# or:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
#   Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  XkbOptionsctrl:nocaps
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  microsoft
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  XkbVariantbasic
#Option XkbOptions
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050  60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  184   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050  60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  

[Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 GOING!!!

[Ignacio Valdes]

It works now. Didn't change anything, just rebooted and poof! both 
screens work. Thanks! -- IV

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:

 Okay, I've got the second monitor to switch on, but the Gnome desktop 
 doesn't extend to it. It is just blank and the cursor won't go onto it 
 as well. 

Can I see the /var/log/XFree86.0.log from that? 
Which card is it that is blank?   
Which card does the textmode console come up on?

 Also, my primary monitor somehow changed from the AGP/Radeon to 
 the PCI/Nvidia but I want it to be the other way around. I could 
 probably just switch the cables to the monitors, but if I can do it in 
 software... Here's my latest XF86Config-4:

   Change the LeftOf in the ServerLayout to RightOf to switch the
locations.


Mark.
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[Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

  (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4


You're reading the wrong config file.  The one you posted was an
XFree86 version 3 config file.  By the looks of the server output,
your config file isn't even setup for multihead.


Mark.  


Ack, I am using digest mode and I don't know how to reply to this 
without starting a new thread with the same subject line, help. My 
XF86Config file was generated automatically by RH 7.3 on a clean 
install, how can it be for version 3 of X? I thought 3 stopped being the 
default X several versions back. I do have a XF86Config-4 which I have 
done nothing too (that I am including) in my /etc/X11 as well as a 
XF86Config. Which one is the one that is actually used by the system? 
Why does it have two configs that seem to do the same thing?

Thanks,

-- IV



# File generated by anaconda.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load fbdevhw
Load dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard

#   Option  AutoRepeat500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#   Option  Protocol  Xqueue

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  Xleds 1 2 3

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  XkbModel  pc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  XkbModel  microsoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
# or:
#   Option  XkbLayout de
#   Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  XkbOptionsctrl:nocaps
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  microsoft
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  XkbVariantbasic
#Option XkbOptions
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-70.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms

# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050  60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  151   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  162   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

# 1400x1050  85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline 1400x1050  184   1400 1464 1656 1960
  1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section Device
# Some 7500 boards aparently need this option enabled to work - bug (#62760)
# Option CrtScreen
Identifier   ATI Radeon 7500
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon 7500
BoardName ATI Radeon 7500

#BusID
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen0
Device   ATI Radeon 7500
Monitor  Monitor0
DefaultDepth24

Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1152x864 1152x864 
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:

   (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 
 
 You're reading the wrong config file.  The one you posted was an
 XFree86 version 3 config file.  By the looks of the server output,
 your config file isn't even setup for multihead.
 
 
   Mark.  
 
 
 Ack, I am using digest mode and I don't know how to reply to this 
 without starting a new thread with the same subject line, help. My 
 XF86Config file was generated automatically by RH 7.3 on a clean 
 install, how can it be for version 3 of X? I thought 3 stopped being the 
 default X several versions back. I do have a XF86Config-4 which I have 
 done nothing too (that I am including) in my /etc/X11 as well as a 
 XF86Config. Which one is the one that is actually used by the system? 
 Why does it have two configs that seem to do the same thing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- IV

   XFree86 3 uses XF86Config.  XFree86 4 uses XF86Config-4 unless there
is no XF86Config-4, in which case it will use XF86Config instead.
The /var/log/XFree86.0.log tells you which config file you're using.
The excerpt above indicates that it is using /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
Your XF86Config file that you posted the other day was an XFree86 3
config file (no modules section, no layout section for multihead, etc...).


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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:


  Hello,
 
  I've not gotten a response before from this list and I kind of need this
  to do some work so I'm offering a $10 check to the first person who
  helps me get this working right. I have a Athlon XP 1800+/Asus  RedHat
  7.3 system with a PCI GeForce2 MX 200 card and a AGP Radeon 7500 all in
  wonder (has all the TV tuner stuff so will only do one head, unlike the
  regular Radeon 7500) card that I'm using to drive two Compaq S700
  monitors.  I have set the AGP card in the CMOS as the primary graphic
  adapter. I think I have things right in my XF86Config file (Xinerama on,
  etc), but can't get a spark out of the monitor connected to the PCI
  GeForce2. Works with Windows 2000. Thanks, Here is my XF86Config file:


That's not an XFree86 4.x config file.
What's your /var/log/XFree86.0.log say?


Mark.

Here you go, hope it isn't too long. -- IV



XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Sep 22 15:02:28 2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Anaconda Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device ATI Radeon 7500
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel microsoft
(**) XKB: model: microsoft
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(**) Option XkbVariant basic
(**) XKB: variant: basic
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to unix/:7100
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000780c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,3099 card 1043,807f rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,b099 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 13f6,0111 card 1043,80e2 rev 10 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 104c,8026 card 1043,808d rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1106,3038 card 1043,8080 rev 50 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:09:1: chip 1106,3038 card 1043,8080 rev 50 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:09:2: chip 1106,3104 card 1043,8080 rev 51 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 14f1,2f01 card a0a0,00c1 rev 01 class 07,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 10de,0110 card 1545,0019 rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 10ec,8139 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1106,3147 card 1043,808c rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:11:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1043,808c rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:2: chip 1106,3038 card 1043,808c rev 23 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:3: chip 1106,3038 card 1043,808c rev 23 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,5157 card 1002,0f2a rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x 

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:

 On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
 
 
   Hello,
  
   I've not gotten a response before from this list and I kind of need this
   to do some work so I'm offering a $10 check to the first person who
   helps me get this working right. I have a Athlon XP 1800+/Asus  RedHat
   7.3 system with a PCI GeForce2 MX 200 card and a AGP Radeon 7500 all in
   wonder (has all the TV tuner stuff so will only do one head, unlike the
   regular Radeon 7500) card that I'm using to drive two Compaq S700
   monitors.  I have set the AGP card in the CMOS as the primary graphic
   adapter. I think I have things right in my XF86Config file (Xinerama on,
   etc), but can't get a spark out of the monitor connected to the PCI
   GeForce2. Works with Windows 2000. Thanks, Here is my XF86Config file:
 
 
 That's not an XFree86 4.x config file.
 What's your /var/log/XFree86.0.log say?
 
 
   Mark.
 
 Here you go, hope it isn't too long. -- IV


(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4


   You're reading the wrong config file.  The one you posted was an
XFree86 version 3 config file.  By the looks of the server output,
your config file isn't even setup for multihead.


Mark.


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Re: [Xpert]dual head with radeon ve 32mb ddr

[Michel Dänzer]

On Fre, 2002-09-20 at 15:00, Geoffrey wrote: 
 I've played around with trying to get my dual head hardware working, ATI
 Radeon VE with vga and digital out.  I've tried all kinds of 
 configurations to no avail.  The best I get is a mirrored image on both 
 monitors.
 
 I'm including the entries below I noted from a previous poster because 
 my card is an AGP card, but the entry below is the first I've seen that 
 contained a reference to a AGP busid.
 
 Might this be my problem?  A couple of questions regarding this as well. 
   lspci shows:
 
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5159
 
 for my card, which would seem to identify it as agp.  Question is, 
 should I be using 01:00:0 for both of my entries?

Yes, and you need Screen directives in both device sections.

 And is that format correct?

Looks good to me.


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[Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Hello,

I've not gotten a response before from this list and I kind of need this 
to do some work so I'm offering a $10 check to the first person who 
helps me get this working right. I have a Athlon XP 1800+/Asus  RedHat 
7.3 system with a PCI GeForce2 MX 200 card and a AGP Radeon 7500 all in 
wonder (has all the TV tuner stuff so will only do one head, unlike the 
regular Radeon 7500) card that I'm using to drive two Compaq S700 
monitors.  I have set the AGP card in the CMOS as the primary graphic 
adapter. I think I have things right in my XF86Config file (Xinerama on, 
etc), but can't get a spark out of the monitor connected to the PCI 
GeForce2. Works with Windows 2000. Thanks, Here is my XF86Config file:


# File generated by anaconda.
# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

 RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

 FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags
 # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
 # received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
 # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

 # NoTrapSignals

 # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
 # This allows clients to receive this key event.

 # DontZap

 # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
 # sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

 # DontZoom
 Option Xinerama on
EndSection

# Pointer section
# **

Section Pointer
 ProtocolIMPS/2
 Device  /dev/psaux

#For wheel support - can not be used with Emulate3Buttons
#
#ZAxisMapping 4 5

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.
#ProtocolXqueue

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice
#BaudRate9600
#SampleRate150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
#   Emulate3Buttons
 Emulate3Timeout50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
#ChordMiddle

EndSection

# **
# Keyboard section
# **

Section Keyboard
 ProtocolStandard

 AutoRepeat500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
 # Protocol   Xqueue

# Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be
# required when using pre-R6 clients
 # ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
 # Xleds  1 2 3

# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

 LeftAlt Meta
 RightAltMeta
 ScrollLock  Compose
 RightCtlControl

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#XkbModelpc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#XkbModelmicrosoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#XkbLayout   de
# or:
#XkbLayout   de
#XkbVariant  nodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#XkbOptions  ctrl:swapcaps
#
# If you'd like to disable the capslock key, use:
#XkbOptions  ctrl:nocaps


  XkbRulesxfree86
  XkbModelmicrosoft
  XkbLayout   us
  XkbVariant  basic
  #XkbOptions  
EndSection

# **
# Monitor section
# **

# Any number of 

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon all-in-wonder 7500 not going.

