Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't think isolationist policies of any kind can help the US at this stage. I just don't think Americans have any idea how they are perceived even by loyal allies right now. The Australian/US trade agreement has been so one-way for us it's not funny. American mass culture dominates the world,

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread badi
The US, not Europe, is the cultural, political and economic hegemony. assuming you are attaching a connotative meaning like oppression to the term hegemony, then i totally agree and we americans are also victims of our own hegemony...in fact there would be no need for such a suggestion except

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread /0
earth sucks, hurray for earth -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music The US, not

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread badi
earth is great...people??? hm b

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread /0
oooh misanthropy now we're seperating who's-cool from the who's-not :)_Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:46 AM Subject: Re: (313) EU Boycott and an

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread badi
what is misanthropy? big words confuse me b

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
No 'hegemony' does not necessarily imply oppression at all. But the US is like the Roman Empire - a super coloniser - and it will fall if Americans don't make the attempt to look at themselves from outside and engage. I always believed Clinton was more inclined that way but that's my political

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread badi
But the US is like the Roman Empire - a super coloniser - and it will fall i was just thinking of the unique position that dj mani is in being an american yet at the same time post-colonial... imagine what's going through his minddon't mistake that to mean i'm supportive...just

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
But the US is like the Roman Empire - a super coloniser - and it will fall i was just thinking of the unique position that dj mani is in being an american yet at the same time post-colonial... I understand his angst, I really do. I am just saying how his stance could backfire as most people

RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Brendan Nelson
Lastly, I depart with this. Why is that the USA is up in arms when technology jobs are outsourced to India and China, yet not at all DISGUSTED when the European magazines and scene come into our scenes demanding huge fees and arriving with difficult attitudes, resulting to a trend of the US

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread robin
yeah all that confused me too. it would make sense if it was something about european artists that was stopping the US scene develop or were stifling it. i didnt think that was the case at all. a lot of american artists are choosing to move to europe for one reason or another, which is a

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Jason Brunton
I have to agree with you Brendan- the is no way in the world that European DJ's have a monopoly on being bad-attitude, money grabbers- I know enough club promoters to have heard 1000 different storied about supposedly underground US DJ's acting like prima donna twats. That doesn't EVER make

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread KiDD*e*
Alala...Freedom Kiss, of course, cause its the Freedom Touch. Btw, i read a survey result this morning, that after this debate Bush/Kerry, if the vote would take place in France, Kerri would win with 87%. Thats crazy. But as Robert says : Let's not turn this into a Europe vs USA bitter flame war.

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Martin Dust
People, The last thing we need right now is a THEM and US war, not only is it juvenile, it's clear the work of someone who doesn't understand the scene or the people. Being a twat isn't exclusive to DJ's/Promoters/Builders/Bakers/Candle Stick Makers - Wake up. I suggest you take your bitter

RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Ken Odeluga
Martin Dust wrote: The last thing we need right now is a THEM and US war, Agreed Martin. Alex, I agree with you that its pretty annoying to have this. However I do think that it's reflective of a fairly rare attitude within the sphere of the music which we like. The person who made this post

RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
Is all of this political/geographical stuff a response to the downfall of Techno in america? Because if it is, it's pointed at the wrong region. The problems we're having here have been caused by americans, not europeans. I'm a producer and not d.j. so I'm not talking in those terms. Don't get me

RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
Oh btw, I'm in america,, The South East of all places. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music Is all of this political/geographical stuff a

Re: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music

2004-10-01 Thread Dennis DeSantis
I'm not even sure if it's an issue of fault. It's just the way markets evolve. I've sent out demos to lots of labels, and the ones who've responded with interest happened to all be in Europe. I'd be happy to release music on US labels. But if my music isn't what they're looking for, so be