The new standard is fiber node and then max 3 line extenders.
Seeing these speeds is the norm.
ryan
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broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047
On Jul 7, 2015, at 08:42, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
Ya why the hell would you punish yourself by accepting that...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 1:25 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:
Oh hell no, we would be second guessing equipment failures for the next
LOL!!! I'm certainly glad you didn't blindly accept the shipment. How
daft can some possibly get?!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:
At some point during
They were just trying to make it easier for you to unpack them... :P
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
LOL!!! I'm certainly glad you didn't blindly accept the shipment. How
daft can some possibly get?!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
There is some beta firmware available, but you'll have to use the un-char
activation code to unlock this feature ;)
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Try upgrading the firmware. Surely there’s beta firmware that fixes
fire and water damage.
*From:* Mathew
Try upgrading the firmware. Surely there’s beta firmware that fixes fire and
water damage.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:04 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
They were just trying to make it easier for you to unpack
ha, yeah, but without the gas you are competing with the grocery stores
lower prices on your inflated retail
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Sling TV seems to think the opposite.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sling-tv-ceo-is-not-afraid-of-apple-2015-6
I
At some point during shipping, the entire palette caught on fire. The exterior
cardboard boxes mostly burned away, and some of the interior white boxes were
partly burned. There was also water damage indicating someone put the fire out.
Then, post burning and water, they re-wrapped the pallet
Don't talk about that outside the beta forum!
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Try upgrading the firmware. Surely there’s beta firmware that fixes
fire and water damage.
*From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:04 PM
Does it require new labels?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:
There is some beta firmware available, but you'll have to use the un-char
activation code to unlock this feature ;)
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Try upgrading
Personally, I would have accepted the shipment with notes written on the
receipt. It's possible only 1 or 2 units were actually damaged... and I
wouldn't have wanted to wait for another shipment to arrive.
Travis
On 7/7/2015 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
LOL!!! I'm certainly glad you didn't
I have mediacom at home, I had always been on a 12x2 plan, we are heavy
streaming, no tv and tons of kids the old hag babysits with electronics,
its like a BYOD party at my house plus my folks are connected up to my
house from across the street. My brother in law moved in and was pushing me
over
I decided to use the last octet of the connecting subnet ID, it adds
another layer of complexity, but probably avoids some future disaster. Ill
probably regret doing this down the road when we his 723 million customers
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com wrote:
On
It will not be long before they use all the cable channels for data and then
send you tv over IPTV.
Called VOD. Video over Data. I think that if coax plant is still out there 10
years from now, it will be done this way.
The money is in the data, not the TV.
From: D. Ryan Spott
Sent:
Oh hell no, we would be second guessing equipment failures for the next year..
I.e. hey you know that radio that failed, has imbalanced chains, or whatever,
was it one of the BBQ radios? I’d rather start with a clean slate, we carry
enough stock to survive a missed shipment.
Personally, I
Yeah, I have done it both ways. Depends on how bad you want it.
But if you see forklift damage to a roll of fiber, fugetaboudit.
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 11:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Personally, I
I'm currently in the market for an additional 430 and/or 320 AP for testing
purposes here. They need to be connectorized, as I will be using them for
sync compatibility testing by connecting them to a RF detector and
observing the actual TX transmission timing in relation to the input
It looks like I'm pretty much ready to release this code - provided that
the upgrade-into-real-devices tests goes well tomorrow.However, I'm not
particularly eager to throw this up on the website for anyone to grab based
on the fact that I'm going to be not in the office for the entirety of
Depends on how quick you need them.
A little company I know makes all kinds of stuff like that:
www.mccowntech.com
From: Sam Lambie
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 1:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen roof mounts? Where do you guys get them?
I have to use 10 of them for an
Assuming they have reasonable rates. Our county is charging $90/month for
residential drops (just the customer side of the drop, you still need to pay
for your aggregation port, transport, transit, support, etc. Oh, yeah, and they
didn't pay for it, either. BTOP grant.
-
Mike Hammett
Nello from places like Tessco.
If you want a small one with a 1.66” pipe, I have used these:
http://www.aisatellite.com/files/product/pdf/NPR-18C3.pdf
I’m not sure I’d put a dish on it in a high wind area.
From: Sam Lambie
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject:
I've got a PMP100 A/P that's on 13.4 Beta 7 that I'm trying to upgrade to
13.4 Release. However, it seems to just hang on Transferring
c40_fskboot.image to host. Posted on the Cambium Forums, but haven't gotten
any answers there. Any ideas?
Thanks.
I've got a bunch of old stuff lying around. Pulls from PDQ.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 6:42:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no
I was like this story sounds familiar... oh, it's George ;-)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 8:10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
I have to use 10 of them for an upcoming project. Usually I make them my
self as they aren't in high demand. This is for Cambium or UBNT radios with
a dish and four cinderblocks.
--
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*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Tessco stocks all the various styles of non-pens and has quick delivery..
Peter Kranz
http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam
we have an unrepairable 320 ap, i assume you want functional though
Please please dont DC the 320 syninjectors. Im stuck with these piece of
shit radios and finally got approval to move everything to syncinjectors
and Im only about half way there.
I will send you my old lady in exchange, shes
Yeah, the angry old white man.
