Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Jones
Probably the worst cause is that the people in charge of creating and appropriating for funding actually think the internet is a series of tubes and pipes On another note regarding what the internet is, I'm trying to bring my kid in as an intern/apprentice (slave labor I can hit) so I have him

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
Final comment before I shut up: The idiots I'm thinking of in all cases DID bring service to people who previously didn't have service.  So it's not as though the program was entirely useless. I'm not aware of a circumstance where the operator didn't put in a a real effort to reach the

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I should clarify that while real people provided inspiration for this statement I'm not actually referring to any specific person..  I'm just expressing that I believe there are people who will do this. On 3/5/2021 1:15 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I promise you this idiot is a real person and

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I promise you this idiot is a real person and is already writing his next application for funding. On 3/5/2021 1:11 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Well, no, if somebody is saying he can do 100 down AND UP with CBRS LTE, he's just plain lying (or an idiot), even if it is only 1 cpe... and it's in

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, no, if somebody is saying he can do 100 down AND UP with CBRS LTE, he's just plain lying (or an idiot), even if it is only 1 cpe... and it's in the same room as the eNB. On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I've seen physical audits to confirm that when we submitted for >

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Jones
i think we have different degrees of grift. that 100mbps operator is grift to me. the idiot operator/regulator is grift to me. the senator thing, thats just good business practice On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 11:51 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I've seen physical audits to confirm that when we submitted

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
I've seen physical audits to confirm that when we submitted for reimbursement for 100 base stations that we actually deployed 100 base stations.  There are financial audits of course, and they'll harp on any perceived irregularity until they're satisfied. Sometimes the physical auditor wants

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Jones
I see traffic counters set up on random rural roads for no good reason (probably is a good reason) all over. There isnt any reason to not have official testing nodes (I thought there were) to verify. Wireless coverage can be propagated, and should be more than a circle on a map. I didnt like it

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
A lot of them already work that way.  In NY you don't get a grant until you've built something and then you get reimbursed for it. CAF gives you monthly distributions and does not cover any up front capital at all.  I haven't seen every program, but the ones I have seen all required you to

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Steve Jones
this is why i wish they would go to recovery awards. you get your money AFTER you serve the area and verify. A whole lot less grift when playing with your own money. Ill get shot here, but I think no funding for anything other than a hardline solution like fiber should be available anywhere within

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Adam Moffett
There's too much emphasis on Mbps, but my guess is the political decision makers observe that cable and fiber companies selling 100M+ generate fewer complaints from constituents than wireless operators offering 25Mbps. I'm not going to name any names, but I've seen a few grant funded

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Robert" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:40:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan Even though it would put us out of biz, fiber is the need of the future. Every thing else is stop gap, for fixed

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Robert
Even though it would put us out of biz, fiber is the need of the future.  Every thing else is stop gap, for fixed locations. On 3/5/21 7:20 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: You would think that since they bothered coming up with excuses why the current standard isn't good enough, they could at least

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Nate Burke
I'm trying to figure out who was lobbying for this. Comcast in our area is advertising 1-1.5gb/s download, but upload speed is only 30mb. Unless Comcast is looking for Billions of dollars to forklift upgrade to FTTH. Or are they hoping that DOCSIS4 will fix that. On 3/5/2021 9:20 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-05 Thread Mathew Howard
You would think that since they bothered coming up with excuses why the current standard isn't good enough, they could at least come up with a number based on their imagined need, instead of just coming up with a random number with no basis in anything other than "100/100 sounds good". It's not

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Jones
As long as they're tossing arbitrary numbers for need out there without any fact based justification I think we should get carte blanche to do as we please to make it happen. No need for ROW, we will take the O out of OTARD and give it a big fat RE. Dont want us running cable through your

Re: [AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-04 Thread Ryan Ray
Just create another CBRS database and let's get a huge swath of spectrum dedicated to PTMP without huge fees for rural areas. Lots of places where we could service 700-800 people if only more spectrum was available and it wouldn't impact anyone else in that band. If it does? Shut it off. Spectrum

[AFMUG] So it begins agan

2021-03-04 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/4/22312065/fcc-highspeed-broadband-service-ajit-pai-bennet-angus-king-rob-portman Meth and kickbacks. They need to just free up 500mhz-120ghz for just WISP use. Then each wisp can have a ton of spectrum to get that porn to every device -- AF mailing list