Re: [AFMUG] Intriguing

Interesting. But I couldn’t find it on ebay as mentioned in the description. Wonder what it costs? Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 9:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intrig

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I didn't have to read the email headers to know who this e-mail was from, "My CFD buddy thought it was great because the governor was shipping in all kinds of fresh tang and every bird loves a fireman." - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Br

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Of course it tells you the degrees and angle to the tower? Well we report it! [cid:image002.png@01D6C951.F641CE10] [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security Engine

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

We had that in our towercoverage.com android app, however we have let that app go as the mobile version does 99% of it, and yes it was nice, but our feedback was give me the bearing and tilt and we can find it. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engi

Re: [AFMUG] Intriguing

If you believe the comments (hah!) it is one of two old prototypes and no you can’t climb it. From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 6:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intriguing Interesting. But I couldn’t find it on ebay as

Re: [AFMUG] OT... starting December right

Jamie sure does like to stay informed of the weather. On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:00 PM James Howard wrote: > Are you saying this is the lady bigfoot? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:18 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Dennis,  Simple Formula for bearing.. I would not think tilt is necessary but plausible. We used that app for a while and liked it. I have the formula I used to help cambium automate the Azimuth for the cbrs template spreadsheet.  if u would like to have a copy i can send it. There are also sa

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

They screwed us on our optitap premade as well. See if you can find a DLX field install kit for ~$10. We got field install optitap for $10 and will splice SC/APC on the other end (in which case you'd splice LC-UPC). For the record drop cables with LC is pretty weird and UPC is really really weir

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Are you 900/2.4? I didn't realize Florida had elevation, I'm surprised you use any elevation at all, I'd probably avoid my techs using the number calculated for fear they'd just wing it by what the phone says instead of aligning by RSSI. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

I had to refile about 200 towers with the FAA and FCC for Sprint back in the 90's. As far as I know, there is no requirement for towers with white strobes to change to red at night. They can if they want to, but there is no regulation requiring it. That being said, I agree it is difficult to see mu

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Not being a fiber guy, I didn’t know the difference between PC, UPC and APC, so I had to look it up: https://community.fs.com/blog/pc-vs-upc-vs-apc-connector-selecting-the-right-fiber-connector-type.html From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:25 AM To: Anima

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Wispmon had an app for installers that did this... big arrow on the screen that pointed to the tower you wanted and gave you distance and bearing from your phone. VISP may soon have this capability ;) On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:27 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Are you 900/2.4? I didn't realize Florida

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

Maybe it’s an FAA recommendation not a regulation. I can also say we’re a tenant on a commercial tower that must have had a problem with the photocell because for several months it was stuck in white strobe mode. We had several neighbors call us to complain about it as a nuisance, and we ha

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Don't know what PC is. LC is the teeny thing that goes in an SFP. UPC is uniform blue APC is angled green Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:41 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not being a fiber guy, I didn’

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

The FS blog post seems to say PC was first and UPC was an improved version. Sounds like PC-UPC-APC is good-better-best, at least for return loss. Are you saying to use APC instead of UPC? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

im suspecting people with rifles is whats causing the wind turbine blades around here to break off. rural customers are a different type On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:53 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Maybe it’s an FAA recommendation not a regulation. > > > > I can also say we’re a tenant on a commercial tow

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Why would you say that UPC is really really weird? We use it quite exclusively as a fiber standard, except some GPON units are APC so we use adapters there. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:25 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > They screwed us on our optitap premade as well. See if you can find a DLX > field ins

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Ken, with many WISPs getting into fiber, are you looking to do that in your area, or does that not match the area / your corporate goals? On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:41 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not being a fiber guy, I didn’t know the difference between PC, UPC and > APC, so I had to look it up: > >

[AFMUG] Trickbot gets UEFI capability

Could be used to write persistent malware to boot firmware, or to brick device. https://eclypsium.com/2020/12/03/trickbot-now-offers-trickboot-persist-brick -profit/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

The second one. From: AF On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ? Ken, with many WISPs getting into fiber, are you looking to do that in your area, or does that not match the a

