"Techno City" was 1984. The term was in use long before
Neil Rushton used it as a marketing hook, but it was a
different kind of descriptive than "house." Techno tends
to be more instrumental, and the vocals are often consciously
machine-like (Kraftwerk and Model 500 certainly share
that approach
josh wink and kevin saunderson at motor
3515 caniff, hamtramck
-Joe
jinjin_a_gogo: i wonder what he's listening to in those bigass headphones
while's he's spinning this shxt for us
Just got back from the gig... it's 6:20 here... and boy.. what a gig
it was... UR were absolutely amazing. It's been 10 years since i've
seen Mike play live and it was definitely worth the wait. Mills was
also on fire... dj'ing before and after UR's 1hr10min live show. As
you can imagine, this
Hey all, one of my friend is selling off a bunch of cds. If you are
interested let me know.
Cari Lekebusch - Det Jag Vet (H. Productions)
Jeff Mills - Time Machine (Tomorrow)
Jeff Mills - Lifelike (Sony Music Entertainment)
Thomas P. Heckmann - Raum (Mille Plateaux)
Various - Annex 2 (Tresor)
Va
Those samples have been buggin me for quite some time since i couldn't remember
the other record I owned with the same sample. So while listening to Howard
Stern this morning the answer popped in my head, Nick holder used the same
sample for "Carnival" on DNH or NRK If you purchaed the 'From wit
Dr. Nutcracker wrote:
So can we conclude then... that in early stages a lot of so called 'Detroit
Techno' classics are at
least very simular to Chicago House?
first time i heard fingers inc - distant planet, i thought it was some early
rhythim is rhythm [adventurous drum programming] derrick
Just added Octave One, Wildplanet, and Aux 88
interviews to the webzine portion of
http://cognitionaudioworks.com (hey, it's like a Direct
Beat/430 West interviewathon! :)) Still up are
interviews with Drexciya, Mike Grant, Alan Oldham (DJ
T-1000) and John Tejada, along with live performances
from
definatly a good take on this whole subject...but i have always believed
that larry heard should be in this conversation almost as much as ron
hardyderrick may definatly reflects ron hardy's dj style , but as for
the tracks derrick may made, larry heard had to be a huge influence. i
have heard
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, marc christensen wrote:
> The canonical history holds that it was indeed out of the marketing
> of the Ten Records Techno comp that the term "techno" first came to
> be used to describe the 313 sound and differentiate it more
> concretely from the sounds of Chicago's scene. B
>Damn Marc!
>You've got footnotes in there too...
>Seriously though, I like what you've said.
yeah me too. quality post.
really learning quite alot here, cool thread.
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Damn Marc!
You've got footnotes in there too...
Seriously though, I like what you've said.
MEK
marc christensen
The conclusion is accurate Alex - dub technology was a huge influence on
people like Ron Hardy. The wilder the sound the more he liked it (from what
I've read and heard in his mixes).
MEK
That's a very good analysis. One thing that springs to mind, for me, is
that, during the mid and late 1980s, there was another city apart from
Detroit where people were trying to develop a sound called "techno":
'We have heard techno attempted, and yet sadly you have failed
you should stick to vic
I believe D. May also lived in Chicago for a while -
He broke Strings of Life with Ron Hardy at the Music Box (or was it the
Warehouse?) and if you listen to a Hardy DJ mix and a May DJ mix
back-to-back you realize how influential Ron was on Derrick. I've always
associated May's music with Chic
Amp Fiddler live at the Jazzcafe on 20th Nov 2003
http://www.jazzcafe.co.uk
and John Arnold joins him, see below.
Usual suspects tonight at the Juno Rooms! : )
Have a good weekend y'all.
