Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

An orbital shark vacuum would solve everything, those things are beasts On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 8:29 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Orbital sharks that shoot lasers from their eyes. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 25, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Robert wrote: > >  Way below geo orbit, and creating

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Yes it was, but BOTH objects were moving in that case. Right space debris anywhere near the Clarke belt is a nasty thing to have to deal with and can render some of the parking spots useless. Yes a good James Bond or Austin Powers story line for sure. But if done as a Tom Clancy story

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Orbital sharks that shoot lasers from their eyes. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Robert wrote: > >  Way below geo orbit, and creating debris in geo orbit would be all those > operators up there idea of a disaster nightmare. I imagine a great James > Bond plot story

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Way below geo orbit, and creating debris in geo orbit would be all those operators up there idea of a disaster nightmare.   I imagine a great James Bond plot story would be Spectre putting something up there and threatening to ruin that orbit for a ransom. On 2/25/21 5:50 PM, Brian Webster

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

And you don't get a  spot without a plan for removing it at EOL, there are a set of higher dead satellite orbits with a lot of birds as trash, less fuel than a de-orbit plan. On 2/25/21 4:27 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: And where's the tow truck if you just take a spot? On Thursday, February 25,

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

I will suggest it to them On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 6:55 PM Brian Webster wrote: > Over this past summer I was able to keep sea gulls from roosting on the > canopy of my boat by just hanging a few of these on the boat and radio > antenna. Not sure if it works on all birds but the gulls did not like

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

Over this past summer I was able to keep sea gulls from roosting on the canopy of my boat by just hanging a few of these on the boat and radio antenna. Not sure if it works on all birds but the gulls did not like it. They picked on other people’s boats instead who didn’t have something like it.

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Well the US Navy proved they can enforce the parking rules back in 2008. To quote Sheldon Cooper, “You’re in my spot” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fuv72VM9q8 Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

PETA would get you like they did for the coconut harvesting monkeys, Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2021, at 5:59 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > >  > Now, that is what I call a brilliant idea! > >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 6:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: >> maybe find a geneticists with loose morals

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

Now, that is what I call a brilliant idea! On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 6:50 PM Steve Jones wrote: > maybe find a geneticists with loose morals to cross a cat with a monkey. > you could rent your tower cat monkeys out like they do for beehives. > > that pic though looks like they did crummy job of

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

maybe find a geneticists with loose morals to cross a cat with a monkey. you could rent your tower cat monkeys out like they do for beehives. that pic though looks like they did crummy job of netting, it all inside and doesnt inhibit any of the nesting points. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:22 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

maybe they wrap your bird with tin foil like a space boot On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:28 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > And where's the tow truck if you just take a spot? > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> So if a nation is not recognized

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

And where's the tow truck if you just take a spot? On Thursday, February 25, 2021, Steve Jones wrote: > So if a nation is not recognized by the UN then they have free parking? > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 5:52 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >> ITU controls the slots:

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

So if a nation is not recognized by the UN then they have free parking? On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 5:52 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > ITU controls the slots: > https://alexsli.com/thespacebar/2017/7/the-international-telecommunications-union-orbital-satellite-parking-enforcement > > Mark > > On Feb 25,

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

I have heard those on strip mall signs... On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 4:14 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > I've seen farmers use a battery-powered box that emits a loud chirping > sound which imitates a number of bird-like sounds to keep birds out of > their orchards. It was very effective. Birds are like

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

ITU controls the slots: https://alexsli.com/thespacebar/2017/7/the-international-telecommunications-union-orbital-satellite-parking-enforcement Mark > On Feb 25, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Who controls the parking spots? And what if you just decide to put one there? > I'd like

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

I've seen farmers use a battery-powered box that emits a loud chirping sound which imitates a number of bird-like sounds to keep birds out of their orchards.  It was very effective.  Birds are like people, they need to talk and don't like interruptions, they just leave.  One I saw used a

Re: [AFMUG] Question for the Borg

How close can you put those pipe cleaner looking lightning rods? On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 4:19 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Some guvt agencies looking for bird netting solution for their camera > towers...birds nest and crap on them. > They tried the spinning shining contraption... does not scare

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I'll continue to disallow and block FB and sovrin can continue doing their thing without me.  I wish them a lot of luck On 2/25/21 1:43 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Ahh, and like everything else if you dont allow, you dont get access On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 3:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF

[AFMUG] Question for the Borg

Some guvt agencies looking for bird netting solution for their camera towers...birds nest and crap on them. They tried the spinning shining contraption... does not scare them away... Ideas? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

we use skyhooks from roofing supply house to hold our balloons in place. theyre really designed for use when youre on the peak putting the ridge cap and theres nothing above you to hook your lanyard to On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:50 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > How

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Ahh, and like everything else if you dont allow, you dont get access On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 3:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > You and your block chain and ID are in control of who gets what. It turns > it around. If you go to login somewhere, that somewhere asks you if it can > have access.

