Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Erich Kaiser
I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right here in the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually when the additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even lower, but that is just my thought. It would be nice if they could do the same

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
I want higher grain prices. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:18:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices I

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Jason McKemie
From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of OPEC. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right here in the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Daniel White
I heard that :-) Seriously I hope everyone sticks around. We got some new things to announce (or at least soft launch - I think Mobile World Congress will get the spotlight with the press releases, etc.) and some cool things to talk about. I'm sure I am going to talk about a lot more than I

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread par...@cyberbroadband.net
Yeah. Me too. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction Date: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 8:37 PM And no offense to SAF, but I'm leaving after lunch

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I'm sure it will all be well attended. SAF and Mimosa have cool products! Some of which I'm not allowed to look at until April :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Vlad Sedov
you're welcome.. vlad On 1/13/2015 10:35 AM, That One Guy wrote: I thank vlad but when this rebounds, its going to hurt, not hey doc it burns a little when i pee hurt, real hurt On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote: It's

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
Cool, will have to take a look. On January 13, 2015 7:57:09 AM AKST, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Web management was released Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe? I don't typically worry about any of that firewall nonsense. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:21:10 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Caleb Knauer
The UAP phone home and establish the connection. No poking needed. All encrypted. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
We don't do much inside a customer's network. Almost zero in fact. We leave customer internal network stuff to people that do that for a living. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 9:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: UniFi communicates out (the devices) to establish an SSL tunnel for

[AFMUG] Epmp Link Quality vs Link Capacity?

2015-01-13 Thread Gino Villarini
Got 98% Link Quality and 40% Link Capacity, what this translates to? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Users can still join the network. Traffic still passes. The AP still does its job. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:46:45 AM

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
Anything special about the controller? Windows, MacOS, Linux? Will the controller run on a Mikrotik? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 9:17 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's don't have a web page. You put the controller

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac. No, it won't run on Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:20:22 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder how long before we start seeing stickers identifying those things that still work when “the cloud” is down. Maybe an emergency kit of “cloud free” tools for after the apocalypse. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi

Re: [AFMUG] [BULK] Re: WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
My garage door still works, I just can’t open it. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant The APs still work fine when the cloud is down. You just lose management and I'd assume stats. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Caleb Knauer
The system is down...the system is down...the system is down UAP still works when it loses access to the controller unless you're using the controller for doing the guest portal authentication/hotspot. We use 'tik and friends for all that functionality so if the controller drops it doesn't shut

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
The investment has already been made to build the wells. I know it would suck, but why not shut them down until the price goes up again, then just resume production? Even under new ownership? Doesn't sound like a permanent problem to me... - Original Message - From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
UniFi communicates out (the devices) to establish an SSL tunnel for communication. No holes would need to be poked on the client site. This product has been out for like three years and is dirt cheap, how have you guys not used it? :) On January 13, 2015 8:21:11 AM AKST, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Baird
Several different ways. DNS is one. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Controller-Installation/UniFi-Layer-3-methods-for-UAP-adoption-and-management/ta-p/455643 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud,

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
The units reach out to the hostname of unifi on boot and attempt to provision. Or via dhcp option 43. Then you adopt them to the site in the controller (say Billy Bob's Banjos and Burgers), and assign wireless profiles to the devices. On January 13, 2015 8:26:10 AM AKST, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Adam Moffett
Well butter my biscuits. There is a manual :) On January 13, 2015 8:57:44 AM AKST, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around a knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one document that describes the

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
If u use unifi I have a tower not far from this restaurant and may put a PC there Or put one on site and do remote desktop to my office On Jan 13, 2015 11:18 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The individual AP's don't have a web

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
Sounds like you have to poke a hole in whatever firewalls are in between? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Use one controller on a VM somewhere for all of your managed UniFi devices. That's worked since the beginning. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
So if your controller is running on a VM in the cloud, and the unify box(es) is/are behind NAT, how does the controller reach through the NAT? Or do the unify box(es) reach out? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 9:21 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Windows and Linux. Not sure about Mac.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
The APs still work fine when the cloud is down. You just lose management and I'd assume stats. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] BCP38

2015-01-13 Thread David
:) On 01/12/2015 12:25 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Remember when back in the early days, folks could announce “all your internets are mine” and take down everything. *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 11:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread David
Has anyone played with CAPSMAN on the mikrotiks yet? Going to training in February for it. On 01/13/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Maybe? I don't typically worry about any of that firewall nonsense. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Baird
Why wouldn't you just host the controller in your datacenter (or cloud) and then charge for a managed service? No reason to have an on-premise controller. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: You need a unifi controller to manage the system. The

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
There is a manual :) On January 13, 2015 8:57:44 AM AKST, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Hey UBNT: Instead of scattering all the useful information around a knowledge base and a forum, why not unify it all into one document that describes the product and how to use it. You could call

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread That One Guy
I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of operating, etc. But I look at it as right now being a great time to get in on it, when the rubber band snaps, you would already be at peak production capacity, without the export and shipping to get it to its destination, in North America at least.

