Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-24 Thread Mike Hammett
s Group" Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:40:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 This is what I tried to tell WISPA when they were pushing for spectrum to go to auction (EBS included) but no one listened. They kept saying you'll get credits that will help Some h

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-24 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Williamson > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 9:17 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 > > Thanks. I am looking at the spreadsheet now. What is "B

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread David Williamson
Also, what is "Proposed CMA Bidding" column? Thanks, David Williamson -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Williamson Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 9:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC A

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread David Williamson
Thanks. I am looking at the spreadsheet now. What is "Bidding Units"? David Williamson -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 9:08 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/20 5:51 PM, David Williamson wrote: How do we bid on spectrum for this? I am interested in doing this for the region we are in. https://www.fcc.gov/auction/105 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread David Williamson
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Mark Radabaugh
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> On Feb 23, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > But I'm a bit fuzzy on PALs and grants from the SAS that could cross a > county line. I'm pretty sure you can't do it if you don't have a PAL in both > counties, and I'm not sure you can do it even then. > As I understand it the PAL cr

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 Random thoughts.. I always wondered about the difference in wispa membership price vs the size of your wisp. You have a number of smaller wisps paying $325 with under 500 subs and those over 10k subs paying 10 times as much a year. Hard to balance needs of

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Mitch Koep
ebsite: http://www.linktechs.net Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 Which eliminates some very large percen

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/23/20 9:53 AM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: Our county opening bid is 44k, so assuming you need two clean 20 MHz channels it would be $176k for that, assuming no one else bids it. You would have to put down 88k to start to bid on it. Assuming we get small business and rural credits that

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
nimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Dennis Burgess Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 Our county opening bid is 44k, so assuming you need two clean 20 MHz channels it would be $176k for that, assuming no one else bids it. You would have to put down 88k to start to bid on it. Assum

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-23 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
et Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small ma

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
leasing them out to small companies would be profitable. It would probably piss off the big cellcos though which would be nice. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 I still

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Steve Jones
I still think its going to venture capitalists looking for long term recoveries On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:30 PM Dev wrote: > Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets > who would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a > bank, assuming t

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Dev
Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets who would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a bank, assuming their bank knows what spectrum is at all. So their option would be to hope no one bids? > On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Seth Matt

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/21/20 10:33 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: How does a bidding credit work? What percent does is save? It's applied to a winning bid (not upfront) so during the bidding process your $1 is the same as AT&T's $1. The rules for auction 105 aren't out yet but it should be like before there with a

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/21/20 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote: look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we are eligible for Which are applied to a winning bid, you still have to wire the FCC the full amount at the beginning to participate. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http:/

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Jon Langeler
How does a bidding credit work? What percent does is save? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we > are eligible for > >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM d

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread Steve Jones
look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits we are eligible for On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM dave wrote: > +1 TY WISPA :) > > > On 2/20/20 6:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Correct - the CMA bidding portion was rejected based on WISPA advocacy. > > Mark > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-21 Thread dave
+1 TY WISPA :) On 2/20/20 6:10 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Correct - the CMA bidding portion was rejected based on WISPA advocacy. Mark On Feb 20, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/20/20 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: What is "Proposed CMA Bidding"? Cellular market area, it woul

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Correct - the CMA bidding portion was rejected based on WISPA advocacy. Mark > On Feb 20, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 2/20/20 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> What is "Proposed CMA Bidding"? > > > Cellular market area, it would have allowed a bidder to change the license

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/20/20 11:35 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: What is "Proposed CMA Bidding"? Cellular market area, it would have allowed a bidder to change the license size from county up to CMA (and block all of those pesky single-county bidders), but I don't think that proposal made the final cut. -- AF ma

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Jason McKemie
What is "Proposed CMA Bidding"? On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:56 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > I was looking at the cost of bidding on a couple 3.5Ghz PALs for my > region… Looks like I need almost $700k to even try to play based on the > minimum opening bid. > > > > State/ > Territory > > County

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/20/20 10:55 AM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: I was looking at the cost of bidding on a couple 3.5Ghz PALs for my region… Looks like I need almost $700k to even try to play based on the minimum opening bid. And that's only for one 10MHz channel, which IMO is not sufficient for what most cons

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/20/20 10:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Where did you find that chart? https://www.fcc.gov/auction/105 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Sean Heskett
That’s per 10mhz block so if you want all 40mhz available to one entity you’ll need to times by 4. That is the Bay Area tho so you’ve got the pop density to fund it if you do a large buildout. This is a good example of why WISPA was advocating for census tracts instead of whole counties. I’d hat

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread TJ Trout
ditto, would like to see our counties opening bid On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:58 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Where did you find that chart? > On 2/20/2020 1:55 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > > I was looking at the cost of bidding on a couple 3.5Ghz PALs for my > region… Looks like I need almost $70

Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Adam Moffett
Where did you find that chart? On 2/20/2020 1:55 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: I was looking at the cost of bidding on a couple 3.5Ghz PALs for my region… Looks like I need almost $700k to even try to play based on the minimum opening bid. State/ Territory County FIPS

[AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

2020-02-20 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
I was looking at the cost of bidding on a couple 3.5Ghz PALs for my region. Looks like I need almost $700k to even try to play based on the minimum opening bid. State/ Territory County FIPS Code Proposed CMA Bidding CMA * Population (2010) Subject to Small Market Cap Per Block Bid