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

You and your block chain and ID are in control of who gets what. It turns it around. If you go to login somewhere, that somewhere asks you if it can have access. It turns it totally around. You decide who gets what info. Essentially everyone logs into you instead of the other way around.

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

The only way I can think of that could work without messing other stuff up, is a narrow beam, straight up.  You'd need to modify the the communication standard for what the cable-TV uses for their CMTS-modems that Hughes and Wild Blue copied.  I think it's an open-standard.  But then there is

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

"Sovereign was a real word before crazies used it" And pepe the frog and the Gladsden flag weren't racist. The swastika was a native american symbol. Hard to take the piss out out of the pool. You can tell me that it was nice refreshing water before everyone pissed in it but I'd still advise

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

And what happens to your data and ID when sovrin gets hacked?  Is sovrin going to insure your account and pay you for your loss? Clean-up any identity fraud?  So far, all I see is a larger hack-target! On 2/25/21 9:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

How did you keep the balloons in place? On 2/25/21 3:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We worked on a project where they used untethered balloons with radio transmitter for an oil field project.  They used it while towers were erected for licensed 900MHz links... company was out of Phoenix area.

[AFMUG] openfire multi access messenger client

So we run an openfire server for staff messaging. We used to use a spark client, but we ran into issues with multiple logins between staff PCs and cellphones. Spark would only update on whichever machine was last used So if I went from my desktop to my laptop the messages weent on the laptop.

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I cant find it now but one of my favorite videos was this judge who had tired of their nonsense and decided to study up on it and went through under their "laws" and ultimately showed the guy he was still guilty of whatever it was. I want the bank account they say th feds open under each of our

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

maybe theyre right and we are the crazies, you ever think of that huh? On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:29 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Sovereign was a real word before crazies used it > On 2/25/2021 1:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > will this make u sovereign citizen? Do we get access to our identity bank

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

As Adam points out, your satellite isn't just going to float there. It needs a lot of speed. That speed would have it moving "past" you really really fast until you got to about 26k miles up where it would remain still relative to you. If you wanted it to float at 90k' you would need a balloon

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

I know a guy I could ask. On 2/25/2021 1:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote: can you get hot pockets on jail commissaries? On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:08 PM Adam Moffett > wrote: wellAiming at thousand foot tower from close range customers we are definitely

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

I believe that only applies to 5150 - 5250. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hopkins" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 12:02:13 PM

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Sovereign was a real word before crazies used it On 2/25/2021 1:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: will this make u sovereign citizen? Do we get access to our identity bank account? does it mean we are no longer driving, we are travelling and road laws no longer apply? does this make the president come

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

will this make u sovereign citizen? Do we get access to our identity bank account? does it mean we are no longer driving, we are travelling and road laws no longer apply? does this make the president come in on the 4th? they really should use a term other than sovereign On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

can you get hot pockets on jail commissaries? On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:08 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > wellAiming at thousand foot tower from close range customers we are > definitely sometimes more than 3 degrees up. Put me in jail I guess. > > > On 2/25/2021 1:02 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

wellAiming at thousand foot tower from close range customers we are definitely sometimes more than 3 degrees up.  Put me in jail I guess. On 2/25/2021 1:02 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: If I recall correctly it is illegal to aim a 5GHz radio > 3° above the horizon. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at

Re: [AFMUG] 80ghz reliability in Rain

Yeah, I think it would work... assuming they're still using the same/similar dishes. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:54 AM Nate Burke wrote: > Are the front of the dishes flat so we can put the WBMFG clamp and scope > on it? That makes aligning AF24 links so easy, we don't even bother to > pull up

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Well then. On 2/25/21 1:02 PM, Matt Hopkins wrote: If I recall correctly it is illegal to aim a 5GHz radio > 3° above the horizon. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:43 AM Matt Hoppes > wrote: So here me out.      I've been to low earth orbit

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

If I recall correctly it is illegal to aim a 5GHz radio > 3° above the horizon. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:43 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > So here me out. I've been to low earth orbit (90,000 feet) with > equipment I can get in my basement/hardware store.

