In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Please can we have yes and no instead of numbers that have to be
looked up in a manual?
0 and 1 are universally Off and On. Check a modern radio, TV, video
recorder or other electronic device sometime.
Bernard Hill
Braeburn
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Please can we have yes and no instead of numbers that have to be
looked up in a manual?
0 and 1 are universally Off and On. Check a modern radio, TV, video
recorder or other electronic device sometime.
...but the problem was that 2 was also an allowed
Below I will outline the most recent changes that I incorporated
in the ABC draft standard, based on your input.
- Changed Accomp. Chords to Chord Symbols
- Added: programs should treat chord symbols quite liberately
Some player programs interpret these. They aren't generating symbols,
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:44:28AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote:
And it's a bit confusing to call these
accidentals when they are in fact systematic (I'm not sure what the
correct term is and don't have a reference handy to locate it, but
I'm sure there is one).
A version of abc2win incorporating very minor updates is available.
One of the changes concerns the sequence of notes in a chord. ABC2Win
now preserves the sequence in the notation and does its own sorting
to draw the chord. So the program no longer requires lowest first.
The preview
Muse will play them. (Muse is not alone in this, in fact I think there are
lots of programs that will).
Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Karl Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [abcusers] Chords
Very interesting
Henrik Norbeck writes:
Yes, but even if you set strangeness in AbcMus to 100% at least
one of the notes in the chord must also be in the beat or bar it is
set to, so for instance (in key of G) |GABG| could only have the
following chords (I think):
G major, E minor, C major, B minor, D major,
[ABCMus auto-harmonization] has a cute feature which is fun to play
with: it allows you to adjust a strangeness factor--the higher the
strangeness factor, the stranger the chords it sets. And they can
be pretty strange, indeed...
Yes, but even if you set strangeness in AbcMus to 100% at
John Burton wrote:
Mr. Headford: as a complete beginner and Anglo concertina player what would
be useful for me is adding chords to the melody line. Or perhaps just an
appropriate base line. The ABC format and archives around the web provides
me with many fine tunes many of which seem to beg for
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Phil Headford wrote:
I've written a program to strip out all guitar chords and
[ABC] chords, so I can work out whether one of the harmony
lines carries a detectable melody. For useful markings like
Finish on A music, the program merely ignores guitar
chords that begin
for accompanyment. That's
where I need the help.
Thanks for hearing my plea.
John Burton
Suisun City
- Original Message -
From: Phil Headford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: [abcusers] Chords
I can see the point of written chords
I can see the point of written chords for complete beginners,
but they clog the page up for me, and some ABCs out there are
unlistenable because a quart has been squeezed into a pint
pot. I don't know who dreams up some of the chord sequences;
they must have cloth ears - possibly they are
John Chambers wrote:
Yeah, but what I want to know is when the SvenskaLåtarProject
will get underway. Hey, Frank; whaddaya think?
(I do have copies of a few of the books. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't
be the right person to type in the text, just the tunes.)
Count me out. I'm Norwegian
Frank Norberg wrote:
Not yet. That is, there are individual tunes from
the O'Neill collection with chords all over the web,
but nobody has yet taken the job to add chords to
everything.
Thanks. I don't suppose there are any web indexes indicating which abc versions of
individual songs
Are there any abc archives out there which indicate what chords to play for tunes from
the O'Neill books?
- Matt
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Frank Nordberg writes:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| Are there any abc archives out there which indicate what chords to play for tunes
|from the O'Neill books?
|
...
| For the benefit of recent subscribers to abcusers, here's a short
| outline of the history of the O'Neill projects:
| A group
Joe Mc Cool wrote:
| John Chambers writes:
|
| I should point out that Dan Beimborn was the prime mover in this
| project I transcribed a few hundred tunes, and then took it off
| Dan's hands when he lost his original web space But Dan should get
| the credit for making it
At 02:23 PM 3/5/02, Frank Nordberg wrote:
For the benefit of recent subscribers to abcusers, here's a short
outline of the history of the O'Neill projects:
A group of people lead (eventually) by John Chambers made a joint effort
to transcribe O'Neill's Music of Ireland (O'Neill's 1850) While
Don wrote:
| Am I to gather from the above quote that there is a collection of ABC files
| for the O'Neill project(s) at John Chambers' site? If so, I can't seem
| to locate them as such Perhaps they have been disseminated into the
| overall/greater tune collection?
Thank you John It just didn't occur to me to go to the parent directory
of abc I see now a bit better how your site is organized
At 08:02 PM 3/5/02, John Chambers wrote:
Don wrote:
| Am I to gather from the above quote that there is a collection of ABC files
| for the O'Neill project(s) at
John Chambers wrote:
I've been seriously tempted to take what I have and try
to merge it with abcm2ps. That would probably be the most powerful
abc formatter around, at least for a few weeks.
Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone.
