Well, such are my limitations, I don't give two short smegs about the Blit
or "The Labs", Johnny come latelelys that they are, promoting new editors
such as "ed". Instead of edt, the one true editor. But when I was a lad,
these many years ago, we did have to pick up the phone - without dial,
there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEJoWfobpA
There is something deeply wrong with many things. Just ask jwz:
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2017/04/would-you-like-to-supersize-that-for-a-dollar-extra/
But at least ed is still the standard editor. Such is progress.
On 12 April 2017 at 15:16, Prof Brucee wrote:
> Ubuntu doesn't return all proces
Excellent suggestions by Kurt. I'm sorely tempted to submit them to the
recruiter, but I don't think he'd get the joke.
g
>
>
>> On Sep 21, 2016 9:27 PM, "Winston Kodogo" wrote:
>> Jules isn't even as convincing as Mark V Shaney.. At least Choate was a real
>> person and knew a lot about soldering coaxial cables.
>>
>>> On 20 September 2016 at 11:56, Jules Mer
Jules isn't even as convincing as Mark V Shaney.. At least Choate was a
real person and knew a lot about soldering coaxial cables.
On 20 September 2016 at 11:56, Jules Merit <
jules.merit.eurocorp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Go away Die NSA release fails to go beyond...
> "759M memory: 256M kernel dat
Channeling my inner Quine here. Did you mean:
The operation is not "copy" but "snarf". It's called "snarf" because
snarf is what it does.
Of course the White Knight would also have asked what the name of the
operation was called.
But be that as it may, a simple explanation of the difference betw
To add to the previous comments, I'm a huge fan of Nemo's “Introduction to
Operating Systems Abstractions”:
https://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.intro.pdf
It's just a brilliant guide to finding your way around the system, and
doing some programming in it, especially if you're not a kernel-head and
talk of
ource. Where is Boyd to threaten you with assault weapons when you need
him?
On 2 September 2016 at 10:56, Winston Kodogo wrote:
> Thanks to Brantley for his thoughtful musings. Me, I love many things
> about Sam, but I just can't use it as my everyday editor. The structural
> regul
"Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 2016 still function largely like
Windows 95."
Oddly, that's not true. Mind you, I've always been a Mac user. But I've
recently been spending some time in Excel VBA under Windows 10, and the
interface in the editor is still pure Windows 95,and boy does it ev
Thanks to Brantley for his thoughtful musings. Me, I love many things about
Sam, but I just can't use it as my everyday editor. The structural regular
expression stuff is a work of genius, but I still find, such are my
limitations, that the user interface is just too clunky and retro.
On 2 Septemb
Well, the meaning of the word "ilk" has always puzzled me. As in "Sir
Robert Pike of that Ilk". But then I'm not Scottish. Or Scotch, whichever
is correct. Me, I still lend a fraction of an ear to this group in the
increasingly vain hope of learning something.
Personally, I don't use Plan9, or eve
And, on a related note:
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of-firefox/
On 31 August 2016 at 14:08, Winston Kodogo wrote:
> Yeah, but me, I prefer banging my head repeatedly against a brick wall
> while chewing broken glass to using this troff thing. In this cas
Yeah, but me, I prefer banging my head repeatedly against a brick wall
while chewing broken glass to using this troff thing. In this case, the
new-fangled stuff is just better, at least for normal people who just want
to get stuff done.
On 31 August 2016 at 12:51, Skip Tavakkolian
wrote:
> some
Hey Adriano
It seems as if the list is not totally moribund after all, even if these
days people will insist on talking about Plan9 on it, rather than posting
informative digressions about almost everything else. I hope you got at
least some of the responses which your original message sparked. Th
I personally have been technically dead for some time, but am still
receiving emails from the list, so the problem may be at your end. In which
case of course you won't see this. Bugger.
On 23 August 2016 at 12:00, Adriano Verardo wrote:
> Hi, all
> I don'receive from the group since June.
> I'v
Hey Chris
Cygwin is an option. Albeit one I wouldn’t use. The guys who did pf9 used
mingw. Which I also wouldn’t use. I like MS Visual Studio with access to the
native libraries on the platform of my choice - so colour me bigoted.
I was kind of wondering if there was an option for people who li
Alas, I can make absolutely no sense of anything from the cigarmeister.
But then again an inability to tell what's true at all could be an emerging
trajedy of these commons.
Or perhaps there is some creative merit in this.
Where is Boyd when you need him?
On 4 April 2016 at 23:37, hiro <23h...@
Were it not for the spelling mistakes, I would swear that the cigarmeister
was the Blessed Mark V Shaney in drag. Although, I'm fairly sure that even
on an off day Mark knew the difference between "less" and "fewer". "Less
than 1% of people
who qualify for Mensa" indeed.
