Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

2008-04-26 Thread Kowalsky
ginal Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't people call that dubste

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2008-04-26 Thread Kowalsky
Yes, i agree with you about dubstep. I would not say this in a list that's not very dubstep friendly, and i've already said this, for sure, in the dubstep forums. In the dubstep forums i stand up to other genres, like techno. :-) The "this" i would not say, but i got to, is: the same downpath

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2008-04-26 Thread darnistle
nt: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm

Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

2008-04-26 Thread Alex Lugo
You really don't understand a ;). It's sarcasm. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:22:45 PM Subject: R

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2008-04-26 Thread Frank Glazer
Oh PLEASE. I'd hardly call UR a "macho boys club" relative to, say, techstep. The UR guys are all about collaboration and community, not competition and one-upsmanship. If you think UR is a boys club you either don't understand what darnistle was getting at, or you REALLY don't understand UR. O

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2008-04-26 Thread darnistle
ial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Rec

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2008-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UR? ;-) > -Original Message- > From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 April 2008 16:16 > > Is it just me, or has the Detroit techno scene managed to sidestep the > "macho boys club" musical mentality that seems to eventually plague > most > other scenes?

Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

2008-04-26 Thread darnistle
You don't need to be on drugs to appreciate psytrance, though the music may "click" more if you've experienced the drugs and can relate to the headspace the music comes from. Same is probably true of any musical form that is closely linked to certain drugs (dub and pot, gabber and speed, etc)

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
It has more a garage shaped beat than a half tempo dubstep beat. But it's a styles crossover, anyway. Kw On 24/04/2008, at 01:00, Frank Glazer wrote: this doesn't sound anything at all like the dubstep that i've heard. sounds like techno to me. and i like it. 2008/4/23 Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTE

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
Psytrance raves, here, are megaevents attended by the average high school bunch. Kw On 23/04/2008, at 16:34, Frank Glazer wrote: Brasil must be a very interesting place if the average public listens to psytrance and psytrance is considered mainstream. Granted, psytrance has changed a lot si

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2008-04-23 Thread Frank Glazer
this doesn't sound anything at all like the dubstep that i've heard. sounds like techno to me. and i like it. 2008/4/23 Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com

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2008-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting. They have a totally different crowd here in the UK. > From: J.C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 19:57 > > Referring to the fan base when I put that out there. :) > > Must not be as obvious in some communities as it is on the west coast. > > On 23 April 2008, Kowa

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2008-04-23 Thread Frank Glazer
Brasil must be a very interesting place if the average public listens to psytrance and psytrance is considered mainstream. Granted, psytrance has changed a lot since 99-2001 when i was into it, but i still can't imagine it being mainstream. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTEC

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
Still disagree. The dubstep public has got nothing to do with the psytrance public. The psytrance public is the average public that receives information only thru mainstream "channels". The public is that guy who wants to go to a crazy rave, to a crowded place with frenetic music going on.

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2008-04-23 Thread Frank Glazer
wha??? as a former psytrance dj who can still appreciate it to some extent (shutup tom;) i fail to see any comparison at all between the two, except perhaps that you really need to be on massive quantities of drugs to "get" either one. i hate dubstep though. i have a

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
Dubstep is the new psytrance? I mean: ??? On 23/04/2008, at 14:59, J.C. wrote: It's the new Psytrance, remember. Even with that as the case though, there have been SOME tracks that have moved me. MOST though. ;) On 23 April 2008, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: i still cant be less impres

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
You mean what i expect a record store to say? I expect they do what they do, they wanna sell records and make the hype lovers believe they're really into something. But that's annoying. I wouldn't do like that if i had a record shop. Guess i would be a bad record seller. :) On 23/04/2008, a

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2008-04-23 Thread Odeluga, Ken
They do have a spattering of 'this record stinks' reviews. This makes them look even dumber, in my book! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:19 PM To: [313] Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

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2008-04-23 Thread Martin Dust
On 23 Apr 2008, at 17:16, Kowalsky wrote: I agree about boomkat. Their reviews are awful. Everything is wonderful, essential. Everything is limited. They love to hype over unknown artists releases and speculate it's an aphex twin release if it has the word "window" on the title. Ridiculous

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2008-04-23 Thread Kowalsky
say there's nothing good in the genre, but the slavish drivel that is written about it by some people about it just puts me off. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recall

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2008-04-23 Thread Toby Frith
nothing good in the genre, but the slavish drivel that is written about it by some people about it just puts me off. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno

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2008-04-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Mann, Ravinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > next dj kicks mix is going to be burial > > 'We hear whisperings from the studio that he may treat his dearest > dubstep, techno and even r'n'b tracks with his unique production style > before mixing them with exclusiv

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2008-04-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder
- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 16:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread i still cant be less impressed with dubstep. it annoys me to no end how much people are on its jock. tom On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:5

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2008-04-23 Thread Robert Taylor
or Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread Silly me! So what defines dubstep? Hard and edgy? Firm and moist? Turgid? > Burial isn't really dubstep - it's too wet and soft > > > Rob Taylor > VT

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2008-04-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? Wouldn't > people call that > dubstep?. Not that it matters, I think. nah, that is 2-step. it really has no connection in beat patterns, sound pallette,

RE: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread

2008-04-23 Thread Nik Stoltzman
gt; From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 2008 16:19 > To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that dubstepxtechno thread > > Weren't you raving about the last Burial album a few months back? > Wouldn't people

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2008-04-23 Thread Robert Taylor
- sleepwalk >> 15. 2562 - kameleon 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) 17. >> 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - >> den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus >> >> Rav >> >> >> -Original Message-

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2008-04-23 Thread Nik Stoltzman
up sound - sleepwalk >> 15. 2562 - kameleon >> 16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix) >> 17. 2562 - channel two >> 18. ramadanman - carla >> 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz >> 20. headhunter - locus lotus >> >> Rav >> >> >>

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2008-04-23 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
gh - brother (2562 remix) > 17. 2562 - channel two > 18. ramadanman - carla > 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz > 20. headhunter - locus lotus > > Rav > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 April 200

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2008-04-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder
er (2562 remix) 17. 2562 - channel two 18. ramadanman - carla 19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz 20. headhunter - locus lotus Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2008 15:00 To: [313] Cc: Kowalsky Subject: Re: (313) Recalling that

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2008-04-23 Thread robin
On 23 Apr 2008, at 15:44, Paul wrote: I djed with him a few months back.. he was doing 2562 / a made up sound djing set which encompassed house, techno, bits of dubstep and all manner of thingsall nicely mixed up... and a really nice guy as well... Interesting. I'd like to hear a m

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2008-04-23 Thread Paul
I djed with him a few months back.. he was doing 2562 / a made up sound djing set which encompassed house, techno, bits of dubstep and all manner of thingsall nicely mixed up... and a really nice guy as well... p robin wrote: On 23 Apr 2008, at 14:53, Kowalsky wrote: http://www.boomk

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2008-04-23 Thread robin
On 23 Apr 2008, at 14:53, Kowalsky wrote: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995 Nice, and I'm not normally a big dubstep fan (I don't dislike it, more I prefer other styles). robin...

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2008-04-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dave huismans ole! Kowalsky schreef: http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=93995