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

APC is entirely used for GPON outdoor applications (like doing drops from an MST). Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:04 AM Colin Stanners wrote: > Why would you say that UPC is really really weird? W

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

APC is better for return loss, but from what I see no commonly used fiber systems care that much about return loss (only old analog-over-fiber systems?) I had standardized our company on SC/UPC since the connector worked everywhere - patch panels (not too tight like the tiny LC), SFPs (we use BiDi

Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

We already have it in TowerCoverage. It’s a function of the EUS. It tells you exactly what bearing to aim and tlit. Example: Alignment from Client: Align via 14.00° with 3.00° tilt assuming 6m client antenna height [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Ro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

There’s a reason Bell System specs for outdoor equipment had a requirement to withstand a blast from a 12 gauge shotgun at 50 feet. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle L

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

thats oddly specific On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:35 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > There’s a reason Bell System specs for outdoor equipment had a requirement > to withstand a blast from a 12 gauge shotgun at 50 feet. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 1

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

What I was told by Plume was the agreement that they have with NCTC allows members to have a $2K/month minimum. The Plume direct minimum apparently ranges between $30K and $50K/month. So definitely worth becoming a NCTC member if you go this route. The WISP pricing for Calix DME is still better,

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

and what is the subscription rate for an individual consumer? Looking at their web site, it implies that a consumer could rent their own system. Has anyone looked into that (I avoided going down that rabbit hole b/c I'm not interested in their spam)? bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

It was part of a long list of tests that vendors had to actually perform before they could sell them equipment. Temperature, humidity, vibration, earthquake, etc. I seem to remember there was a UPS test where the packaged equipment had to survive a drop from 6 feet on each side and corner.

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

How do you become a NCTC member if you don’t do cable? > On Dec 3, 2020, at 09:43, Jason McKemie > wrote: > >  > What I was told by Plume was the agreement that they have with NCTC allows > members to have a $2K/month minimum. The Plume direct minimum apparently > ranges between $30K and $

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

ken is just gonna sell to us On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:10 AM Colin Stanners wrote: > Ken, with many WISPs getting into fiber, are you looking to do that in > your area, or does that not match the area / your corporate goals? > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:41 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Not being a

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Can I just sell specific customers to you? How much would I have to pay you to take them? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 11:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ? ken is just gonna sell to us On

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

We standardized on SC/APC (SCA) for everything we can. Mostly because it is the defacto standard for GPON so it is really easy to get. The only caveat is for optics which are mostly UPC so we have SCA - SCU 4.8mm outdoor drop cables built for us for running from our fiber plant to rooftop radios

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

I'm not sure I would want any of your customers. They all seem dumber and cheaper than mine. BTW: I directed someone from near Serena towards you this morning. You're kinda there. I know someone else that's kinda there (MediaNet WiFi). I'm not sure who else would be there. NewarkNet seems too

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

Jason, That's nuts. Email John Booth (His first name @plume.com) and tell him Port Networks referred you. Admittedly we were one of their first small ISPs so there may be more structure now but the numbers you are quoting are in a different ballpark. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:43 AM Jason McKemie

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

The Plume Cloud management runs millions of circles around Calix… Plumes HW is very cost effective. We are paying ~$75 for the Superpod model. Another benefit is that the could platform has an Open management protocol (OpenSync) and other vendors have and are developing hw for it. IIRC eve Qua

[AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

https://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/arecibo/ Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/968060a2-d5a8-4a76-b3b3-cee8c588e646.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

WOW - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 11:31:43 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

Today I'm annoyed, and a bit worried, because one of our further towers needs UPS batteries replaced... this puts things in perspective. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:42 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > WOW > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

Kind of lucky they had a drone going when it happened. or maybe they were anticipating when it was going to happen? bp On 12/3/2020 9:31 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailm

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

IIRC they were inspecting the cables on a daily basis From: AF Date: Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 1:50 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video Kind of lucky they had a drone going when it happened. or maybe they were anticipating when it was going to happen? bp