...
This is more
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:20:12 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote:
FN
FN Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone.
FN
In fact that would be perfect!
I would appreciate very much, if the abilities of abctab2ps and abcm2ps could be
merged.
Markus
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Markus On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:20:12 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote:
FN
FN Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone.
FN
Markus In fact that would be perfect!
Markus I would appreciate very much,
Phil Taylor writes:
|
| True. An additional problem is one which you yourself pointed out
| recently: users often write abc which is intended to be read only by
| human readers. In other words they are treating abc as a natural
| language. In this context any variation on abc syntax is OK as
Steve Mansfield wrote:
| Can I just sincerely apologise to everyone on the list
|
| (especially rjp, who will probably kill me at band practise tomorrow)
|
| for accidentally restarting the V: wars again?
No, we won't forgive you! It's about time that someone made this
mistake. Maybe we
John Chambers wrote:
Bryan Creer hath writ:
| I can see that we're going to end up having to write smart software
| which can figure out the right answer from anything which looks like abc.
|
| Or, alternatively, we can all work to the same standard and save ourselves a
| lot of trouble.
Fat
Phil Taylor said -
The standard is abc v1.6. There's also a proposed draft
standard which is still under discussion. Neither of them even
mentions multivoice abc. Does that mean that nobody is allowed
to post tunes which use the V: field to this group, which is
devoted to the discussion of the
Thanks to everyone who give some good advices for
displaying multible voices on one staff. The command
%%staves 1 (2 3) worked well with abcm2ps.
I thought I could be good to propose new features in
the abc format, for example, in the brackets for the
chords [], we could have symbolised
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Modern GUIs are very well designed, for people with three hands. The
real problem has been how slow customers have been to make necessary
hardware upgrades to meet the requirements of the software.
Quite ;-)
--
Richard Robinson
The whole plan
Phil Taylor said -
The tune will work with Muse and abcm2ps with a minimal
amount of editing (just insert a return after every V:n field).
Why should users have to do that? How are they going to know that's what
they have to do? They may not be on this list. They may never have heard of
Bryan Creer hath writ:
| I can see that we're going to end up having to write smart software
| which can figure out the right answer from anything which looks like abc.
|
| Or, alternatively, we can all work to the same standard and save ourselves a
| lot of trouble.
Fat chance. Even if we try
Phil Taylor wrote -
All extensions start out as program-specific.
Why? Why shouldn't they start out as proposals for discussion and feedback
from other developers and even users? That way the idea might be improved on
and clashes avoided and the resulting definition included in the standard
Bryan Creer wrote:
Phil Taylor wrote -
All extensions start out as program-specific.
Why? Why shouldn't they start out as proposals for discussion and feedback
from other developers and even users? That way the idea might be improved on
and clashes avoided and the resulting definition
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:05:40 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
PT
PT To be honest, I don't think there is really an abc-only solution
PT for this kind of thing.
Dear Phil,
look at
http://home.t-online.de/home/Markus_Lutz/Susato26.gif
Its made with abcm2ps without any further editing, after having
Markus Lutz wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:05:40 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
PT
PT To be honest, I don't think there is really an abc-only solution
PT for this kind of thing.
Dear Phil,
look at
http://home.t-online.de/home/Markus_Lutz/Susato26.gif
Its made with abcm2ps without any
Frank Nordberg wrote:
To sum it up, both BarFly and abcm2ps seem to handle this particular job
fairly well - slightly better than I had expected, but there are still a
few problems:
1. As far as I know both programs are single platform applications:
BarFly is Mac only, and from Jean-Francois'
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:04:29 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote:
PT Frank Nordberg wrote:
PT
PT 2. The two programs require different ABC extensions, so you'll have to
PT post two different versions of the file.
PT
PT Not necessarily. abcm2ps doesn't have the middle= directive, so the
PT tune has to be
Eric Forgeot wrote:
One example
X:21
T:Branle
R:Branle
C:Tielman Susato
Z:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:1/4=110
K:C
V:1
cde def | cde d3 :: ede cde | f2 e d3 :|]
V:2
%%MIDI transpose -12
[G2e2] [ce] [B2g2] [Af] | [A2e2][ce] [G3d3] ::
[C2c2] [Cc] [F2a2] [Eg] | [D2f2] [Cg] [B,3g3] :|]
V:3
On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:41:53 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote:
FN Hard to say. The problem of merging voices with different rhythms onto a
FN single staff is a rather complex one. Both BarFly and abcm2ps has
FN merge functions. BarFly's is far too simple for this particular
FN exmple, and I don't
Frank Nordberg wrote:
For those who isn't sure what this is about, I've uploaded a pdf with
something similar to what I think Eric is looking for at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/temp/de-madrigale-a1gtr.pdf
and a midi at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/temp/de-madrigale-a1gtr.mid
Here's the original
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