Cheers,
Anya
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The canonical history holds that it was indeed out of the marketing
of the Ten Records Techno comp that the term "techno" first came to
be used to describe the 313 sound and differentiate it more
concretely from the sounds of Chicago's scene. But there's more than
one example of May in particu
hia
i have a bit of news from sonomu.net - hope you don't mind!
best wishes
susanna
SONOMU
http://sonomu.net
all new sound noise music!
yep. sonomu.net has changed its clothes...
sonomu.net is now log-in free
yes. you can browse and read everything even if you're not a member.
however, t
>I can think of at least one exception Alex: 'e2-e4/Sueno Latino'
heh heh, theres always one...!
yeah, I guess theres a few. No, I was just thinking in general, 'of the
scene' if you know what I mean.
and I was kind of musing out loud. but, I've never been to chicago,
detroit or jamaica, or
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Dr. Nutcracker wrote:
> > >I always thought that Juan coined the term by taking the phrase from
> > Toffler's book when he made 'Techno City' . It was Rushton who jumped on
> it
> > and pushed it as a genre name to try and differentiate thier music from
> > Chicago House.
>
>
I can think of at least one exception Alex: 'e2-e4/Sueno Latino' :-)
k
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>Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:33 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: Re: (313) 'Techno' Music
>
>
>
>>that in early stages a lot of so call
>that in early stages a lot of so called 'Detroit Techno' classics are at
>least very simular to Chicago House?
I guess a bit
I always thought that maybe Chicago kind of had similarities with Jamaica
(slightly).
In that, both Chicago and jamaican producers took records from other
'scenes', r
That's what I call a gig.
k
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>From: Southern Outpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:44 PM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (313) for the japanese techno freaks
>
>
>UR's Timeline (Mike Banks, Gerald Mitchell, M.I.A and Dex) will be
>playing
Way back in high school,, PBS showed this documentary on Black American
music. It was about two weeks long I think with an hour to 2 hour long
shows.
Well I remember seeing the first one about Slave hymns and such and then
I lucked up and saw the one about the 80's. They went into depth about
the
> >I always thought that Juan coined the term by taking the phrase from
> Toffler's book when he made 'Techno City' . It was Rushton who jumped on
it
> and pushed it as a genre name to try and differentiate thier music from
> Chicago House.
And that's exactly what these heads were doing in the beg
Hi all,
Someone told me about Akufen playing in Nottingham tonight.
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/690941/Deep_Freak.html
I was suprised when I heard where he was playing and that I'd not seen
anything about it. The web-page above leaves me in some doubt about if
it is actually him? He seems
UR's Timeline (Mike Banks, Gerald Mitchell, M.I.A and Dex) will be
playing live tonight at Club Womb in Shibuya, Tokyo... Dj on the
night is Jeff Mills... UR and Jeff Mills... just like the old days...
it's gonna be sweet as hell.
Peace,
Patrick.
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>Don't forget that Kraftwerk had a tune named "Techno Pop" on Electric Cafe
>in 1986, as well.
aha, yes. when was juan's techno city out? was it '85 time?
check this YMO discography too..
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/YMO-discog.html
technopolis - 1979, technodelic - 1981.
I also saw another
Don't forget that Kraftwerk had a tune named "Techno Pop" on Electric Cafe
in 1986, as well.
Dennis
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>I always thought that Juan coined the term by taking the phrase from
Toffler's book when he made 'Techno City' . It was Rushton who jumped on it
and >pushed it as a genre name to try and differentiate thier music from
Chicago House.
aha, thats more than likely.
my head tends to get muddled a
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/page/0,10607,1068626,00.html
Wow...america's greates bands atm
Neptunes 4
Timbaland 3
Outcast 2
They all got some techno qualities their sounds too...
Not a bad list for a broadsheet.
Rav.
Ahem - it was a Channel 4 documentary - mail me and I'll try and sort you out
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> The Mothership Connection is a TV docume
>>
> The Mothership Connection is a TV documentary on "the black presence in
o=
> It also features May, Atkins, Mad Mike (masked) and Samuel Delaney. IIRC
=
> Sun Ra is mentioned too.=20
wo. where can I see this?
is it a US documentary? do these kind of things get archived?
if it was ever s
>Can anyone expand further; was it though up by the 'belleville 3' or
Rushton ?
hello chris! (my fellow manchester pikey)
erm, well. I could be completely and utterly wrong about this - so someone
correct me please!
but, I kind of thought in the back of my mind, that the techno term was
from 'th
Modulations is definitely an interesting one. It left
me in a bit of weird place. Form your own opinion...
