RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-06 Thread Karl Dallas
views of any organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or internationally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Freeman Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc i

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Karl Dallas" > You don't have to euphemise crap as cr**. The word's derived from the > name of the man who invented the modern WC, Thomas Crapper. Wrong. Go to http://www.snopes.com/business/names/crapper.htm Chambers Dictionary give [Middle English crappe (chaffe) from Middle Dutch krap

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-06 Thread Karl Dallas
Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages > > Using my new previewer with 3 programs it seems that both abcm2ps and > yaps understands the above (only yaps output looks like cr**) but abc2ps > chokes on the "U:M=!tenuto!&

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread John Chambers
Chris comments: | I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if | this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I do, | and it comes out quite nice IMHO: | | X:9 | T:McLeod's Reel | M:2/4 | L:1/16 | %%staves [1 2] | S: Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:55:45 -0500 Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just did the same, and IMO, it's the abc2ps version that looks like > cr**. The yaps version isn't as pretty as abcm2ps, but at least it > handles all the notation properly. Sure, we're saying the same thing, I g

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Christopher Myers
> > Using my new previewer with 3 programs it seems that both abcm2ps and > yaps understands the above (only yaps output looks like cr**) but abc2ps > chokes on the "U:M=!tenuto!"... > I just did the same, and IMO, it's the abc2ps version that looks like cr**. The yaps version isn't as pretty a

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:14:18 -0500 (EST) Jeff Bigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the subject of abcm2ps, can anyone here tell me how to make it > output two voices onto separate staves? abc2ps does this with the > following command: > > %%staves [(1 2)] > > but even after reading the source

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:08:49 -0500 Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure > if this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I > do, and it comes out quite nice IMHO: > > X:9 > T:McLeod's Reel > M:2/

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Christopher Myers
Christopher Myers wrote: > > I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if > this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). OK, I take that back. abc2midi handles this quite well. What I was remembering was that previously I had Parts labelled in the abc (to in

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-05 Thread Christopher Myers
I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I do, and it comes out quite nice IMHO: X:9 T:McLeod's Reel M:2/4 L:1/16 %%staves [1 2] U:M=!tenuto! K:G V:1 |:BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|A2{B}AG

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-04 Thread Jeff Bigler
> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:20:54 -0500 > From: Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I prefer abcm2ps, as it allows me more control of the output (IMHO). On the subject of abcm2ps, can anyone here tell me how to make it output two voices onto separate staves? abc2ps does this with the followi

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread Manuel Reiter
> I've kept the URLs for some of them, commented out, in my > search bot's list of starting places. Here's my list of > URLs that used to return ABC but don't any more. I've > removed a few that have moved and been found again, but for > most of these, they just went away. > > # http

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread John Chambers
Ray Davies wrote: | John Chambers wrote | | > But then, some abc sites have disappeared. In a few cases, | > I do wish I'd nabbed a copy first. | | Do you remember the sites or the filenames? Maybe someone has them sitting | on their harddrive. I've kept the URLs for some of them, commented out,

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread Ray Davies
John Chambers wrote > But then, some abc sites have disappeared. In a few cases, > I do wish I'd nabbed a copy first. Do you remember the sites or the filenames? Maybe someone has them sitting on their harddrive. Ray To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread Christopher Myers
John, I have a suggestion for an enhancement to your tune-finder. (Posted to the group to possibly influence you in your decision by getting folks on the bandwagon) How about a textbox in which I can enter my own abc, and click a button or link that will generate the output I want? I just found

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Tom Keays" > Has anyone ever put together a HOWTO for serving abc, midi, gif, png, and > pdf from a server? I know of the various abc projects from sourceforge and > elsewhere. I've checked out bits of it casually but haven't really figured > out how you get past abc2ps (ie, I see how to

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-03 Thread Karl Dallas
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Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread John Chambers
Tom Keays asks: | Has anyone ever put together a HOWTO for serving abc, midi, gif, png, and | pdf from a server? I know of the various abc projects from sourceforge and | elsewhere. I've checked out bits of it casually but haven't really figured | out how you get past abc2ps (ie, I see how to get

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson writes: | On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:47:18PM +, John Chambers wrote: | > | > The main problem with making such a suggestion is that most | > of the suggestions I've gotten for enhancements have been | > based on the assumption that I have all the abc sitting on | > the disk.