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Ignacio Valdes wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've not gotten a response before from this list and I kind of need this 
 to do some work so I'm offering a $10 check to the first person who 
 helps me get this working right. I have a Athlon XP 1800+/Asus  RedHat 
 7.3 system with a PCI GeForce2 MX 200 card and a AGP Radeon 7500 all in 
 wonder (has all the TV tuner stuff so will only do one head, unlike the 
 regular Radeon 7500) card that I'm using to drive two Compaq S700 
 monitors.  I have set the AGP card in the CMOS as the primary graphic 
 adapter. I think I have things right in my XF86Config file (Xinerama on, 
 etc), but can't get a spark out of the monitor connected to the PCI 
 GeForce2. Works with Windows 2000. Thanks, Here is my XF86Config file:

   That's not an XFree86 4.x config file.  
What's your /var/log/XFree86.0.log say?


Mark.
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[Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

[Charlie Grosvenor]

Hi
I am trying to get XFree86 to work with two monitors with a SIS
6326 card and an ATI Rage Fury 128 card. I can get it to work with one
of them at a time but it refuses to work with both of them. My
configuration is below and I have attached the XFree86 log. Could
somebody tell me what is wrong with it?

Section Files
FontPathunix/:7100# local font
server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on
these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadpex5
Loadrecord
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
Loadxie
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc104
Option  XkbLayout gb
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/gpmdata
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 GL [RF]
Driver  ati
BusID   AGP:01:05:00
Screen 0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 6326
Driver  sis
BusID   PCI:00:08:00
Screen 1
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  HSL:de05
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  HP 50 MonitorHWP
HorizSync   28-50
VertRefresh 43-75
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen0
Device  ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 GL [RF]

Monitor HP 50 MonitorHWP
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen1
Device  Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 6326 
Monitor HSL:de05
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
#   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  Screen1 RightOf Screen0
#   Screen  0   Screen 0
#   Screen  1   Screen 1
#   Screen  Screen 1 RightOf  Screen 0
InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection

Thank you

Charlie

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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

[Michel Dänzer]

On Fre, 2002-09-20 at 12:54, Charlie Grosvenor wrote:

   I am trying to get XFree86 to work with two monitors with a SIS
 6326 card and an ATI Rage Fury 128 card. I can get it to work with one
 of them at a time but it refuses to work with both of them. My
 configuration is below and I have attached the XFree86 log. Could
 somebody tell me what is wrong with it?

You need to provide the bus ID of the Rage128 card in its device
section.


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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast

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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

[Dr Andrew C Aitchison]

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Charlie Grosvenor wrote:

 Hi
   I am trying to get XFree86 to work with two monitors with a SIS
 6326 card and an ATI Rage Fury 128 card. I can get it to work with one
 of them at a time but it refuses to work with both of them. My
 configuration is below and I have attached the XFree86 log. Could
 somebody tell me what is wrong with it?

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 GL [RF]
Driver  ati
BusID   AGP:01:05:00
Screen 0===
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 6326
Driver  sis
BusID   PCI:00:08:00
Screen 1===
EndSection

The keywords Screen are not appropriate in your Device sections.
They are used to identify a particular head on a dual-head card.
Try just deleting these two lines.

-- 
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RE: [Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

[Charlie Grosvenor]

Thank you that worked.

Charlie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Dr Andrew C Aitchison
Sent: 20 September 2002 12:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Charlie Grosvenor wrote:

 Hi
   I am trying to get XFree86 to work with two monitors with a SIS
 6326 card and an ATI Rage Fury 128 card. I can get it to work with one
 of them at a time but it refuses to work with both of them. My
 configuration is below and I have attached the XFree86 log. Could
 somebody tell me what is wrong with it?

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 GL [RF]
Driver  ati
BusID   AGP:01:05:00
Screen 0===
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 6326
Driver  sis
BusID   PCI:00:08:00
Screen 1===
EndSection

The keywords Screen are not appropriate in your Device sections.
They are used to identify a particular head on a dual-head card.
Try just deleting these two lines.

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[Xpert]dual head with radeon ve 32mb ddr

[Geoffrey]

I've played around with trying to get my dual head hardware working, ATI
Radeon VE with vga and digital out.  I've tried all kinds of 
configurations to no avail.  The best I get is a mirrored image on both 
monitors.

I'm including the entries below I noted from a previous poster because 
my card is an AGP card, but the entry below is the first I've seen that 
contained a reference to a AGP busid.

Might this be my problem?  A couple of questions regarding this as well. 
  lspci shows:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5159

for my card, which would seem to identify it as agp.  Question is, 
should I be using 01:00:0 for both of my entries?  And is that format 
correct?  That is, lspci has a '.' whereas the examples below contain ':'.

Thanks for any further assistance.

  Section Device Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage 128 GL
  [RF] Driver  ati BusID   AGP:01:05:00 Screen 0
  === EndSection
 
  Section Device Identifier  Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)
  6326 Driver  sis BusID   PCI:00:08:00 Screen 1
  === EndSection
 
  The keywords Screen are not appropriate in your Device sections.
  They are used to identify a particular head on a dual-head card. Try
  just deleting these two lines.
 


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[Xpert]Dual Head with SIS 6326 and ATI Rage Fury 128

[Alex Deucher]

You need to get a newer version of the sis driver from thomas' site.
http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsis630.shtml

The older ones did not work properly with multiple cards.

Alex

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I am trying to get XFree86 to work with two monitors with a SIS
6326 card and an ATI Rage Fury 128 card. I can get it to work with one
of them at a time but it refuses to work with both of them. My
configuration is below and I have attached the XFree86 log. Could
somebody tell me what is wrong with it?

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[Xpert]Dual-head Geforce2, Radeon 7500 not going.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Hello,

I have a Athlon XP RedHat 7.3 system with a PCI GeForce2 MX 200 card and 
a AGP Radeon 7500 card that I'm using to drive two Compaq S700 monitors. 
  I have set the AGP card in the CMOS as the primary graphic adapter. I 
think I have things right in my XF86Config file (Xinerama on, etc), but 
can't get a spark out of the monitor connected to the PCI GeForce2. Can 
anyone help? Thanks, Here is my XF86Config file:

# File generated by anaconda.
# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

 RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

 FontPath   unix/:7100

EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags
 # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
 # received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
 # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

 # NoTrapSignals

 # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence
 # This allows clients to receive this key event.

 # DontZap

 # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
 # sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

 # DontZoom
 Option Xinerama on
EndSection

# Pointer section
# **

Section Pointer
 ProtocolIMPS/2
 Device  /dev/psaux

#For wheel support - can not be used with Emulate3Buttons
#
#ZAxisMapping 4 5

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.
#Protocol   Xqueue

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice
#BaudRate   9600
#SampleRate 150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
#   Emulate3Buttons
 Emulate3Timeout50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
#ChordMiddle

EndSection

# **
# Keyboard section
# **

Section Keyboard
 ProtocolStandard

 AutoRepeat 500 5

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
 # Protocol   Xqueue

# Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be
# required when using pre-R6 clients
 # ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
 # Xleds  1 2 3

# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

 LeftAlt Meta
 RightAltMeta
 ScrollLock  Compose
 RightCtlControl

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#XkbModelpc102
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#XkbModelmicrosoft
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#XkbLayout   de
# or:
#XkbLayout   de
#XkbVariant  nodeadkeys
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#XkbOptions  ctrl:swapcaps
#
# If you'd like to disable the capslock key, use:
#XkbOptions  ctrl:nocaps


  XkbRulesxfree86
  XkbModelmicrosoft
  XkbLayout   us
  XkbVariant  basic
  #XkbOptions  
EndSection

# **
# Monitor section
# **

# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section Monitor
 Identifier  Generic Monitor
 VendorName  Unknown
 ModelName   Unknown
#HorizSync   31.5
#VertRefresh 60
 HorizSync   35.15
 VertRefresh 55-65

#ModeLine  640x480   25.175  640 664 760 800
#  480 491 

Re: [Xpert]dual-head failure.

[Paul Pikowsky]

The files you posted are impossible to read because there are no carriage 
returns.  Try just cutting and pasting them in your Email after opening them 
in Kedit or Kate or something.


