Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2019-11-21 Thread Steve Jones
yeah. > > $10k doesn’t buy me enough functionality. > Would need 10 of those. > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:54 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MPLS > > Why? Price? > > On Wed,

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2019-11-21 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
enough functionality. >>> Would need 10 of those. >>> >>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On >>> Behalf Of Josh Baird >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:54 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> <mai

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2019-11-21 Thread Adam Moffett
ailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Why? Price? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote: No thanks. *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>*On Behalf Of*Gino A. Villarini *Sent:*Wednesday, November 20, 201

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2019-11-21 Thread Gino A. Villarini
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 8:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS No thanks. From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2019-11-21 Thread Gino A. Villarini
And theres ebay.. From: AF on behalf of Cassidy Larson Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 1:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS I’m able to get 10 Cisco ASR920s for under 10k from Cisco. Just depends on who your

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2019-11-20 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
h functionality. > Would need 10 of those. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:54 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS > > Why? Price? > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson <

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2019-11-20 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Uh, yeah. $10k doesn’t buy me enough functionality. Would need 10 of those. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Why? Price? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson mailto:sterl

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2019-11-20 Thread Josh Baird
Why? Price? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson wrote: > No thanks. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:12 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MPLS > > >

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2019-11-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
to grow up, but to the size of a big telco. From: AF On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS No thanks. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarin

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2019-11-20 Thread Sterling Jacobson
No thanks. From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Time to grow up… Juniper ACX or Cisco ASR920 From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson mailto

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2019-11-20 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Both in our case… or mptmp WAN. Wholesale last mile too From: AF on behalf of CBB Fuller Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 6:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS L2 connections. Like cellphone towers back to

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2019-11-20 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Time to grow up… Juniper ACX or Cisco ASR920 From: AF on behalf of Sterling Jacobson Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I

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2019-11-20 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So do you tunnel everything back to the core and then do "router on a stick" ? On 11/20/2019 2:14 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Yeap VPLS is where is at… VPLS tunnels to the towers, CORE routing + L2VPN to cus

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2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
wisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Adam Moffett" *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:03:05 PM *S

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2019-11-20 Thread Mike Hammett
mmett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:03:05 PM Subject: [AFMUG] MPLS I think I don't fully understand what the ad

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2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
ent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:22 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So bridging the VPLS interfaces was the bottleneck? On 11/20/2019 3:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I think I introduced some possible bottleneck

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2019-11-20 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I think so. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So bridging the VPLS interfaces was the bottleneck? On 11/20/2019 3:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
Group *Cc:* Dennis Burgess *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MPLS You can, its up to you. *Is routing faster on MikroTik by using MPLS/VPLS?* No *Do you gain extra capacity by reducing the router load per packet by using MPLS? * Yes, think looking at 4-bytes of data vs 40.  Is it 10 fold increase, no

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2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
ies, Inc*-- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Adam Moffett *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:17 PM *To:* af@af.afm

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2019-11-20 Thread Sterling Jacobson
/VRRP/VLAN on one device across multiple interfaces, lol! From: AF On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Dennis Burgess Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS You can, its up to you. Is routing faster on MikroTik by using MPLS

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2019-11-20 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:17 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So do you tunnel everything back to the core and then do "router on a stick&q

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2019-11-20 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Nop different routers.. at least on our case… other might do ROAS From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:17 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So do you tunnel everything back to th

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
4 Guaynabo, PR 00968 *From: *AF on behalf of Josh Baird *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Date: *Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:09 PM *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] MPLS It seems like lots of people in the WISP-world are running MPLS just to

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2019-11-20 Thread Gino A. Villarini
be.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Josh Baird Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2019-11-20 Thread Josh Baird
It seems like lots of people in the WISP-world are running MPLS just to use VPLS. Reasons for doing this are typically to achieve better IPv4 utilization (not having to route a block of IP's to each POP and maybe wasting IPv4, etc). Another common use-case is providing L2VPN services for customer

[AFMUG] MPLS

2019-11-20 Thread Adam Moffett
I think I don't fully understand what the advantages are of MPLS. I mean I've been reading the white-papers and such, and I see it brings some features to the table, but when are we going to use them? Routing speed: * MPLS can make forwarding decisions faster.  When they made this in the