It's not techno but Buena Vista Social Club is one of
my all time favorite music documentaries.
http://www.pbs.org/buenavista/
its music is on my longlonglong music wish list.
d
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here are two articles on file-sharing.
i know some people on this list are [like me] interested in these
developments.
first one from fortune magazine, about how file-sharing should be compared
to video-recording:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/print/0,15935,517663,00.html
second one is an a
http://www.caipirinha.com/Film/modulations/modcontents.html
Robert Taylor wrote:
"A documentary tracing the evolution of electronic music by cutting back and forth between
avant garde composers, Kraftverk's innovative synthesizer drones, Giorgio Moroder's Euro-discos,
Afrika Bambaataa's elec
Sounds interesting, do you know if it got a video release, or was it just shown
on TV?
You wrote:
>
> "A documentary tracing the evolution of electronic music by cutting back =
> and forth between avant garde composers, Kraftverk's innovative synthesiz=
> er drones, Giorgio Moroder's Euro-discos
"A documentary tracing the evolution of electronic music by cutting back and
forth between avant garde composers, Kraftverk's innovative synthesizer drones,
Giorgio Moroder's Euro-discos, Afrika Bambaataa's electro-funk and Prodigy's
worldwide stardom. "Modulations" celebrates, replicates and
Shame on me as well - what is Modulations?
You wrote:
> Of course - there is also Modulations, which is essential viewing and if =
> you haven't seen it already, shame on you!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Taylor=20
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:45 AM
> To: Mann, Ravinder [C
I know... Again Ive never heard of Modulations ..There all being noted for a
spending spree..So keep em coming...
did David Toop do a doc relating to his Ocean of Sound book/essays
Rav
-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 October 2003 11:57
To: Rober
Of course - there is also Modulations, which is essential viewing and if you
haven't seen it already, shame on you!
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Subject: RE: (313) Movies O
The Mothership Connection is a TV documentary on "the black presence in outer
space from Nasa to Star Trek, from George Clinton to Sci Fi".
It also features May, Atkins, Mad Mike (masked) and Samuel Delaney. IIRC Sun Ra
is mentioned too.
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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [ma
Hey Maarten
>there some kind of accapella version or an extended intro version of
>the song "love & happiness" by first choice?
well I don't really know. Are you aware of the salsoul dj tools series
(relatively new)?
Is love & happiness one of those?
they're really great for the dj's - seper
this ones been buggin' me this a.m. although i generally disagree with
dance-genre labelling (the best was 'intelligent techno', as opposed to
unintelligent techno I suppose !)I'm usually quite interested to find out where
these terms come from, whether it's a group, person or magazine.
I rem
Ive been meaning to ask this question for a while. Now its my chance since
its friday OT day...
What movies/docs would ppl recommend getting their hands on that may be of
interest to members of this list and are related to music that is discussed
on this list (wider than just techno then).
Thank
Wow ... I love both albums! Even though Ayro's album is danceable,
I'll agree that it's a tough one if you want to spin it out and throw
it in a mix. It is very much Jeremy singing and playing his heart out
... John isn't crafting songs exactly the same way, but still manages
to find its pla
You haven't heard of the new technoclash phenom... opps have I said too much
already?
;)
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>To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: (313) Pete Tong
>Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 1:18 AM
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>
>
>
> Hmmm, I can see that but when was the last time techno w
There's *some* good magazines, don't lose faith!
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>From: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (313) Pete Tong
>Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 7:12 PM
>
> magazines are changing too; the free cd you used to get was always
> mainstream dance/trance/prog h
There was a rumour he didn't like techno and that's why he never played it
(someone told me, forget who) but he says it's because the harder styles
don't fit his radio slot. He plays what he can make work.
He helped break Inner City's recent(ish) Good Life remix too and says Kevin
Saunderson is one
Funny I interviewed Andre last Sunday and he said that if anything he wanted
to stretch the imaginations of his own community who listen to straight
hip-hop.
Of the singing he said he didn't think he was much good, and that he
couldn't hope to aspire to Prince in that dept.
He released a non rap al
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