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Hello All,

  I almost have the dual-had set-up working.  I
believe that my set-up files are correct, However I
have included a copy of the relevant log entry, and my
XF86Config-4 file as well.  Any help would be much
appreciated.

ATI radeon 7500 agp
with an S3 pci
   Thank You

Log File:

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8)
/ X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0,
vendor release 6600) Release Date: 23 January 2002 If
the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card
is newer than the above date, look for a newer version
before reporting problems. (See
http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux
2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] Build Host:
daffy.perf.redhat.com Module Loader present Markers:
(--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II)
informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not
implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file:
/var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Sep 3 17:25:47
2002 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured (**) |--Screen
Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Gateway EV700 (**)
| |--Device ATI Radeon 7500 (**) |--Screen
Screen1 (1) (**) | |--Monitor CustomConfiguration
(**) | |--Device S3 Trio64 (generic) (**) |--Input
Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (**)
Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us (==)
Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabl
ed (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100 (==) RgbPath set
to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 6 (II)
Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86
ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 XFree86 Server Extension :
0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 (II) Loader running on
linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module
bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for
4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86
Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer,
version 0.3 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule:
pcidata (II) Loading
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module
pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for
4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video
Driver, version 0.5 (II) PCI: Probing config type
using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI:
stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 =
0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card , rev
03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip
8086,7191 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card , rev
02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip
8086,7111 card , rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card , rev
01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip
8086,7113 card , rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 1274,1371 card 1274,1371 rev
06 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip
105a,4d38 card 105a,4d33 rev 01 class 01,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 100b

Re: [Xpert]dual-head failure. (apology)

[Sheldon Reynolds]

To the list:
I would like to apologize to the list for my post, I was not aware the editor I was using stripped all of the returns upon paste(and for the dual-post). I will post a fixed message to the newbie-list. Again I apologize for the waste of time I caused anyone, and will not make this mistake again.
 sincerely,
 Sheldon
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[Xpert]dual-head failure.

[Sheldon Reynolds]

Hello All,

 I almost have the dual-had set-up working.  I
believe that my set-up files are correct, However I
have included a copy of the relevant log entry, and my
XF86Config-4 file as well.  Any help would be much
appreciated.

ATI radeon 7500 agp
with an S3 pci 
  Thank You

Log File:

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8)
/ X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0,
vendor release 6600) Release Date: 23 January 2002 If
the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card
is newer than the above date, look for a newer version
before reporting problems. (See
http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux
2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] Build Host:
daffy.perf.redhat.com Module Loader present Markers:
(--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II)
informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not
implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file:
/var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Sep 3 17:25:47
2002 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout XFree86 Configured (**) |--Screen
Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Gateway EV700 (**)
| |--Device ATI Radeon 7500 (**) |--Screen
Screen1 (1) (**) | |--Monitor CustomConfiguration
(**) | |--Device S3 Trio64 (generic) (**) |--Input
Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (**)
Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us (==)
Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabl
ed (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100 (==) RgbPath set
to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 6 (II)
Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86
ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 XFree86 Server Extension :
0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 (II) Loader running on
linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module
bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for
4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86
Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer,
version 0.3 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule:
pcidata (II) Loading
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module
pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for
4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video
Driver, version 0.5 (II) PCI: Probing config type
using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI:
stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 =
0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card , rev
03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip
8086,7191 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card , rev
02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip
8086,7111 card , rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card , rev
01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip
8086,7113 card , rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 1274,1371 card 1274,1371 rev
06 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip
105a,4d38 card 105a,4d33 rev 01 class 01,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 100b,0020 card 1385,f312 rev
00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip
5333,8811 card , rev 40 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,5157 card 1002,013a rev
00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci (II) Loading
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module
scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for
4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video
Driver, version 0.5 (II) UnloadModule: scanpci (II)
Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II)
Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II)
PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0),
(-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O
range: [0] -1 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1
0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0
prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x -
0x (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 1: bridge is at
(0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x8c (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus
1 I/O range: [0] -1 0x9000 - 0x90ff (0x100)
IX[B] [1] -1 0x9400 - 0x94ff (0x100) IX[B] [2]
-1 0x9800 - 0x98ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1
0x9c00 - 0x9cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 1
non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xe800 -
0xe80f (0x10) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable
memory range: [0] -1 0xf000 - 0xf7ff
(0x800) MX[B] (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0),
(0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus -1 I/O
range: (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: (II)
Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: (--) PCI: (0:17:0)
S3 Trio32/64 rev 64, Mem @ 0xe400/26 (--)
PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Radeon 7500 QW rev 0, Mem @
0xf000/27, 0xe800/16, I/O @ 0x9000/8 (II)
Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0x
- 0x (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0x -
0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource
ranges: [0] -1 0xffe0 - 0x 

Re: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Eric Sprague]

AFAIK, yes. The VE definitely does.
--- Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Eric Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:36:18 -0700 (PDT)
  
  Try the ATi Radeon 7500 or VE. Also, the Matrox
  G450/G550 are worth a look, but these days, the
 ATi
  cards are equally easy to set up, and tend to be
  faster. Also, they don't rely on a binary module,
  unlike the MGA cards.
  
  The Radeon 7500 should be the fastest. The 8500
 should
  work too, but I'm not entirely certain.br /
 
 Does the 7500 support Xinerama mode across the two
 displays?
 
 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
 Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
 Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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[Xpert]Dual-Head on DELL OEM Radeon VE's

[Michael Lasevich]

Sorry of this ends up being posted twice, but I never seen it hit the list
the first time around, so I am assuming it was lost.
---
I am trying to get dual-head (xinerama) working on DELL OEM'ed Radeon VE. I
am using RedHat 7.3, default install.

Under this configuration, I could not get second monitor to show any signs
of life, but I found the following message on the xpert list that seems to
deal with this exact issue:

http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-April/017038.html

Following these instructions I configured /exp/X11/XF86Config-4 file, and
got RedHat srpm for XF86 4.2.0. I expanded  the srpm, added the patch (I had
to adjust it to new line numbers) and rebuild/installed rpms.

The result came out to be a bit strange. The dual-head config DOES in fact
produce output on two screens, but while the first one is working fine, the
second one is blurry. Parts of the images on second screen move as I move a
window around, especially between the monitors.It's kind of like the colors
are separating a bit.  The on-screen display on my monitors (DELL M991) is
capable of showing current resolution. The first monitor shows 1024x768 @
85HZ (as it should be) but strangely enough it shows 69K / 85HZ -- I am not
sure I understand that notation. Both monitors and video card setting in
XF86Config-4 file are same (see attached) I took out modelines and I tried
putting some in, tried changing resolutions, nothing seems to cure this.


Anyone have any ideas?

-Michael

BTW, Same hw config works fine in dual-head Win2k config.

--
XF86Config-4 sans the comments
---
Section ServerFlags
Option Xinerama on
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 LeftOf Screen1
Screen Screen1 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
FontPath   unix/:7100
EndSection

Section Module
Load  GLcore
Load  dbe
Load  extmod
Load fbdevhw
Load dri
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
Option XkbRules xfree86
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us
#Option XkbVariant 
#Option XkbOptions 
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-96.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
HorizSync   30.0-96.0
VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
Option dpms
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier   Radeon0
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon VE
BoardName ATI Radeon VE
Option AGPMode 4
BusID PCI:1:0:0
Screen 0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier   Radeon1
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon VE
BoardName ATI Radeon VE
Option AGPMode 4
Option Crt2Dac2
BusID PCI:1:0:0
Screen 1
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen0
Device   Radeon0
Monitor  Monitor0
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768 1024x768
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen1
Device   Radeon1
Monitor  Monitor1
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768 1024x768
EndSubsection

EndSection

Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection
---

---XFree86.0.log---

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Custom Build: 4.2.0-8) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 23 January 2002
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
 reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-5bigmem i686 [ELF]
Build Host: hp002

Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 25 20:17:01 2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Anaconda Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Radeon0
(**) |--Screen Screen1 (1)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor1
(**) |   |--Device Radeon1
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) 

[Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Colin Law]

Hello,

Im looking at creating a dual headed system for use while developing an 
animation tool.
  Screen 1 for most of the development/coding work,
  Screen 2 for fullscreen playback of the animated sequences

Im looking for advice on a fast 2D graphics card (im not interested in 
3D) with good support under linux. I would also prefer that the video 
drivers were open source. Any suggestions or advice??

I would also be interested to hear from anyone with a similar set-up, 
what cards, configuration, problems etc you use/had.

Thanks for any help,
~Colin.



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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Eric Sprague]

Try the ATi Radeon 7500 or VE. Also, the Matrox
G450/G550 are worth a look, but these days, the ATi
cards are equally easy to set up, and tend to be
faster. Also, they don't rely on a binary module,
unlike the MGA cards.