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread Tom Keays
Has anyone ever put together a HOWTO for serving abc, midi, gif, png, and pdf from a server? I know of the various abc projects from sourceforge and elsewhere. I've checked out bits of it casually but haven't really figured out how you get past abc2ps (ie, I see how to get from abc to postscript,

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:47:18PM +, John Chambers wrote: > > > The main problem with making such a suggestion is that most > of the suggestions I've gotten for enhancements have been > based on the assumption that I have all the abc sitting on > the disk. This isn't true. My Tune Finder

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin writes: | | What would be a nice compromise would be if the TuneFinder could | send a transcriber-converted version if one existed, and generate | a new one if not. Could you add some sort of protocol for people | to indicate they have such pre-converted files available? (My own | nam

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-02 Thread Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
Karl Dallas wrote: > > No I'm a Human Shield volunteer. God bless you and keep you. Karl Dallas wrote: > > So if I understand what you're saying about option 1: I display the abc > code (of a file called tune.abc) as text but if the user clicks on it, > instead of hearing proper abc, what they

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-01 Thread Gerry McCartney
Excellent!! Hopefully music will neutralise the sounds of war. Gerry McCartney Somewhere in war-scarred Belfast - Richard Robinson wrote: Are you a war correspondent these days Karl? Doesn't seem like a good time to be covering the Iraqi music scene.

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-01 Thread Richard Robinson
[rearranged somewhat] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phil Taylor > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:07:15PM -, Karl Dallas wrote: > >> Are you a war correspondent these days Karl? Doesn't seem like a good >> time to be covering the Iraqi music scene. > > No I'm a Human Shield volunteer.

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-02-01 Thread Henrik Norbeck
John Chambers wrote: > 1. Have several files on your server, for the ABC and its translation > to the other formats (PS, GIF, MIDI, whatever). This is fast, but > takes a LOT of disk space. ABC is small; all the other formats are > hundreds or thousands of times bigger. Not quite true... M

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Jack Campin
>> Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on >> loading, or when a link is clicked? > There are really just three approaches to doing what Karl wants: > 1. Have several files on your server, for the ABC and its translation > to the other formats (PS, GIF, MIDI, whateve

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "John Chambers" > 1. Have several files on your server, for the ABC and its translation > to the other formats (PS, GIF, MIDI, whatever). This is fast, but > takes a LOT of disk space. ABC is small; all the other formats are > hundreds or thousands of times bigger. > > 2. Have just t

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Karl Dallas
he views of any organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or internationally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Chambers Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc in w

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:08:17PM +, John Chambers wrote: > > OTOH, if you have the disk space, approach 1 is ideal. You convert > the ABC once, and then it's just downloads. No CGI scripts to fuss > with, no CPU usage other than the server's read/write time. And when > there are pro

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Karl Dallas
: [abcusers] abc in web pages Karl Dallas wrote: > > I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies. > Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on > loading, or when a link is clicked? > If so, can anyone point me to where I can fin

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread John Chambers
Karl writes: | I know I should (even more) know this but it's a few years since I gave | up writing for Internet mags: how exactly do I get my ISP to associate | text/vnd.abc with abc? Or does each browser have to execute it? If it's a version of the apache server, there's a config file called

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread John Chambers
Chris commented: | Karl Dallas wrote: | > Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on | > loading, or when a link is clicked? | > If so, can anyone point me to where I can find out how to do this? Does | > the reader need to have some kind of a plug-in? If so, where can

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Karl Dallas
f any organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or internationally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phil Taylor Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages Karl D

RE: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Karl Dallas
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Freeman Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages From: "Karl Dallas" > I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies. > Is there any way

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Christopher Myers
Karl Dallas wrote: > > I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies. > Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on > loading, or when a link is clicked? > If so, can anyone point me to where I can find out how to do this? Does > the reader need

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Phil Taylor
Karl Dallas wrote: >I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies. >Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on >loading, or when a link is clicked? As Jon said, there is no plugin for .abc, but if the mime type is set correctly the user can se

Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages

2003-01-31 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Karl Dallas" > I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies. > Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on > loading, or when a link is clicked? > If so, can anyone point me to where I can find out how to do this? Does > the reader need