Re: [AFMUG] Managed Router Pricing

Thanks. I'm already committed to Calix at this point anyhow. I guess Plume could have been giving me a "F-U" price. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > Jason, That's nuts. Email John Booth (His first name @plume.com) and > tell him Port Networks referred you. Admittedly we

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

That all seems like a total waste. We are great at building lots of things. Not so great at maintaining them. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:51 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > IIRC they were inspecting the cables on a daily basis > > > > *From: *AF > *Date: *Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 1:50 PM > *To

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

F that, I dont like customers On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 11:22 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Can I just sell specific customers to you? How much would I have to pay > you to take them? > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 11:09 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

My pet peeve is people who replace standard headlight bulbs with LED bulbs but leave the standard reflectors. It really should be treated like the reckless endangerment it is and result in jail time. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:53 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > It was part of a long list of tests that ve

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

Another video, the one from usf.gov don’t work for me ☹ guess they don’t like me . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3AASKr_iHc [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Sec

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

Could always go commando like this guy. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/us/washington-flashlights-car-trnd/index.html bp On 12/3/2020 10:42 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: My pet peeve is people who replace standard headlight bulbs

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

But to have it go right when the drone was imaging the very tower... Yeah, that's such and amazing coincidence.. On 12/03/2020 09:51 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: IIRC they were inspecting the cables on a daily basis *From: *AF *Date: *Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 1:50 PM *To: *af@af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

My pet peeve is those flashing bicycle LED headlights that are pointed in your face and brighter than a car. You can’t even see the road or tell they are a bicycle until you flash your high beams and get past them. From: AF on behalf of Carl Peterson Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Emergency Vehicle LEDs

They do make LED bulbs that replicate the size and position of a halogen filament. I guess they cost a bit more, but they do provide a much whiter light output than halogen (which are a bit on the yellow side). They can also provide a sharper cut-off for the light

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Green always equals angled. APC Angled polished connector. Makes the reflected photons not make it back into the core. Like a directional couple for RF. APC=Angled Polished Connector or perhaps it is “Angle”. That sounds more correct. APC=Green I have heard SC is Subscriber Connection

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

Great stuff for budding mechanical engineers. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 12:04 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video But to have it go right when the drone was imaging the very tower... Yeah, that's such and amazing coinc

[AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing

I'm trying to track down a strange Issue I'm having, and wondering if anyone has run into something similar. I have a couple customers that I let take phone handsets home, the Grandstream PBX is at our office. It seems that if the SIP traffic comes in one upstream, but leaves another upstream

Re: [AFMUG] Arecibo Collapse Video

On 12/3/20 9:51 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: IIRC they were inspecting the cables on a daily basis I always though the cables draped over the pylons like suspension bridge style, but nope, it was separate cables terminating between platform-pylon and pylon-ground. I wonder if it would have b

[AFMUG] 5.9GHz STA

Does anyone have an example of an attachment for the STA application for 5.9 ITS? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing

I thought re-invites were used to get the media stream to flow directly between the endpoints and bypass the PBX. And if you took out the asymmetric routing, the other symptoms would make me think it's a NAT traversal or SIP ALG problem in the customer's router. But with the dependency on how the

Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing

I used to think SIP was OK. I even helped GenBand (or whatever the Northern Telecom manufacturer was called after they were Northern Telecom ) fix their SIP stack. Took a ton of wire sharking and deep packet inspection but they had a fault. But I have forgotten everything I ever knew about S

Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing

There is such a tool. There is a lower capability free version and a paid version. VoIPMonitor Tough to say what might be going on. On the face it seems like the re invite doesn't know where to go as there is no NAT table connection entry from that port to the interna

Re: [AFMUG] Offnet SIP and Multi-homing

I don't think it's a NAT problem, as the only thing I change is my upstream routing. The Handset is connected via WIFI to my 4g hotspot it goes from not working to working just by changing the BGP Announcement. It's like one of the internet paths is dropping the traffic as rogue traffic becau

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 From: "Chuck McCown via AF" > Not sure why UPCs are used at all since APC seems to be technologically > superior.  Slight cost differential. APC used to have a slightly higher insertion loss. Preference to have same connectors everywhere. Jared -- AF mail