The Radeon 7500 should be the fastest. The 8500 should
work too, but I'm not entirely certain.br /
--- Colin Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Im looking at creating a dual headed system for use
 while developing an 
 animation tool.
   Screen 1 for most of the development/coding work,
   Screen 2 for fullscreen playback of the animated
 sequences
 
 Im looking for advice on a fast 2D graphics card (im
 not interested in 
 3D) with good support under linux. I would also
 prefer that the video 
 drivers were open source. Any suggestions or
 advice??
 
 I would also be interested to hear from anyone with
 a similar set-up, 
 what cards, configuration, problems etc you use/had.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 ~Colin.
 
 
 
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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Kevin Oberman]

 From: Eric Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:36:18 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Try the ATi Radeon 7500 or VE. Also, the Matrox
 G450/G550 are worth a look, but these days, the ATi
 cards are equally easy to set up, and tend to be
 faster. Also, they don't rely on a binary module,
 unlike the MGA cards.
 
 The Radeon 7500 should be the fastest. The 8500 should
 work too, but I'm not entirely certain.br /

Does the 7500 support Xinerama mode across the two displays?

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RE: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Randall Watt]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of Eric Sprague
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics


 Try the ATi Radeon 7500 or VE. Also, the Matrox
 G450/G550 are worth a look, but these days, the ATi
 cards are equally easy to set up, and tend to be
 faster. Also, they don't rely on a binary module,
 unlike the MGA cards.


The mga binary drivers are only necessary for DVI support and certain
PowerDesk features. Other than that, the standard XFree86 supplied version
of the mga driver should work just fine in either single or dualhead modes.
Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions that the mga drivers are binary
only.



 The Radeon 7500 should be the fastest. The 8500 should
 work too, but I'm not entirely certain.br /
 --- Colin Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Im looking at creating a dual headed system for use
  while developing an
  animation tool.
Screen 1 for most of the development/coding work,
Screen 2 for fullscreen playback of the animated
  sequences
 
  Im looking for advice on a fast 2D graphics card (im
  not interested in
  3D) with good support under linux. I would also
  prefer that the video
  drivers were open source. Any suggestions or
  advice??
 
  I would also be interested to hear from anyone with
  a similar set-up,
  what cards, configuration, problems etc you use/had.
 
  Thanks for any help,
  ~Colin.
 
 
 
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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head + Fast 2D Graphics

[Scott Long]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:14:57 -0400
  Randall Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The mga binary drivers are only necessary for DVI support and certain
PowerDesk features. Other than that, the standard XFree86 supplied 
version
of the mga driver should work just fine in either single or dualhead 
modes.
Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions that the mga drivers are 
binary
only.

I don't get it. My G550 runs a DVI flatpanel just find without the HAL 
driver. Can someone please explain this?

I *still* cannot get both heads to work with the G550. If I load the 
HAL driver, neither screen gets a good signal -- they both come up 
with the little blue box saying bad sync. If I don't load the HAL 
driver, I can get cloned screens, but the CRT gets a bad signal and 
looks wavy. I definitely cannot get Xinerama to work.

When I get home later today I'll put my X logs and config files on a 
web server somewhere.

But I'm giving up hope on the G550. If I can't get it working soon I'm 
gonna ditch it.

Scott Long
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Re: [Xpert]dual head-Radeon VE-with OpenGL

[Michel Dänzer]

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 05:49, Jason Hu Huang wrote: 
 I have just sloved dri problem with my XFree86.4.2 and Radeon VE 32MB card on 
 RH7.2.
 Now I am moving to fully use the dual head card. I have read a lot articles 
 regarding the setting of the XF86Configure file to enable the two different 
 output onto two monitors before. The following one is a good example(From David 
 B. Ritch).
 However, I once tried to do the same thing and wished to display Opengl program 
 on the two monitors at the same time. I got two sceens working but got only one 
 Sceen display the program well while the second only has a blank view. Does 
 that mean Opengl cannot work on two differnt sceens with xinerama even using 
 Radeon card? Can anyone give me some direct?

This isn't supported by the radeon driver yet.


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[Xpert]dual head-Radeon VE-with OpenGL

[Jason Hu Huang]

I have just sloved dri problem with my XFree86.4.2 and Radeon VE 32MB card on 
RH7.2.
Now I am moving to fully use the dual head card. I have read a lot articles 
regarding the setting of the XF86Configure file to enable the two different 
output onto two monitors before. The following one is a good example(From David 
B. Ritch).
However, I once tried to do the same thing and wished to display Opengl program 
on the two monitors at the same time. I got two sceens working but got only one 
Sceen display the program well while the second only has a blank view. Does 
that mean Opengl cannot work on two differnt sceens with xinerama even using 
Radeon card? Can anyone give me some direct?

Thanks.



I got it working.  FYI - here's my XF86Config file.

dbr

Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  Screen1 LeftOf Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
Option  xinerama
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  dbe
Load  dri
Load  glx
Load  record
#Load  pex5
Load  xtrap
#Load  xie
Load  speedo
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
# Modified by mouseconfig
Identifier  Mouse0
# Modified by mouseconfig
Driver  mouse
Option  Device/dev/mouse
Option  Protocol  IMPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   no
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   External
VendorName   Dell
ModelNameD1025HTX
HorizSync30.0 - 90.0
VertRefresh  48.0 - 150.0
ModeLine 1024x768@75Hz(VESA) 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 
800 +hsync +vsync
Option  dpms
Option  CrtScreen
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Internal
VendorName   Dell
ModelNameInspiron 4100
HorizSync31.5 - 90.0
VertRefresh  59.0 - 75.0
ModeLine 1400x1050 129.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1400x1050 151.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1400x1050 162.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 
+hsync +vsync
ModeLine 1400x1050 184.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 
+hsync +vsync
Option  dpms# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option Dac6Bit   # [bool]
#Option Dac8Bit   # [bool]
#Option ForcePCIMode  # [bool]
#Option CPPIOMode # [bool]
#Option CPusecTimeout # i
#Option AGPSize   # i
#Option RingSize  # i
#Option BufferSize# i
#Option EnableDepthMoves  # [bool]
Identifier  Card0
Driver  ati
VendorName  ATI
BoardName   Radeon Mobility M6 LY
Option  AGPMode 2   # i
#Option CrtScreen # [bool]
#Option PanelSize # [str]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
#Option VideoRam  16384
Screen  0
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option Dac6Bit   # [bool]
#Option Dac8Bit   # [bool]
#Option ForcePCIMode  # [bool]
#Option CPPIOMode # [bool]
#Option CPusecTimeout # i
#Option AGPSize   # i
#Option RingSize  

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head + dri on an ATI Radeon VE video card

[Michel Dänzer]

On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 07:51, Angus Wallace wrote: 
 
 I've got a quick question regarding an ATI Raedon VE dual-VGA-out card.
 I've read in several places that the driver doesn't currently support
 both dri and dual-head at the same time. Is this still the case?

Yes.

 Is it likely to be addressed in the future, and if so when?

The best solution would probably be to implement what nVidia calls
'TwinView' and Matrox calls 'merged display' I think. There were plans
to do so but I don't know about the current status.

Meanwhile, if you don't need DRI on both heads, run one server
dualheaded with no DRI and another singleheaded with DRI. Very easy with
gdm. 


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[Xpert]Dual Head DDC Info.

[Pat Suwalski]

Hello,

I've been playing with Dual and Quad head setups. I have noticed a bug 
with the second head on every card. The bug is that the DDC information 
supplied for the second head is always the same as the information 
supplied for the first. That is how it appears in the XFree86.0.log 
file, regardless of make and model of the monitor on the second head.

We've been trying with Matrox G550 and ATI cards.

Thanks,
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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head DDC Info.

[Dr Andrew C Aitchison]

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Pat Suwalski wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've been playing with Dual and Quad head setups. I have noticed a bug 
 with the second head on every card. The bug is that the DDC information 
 supplied for the second head is always the same as the information 
 supplied for the first. That is how it appears in the XFree86.0.log 
 file, regardless of make and model of the monitor on the second head.
 
 We've been trying with Matrox G550 and ATI cards.

I see it too on a G550. I'm using mga_hal, since I haven't got
dual head working without it, although I've heard that other people 
only get dual head if they don't use mga_hal.

The ATI (Radeon) DDC code was reworked in last night's CVS, to
work with internal and external displays, CRTs and flat panels.
This *may* have fixed your problem, but I don't have a dual-head
radeon to test.