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

Agreed... there's got to be a way to do this though. On 2/25/21 12:57 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: This may be a pedantic difference, but it's an important one: You haven't been to low earth orbit unless you accelerated to 17,000mph or so.  You might have visited the edge of orbital altitude at

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

https://www.windley.com/archives/2018/09/multi-source_and_self-sovereign_identity.shtml From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/

Re: [AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

This may be a pedantic difference, but it's an important one: You haven't been to low earth orbit unless you accelerated to 17,000mph or so.  You might have visited the edge of orbital altitude at some point, but you weren't "in orbit" unless you also achieved the required Delta-V. Geosync is

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

If widely adopted this https://sovrin.org/ can solve everything. I know the founder. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 10:25 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business that is

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

2FA doesn't have to contain personal information... On Thursday, February 25, 2021, Jan-GAMs wrote: > I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business > that is involved with selling your personal data is moronic. They have no > excusable reason even knowing your real

[AFMUG] Your Own Satellite Internet

So here me out. I've been to low earth orbit (90,000 feet) with equipment I can get in my basement/hardware store. I've beamed signals back from 90,000 feet to a radio in my truck. I'm familiar with how AmSats work (although have not sent one up myself). What is preventing a WISP from

Re: [AFMUG] 80ghz reliability in Rain

The corner of the radio has a little slot for sliding the little plastic scope that comes with it into (for 1' antennas). To be honest I haven't even used that in years. Just peak to the signal. I don't know what the WB clamp/scope setup looks like but the radio is flat and the clamp might be

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I don't have anything against 2fa, I just think giving it to a business that is involved with selling your personal data is moronic.  They have no excusable reason even knowing your real name, why you giving them info directly traceable to specifically you? On 2/25/21 6:57 AM, Matt Hoppes

Re: [AFMUG] 80ghz reliability in Rain

Are the front of the dishes flat so we can put the WBMFG clamp and scope on it?  That makes aligning AF24 links so easy, we don't even bother to pull up the DBM reading while installing.  The Trango24ghz dishes had an angled front on them, so it wouldn't work with them. On 2/25/2021 10:08 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] 80ghz reliability in Rain

Yeah, the MTI dishes that Siklu uses (at least the ones that I've seen are MTI), have much nicer adjustments than the Bridgewave/Radiowaves dishes. Anything at 80ghz is a pain to aim, but it helps if one adjustment doesn't throw another one way off everytime you touch it. On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Yes, my phone is a single point of failure. No, I don't normally have a problem not receiving text messages. I don't normally have a problem with anything, but that doesn't mean I couple my entire life to a single object. Authenticator apps would be more useful if they synced between

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Your phone is a single point of failure? Do you generally not receive text messages? > On Feb 25, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > Single point of failure. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > >

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Single point of failure. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:57:49 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

Why do you guys hate to factor authentication I turn it on everywhere I can. Is it really that hard to get a text message and enter a six or eight digit number to know that your account is secure. Especially with the ability of most websites to remember the device you’re logging in from it’s

Re: [AFMUG] Oh Matt Larsen

What about the chicken coop AP? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:10 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > I remember Matt making his own > >

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I do hate 2fa as well, I had an issue with a credit card payment to my cell carrier last week, so my service was shut off. So I go to log into my credit card portal, guess where the auth text got sent. But the cumbersome nature of it did force me to rethink my refusal to put alternate forms of

Re: [AFMUG] 80ghz reliability in Rain

Atmospheric absorption peaks in 24GHz & 60GHz. 80GHz is typically much less affected 60GHz. See attached chart for reference. On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 5:44 PM Nate Burke wrote: > One of our distributors is trying to push us into an 80ghz link for a > 1.7 mile hop. Siklu says that 2' dishes on

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

I only use 2FA when required. It's a pain in the butt. I do use a password manager with randomly generated passwords. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To:

Re: [AFMUG] FB account deleted

FB as any form of identity should be illegal, totally banned and 2fa should never even be considered for a social media entertainment account.  Ditto for google.  I sure as hell don't want them knowing diddly squat about me, they have no right to know anything and they have no right to