Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-23 Thread Justin Wilson (Lists)
who’s stuck on Juniper or Cisco and doesn’t want to do the other. > > Call me crazy if you want. > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:51 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Cc: Peter Kranz > Sub

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-23 Thread dmmoffett
: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 1:51 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Peter Kranz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Juniper has an entirely different programming style that Cisco.. most network folks like one or the other, I would n

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-22 Thread Jason McKemie
I don't have either on my network right now, but I am certainly more familiar with Cisco (although it has been a few years). On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:52 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > Juniper has an entirely different programming style that Cisco.. most > network folks like one or the other, I

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-22 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
22, 2024 11:51 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Peter Kranz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Juniper has an entirely different programming style that Cisco.. most network folks like one or the other, I would not suggest mixing them in your network. Peter Kranz www.Unwi

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-22 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Juniper has an entirely different programming style that Cisco.. most network folks like one or the other, I would not suggest mixing them in your network. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-15 Thread fiberrun
Since the datasheets on these things are terrible, can you tell me how many routes each box can take?     Jared     Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 11:35 PM From: "Jesse DuPont" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Another opt

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-13 Thread dmmoffett
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Mx204 only has 4x100g and 8x10g, but if using all 100g ports you loose the 10g I believe. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 8:44 AM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote: Thanks, I’ll have to keep it in mind. That price

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-12 Thread TJ Trout
s. > > > > I still like Mikrotik. I miss the simplicity. There’s zero chance we’ll > ever use them here though. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jesse DuPont > *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2024 4:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwav

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-12 Thread Jason McKemie
F *On Behalf > Of *Daniel Pautz via AF > *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Daniel Pautz > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > Is it really considered a router or just high end switch? Eg does i

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-12 Thread dmmoffett
with the big fancy chassis. I still like Mikrotik. I miss the simplicity. There’s zero chance we’ll ever use them here though. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 4:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Jesse DuPont
Pautz via AF Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Daniel Pautz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper   Is it really considered a router or just

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Josh Luthman
idered playing > with some Arista’s. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Zach Underwood > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > While not juniper and with no support we have

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread dmmoffett
products. CLI almost identical to Cisco, so it’s old hat. I have no complaints with Arista. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Daniel Pautz via AF Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Daniel Pautz Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper Is it

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Zach Underwood
model? I have always considered playing > with some Arista’s. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Zach Underwood > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > While not jun

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Christopher Tyler
If you don't get it from a Juniper Authorized reseller or it hasn't been re-certified by Juniper and you ever want to update the software or need support from Juniper, they will make you get it re-certified by Juniper which costs about as much as just purchasing a new unit to start with. And on

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper While not juniper and with no support we have done very well with used Arista. We got 12x 100gb +24 x40gb router that can do bgp for under 10k eaxh. On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:54 PM Jason McKemie mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote: Is this worth looking

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread Bill Prince
Hang in there. Rumor is that Juniper may soon be a subsidiary of HPE. They're always known as teh bargain brand. bp On 1/10/2024 6:53 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget. -- AF mai

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Juniper has caught the "subscription required to use on an ongoing basis" disease all big routing/switching companies seem to eventually catch. Plus HP is trying to acquire them. The current used gear is probably usable but there seems to be some debate how long this will last as far as any futur

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Colin Stanners
I had read (here?) that at one time any paying Juniper support account holder had access to all product firmware files, so some companies would buy the cheapest Juniper product - like a switch under $1000 - and its cheap support contract, from a standard Juniper supplier, so they could get firmware

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Dev
They basically last forever, more or less, and you can plop the old config into a shelf spare in case you brick your other box, pretty hard to beat. Online forum support is pretty good, and you can get any number of contractors to help you get unstuck if you can get your routing to behave. > On

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Zach Underwood
While not juniper and with no support we have done very well with used Arista. We got 12x 100gb +24 x40gb router that can do bgp for under 10k eaxh. On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:54 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a su