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[Xpert]Dual head Radeon 7500 questions

[John Gibson]

 
 Hello all,
 
 I have a ATI Radeon 7500 that I am trying to get dual heads working on.
 Currently I have a mirror of my desktop on each viewsonic monitor. Below is my
 XF86Config-4 file. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

 I am running RedHat Linux 7.3 with XFree86 4.2.0

 
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 XF86Config-4
# XFree86 4.2.0 configuration generated by Xconfigurator 4.10.7

 Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
creen Screen0
Screen Screen1 Rightof Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
Option Xinerama on
 EndSection
 
 # Red Hat Linux 6.0 and later use the xfs font server for improved
 # interactive performance
 
 Section Files
FontPath unix/:7100
 EndSection
 
 # Module loading section
 
 Section Module
Load  dbe # Double-buffering
Load  GLcore  # OpenGL support
Load  dri # Direct rendering infrastructure
Load  glx # OpenGL X protocol interface
Load  extmod  # Misc. required extensions
Load  v4l # Video4Linux
# Load  record# X event recorder
# You only need the following two modules if you do not use xfs.
# Load  freetype   # TrueType font handler
# Load  type1 # Adobe Type 1 font handler
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
Option  XkbLayout us
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Device /dev/mouse
Option  Protocol PS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons off
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
Identifier ViewSonic0
VendorName Unknown
ModelName  Unknown
HorizSync 30 - 95
VertRefresh 50 - 180
Option dpms
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
Identifier ViewSonic1
VendorName Unknown
ModelName  Unknown
HorizSync 30 - 95
VertRefresh 50 - 180
Option dpms
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
Identifier ATI|Radeon 7500 QW
Driver ati
BoardName Unknown
 # Some 7500 boards aparently need this option enabled to work - bug (#62760)
 # Option CrtScreen
Screen 0
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
Identifier ATI|Radeon 7500 QW2
Driver ati
BoardName Unknown
 # Some 7500 boards aparently need this option enabled to work - bug (#62760)
 # Option CrtScreen
Screen 1
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device ATI|Radeon 7500 QW
Monitor ViewSonic0
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
Identifier Screen1
Device ATI|Radeon 7500 QW2
Monitor ViewSonic1
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 
 Section DRI
Mode 0666
 EndSection

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Re: [Xpert]Dual head Radeon 7500 questions

[Michel Dänzer]

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 11:54, John Gibson wrote: 
  
  I have a ATI Radeon 7500 that I am trying to get dual heads working on.
  Currently I have a mirror of my desktop on each viewsonic monitor. Below is my
  XF86Config-4 file. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

I can only guess without seeing the log, but you probably need to put
the bus ID of the chip in both device sections.


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Re: [Xpert]Dual head Radeon 7500 questions

[Geoffrey]

I've got the bus id as noted below, yet I get the same thing, mirrored 
images on both monitors.

Radeon VE here.

Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 11:54, John Gibson wrote: 
 
 
 I have a ATI Radeon 7500 that I am trying to get dual heads working on.
 Currently I have a mirror of my desktop on each viewsonic monitor. Below is my
 XF86Config-4 file. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

 
 I can only guess without seeing the log, but you probably need to put
 the bus ID of the chip in both device sections.
 
 
 


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Re: [Xpert]Dual head Radeon 7500 questions

[hy0]

I guess what Michel was trying to say is:
add something like BusID PCI:1:0:0 to both of Device sections in your
config file. If it still doesn't work, post your log file.

 I've got the bus id as noted below, yet I get the same thing, mirrored
 images on both monitors.

 Radeon VE here.

 Michel Dänzer wrote:
  On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 11:54, John Gibson wrote:
 
 
  I have a ATI Radeon 7500 that I am trying to get dual heads working on.
  Currently I have a mirror of my desktop on each viewsonic monitor.
Below is my
  XF86Config-4 file. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.
 
 
  I can only guess without seeing the log, but you probably need to put
  the bus ID of the chip in both device sections.
 
 
 


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Re: [Xpert]Dual head with ati mobility (lcd + external) (one pciid, 2 outputs)

[Wayne Schroeder]

Are there any plans to add it in the future?  I might take a look at it 
if I could ever get time away from coding for work (gooo startup!).

Where?--I assume you are talking about where did I see a working 
config...  well... right here on the list.  Was it working or not... I 
guess not.  It was just a config that somone posted trying to do the 
same thing, and somone followed up with a correction that would make it 
work (aparently only if r128 did this and or the config may have been 
for radeon or some other driver which does it).

Wayne

Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 08:44, Wayne Schroeder wrote:
 
Background:
ati rage128 mobility has two outputs, both of which can have unique 
images/displays on them.  One is the internal lcd, the other the 
external monitor adapter.  On windows 98/ME, this is supported by 
default.  In windows 2000, there is no driver available to acomplish 
this task (due to the fact that it is multiple outputs on one pci id / 
adapter or something to that affect breaks the nt/2k + display architecture)

What I have found:
I have seen people post to this list asking what the correct config 
is... I have seen messages saying that this is not supported... I have 
also seen messages saying it works.
 
 
 Where? The r128 driver doesn't support this yet. If you want to add it,
 look at the radeon driver.
 
 


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RE: [Xpert]Dual head with ati mobility (lcd + external) (one pciid, 2 outputs)

[Gene Dascher]

I would be ETERNALLY grateful if someone could get this to work on my Dell
Inspiron 5000e with an ATI Rage 128 Mobility video card.  I use the dual
head under Win98 and find it invaluable for web programming.  I would switch
to Linux/XFree86 for good if dual-head becomes possible.

Gene

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 Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:52 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Xpert]Dual head with ati mobility (lcd + external) (one
 pciid, 2 outputs)


 Are there any plans to add it in the future?  I might take a look at it
 if I could ever get time away from coding for work (gooo startup!).

 Where?--I assume you are talking about where did I see a working
 config...  well... right here on the list.  Was it working or not... I
 guess not.  It was just a config that somone posted trying to do the
 same thing, and somone followed up with a correction that would make it
 work (aparently only if r128 did this and or the config may have been
 for radeon or some other driver which does it).

 Wayne

 Michel Dänzer wrote:
  On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 08:44, Wayne Schroeder wrote:
 
 Background:
 ati rage128 mobility has two outputs, both of which can have unique
 images/displays on them.  One is the internal lcd, the other the
 external monitor adapter.  On windows 98/ME, this is supported by
 default.  In windows 2000, there is no driver available to acomplish
 this task (due to the fact that it is multiple outputs on one pci id /
 adapter or something to that affect breaks the nt/2k + display
 architecture)
 
 What I have found:
 I have seen people post to this list asking what the correct config
 is... I have seen messages saying that this is not supported... I have
 also seen messages saying it works.
 
 
  Where? The r128 driver doesn't support this yet. If you want to add it,
  look at the radeon driver.
 
 


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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Geoffrey]

Joe Krahn wrote:
 Geoffrey wrote:
 
My assumption is that this patch deals with the fact the oem card has
two digital outputs?  At least that's what I understand, mine has one
vga and one digital.  I don't think this should matter though.  I've got
a converter on my digital and before starting X, I've got mirrored
output to both monitors.

 I think it is actually due to a different BIOS on the card. The Dell
 card has a single digital socket, and a choice of two Y cables to
 plug in: dual digital or dual VGA. I'm using the dual VGA. I don't
 get mirrored output before starting X. SO, your card is quite different
 from Dell OEM, but maybe it's still worth trying a patched XFree86.
 I can send you a patched executable to test, if you want to try it.

I didn't realize these cards were that different.  Certainly a bigger 
difference hardware wise then I had known.

Anyone out there got a retail Radeon VE working with dual head? 
Specifically an agp card that has two outputs on the card itself, one 
vga and a second that is digital?  My card came with an adapter that 
will permit two vga monitors.

Sure, send me the patched binary, I'll give it a spin, thanks.

 
 Joe
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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Eric Sprague]

As far as getting the retail version working - I've
had the dual-output retail VE working in dualhead
forever (well, since before 4.2.0 anyway - I was using
a rather late CVS). You just need to specify two
device sections for the same card, but one needs
(IIRC, my dualhead box is a few thousand miles away
just now) 'screen 0' and the other 'screen 1' in the
device section. Make sure to specify the BusID,
especially if another card resides in the same box
(nVidia nForce mobos, Tyan Thunders with onboard Rage
Pro video...)

If you switch off Xinerama, HW-accelerated OpenGL
should work too.

--- Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joe Krahn wrote:
  Geoffrey wrote:
  
 My assumption is that this patch deals with the
 fact the oem card has
 two digital outputs?  At least that's what I
 understand, mine has one
 vga and one digital.  I don't think this should
 matter though.  I've got
 a converter on my digital and before starting X,
 I've got mirrored
 output to both monitors.
 
  I think it is actually due to a different BIOS on
 the card. The Dell
  card has a single digital socket, and a choice of
 two Y cables to
  plug in: dual digital or dual VGA. I'm using the
 dual VGA. I don't
  get mirrored output before starting X. SO, your
 card is quite different
  from Dell OEM, but maybe it's still worth trying a
 patched XFree86.
  I can send you a patched executable to test, if
 you want to try it.
 
 I didn't realize these cards were that different. 
 Certainly a bigger 
 difference hardware wise then I had known.
 
 Anyone out there got a retail Radeon VE working with
 dual head? 
 Specifically an agp card that has two outputs on the
 card itself, one 
 vga and a second that is digital?  My card came with
 an adapter that 
 will permit two vga monitors.
 
