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From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tristan Watkins wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
150 bpm, play
Hi peepz
Who was the first dj to modify there turntables to
plus 15? Was it the wizard or John Acquaviva
or...
Thanx
Sam
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Dunno - but I know Dave Angel was fond of doing it in his banging hard phase
in the early 90s.
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From: Sam Karmel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:41 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] which dj invented + 15
Hi peepz
Who
Sam Karmel wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
Who was the first dj to modify there turntables to
plus 15?
i dunno but i'd rather kill the dude; pitched technics are horrible to
play at; and you end up playing all the time all the records at least at
+4 - because pitch in area 0-+2
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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:53 AM
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Sam Karmel wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
Who was the first dj to modify there turntables to
plus
2002 16:32
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From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sam Karmel wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002
Amen.. Theo of all people should be kept nicely in key.
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From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:38 AM
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I really like to play those Theo
God Bless you my son :0)
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From: Bulger, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 September 2002 16:48
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Amen.. Theo of all people should be kept nicely in key
Karipuro; 313
Subject: RE: [313] which dj invented + 15
God Bless you my son :0)
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From: Bulger, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 September 2002 16:48
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Amen.. Theo of all
Tristan Watkins wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
150 bpm, play longer sets and build your set, and buy enough records to
build the set from 117bpm to 150bpm. that's the right way.
It's definitely not the best way to do it, but I can't say I'd never do it
again. I really like to
mmm i dunno. i just usually think that tracks are done for some tempo
for some reason. and i like to keep the tracks as they were
intended to
be.
Surely by that rational you wouldn't be impressed by someone cutting up a
track as it was originally intended to be one whole piece of music ??
with perfect pitch, +4 or greater starts sounding pretty awkward.
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From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:57 AM
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Subject: RE: [313] which dj invented + 15
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Sakari Karipuro wrote:
[snip]
i dunno but i'd rather kill the dude; pitched technics are horrible to
play at; and you end up playing all the time all the records at least at
+4 - because pitch in area 0-+2 usually does nothing. and you can't mix
long mixes with pitched
Langsman, Marc wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
mmm i dunno. i just usually think that tracks are done for some tempo
for some reason. and i like to keep the tracks as they were
intended to
be.
Surely by that rational you wouldn't be impressed by someone cutting up a
track as
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I inquired about this and heard nothing back from the Final
Scratch people.
The only digital key correction that I've heard is on the Stanton
turntables, and it sounds awful. Almost like a double beat.
Mixing with it
turned
Subject: Re: [313]
which dj invented + 15
09/04/02 11:04 AM
Tristan Watkins wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
150 bpm, play longer sets and build your set, and buy enough records
to
build the set from 117bpm to 150bpm. that's the right way.
It's
313@hyperreal.org
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which dj invented + 15
09/04/02 11:04 AM
Tristan Watkins wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
150 bpm, play longer sets and build your set, and buy enough records
Jeffrey Paul wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Sakari Karipuro wrote:
long mixes with pitched decks, the pitch control stops being exact quite
soon. ie. pitching will ruin the decks. also, the components in the
pitch wont last long with wrong voltages and
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Bulger, Tim wrote:
I inquired about this and heard nothing back from the Final Scratch people.
The only digital key correction that I've heard is on the Stanton
turntables, and it sounds awful. Almost like a double beat. Mixing with it
turned on is annoying and
affecting the pitch in real time.
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From: Jeffrey Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Bulger, Tim
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Subject: RE: [313] which dj invented + 15
On Wed, 4 Sep
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
I've thought about pitching at least one of my decks - especially when I'd
love to mix a Kraftwerk tune in with some Direct Beat tracks - I'd love to
kick Musik Non-Stop up to about +10 and jack it properly. What is the
chance of
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From: Bulger, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:13 PM
To: Jeffrey Paul; Bulger, Tim
Cc: Langsman, Marc; Ian Cheshire; Tristan Watkins; Sakari Karipuro; 313
Subject: RE: [313] which dj invented + 15
This would work, but why couldn't you dynamically correct
then again my friends other deck cannot be used between 0-+4 mark because
it drifts so badly. above that it keeps the pitch so you can play but it
is
very slow to react to pitch changes.
I have 3 technics SL-1210mkII and I have the same problem, that is why I
think I will make them back to
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Bulger, Tim wrote:
This would work, but why couldn't you dynamically correct the key based
on the amount of pitch? There should be a mathematical function for
determining the amount of skew and correcting it. That way, you could
record everything and the original speed
Maarten Baute wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
then again my friends other deck cannot be used between 0-+4 mark because
it drifts so badly. above that it keeps the pitch so you can play but it
is very slow to react to pitch changes.
I have 3 technics SL-1210mkII and I have
-- Original Message --
From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i personally rather listen music unmixed than listening to
someone
forcefully trying to mix stuff that don't fit together.
i agree with this, though i guess not too many others do. i hate
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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: [313] which dj invented + 15
I imagine this will come in time, but its a very cpu intensive task to be
done realtime in software - F/S looks
::) wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
ableton live does tempo changes while leaving pitch intact.
as does max/msp and acid
it's called time-stretching, keeps the pitch but changes the tempo.
then there's pitch-shifting. which does just the opposite. changes the
pitch but not the
it's called time-stretching, keeps the pitch but changes the tempo.
example of 500% time-stretching, cfr. speedy j - something for your mind
(plus 8, !hype):
oeettthhigg
g
ffoo
Maarten Baute wrote on Wed, 4 Sep 2002 about following:
it's called time-stretching, keeps the pitch but changes the tempo.
example of 500% time-stretching, cfr. speedy j - something for your mind
(plus 8, !hype):
mmm i like the track. i have the music man 12 and i'm not sure if the
mix
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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:37 PM
To: Langsman, Marc; 'Bulger, Tim'; Jeffrey Paul
Cc: Langsman, Marc; Ian Cheshire; Tristan Watkins; Sakari Karipuro; 313
Subject: Re: [313] which dj invented + 15
ableton live does tempo changes while leaving pitch intact.
as does max/msp
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