[AFMUG] FCC Changes the way device certification is done

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
http://community.ubnt.com/ubnt/attachments/ubnt/Business_Talk/42403/1/FCC-14-208A1.pdf -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread TJ Trout
I'm in! but I can only do it after AF on the 4th, I'm arriving late 3rd and leaving late 5th On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: I wouldn't mind taking a group of AF people down to my city Saratoga Springs south of Animal Farm and showing my fiber

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Count me in. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:17 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction I wouldn't mind taking a group of AF people down to my city Saratoga Springs south of Animal Farm and showing my fiber

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Gabriel Pike
We have done this with both unifi AP’s and CAPsMAN. Both have worked well in my opinion. With the Mikrotiks CAPsMAN the advantage is no need for a controller. Everything is done on the CAPsMAN controller router. We used a 750UP to power the mAP’s and it works fine. Only problem is people who

Re: [AFMUG] Af5

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck Macenski
Hi, I can only really speak for airFiber, but, I think this is a general rule. As an FYI, there is much more information on this topic (including color charts, etc) on the Tx Power Thread under airFiber on the Ubiquiti web site. I am not pushing the site per-se, just that this thread appears to

[AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I wouldn't mind taking a group of AF people down to my city Saratoga Springs south of Animal Farm and showing my fiber network. We would need to pick a day/time for it. I can show the cabinet/switch deployment side as I do things and give an overview of the networking etc. at my office. It

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Bryan
That would be amazing. Count me in as well. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: I wouldn't mind taking a group of AF people down to my city Saratoga Springs south of Animal Farm and showing my fiber network. We would need to pick a day/time for it.

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Caleb Knauer
Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of gloom and doom

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Aaabsolutely Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction Date: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 8:36 PM Ok, looks like I might be doing a panel on this

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Ok, looks like I might be doing a panel on this too, maybe Friday. Maybe I can do a panel or a speech thing on it, then get whoever wants to come take an actual look at it as well. That way those that can't go will have some material and those that can will get a better actual look at it and

Re: [AFMUG] my first epmp - Questions

2015-01-13 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Josh, Doesn't epmp have sync built in? Also, can't find any real pricing on the unit, how much is it? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life

Re: [AFMUG] my first epmp - Questions

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Luthman
It has a GPS puck but I keep hearing you want a single source for a site. I think the WB poe card thing is 80 bucks? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 7:52 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Josh,

Re: [AFMUG] my first epmp - Questions

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Just one ap? That would be a great solution. I think the AP specs are 20 to 56 volts? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 8:30 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Josh, This is a micro pop under the

Re: [AFMUG] my first epmp - Questions

2015-01-13 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Josh, This is a micro pop under the canopy of trees, so i'm not trying to sync with remote site. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Sterling Jacobson
And no offense to SAF, but I'm leaving after lunch regardless :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction Ok, looks like I might be

Re: [AFMUG] my first epmp - Questions

2015-01-13 Thread Jay Weekley
Will my 18 volt battery power an ePMP sm for field surveys and installs? Josh Luthman wrote: That's an expensive solution and won't have sync but it should work. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 7:05 PM, Mark -

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Deployment/Construction

2015-01-13 Thread Jeremy
I'd love to check it out. I don't want to do it during the show's schedule though. I live close enough that I could take your tour anytime you are willing. ;) On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me too Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless

[AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
Doing WiFi for a restaurantwhat would be good for deploying WiFi Ubnt unifi, meraki or something else?