 Sure, send me the patched binary, I'll give it a
 spin, thanks.
 
  
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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Geoffrey]

Eric Sprague wrote:
 As far as getting the retail version working - I've
 had the dual-output retail VE working in dualhead
 forever (well, since before 4.2.0 anyway - I was using
 a rather late CVS). You just need to specify two
 device sections for the same card, but one needs
 (IIRC, my dualhead box is a few thousand miles away
 just now) 'screen 0' and the other 'screen 1' in the
 device section. Make sure to specify the BusID,
 especially if another card resides in the same box
 (nVidia nForce mobos, Tyan Thunders with onboard Rage
 Pro video...)

I've done all you suggest.  It's the only card in there though, agp.  Is 
your's agp?  I'd love to get my hands on your config file, if you get a 
chance to send it to me I'd appreciate it.  Here's an excerpt from my 
config, note I've got what you suggest:

Section Device
 Identifier  ATI Radeon_0
 Screen 0
 VendorName  ATI
 BoardName   Unknown
 Driver  radeon
 Option  AGPMode 2
#VideoRam32768
 BusID PCI:1:0:0
 Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
 Identifier  ATI Radeon_1
 Screen 1
 VendorName  ATI
 BoardName   Unknown
 Driver  radeon
 Option  AGPMode 2
#VideoRam32768
 BusID PCI:1:0:0
 Option  DPMS
EndSection




 
 If you switch off Xinerama, HW-accelerated OpenGL
 should work too.
 
 --- Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Joe Krahn wrote:

Geoffrey wrote:


My assumption is that this patch deals with the

fact the oem card has

two digital outputs?  At least that's what I

understand, mine has one

vga and one digital.  I don't think this should

matter though.  I've got

a converter on my digital and before starting X,

I've got mirrored

output to both monitors.


I think it is actually due to a different BIOS on

the card. The Dell

card has a single digital socket, and a choice of

two Y cables to

plug in: dual digital or dual VGA. I'm using the

dual VGA. I don't

get mirrored output before starting X. SO, your

card is quite different

from Dell OEM, but maybe it's still worth trying a

patched XFree86.

I can send you a patched executable to test, if

you want to try it.

I didn't realize these cards were that different. 
Certainly a bigger 
difference hardware wise then I had known.

Anyone out there got a retail Radeon VE working with
dual head? 
Specifically an agp card that has two outputs on the
card itself, one 
vga and a second that is digital?  My card came with
an adapter that 
will permit two vga monitors.

Sure, send me the patched binary, I'll give it a
spin, thanks.


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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Eric Sprague]

If I can get it, I'll send it to ya - but I'm
currently on a ship in the middle of BFE, and my box
is in the USA, so it'll be a very long time. If anyone
else has the VE working in dualhead, could they please
post their XF86Config-4?

--- Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Sprague wrote:
  As far as getting the retail version working -
 I've
  had the dual-output retail VE working in dualhead
  forever (well, since before 4.2.0 anyway - I was
 using
  a rather late CVS). You just need to specify two
  device sections for the same card, but one needs
  (IIRC, my dualhead box is a few thousand miles
 away
  just now) 'screen 0' and the other 'screen 1' in
 the
  device section. Make sure to specify the BusID,
  especially if another card resides in the same box
  (nVidia nForce mobos, Tyan Thunders with onboard
 Rage
  Pro video...)
 
 I've done all you suggest.  It's the only card in
 there though, agp.  Is 
 your's agp?  I'd love to get my hands on your config
 file, if you get a 
 chance to send it to me I'd appreciate it.  Here's
 an excerpt from my 
 config, note I've got what you suggest:
 
 Section Device
  Identifier  ATI Radeon_0
  Screen 0
  VendorName  ATI
  BoardName   Unknown
  Driver  radeon
  Option  AGPMode 2
 #VideoRam32768
  BusID PCI:1:0:0
  Option  DPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
  Identifier  ATI Radeon_1
  Screen 1
  VendorName  ATI
  BoardName   Unknown
  Driver  radeon
  Option  AGPMode 2
 #VideoRam32768
  BusID PCI:1:0:0
  Option  DPMS
 EndSection
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Joe Krahn]

Geoffrey wrote:
 
 I've got a 'Screen 0' in my first Device section and 'Screen 1' in the
 second.
 
 The examples I used were for single card with dual outputs. One for a
 Matrox card that had two vga outputs (linux journal article) and another
 was an example config file from someone who has a Radeon VE oem card.
 He's using some hacked version of Xfree though.
 
Do you also have different identifiers for the two device sections?
Here's the Device/Screen sections from a Radeon VE that works for me.
BUT, I have a Dell OEM version and had to apply the patch/hack to XFree
for the Crt2Dac2 option.

Does this work for you?

Joe Krahn
--
Section Device
Identifier   Radeon0
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon AGP
BoardName ATI Radeon AGP
BusIDPCI:1:0:0
Screen 0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier   Radeon1
Driver   radeon
VendorName   ATI Radeon AGP
BoardName ATI Radeon AGP
Option Crt2Dac2
BusIDPCI:1:0:0
Screen 1
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen0
Device   Radeon0
Monitor  DELL
DefaultDepth24
Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1280x1024 
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier   Screen1
Device   Radeon1
Monitor  DTI3D
DefaultDepth16
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1024x768 
EndSubsection
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Re: [Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Geoffrey]

Joe Krahn wrote:
 Geoffrey wrote:
 
I've got a 'Screen 0' in my first Device section and 'Screen 1' in the
second.

The examples I used were for single card with dual outputs. One for a
Matrox card that had two vga outputs (linux journal article) and another
was an example config file from someone who has a Radeon VE oem card.
He's using some hacked version of Xfree though.


 Do you also have different identifiers for the two device sections?

Yeah.

 Here's the Device/Screen sections from a Radeon VE that works for me.
 BUT, I have a Dell OEM version and had to apply the patch/hack to XFree
 for the Crt2Dac2 option.

My assumption is that this patch deals with the fact the oem card has 
two digital outputs?  At least that's what I understand, mine has one 
vga and one digital.  I don't think this should matter though.  I've got 
a converter on my digital and before starting X, I've got mirrored 
output to both monitors.

 
 Does this work for you?

Looks very much the same as mine.  I actually forwarded mine to another 
person who has the oem card and he couldn't see anything wrong with it 
either.

Here's an excerpt from mine, if you see anything that's wrong, please 
let me know?

Section Device
 Identifier  ATI Radeon_0
 Screen 0
 VendorName  ATI
 BoardName   Unknown
 Driver  radeon
 Option  AGPMode 2
#VideoRam32768
 BusID PCI:1:0:0
 Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
 Identifier  ATI Radeon_1
 Screen 1
 VendorName  ATI
 BoardName   Unknown
 Driver  radeon
 Option  AGPMode 2
#VideoRam32768
 BusID PCI:1:0:0
 Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
 Identifier screen0
 Device  ATI Radeon_0
 Monitor Monitor0
 DefaultColorDepth 16
 Subsection Display
 Depth   16
 Modes   800x600
 ViewPort0 0
 EndSubsection
EndSection


Section Screen
 Identifier screen1
 Device  ATI Radeon_1
 Monitor Monitor1
 DefaultColorDepth 16
 Subsection Display
 Depth   16
 Modes   800x600
 ViewPort0 0
 EndSubsection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
 Identifier layout
 Screenscreen0
 Screen 0 screen0 0 0
 Screen 1 screen1 RightOf screen0

 Option Xinerama on

 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer

 # InputDevice Mouse2 SendCoreEvents

 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard
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[Xpert]dual head on a Radeon VE

[Geoffrey]

I've been trying to get dual head working on my retail Radeon VE.  I've 
toggled between Xfree 4.2 and the Gatos stuff.  I know some folks have 
this working, both retail and oem cards.

I keep getting the message:

Please use only one Device/Screen section in your XFConfig file

Which doesn't make sense from the examples I've found on the xinerama 
howto and two articles on dual head I've reviewed from Linux Journal.

When my box first boots, the two monitors mirror the boot output and 
console output afterwards.  My card has vga, flat screen, and tv 
outputs.  I've got a Viewsonic 20G on the vga and a small converter that 
came with the card on the flat screen output with a 15 Nec monitor.

I'm running kernel 2.4 Mandrake 8.0.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

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[Xpert]Dual-head support for SMI Lynx 3DM

[Sergei Ivanoff]

Hi,

I'd like to use the SMI Lynx driver in Dual-head LCD mode.
All the information I have says that the Linux Dual-head support doesn't
exist for the Lynx chipsets.

Would anyone happen to be working on support for this?  If not, could anyone
suggest helpful resources, since we've never developed frame buffer or X11
drivers before.