On 3 April 2016 at 14:30
Well, that takes me back. I haven't seen a variant of that response in over
10 years. Although "Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business
with Yahoo" in the last one I saw is probably fair comment in the case of
what's left of the company formerly known as NZ Telecom.
On 31 March 201
That's an awfully long troll. Some people have a lot of time on their
hands. And it's not yet April Fool's day, even in New Zealand.
On 31 March 2016 at 12:40, wrote:
> Greetings, 9fans!
>
> We all know that Plan 9 started as a retrospective "re-take" on UNIX,
> occasionally referred to as "UNIX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwDOqsu0GZw
So, I'm working with ISO8583, a "standard" (HAHAHAH!) The "standard"
allows but does not require, BCD encoding of numerical data. Which may or
may not have a BCD-encoded numerical length prefix. The prefix may or may
not be 1 to 3 bytes in length. Or the data might come with no prefix, and
b
To be honest, I didn’t understand the “Grey Gardens” reference until I used
this new “Google” thing that Erik recommends. Were I not scared of being
called silly by Skip, I would recommend merging this exciting new potential
fork of Plan9 into the forthcoming "Great British Code Off" fork of Plan9,
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm trying to run pf9
version of acme on Windows 8.1. If I try to use mouse button 3, it always
barfs. Button 3 works fine in sam. Has anyone else had this problem and
found a solution?
Hmm. Didn't Tolstoy write a short story called "How Many Languages does a
Man Need"?
On 4 January 2015 at 21:59, Ori Bernstein wrote:
> Myrddin is a language that I put together for fun, but which has developed
> delusions of usefulness. It's a complete reinvention of the wheel, from the
> groun
operation completed
successfully." Obviously that's completely stupid.
On 24 October 2014 09:45, Winston Kodogo wrote:
> Now I'm even more confused than normal. "cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov:
> The operation completed successfully."
>
> This is a Windows e
Now I'm even more confused than normal. "cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov:
The operation completed successfully."
This is a Windows error message?
On 23 October 2014 09:04, Quintile wrote:
> I fear a gnu style recursive definition coming on...
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 19:14, Ski
, the owners of SpiderOak put out a toolkit called
>> Crypton https://crypton.io/ that lets you roll your own.
>>
>> Wes
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2014 11:08 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
>>
>> iCloud! Yes! Let's do that! It might even be secure on
i9factotum? It's a go!
On 14 October 2014 16:08, Skip Tavakkolian
wrote:
> iCloud! Yes! Let's do that! It might even be secure on Plan 9 :)
> On Oct 13, 2014 8:01 PM, "Winston Kodogo" wrote:
>
>> https://www.apple.com/nz/support/icloud/mail-notes/
>>
&
https://www.apple.com/nz/support/icloud/mail-notes/
Sorry, not a patch as such.
On 14 October 2014 15:51, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Quoting Winston Kodogo :
>
> Much as I love Plan9, only a masochist would use it for email.I agreed
>> with
>> Carmack as recently as 1997:
Much as I love Plan9, only a masochist would use it for email.I agreed with
Carmack as recently as 1997: "I spent a few months running Plan9. It has an
achingly elegent internal structure, but a user interface that has been
asleep for the past decade."
On 14 October 2014 12:55, Anthony Sorace wro
I'm not sure how kindly Boyd would have taken to being referred to as "the
younger brother of void". I suspect not well, although I'm not sure which
particular weapon he would have reached for in this instance:
http://www.petting-zoo.net/~deadbeef/archive/1023.html
On 18 September 2014 21:09, Stev
"FILE modified by boyd since last read" strikes me as more useful than most
error messages I see these days. My only question is what particular weapon
Boyd would have used to "modify" the file.
On 17 September 2014 23:18, Ingo Krabbe wrote:
> Hey,
>
> using legacy bell-labs plan9 (I don't know
"Sating it tongue in cheek"? I shudder to think what Boyd would have made
of that.
On 12 September 2014 02:43, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> Yes, of course :) I was sating it tongue in cheek.
> On Sep 11, 2014 8:24 AM, "Steven Stallion" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:53 AM, andrey mirtchov
Yeah, I'm mystified myself. Is this a troll or a serious enquiry? Trousers
rolled.