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Super WISP
Hit me offline Joseph to discuss. We have low end and higher end solutions. Thanks, Mark Chamerlik WAV®, Inc Strategic Account Manager East Coast 630-818-1004 Direct 630-818-4452 Fax 800-678-2419 X 1004 Toll Free ma...@wavonline.commailto:ma...@wavonline.com (OR URGENT NEEDS TO

Re: [AFMUG] Af5

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Noodling around with Chucks info: Noise floor = –80 Sensitivity = –82 -80 – (-82) = 2 dB RX signal required –80 + 2 = –78 dBm Noise floor = –40 Sensitivity = –82 -40 – (-82) =42 dB -40 + 42 = +2dBm (Not sure I want to stand in front of the transmitter) Some simple algebra: Required RX signal

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Rory Conaway
Xirrus. More granular packet control. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant Meraki Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [AFMUG] List issue

2015-01-13 Thread Paul McCall
Josh ! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue Your... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 12, 2015 8:52 PM, Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Af5

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck Macenski
Hi, I should learn to sleep at night and email during the day. The tl;dr should have read: Sensitivity for a Modulation Rate at a given bandwidth (from the spec sheet) minus the clean noise floor for that bandwidth (see below) equals the signal needed over the actual noise floor for a given

Re: [AFMUG] Leasing vs Bank Loan

2015-01-13 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, First, you should know there are 3 different types of leases: $1 buyout, 10% buyout and Fair Market Value buyout. The only one that you can use to deduct the entire payment as an expense each month is the Fair Market Value buyout. Both of the others, you still have to depreciate all the

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Vlad Sedov
$1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy. vlad On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have stations at $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :) Travis

[AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Travis Johnson
I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have stations at $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :) Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Af5

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown
So is there something similar to the Friis formula you can lay on us that takes thermal and interference into account and gives minimum RX levels needed? From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af5 The clean noise floor number is the

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
1.75 here in my area On Jan 13, 2015 9:35 AM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: $1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy. vlad On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have stations at $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :) Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Leasing vs Bank Loan

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Now there is a gold nugget to archive. From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Leasing vs Bank Loan Hi, First, you should know there are 3 different types of leases: $1 buyout, 10% buyout and Fair Market Value buyout. The only one

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- Over the Top TV

2015-01-13 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.ispradio.com/ http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGWednesday we will have Nathan Stook from WISPerISP talking about Over the Top TV. Wednesday 11am CST Don't forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player and listen while in your car

Re: [AFMUG] Af5

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck Macenski
The clean noise floor number is the thermal noise floor... On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, I should learn to sleep at night and email during the day. The tl;dr should have read: Sensitivity for a Modulation Rate at a given bandwidth (from the

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Gino Villarini
He¹s alive! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 1/13/15, 11:32 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have stations at $1.71/gallon in our area right now. :) Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
Only the bad stuff. We give all the good stuff to Mitch McConnell. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 7:54 AM, Jeremy wrote: Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??) On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
As recently seen on Facebook, If you feel like purchasing Meraki, swing a bat at your genitals and try again. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Small oversupply. Lot’s of new supply coming on the market. A big incentive for OPEC to drive the price down in order to shut down the fracking wells that cost more than $50 to operate. Geopolitics also plays into it - it gives a big headache to Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Syria, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Cameron Crum
Here's an interesting article on it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/bartiromo/2015/01/11/bartiromo-saudi-prince-alwaleed-oil-100-barrel/21484911/ On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I wonder what is really driving the price down. Fracking,

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Was just speaking regarding the platform as a whole. Depends on how large the restaurant is. I've been to a few that'd need more than one AP. ;-) If you need more than one AP and you have mobile\nomadic users, fast handoff is a nice feature to have. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Jerry Richardson
If there is a better value than unifi I don't know what it is. Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Daniel White
The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the coffee shop type price. Installing one in our new office... will have my hands on it on Friday. Only need a single AP... and of course it will be lightly loaded (mostly for cell

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Darin Steffl
We also ordered a few Xclaim AP's and they seem to be performing really well and at a great price as well. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with the

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all the marginal producers. Initially it will be Russia and some of the other marginals like Iraq Iran. Pretty sure the shale oil and tar sands guys are hurting big time right now. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few others. Jaime Solorza On Jan 13, 2015 7:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Xirrus. More granular packet control. Rory *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
Gino, What do like (and dislike?) about Meraki, and which others have you tried? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 6:47 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Meraki Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: joseph marsh

Re: [AFMUG] Leasing vs Bank Loan

2015-01-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
I find equipment leases are like marriages for some people. You start out all optimistic about the future, with this shiny new equipment to play with. But 3 years later it feels so good to make the last payment and get your freedom back. Then in a year or two, you do it all over again.