Regards,
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[Xpert]Dual Head

[John Tapsell]

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Hash: SHA1

Card:   Matrox G400 Dualhead
X version:  4.1.0.1
Distro: Debian, sid (unstable)

Attempt:To get dual head working, using mgapdesk, using xinerama.

Problem:kicker (the panel) crashes when kde3 loads up.  
Enlightenment also 
crashes when it loads up.  Same with sawfish.
By crash I mean it freezes - it doesn't segfault, and has to 
be killed by
a kill -9.
The dual head seems to work tho, and i can drag windows from 
one monitor
to another.

Evidence:   It does not crash when dualhead is disabled.  No related error
messages found in XFree86.0.log.
In /var/log/messages I get:
May  5 20:29:47 c800 kernel: mtrr: no MTRR for d580,80 
found
repeated many times with various addresses.

Thoughts?
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[Xpert]Dual head w/ dual nvidia cards (PCI AGP)

[David Antliff]

Hi, I was hoping someone might be able to assist me with this problem.

Originally I had a dual head setup with my GeForce2 Pro and a Matrox
Millenium card. Unfortunately there is an issue with GLX so I couldn't run
anything accelerated.

So I purchased an Nvidia TNT2 PCI card to complement my Ge2, because I
read at:

http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-April/016624.html

That:

  2)   NVIDIA's OpenGL works in non-Xinerama when all heads are NVIDIA
   cards.

Now, here's the problem:

When I start up the x server with the nvidia driver
(NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2802) screen 0 starts up fine (although the window
manager - fluxbox - doesn't load an image onto the root window) however
screen 1 (connected to the TNT2) Freezes on the Nvidia logo. I tried
disabling the logo and it froze on a blank white screen instead. Although
screen 0 appears to have started properly, the mouse can only be moved and
the buttons are not recognised. According to 'top', the XFree86 process is
sitting there on 99.4% utilisation.

I haven't found a way to kill the X server when it's at this point -
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't work and 'killall -9 XFree86' and even 'init 6'
cause linux to lock up totally (screen 0 'corrupts' to a mass of
horizontal grey stripes and screen 1 stays white or displays the logo,
depending on the XF86Config-4 option) requiring a hard reset. Can't even
ssh in from another box at this point. Doesn't even return a ping.

Funnily enough, dual head works absolutely fine when I use the nv
driver. At least I get my desktop but no hardware acceleration :(

I've tried various things like swapping the Screen load order around,
enabling/disabling logo, but I'm now at a loss - what can I try?

Any help that anyone can offer I'd really appreciate.

Thanks!
David
NZ

P.S. I've found this - is it relevant?

Multicard, Multimonitor
In some cases, the secondary card is not initialized correctly
by the NVdriver kernel module. You can work around this by
enabling the XFree86 Int10 module to soft-boot all secondary cards

Option UseInt10Module boolean

I tried this out and it had zero effect on the problem.


Here's some relevant files/info:

CPU: Athlon 1200
Memory: 512Mb
OS: Debian Linux (sid) running XFree86-4.1.0-16
Video Adapters:
Gigabyte GeForce2 Pro AGP (GV-GF2010)
Pine TNT2 M64 32MB PCI (PV-T03B-B4)

##
# output from scanpci
##

pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x09 function 0x: vendor 0x10de device 0x002d
 NVidia Riva Ultra 64

pci bus 0x1 cardnum 0x00 function 0x: vendor 0x10de device 0x0150
 NVidia GeForce2 GTS


##
# /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
##


Section Module
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
EndSection

Section Files

FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID
FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi

ModulePath  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
EndSection


Section InputDevice
Identifier  Standard Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  AutoRepeat500 30
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  PS2 Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/psaux
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   false
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection


Section Monitor
Identifier  Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 71
HorizSync   30.0-69.0
VertRefresh 50-130
EndSection


Section Monitor
Identifier  Philips 107MP
HorizSync   30.0-69.0
VertRefresh 50-80
EndSection


Section Device
Identifier  GeForce2 PRO
Driver  nvidia
#Driver nv
#Option NoLogotrue
#VideoRam   65536
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection


Section Device
Identifier  Nvidia TNT2
Driver  nvidia
#Driver nv
#Option NoLogotrue
#VideoRam   32768
BusID   PCI:0:9:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  GeForce2 PRO
Monitor Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 71
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   800x600
   

[Xpert]Dual-head on trident cyberbladeai1d

[Paul Matthias Diderichsen]

Dear Xperts.

Since I got my dual-boot RH7.2/Win98 laptop, it's been bugging me that 
windows does a nice xinerama-like two-screen virtual desktop, while linux 
and XFree86 4.1 doesn't...

Since linux is really my preferred OS, I'd be really happy if somebody
would tell me if xinerama for the trident driver with cyberbladeai1d
chipset is available.

Currently, my XF86Config-4 contains two devices, monitors and screens. 
Both devices contain a BusID PCI:1:0:0 since it's an AGP device. 
However, XFree86 doesn't like this and crashes with the message Entity 
already in use.


Any pointers? Help is greatly appreciated! :-)

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head on trident cyberbladeai1d

[Alan Hourihane]

Nope. The support for this hasn't been written.

It's on my to-do list, but fairly low priority.

Alan.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 08:57:00AM +0200, Paul Matthias Diderichsen wrote:
 Dear Xperts.
 
 Since I got my dual-boot RH7.2/Win98 laptop, it's been bugging me that 
 windows does a nice xinerama-like two-screen virtual desktop, while linux 
 and XFree86 4.1 doesn't...
 
 Since linux is really my preferred OS, I'd be really happy if somebody
 would tell me if xinerama for the trident driver with cyberbladeai1d
 chipset is available.
 
 Currently, my XF86Config-4 contains two devices, monitors and screens. 
 Both devices contain a BusID PCI:1:0:0 since it's an AGP device. 
 However, XFree86 doesn't like this and crashes with the message Entity 
 already in use.
 
 
 Any pointers? Help is greatly appreciated! :-)
 
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[Xpert]Dual Head on i830MG

[Éric Brunet]

Hello all,

I have bought a toshiba Satellite 3000 X11 laptop with an intel i830MG
graphic board. With Windows XP, I can use this computer in a dual-head
configuration: the laptop screen and an external screen on the vga port
can display different pictures. I would like to do the same thing with
linux.

I am using the official binaries of XFree 4.2.0, with the linux kernel
2.4.17 patched by redhat available on rawhide. Looking at the log of the
X server, I found the lines

(--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel i830M rev 3, Mem @ 0xe800/27, 0xe000/19
(--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel i830M rev 0, Mem @ 0xf000/27, 0xe008/19

Does this mean that the i830MG board is like two i830M boards ? To test
this, I write in my XF86Config file:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Anaconda Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  Screen1 RightOf Screen0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

[...]

Section Device
Identifier   Intel 830 MG
Driver   i810
VendorName   Intel
BoardName Intel 830
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

[...]

Section Device
Identifier   Intel 830 MG 2
Driver   i810
VendorName   Intel
BoardName Intel 830
BusID   PCI:0:2:1
EndSection

(And, of course, Screen0 references Intel 830 MG and Screen1
references Intel 830 MG 2)

Here are some selected lines of the logs:

(**) I810(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) I810(0): RGB weight 888
(==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
(II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(--) I810(0): Chipset: i830
(--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE800
(--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xE000
(II) I810(0): detected 8192K stolen memory.
(II) I810(0): I810CheckAvailableMemory: 200700k available
(==) I810(0): Will alloc AGP framebuffer: 8192 kByte
(==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe A:
(II) I810(0): LFP (Local Flat Panel) child device
[...]
(II) I810(1): VESA BIOS detected
(II) I810(1): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) I810(1): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB
(II) I810(1): VESA VBE OEM: Almador Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
[...]
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC supported
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 1 sec.
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully
[...]
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(**) I810(1): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) I810(1): RGB weight 888
(==) I810(1): Default visual is TrueColor
(EE) I810(1): Cannot read V_BIOS
(EE) I810(1): Int10 initialization failed.

And it doesn't work: I only have one screen working. So, what should I do ?
What is this V_BIOS thing ? Am I correct when I assume that the two screens
correspond to the two devices, or has the device on 0:2:1 nothing to do
with a graphic card ? What is this Pipe A in the log (Currently active
displays on Pipe A:) ? Is there a Pipe B that I should somehow
activate ?

I am pretty much in the dark and the documentation about the i810 driver
seems a bit outdated.

I am not sure that all of you would love having my full config file and
full log, but, of course, I can send them inprivate to anyone interested.

Thank you for any help,

Éric Brunet
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[Xpert]dual-head support on Toshiba Satelliate 2800

[Mike Alborn]

Google has failed me on this one, so I'm turning to you all:
(Please cc: me all replies, as I am not subscribed to this list.)

I have a Toshiba Satellite 2800-C302 with an S3 Savage IX-MV video
card, which supports dual-head displays. This works 100% under Windows,
so I know it's not a hardware problem. However, when I try to set up
this support under XFree86, I get the following error:

(WW) Symbol vbeModeInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o is 
unresolved!

and the server aborts with signal 11.

