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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
Are we talking about 2 different rules? Yeah, we're supposed to ground cables
going from outside to in.
Also the outdoor cable is only supposed to go so many feet into the building
and then transition to an indoor cable. Here it&#
er than 20 feet then there is a
conflict. Secondary ground rods are a no no here.
*From:* James Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:01 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
We’ve been told the code applies to tv antenna wire as
If its just an EPMP radio and 400' the Tik GPER will work fine. Yes more
likely to to go dead in a thunderstorm though.
On 9/1/2021 12:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender,
irritating
he finally has caved now and will be putting a network
Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
I have always been told all grounds have to go to the building common point
ground. So if that was farther than 20 feet then there i
*Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:01 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
We’ve been told the code applies to tv antenna wire as well. Anything
that “pierces the envelope” by coming from the outside to the inside.
*From:* AF *On
Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
We’ve been told the code applies to tv antenna wire as well. Anything that
“pierces the envelope” by coming from the outside to the inside.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Micro
: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
Does that include low voltage?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:18 PM, James Howard
mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
Is it a Wisconsin thing that you have a to have any wire that penetrates the
building “envelope” grounded within 20 feet of penetrat
y, if he can put a network rack at the midpoint, how much
> of this is inside buildings?
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:26 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
>
> thats
wherever they want along the
> rest of the run.
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:45 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
>
> all but the exterior cable run of maybe 12 feet. t
they want along the rest
of the run.
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
all but the exterior cable run of maybe 12 feet. theyre extending their
building out and putting
Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender,
irritating
he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the
midpoint and is going to place a managed
inside buildings?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:26 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
>
>
>
> thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extend
Just out of curiosity, if he can put a network rack at the midpoint, how much
of this is inside buildings?
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
thats what i suggested trying
the WISPA offender registry...
On 9/1/21 11:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Might get me on some kind of offender registry.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:19 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
+1
Use SS or blow ports up during
Might get me on some kind of offender registry.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:19 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
+1
Use SS or blow ports up during thunderstorms. Those are the only two options.
Chuck should open a trenchcoat to
all
> ethernet runs just sayin’
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
>
> thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender,
> irritatin
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender,
irritating
he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the
midpoint and is going to place a managed switch there instead of all
this other unsupportable cobbling. Sometimes
: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender, irritating
he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the midpoint and
is going to place a
thats what i suggested trying first, customer wanted the extender,
irritating
he finally has caved now and will be putting a network rack in the midpoint
and is going to place a managed switch there instead of all this other
unsupportable cobbling. Sometimes we get a win.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1
Maybe a dumb question, but has it already been tried without the extender?
400ft is beyond 100m, but not by all that much. It might just work
without any faffing around.
On 9/1/2021 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
I have a customer fixed on using
https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/GPeRqg_190928
e one down, with 10 volts drop, then another 10 volts for the return
>> wire. You gotta calculate full loop length not just one way for the loop
>> resistance.
>>
>> 800’ loop has 20 volts of overall drop at .5 amp. But 4 of them in
>> parallel has 10 ohms with 5
21 9:16 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
>
> I have a customer fixed on using
> https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/GPeRqg_190928.pdf to extend his epmp
> f300 radio run to 400+ feet.
> if im calculating this right there will be about
. But 4 of them in parallel
has 10 ohms with 5 volts drop.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 9:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] resistivity of cat5
I have a customer fixed on using
https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/GPeRqg_190928.pdf to extend his
Put 48V into it and it should take care of regulating the voltage at the far
end (if the spec sheet is to be believed.
The bigger issue is likely to be that it goes *kaboom* with every nearby
lightning strike.Run fiber.
Mark
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I have a
That isn't right... you aren't using a pair of 24 gauge, not a single wire,
so it's effectively 21 gauge, but that's still saying a 5v drop at 400, but
a Force 300 is also going to be closer to .25 amp load during normal
operation, so you're looking at more like a 2.5v drop, assuming the
resistivit
I have a customer fixed on using
https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/GPeRqg_190928.pdf to extend his epmp f300
radio run to 400+ feet.
if im calculating this right there will be about a 10v drop on the
24guage cat5, taking the 30v down to 20. If it does manage to keep the
radio powered i see it burni
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