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Jeremy
Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??) On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Same up here in Ohio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, joseph

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software? On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Wyndam in Midland uses UniFi AC and it worked well. The local reservation casino is implementing it as well after testing Cisco and few others. Jaime Solorza On Jan 13, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Mathew Howard
It finally just made it under $2 here... $1.97. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Same up here in Ohio. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, joseph marsh

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Gino Villarini
Mostly like the units, great feature sets all managed by cloud. If you manage multiple networks, you can do it all from a centralized dashboard. You can make changes to a single AP o to the whole network on a fly. Lots of billing/authentication options. Firewall and QOS also a plus with

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Bill Prince
Well... They are part of Cisco; which might be spelled Ci$co. ;-) bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/13/2015 7:59 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Mostly like the units, great feature sets all managed by cloud. If you manage multiple networks, you can do it all from a centralized dashboard. You

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Cameron Crum
Unifi is not hard to set up at all. I put about 20 of them in my kid's school and it works great. VLAN'd 3 separate networks, one for teachers, one for students, and one for guests. I don't use the payments stuff of course and access is still controlled by a CCR behind it all, but it has not even

Re: [AFMUG] Who needs 4-wheel drive work truck

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
Nice On Jan 10, 2015 1:44 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: The rancher who leased us space on his land for our tower used this Ford Model A to lead our Jeep to the top of the Hill where our tower now

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread Chuck McCown
I wonder what is really driving the price down. Fracking, OPEC diaspora, CAFE improvements, Russia problems ??? From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices Thanks Obama! (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??) On Tue, Jan 13, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Leasing vs Bank Loan

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm pretty sure that's been said identically in the past. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 13, 2015 10:43 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Now there is a gold nugget to archive. *From:* Travis Johnson t...@ida.net

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Cameron Crum
I wonder how much hand off is happening at all in a restaurant? On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Not really? All of the ones I setup I don't recall there being any issues... even with the original software releases. That said, the fast handoff isn't as

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting 2.4 ePMP with dishes

2015-01-13 Thread Jay Weekley
Do you use those? Adam Moffett wrote: Jay, Find a distributor who sells supplies for Dish Network installs. Ask about masts for the 1000.4 dish. They have one that's the normal size you're used to but made with heavier gauge steel. They also have one with struts like you're talking about.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
So log into the management server, change a few settings and move on? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:18:47 AM

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Baird
But you don't have to have a controller on site. You also can use one controller for many instances. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: The problem I have with Unifi is there really isn't a stand alone feature that doesn't require a controller that

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Gino Villarini
I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set… problem with reatail locations like restaurants is that you need control of the users… how much time they can browse, when the AP will be available (avoiding night leeches), login mechanisms, value added marketing for the host restaurant (like

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting 2.4 ePMP with dishes

2015-01-13 Thread Adam Moffett
My previous employer bought the Dish Network mounts, yes. The Dish 1000.4 mounts are a little more expensive, but if you want something more rugged, that's the way to go. Mounts for the Dish 500 are similar to what's included with the KP dish. Do you use those? Adam Moffett wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

2015-01-13 Thread That One Guy
I thank vlad but when this rebounds, its going to hurt, not hey doc it burns a little when i pee hurt, real hurt On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all the marginal producers. Initially it will be Russia and some

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Caleb Knauer
The only thing I can think of where rapid handoff would be needed in a restaurant is for mobile POS terminals if the wait staff is entering orders and payments and such at the table via tablet. Otherwise anything that matters (to the business) is going to be fixed or isn't super-duper-realtime

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Baird
Has anyone used the CloudTrax stuff? We deployed a few APs recently and they seem to be working fine as far as I know. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: I have 2 at home, easy setup. Basic feature set… problem with reatail locations like restaurants

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Rory Conaway
I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need a management computer. I have the XClaim radio too that I tested at my house. The only problem is no management tool outside your phone and you

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Gino Villarini
Xclaim web management was recently released. What they didn't like about Meraki Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
No, super easy. Set a host entry in the router to your aws instance for remote monitoring and control, or use dhcp option 43. On January 13, 2015 6:53:05 AM AKST, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Isnt unifi a bitch to set up with software? On Jan 13, 2015 9:51 AM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread joseph marsh
So the unifi is like a normal ubnt. Product just program it and leave. It? On Jan 13, 2015 10:47 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I have a customer yanking out his Meraki’s in a couple months and going to UniFi. We have a installations with them, zero problems. But you do need

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Most retail WiFi is for serving the guests. I think the #1 hated thing about free WiFi is poor performance. Usually it'd because they're on a 1.5 meg DSL, but another big contender is the mobile devices just not dropping the bad wireless connection when they should. They hang on too long.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
No remote control options, all setup using a phone at layer 2. I'm waiting for their cloud controller release. On January 13, 2015 7:22:56 AM AKST, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: The new Xclaim AP's are designed for this type of environment. Get the Ruckus RF engineering technology with

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