I am loading the following modules:
vbe
GLcore
bitmap
dbe
ddc
extmod
freetype
glx
int10
pex5
record
speedo
type1
xie
vgahw

I can post my entire XF86Config and the server output upon request.
This machine is running Debian unstable with XFree86 4.1.0.1, release
21 December 2001 installed as a Debian package.

TIA,
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Re: [Xpert]Dual Head, Dual Function

[Dr Andrew C Aitchison]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Matthew Smith wrote:
 
 I am designing an information system which presently has two networked 
 PCs in a box, one driving a touch screen and the other displaying 
 (different) information through a window.
 
 The human/machine interface is Mozilla running straight on top of 
 XFree86, without any window manager - only the one task needs to run.
 
 The two machines are identical and the type (touch screen or through the 
 window) of display is simply determined by Mozilla's start page which, 
 in turn, is determined by the login user.

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/multiuser/
describes a hack to run two X servers on one machine.

By the sound of it, you don't actually need keyboard+mouse on the
window screen. If so, there are dummy input devices you could use
which might simplify things in some way.

Running two X servers like this probably requires two separate graphics 
chips; I'd not recommend using a dual head card which uses a single 
graphics engine since I don't know that 2 servers can drive one chip
without trampling on each other. At the risk of mentioning a brand,
the Matrox G200 dual head card has two chips, so should be OK, but the 
G400 and G450 have a single chip, which I would expect to be more 
problematic.

I'n not aware of any way of making two copies of a standard application
run on one server but with each instance using adifferent input devices.

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[Xpert]Dual Head, Dual Function

[Matthew Smith]

Hi

I am designing an information system which presently has two networked 
PCs in a box, one driving a touch screen and the other displaying 
(different) information through a window.

The human/machine interface is Mozilla running straight on top of 
XFree86, without any window manager - only the one task needs to run.

The two machines are identical and the type (touch screen or through the 
window) of display is simply determined by Mozilla's start page which, 
in turn, is determined by the login user.

Does anyone have any experience with running two simultaneous servers, 
logging in as two different users, using either two video cards or one 
dual-head card?  Now that we have the likes of xinerama, is there a way 
that I can achieve my results with only one machine?

Since only two instances of Mozilla would be running, I would have 
thought that there would be little extra overhead, if I could get the 
two sessions on the one machine.

Cheers

Matthew Smith

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-Head for Radeon

[Michel Dänzer]

On Die, 2002-02-05 at 20:12, Tim Schröder wrote:

 i im wondering if theres DH-Support for Radeon Cards. Esp. for my new 7500... 

In 4.2.0, yes.

 Can someone tell me what I need to do to get it working. Or give me a
 hint how to extend it, to get it working.

You set it up like any other single chip driving multiple screens. There
should be plenty documentation about how to do it in this list's
archives, on the web, ... or just reading the XF86Config manpage should
be a good start. :)


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[Xpert]Dual-Head for Radeon

[Tim Schröder]

Hi there,

i im wondering if theres DH-Support for Radeon 
Cards. Esp. for my new 7500... 
While I was scanning through the drivers to see how 
they and X11 work if found notes about that in the radeon_probe( i think it was) 
source. Also mentioned is that this resource is marked as somewhat 
sharerable.
Can someone tell me what I need to do to get it 
working. Or give me a hint how toextend it, to get it working. Or maybe an 
advice to drop it because its to complicated ;-)

regards 
Tim Schröder

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 
  Please find attached a first-draft of Xinerama support for TwinView.
  The parameters are hacked for my particular setup at the moment.  I will
  finish this on Monday.  It won't be hard.  The whole thing would obviously
  be even easier if the nvidia driver were open-sourced.
 
Don't bother finishing it.  I already have code that does this.

It's not in the 1541 release, as far as I can tell.  I assume it will show
up sometime.

Here's another bug for you, while we're at it:  TwinView doesn't properly
update the display dimensions and DPI when it is enabled.  Thus, on my
side-to-side system the display dimensions are set to the *left* monitor
(only) which, when scaled to the screen size in pixels of the *entire*
display area (right and left) yields a grossly inaccurate calculated 
x-axis DPI.  This is then visible through X to applications (such as
netscape and ghostview) which select grossly inappropriate font sizes
(netscape) or scale everything twice as wide in the x-dimension
(ghostview).  The workaround is to set the 'DisplaySize' parameter in the
'Monitor' section to (in my case) twice as wide in the x dimension as the
monitor actually is.  TwinView should really handle this itself.
 --s

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$_=unxb24,join,@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$/;$d=
unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])9|ord$b[3];$d=$d8^($f=($t=255)($d
12^$d4^$d^$d/8))17,$e=$e8^($t($g=($q=$e147^$e)^$q*8^$q6))9
,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])110;$t
^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271))
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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
 
  On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
  
   Please find attached a first-draft of Xinerama support for TwinView.
   The parameters are hacked for my particular setup at the moment.  I will
   finish this on Monday.  It won't be hard.  The whole thing would obviously
   be even easier if the nvidia driver were open-sourced.
  
 Don't bother finishing it.  I already have code that does this.
 
 It's not in the 1541 release, as far as I can tell.  I assume it will show
 up sometime.

  It will show up in the Detenator 4 release for Linux when that comes
out.  The 1xxx branch is just a bug fix branch lately.

 
 Here's another bug for you, while we're at it:  TwinView doesn't properly
 update the display dimensions and DPI when it is enabled. 

   Somebody will take a look at it.


Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[Mark Vojkovich]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
 
  On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
   See

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xinerama/xinerama/xc/doc/XineramaSpec.txt?rev=1.1content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
   The required functionality should be very very simple to add: it's only
   four requests.
  
 That's not the Xinerama protocol you want.  That is the pending
  X.Org specification which none of the current applications support
  (I am one of the authors of that specification).
 
 So where can I find the current protocol?  Is it equally simple?

   The header file is at xc/include/extensions/Xinerama.h
in the XFree86 source tree and is probably on your system
already in /usr/include/X11/extensions.  It's simpler than
the proposed offical protocol.   XFree86 will support both
when the X.Org protocol is finalized.


Mark.

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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:

  p.s. if the 'nvidia' driver were open source, i could do this myself.
 
   I doubt that.
 
   Mark.

Please find attached a first-draft of Xinerama support for TwinView.
The parameters are hacked for my particular setup at the moment.  I will
finish this on Monday.  It won't be hard.  The whole thing would obviously
be even easier if the nvidia driver were open-sourced.

Note that you must
   #define SiteExtensionDirs nvhack
in xc/config/cf/xf86site.def in order to build this.
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# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a=unxC*,$_)[20]48){$h=5;
$_=unxb24,join,@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$/;$d=
unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])9|ord$b[3];$d=$d8^($f=($t=255)($d
12^$d4^$d^$d/8))17,$e=$e8^($t($g=($q=$e147^$e)^$q*8^$q6))9
,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])110;$t
^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16-2?0:$m17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271))
[$_]^(($h=8)+=$f+(~$g$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+xC*,@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval

 first-draft.tgz

Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 
  I have a multi-head GeForce2 MX card with two VGA outputs.
[...]
The nv driver that comes with XFree86 does not support the
 second output on the GeForce2 MX.

The driver documentation should definitely be updated.  'man nv' says
multi-head configurations are supported, which certainly led me to
believe that my multihead GeForce2 card would be supported.

  Only the nvidia driver for
 Linux available from NVIDIA's web site can use the second output.

Why is it that this is not supported?  Is it something I could fix w/ a
little hacking?
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# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a=unxC*,$_)[20]48){$h=5;
$_=unxb24,join,@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$/;$d=
unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])9|ord$b[3];$d=$d8^($f=($t=255)($d
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Re: [Xpert]Dual-head GeForce2 MX problems with 4.1.0.1

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:

Only the nvidia driver for
   Linux available from NVIDIA's web site can use the second output.
  
  Why is it that this is not supported?  Is it something I could fix w/ a
  little hacking?
 
If it could be fixed with a little hacking it would be done already.
 Unfortunately, it is quite alot of work and I'm not working on it.

OK, well then what's the ETA for Xinerama support for the closed-source
nvidia driver?  The TwinView stuff's unusable without window-manager
support: windows pop up split across displays, menu bars stretch clear
across both monitors, etc, etc, etc.
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# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$c=142;if((@a=unxC*,$_)[20]48){$h=5;
$_=unxb24,join,@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$/;$d=
unxV,xb25,$_;$b=73;$e=256|(ord$b[4])9|ord$b[3];$d=$d8^($f=($t=255)($d
12^$d4^$d^$d/8))17,$e=$e8^($t($g=($q=$e147^$e)^$q*8^$q6))9
,$_=(map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=($m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])110;$t
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