I love the freaky bits, they're sort of what Kraftwerk are all about for me.
UK tour would be great but not holding my breath, anyone know when
Kraftwerk last appeared in the UK - was it Tribal Gathering?
Anyone go to The Big Chill this weekend?
Cinematic Orchestra were fantastic, but
bring on the tour!
At 11:05 pm +0100 5/8/03, Andrew wrote:
Yes, it's pretty nice, no great stylistic innovation but who cares
when the melodies and textures are so good - highlights for me were
the tracks Aero Dynamik and 'Elektro Cardiogram. Certainly worth
purchasing + comes out on my
Ralf mentioned in an interview in a Swiss newspaper that they are
considering an autumn/winter of Europe.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:55 PM
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Has anyone picked this up yet?
It was posted to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.electronic 2 days ago, where've
you been? :-)
1st impression: It's Kraftwerk, it washes over you like a familiar
perfume from an old girlfriend, but ultimately it's benign, it's
inoffensive and despite the familiar odor,
Yes, it's pretty nice, no great stylistic innovation but who cares
when the melodies and textures are so good - highlights for me were
the tracks Aero Dynamik and 'Elektro Cardiogram. Certainly worth
purchasing + comes out on my birthday in the UK - hurrah!
Yeah, that's what I thought. Even
Has anyone picked this up yet?
Yes, I have a promo on my desk.
Haven't played it yet. Report later in the day. ;)
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From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 8:42 AM
Has anyone picked this up yet?
Woah that was quick!!
I think it's excellent, you'll definitely like it!!
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From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:24 PM
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Yes, I have a promo on my
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Subject: (313) Tour De France
Soundtracks
Tracklisting for the new Kraftwerk LP
Prologue
Tour de France Etape 1
Tour de France Etape 2
Tour de France Etape 3
Chrono
Vitamin
Aero dynamik
Titanium
Elektro Kardiogramm
La Forme
Regeneration
Tour de France (I think it'll be a reworked version of the '83 original)
www.kraftwerk.com
the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol worshiping in my opinion is
why didn't we hear
more of that sound when they played live in the late 80's, early 90's, or eve
mid 90's?
They are obviously influenced by todays dance trends, I don't see their music
as being really that
original,
of steam as it were,
but to say that they were'nt original is way off the mark.
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:50 PM
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the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make futuristic
sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding on
synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds
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The
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make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I
can make futuristic sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and
electronic sounding on synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating
A stunning observation!
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From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make futuristic
and comparisons (and that
type of thinking is usually condusive to broader horizons), but you really
do put your foot in your mouth alot...
Dennis
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From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:00 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make
futuristic sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding
on synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds
now, thats what i call CLASSIC ;)
fab
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I don't see their music as being really that
original?
er. so who else sounds like them then? And who did they copy? Or is
this another classic spw wind-up?
I can see what you are saying about them being around at the same time as
electronic
and entertaining - it's
*educational* too!
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Sent: 10 July 2003 15:00
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I
can
that original.
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Sent: 10 July 2003 15:07
To: Brendan Nelson
Cc: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
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rock is just the sound of electrified strings, plucked, and
acoustic drums
hmmm i
I just made my point with the man machine concept, which is a conventional
way of interpreting
technology at the time.
Their music was not unconventional and abstract like say a Mortin Subotnick.
I don't know your age or which particular era of Kraftwerk you're
referencing (there is
look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
just interested to know.
Thanks.
Alex
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look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic
question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with
out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
just interested to know.
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
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just interested to know.
Thanks.
Alex
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individual, non
I think this was eloquently answered by JT just now Alex - something about
their influence seeping into the collective unconcious (those latter two are
my words, but I think - *think*) that's what JT meant. So we all have no
need to exhume any argument about who did what first! ;-)
Indeed -
Detroit, you have to look at a DJ called Electrifying Mojo: he had five
hours every night, with no format restrictions. It was on his show that I
first heard Kraftwerk.
Right, cool. Thanks for that. I was interested because I couldn't believe
it!
It's just well, I dunno, out of the 'belleville
On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, Dave Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'? as this was relased around the same
time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space... I don't know which one
was first.
I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after Alleys. A better
inspiration for
Apologies if you get this twice, because I recieved it through 313, but it
appears no one else did...
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??? or is there going to be
some new goddies on it???
ryan burns
From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brendan Nelson
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313@hyperreal.org
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:00:04
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07/10/03 04:24 PMSubject: Re: (313) Tour de
France LP
well even the video is a bit lame, lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime
I feel safe saying
this even before their new albums comes out.
At least they have descent taste in newer dance music and haven't tried to go
the mainstream dance
rout with genres like trance.
My complaint isn't with
Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of
Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one
of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every
day.
I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: (313) Tour de France
Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of
Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from
one
i think it is really good, the australians have got the yellow jersey a
couple of times and... oh you mean the song
dunno about that
ab
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From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:33 PM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: (313) Tour de France
I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though
and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how
disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it
cheers
Jason Brunton
On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 10:02 am, Sean Creen wrote:
Am I the
But you WOULD say that!
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:16 AM
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I can see why people don't think it's that great, but it is a grower...and
it does sound like
spw
well even the video is a bit lame,
you think? I think its a pretty cool vid. I'd rather watch this that a lot
of the trash you get on MTV?
I liked it, got a little buzz from the first time watching it.
lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime I feel safe saying
this even before their new
I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though
and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how
disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it
Jason Brunton
I agree. To me, TDF03 is nothing short of brilliant. Two major
characteristics of
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France
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France
Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so
Hi,
The video of Kraftwerk's Tour de France 03 is no online at kraftwerk.com:
http://www.kraftwerk.com/video/TDF03_real.html
Enjoy,
Hans
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Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is almost becoming a bad cliche.
--- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
The video of Kraftwerk's Tour de France 03 is no online at kraftwerk.com:
http://www.kraftwerk.com/video/TDF03_real.html
Enjoy,
Hans
1) i saw the real tour de france the other day
2) kraftwerk, i think, inhabit cliches quite well.
3) kraftwerk doing basic channel seems very intriguing, innovative or not.
ben
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, spw wrote:
Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is
When they played live in Paris last year, they produced music which
seemed somehow to absorb many different elements of electronic music
from the past 20 years, including Basic Channel's trademark incessant
repetitive dub AND Jeff Mill's intricate string-laden Axis soundscapes
without being
yea sure...thats all they are trying to do is sound like basic channelonce
again you have made me laugh
michael
www.renegaderhythms.com
spw wrote:
Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is almost becoming a bad cliche.
--- Hans Veneman [EMAIL
Caught an mp3 of this today. At first listening, I didn't think that it was
that great, but like Expo 2000 it worms it's way into your affections nicely
with repeated listening..I've been playing it non-stop now for about 30
mins!.
Very much a dance-floor track, some nice vocodered vocals very
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