Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/4/06, Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching Jeremy Ellis working the MPC is the epitome of using that piece of gear live, IMHO. I haven't seen it done better. ill agree with that! the opening bit of his set at movement 03 when he was rocking the mpc solo was absolutely incredible.

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Tristan Watkins
There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Simon Hindle
I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else. Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a

(313) RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Tristan Watkins
-Original Message- From: Simon Hindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 01:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else. Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
No wonder there's so many bugs in 5 :) m On 5 Apr 2006, at 12:36, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread robin
Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Neil Wiernik
, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread robin
that's for a different project though isn't it? i do however stand (partially) corrected. :) robin... /0 wrote: you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No wonder there's so many bugs in 5 :) m On 5 Apr 2006, at 12:36, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Neil Wiernik
thats a different project atlantic waves is his project with deadbeat its not monolake solo... I know he still uses max/msp for his robert henkie and atlantic waves stuff but not for the monolake project when hes playing live any how... Ive hosted robert a number of times in toronto and the

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
as interested as I am in parsing the english language with you, (ie I didnt mention monolake, I mentioned robert, who solely comprises monolake at this point) I think i'll go home and play with audio instead. :D Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats a different project

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
he's played in detroit as monolake, using this software to communicate/collab with deadbeat I think. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's for a different project though isn't it? i do however stand (partially) corrected. :) robin... /0 wrote: you're right, this

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge $500 for I'll give you or ableton a bell, until then I'll wait until they've finished the next 12 builds before they get midi to work properly, if that's alright with you?

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Stenton
there's a pic of Sendex's set-up here: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/tony_little/TTB007.jpg -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 01:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
That looks pretty cool Dave, all that kit in a sweat hot nightclub tho, don't think I could :) - Original Message - From: Dave Stenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] there's a pic of Sendex's set-up here: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/tony_little/TTB007.jpg

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
go back to sleep martin, you've outlived your use to me. - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
@o/ Keep posting troll shxt and you just may outlive your use to the world. And I thought to was a hater :). Plus, aren't you the one always whining about how if it's not on topic it shouldn't be here? Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... On another note. And

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
you're saying that monolake is offtopic on a techno list, and j dilla isn't?! On Apr 5, 2006, at 16:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Jason Brunton
come from msp patchers - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Jason Brunton
I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 19:00, Martin Dust wrote: You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Jason Brunton
Well in Joe's defence I'd say a hefty proportion of the stuff on the list isn't directly about Detroit these days- Robert Henke's music is certainly a hell of a lot closer (in my mind) to the spirit of adventurous electronic music that Detroit helped to foster/inspire- there's a shed load

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Jason Brunton
, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread J.T.
Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 5, 2006 5:32 PM To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? you're saying that monolake is offtopic on a techno list, and j dilla isn't?! On Apr 5, 2006, at 16:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... -- matt kane's

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
I've got a Powercore (plus warious Waldorf and Acess 3rd party plug ins) There's a few memory problems with the Powercore but it seems that when you add a Ti it becomes a world of pain, a good friend sold their Ti because of the grief... and it too works fine with Live on my system-

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
no problems here either...but the midi is pretty simplified so i'm still using cubase for more delicate midi projects... what kinda bugs have you runt into martin? All kinds :) Crashes, missing data, out of sync mostly ps that richard h kirk track on the dust science myspaz page does it

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
h, I'M not saying ANYTHING'S off topic. I'm saying this cat has .habitually called folks out for being techno-but-not-Detroit or Detroit-but-not-techno or any other type of OT he can think of, meanwhile lobbing troll comments to one of the most polite people I've read messages from here

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
-Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:55 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I'm sorry if what I said offended you Kamal. and as I do

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread J.T.
I have no problems at all with 4.1.4 but five has been a pain where midi has been concerned. Dropping notes, holding notes and switching patches - and if you do a long jam session the whole thing starts to lose sync... ohh yeah, rewind...i got those same problems. i just figured it was my comp

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... Black Dog did a few remixes for her, Caroline Martin is also worth checking out, she has a really soft lullaby voice that manages to transfer

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
I have no problems at all with 4.1.4 but five has been a pain where midi has been concerned. Dropping notes, holding notes and switching patches - and if you do a long jam session the whole thing starts to lose sync... ohh yeah, rewind...i got those same problems. i just figured it was my

RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... Black Dog did a few remixes for her, Caroline Martin is also worth checking out, she has

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread Martin Dust
Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Coil and Sol Invictus may be worth a look then, although I recommend to listen before you buy as some of it may be a tad way out there - I'll have a dig through my collection and see if I can add more names to the list... Have you tried Fire+Ice/Death In June

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-05 Thread /0
- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? Nh, I'M

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Jamil Ali
I'm actually very curious to know what people mean when they say they play live. What exactly are they playing live? They only have two hands For drums, they can play some kind of pattern, but if they're playing even close to a whole beat, they'd have no hands left. Do they mostly just

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread /0
everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live. basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting tracks - Original Message - From: Jamil Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/4/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live. basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting tracks which essentially is live arranging for the most part. although you can use some roland drum machines (808, 909 definitely, not sure about the 626

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread /0
if you'r;e using x0x gear in write mode, you're missing the boat. its all about tap input - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? On 4/4

Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Alex Lugo
Watching Jeremy Ellis working the MPC is the epitome of using that piece of gear live, IMHO. I haven't seen it done better. Peace, Alex --- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/4/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live. basically