On 5 June 2014 15:10, OMAR RADWAN wrote:
> I've been looking at plan9 on the internet and to say the truth, I'm
> mystified. What is it exactly? Is it meant to totally be better than Unix
> or any Unix-like syste
I'm not sure if this is helpful at this, or indeed any, stage in the
conversation, but for me one of the great joys of using Richard's port has
been that it just works on real hardware without having to mess about, or
having to worry about esoterica about USB and chums. At least they're
esoterica t
Yeah. I don't disagree with Boyd's views on Sudoku, as filtered through
Brucee. Although, I feel that Boyd would have expressed them by saying
something like "When I hear the word Sudoku, I reach for my ." However, I have the solver code, thanks to Knuth.
The UI, thanks to Andrey. And the raspberry
OK, so my employer is lending out raspberry pis for "cool" demo projects to
be completed in a couple of weeks. I was thinking of doing a Sudoku solver
in Plan 9. I have written working C code for a command line solver using
Knuth's exact cover / dancing links algorithm. Advice sought on how to
prog
> > I wonder who could decide to adopt it on behalf of the community?
>
> As I understand it, this list is not a community, but an
anarcho-syndicalist commune.
In which case the executive officer for the week can decide to adopt the
new logo, but all decisions of that officer have to be ratified a
>> how much storage do 10,000 Maniacs take?
Eleven. Preferably not pronounced with a Scottish Accent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAz_UvnUeuU
I'm fairly sure that this is a misquote from Alfred, Lord Tennyson. In
my copy, the original reads:
"Trolling is a art" she told herselves
The Lady of Shallot.
I would have said "an art", but I'm no poet.
Good to know that you're still out there Dan. But I'm a bit puzzled by
your use of the term
"To go back to the original subject"
Surely this is the first time that has ever been done on 9fans?
This is 9fans, not 'Nam. There are rules.
I regret that you regret responding, and hope that you will relent.
It's always refreshing to hear from curmudgeons with quite a few more
clues than oneself. I'm not sure if I'm the public exactly, but I do
find mk and make too labour-intensive for my tastes. I'm now an IDE
kind of guy, having st
> AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO GIVES A S#$% ABOUT THE NAMESPACES?
Careful man, there's a beverage here.
>
> MY SOFTWARE MAKES PLAN NINE BETTER
>
> MY SOFTWARE FIXES HUGE NUMBERS OF PLAN NINE PROBLEMS
>
> MY SOFTWARE IS EXACTLY WHAT ROB PIKE AND CREW SHOULD HAVE MADE PLAN NINE DO
> ALREADY
>
Hey, that's just like your opinion, man. And p9p did tie the room together.
> ken has left the building
Yeah, but I'm fairly sure that rob made him do it.
> This is a technical mailing list, what do you expect?
These days, I expect exactly what I see here. Boring technical
fuckwittage, to which I've obviously contributed more than my fair
share, and nothing else. But there was a time when this group was a
nice place to hang out, when you could actu
Also, also, it was Gorka rather than Bakul who called me out for being
rude, so apologies to both.
But this is my favourite section from Herr Stroustrup's book - from
Section C.13.5 - although the following section (C.13.6 Template as a
Qualifier) is also good for a laugh. Right, I'll shut up and
> Been trying to read through this thread through the day and well I think
> the absurdity of your claim pretty much sums up a large portion of the
> thread, unfortunately. Ay Caramba indeed :(
>
Hey, I haven't really been following this thread either. I have a day
job, and was just channeling my
Ay, Curamba!
This discussion is exactly why we need Boyd.
But, let the record show, C++ has been scientifically shown to be an
unbelievably crap and monstrously complex language, even though I earn
my daily bread by using it. I was a contemporary of Dr Stroustrup when
he was spending his time dra
I'd vote for spelling it Xerox, on the possibly spurious grounds that
a Chinese colleague of mine pronounced it "ex-rocks" for some time. I
still prefer his pronunciation, and have adopted it myself. The
initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.
> Don't worry cuzz, he's a Bwit.
Sweet as, bro. Welease Wodger!
"It's not public?" read with rising intonation?
Charles? I'd never have picked you as as a Kiwi?? But your rising
intonation has given you away???
I know that the original request was for online reading about awk, but
I can't help adding my recommendation for the offline dead tree
version of "The awk Programming Language" by aw&k. I resisted buying
it for years, on the grounds of its extraordinary price on Amazon,
succumbed eventually, and ha
Speaking as someone who is too old and senile and stupid even to
become a High Court Judge, I find the lack of "improvements" to Tcl to
be a major attraction. I don’t need to program in it that often – I
maintain one moderately-sized script which hardly ever changes - but
when I need to re-visit i
Sorry to bother the list, but I thought I might get a sensible answer
here from the few remaining people in the world who actually
understand C.
The following bit of code seems to be more or less syntactically OK:
switch (nurdge)
{
int nigel = 1;
case 0:
if(nigel == 1)
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