On 7/7/2015 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I was like this story sounds familiar... oh, it's George ;-)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
*From:
Jeremy put it right on the dish. There are tabs to latch it, but I like
his idea of only using the two and longer jumpers. This leaves room for
the GPS connector.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 4:54 PM, Ken Hohhof
Mounting bracket? You mean the nub for the back of epmp radios?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 5:05 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote:
We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They work quite
I think the proper way to mount them is to replace the ground lug with a
flat head screw and use a hose clamp. but don't over tighten it... I don't
wish to discuss how I know that's a bad idea...
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
What have people been doing to
What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when using a generic,
non Ubiquiti dish? So there is no Rocket bracket to clip it to? In this
case I am replacing some old Trango 5010 PTP radios and using the existing
Radiowaves dishes.
There's a place on the back of the radio that you
Remove the grounding screw with a 2mm ? allen
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote:
We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They work quite
well.. With a bit of effort, you could even get the mounting screw to go
into the mounting bracket.
430 interop SMs on 450APs use the 450 package. I think you need the 430
CNUT package for straight 430.
On 7/7/2015 4:04 PM, Matt wrote:
What is the SNMP command on 13.4 FSK AP to tell it to do a SA while
simultaneously having all SM's do one as well?
Good point.
Also, I don't know about that specific bracket, but some of the non-ubnt
Rocket mounts don't work with the AF5x because of the little pokers out the
back.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
But the bracket uses a hose clamp...
Josh
Reboot it? If that doesn't help, maybe try downgrading it to 13.1.3 then
upgrade to 13.4?
On 7/7/2015 3:15 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
I've got a PMP100 A/P that's on 13.4 Beta 7 that I'm trying to upgrade
to 13.4 Release. However, it seems to just hang on Transferring
c40_fskboot.image to host.
What's the point of that? The af5x and Rocket can already use a hose clamp.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 5:24 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
There are tabs to latch it where? Are you assuming I am using
Right.. It's a pretty snug fit though, and there's no chance of the
radio escaping the bracket. Also, the top cover fits perfectly over the
radio, protecting the RF connectors, and keeping the top of radio in place.
I wouldn't put it on a railroad bridge, but hanging off a tower, it
would be
But the bracket uses a hose clamp...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 5:28 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
apparently he's anti-hose clamp.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman
The grounding screw lines up with the mount point on the Force dish.
You can actually turn the radio and thread the ground screw into the
bracket. You can add a grounding wire in there as well.. The only
problem is that it makes radio replacement more difficult once it's on a
tower. There are
I played with doing the same thing with an AF5x on a Force 110 dish awhile
back, there's a spot you can get a zip tie through that makes it pretty
solid.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote:
Right.. It's a pretty snug fit though, and there's no chance of the
apparently he's anti-hose clamp.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
What's the point of that? The af5x and Rocket can already use a hose
clamp.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
No, nothing against hose clamps. The heatsink thingies on the back of the AF5X
do seem to be shorter in the middle, and there is that loop you can put a
hoseclamp through, although it looks like you could break it by torquing down
the hoseclamp too agressively.
If that’s the best approach, my
The timed AP analyzer is now sector-wide SA. You can run just the AP by
using continuous mode.
On 7/7/2015 4:04 PM, Matt wrote:
What is the SNMP command on 13.4 FSK AP to tell it to do a SA while
simultaneously having all SM's do one as well?
Oops, other message went to the wrong thread.
It's telling you that because you don't have the 430 (OFDM AES or DES)
package loaded. CNUT won't use the 450 package for auto-update on a 430
AP. I think this confusion is coming from 430 SMs on 450 APs in interop
mode. Only those SMs will take
Or battery acid.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Looks like water ate the cheap brown cardboard.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Battery acid would destroy the plastic wrap, no?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Or battery acid.
*From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*Sent:*
Probably not.
I have seen batteries in corrugated boxes that leaked and looked exactly like
that.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Battery acid would destroy the plastic wrap,
On the topic of pricing, if anyone wants a good read about market
prices/packages you can check out these two pricing studies I published while
working on the Illinois Broadband Mapping project. The study did not go in to
which technologies or which carriers had lowest prices but rather it
I don't know, does the same thing on the A/P and any of the SM's attached
to it. They all behave the exact same way.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
We just did a bunch going from 13.4B10 - 13.4 release. No problems. You
may have a broken radio.
bp
Won't let me downgrade to 13.1.3 either, just sits there transferring the
file forever. Seems that once you put the Beta software on something,
it's there for life :-|
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:23 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Reboot it? If that doesn't help, maybe try
Does the radio's event log show anything?
On 7/7/2015 6:23 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
Won't let me downgrade to 13.1.3 either, just sits there transferring
the file forever. Seems that once you put the Beta software on
something, it's there for life :-|
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:23 PM,
Doesn't appear to. Last thing in the event log was the reboot.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:40 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Does the radio's event log show anything?
On 7/7/2015 6:23 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
Won't let me downgrade to 13.1.3 either, just sits there transferring
2* is my guess
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=81Cat=
Does this antenna have down tilt?
We just did a bunch going from 13.4B10 - 13.4 release. No problems. You
may have a broken radio.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/7/2015 4:23 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
Won't let me downgrade to 13.1.3 either, just sits there transferring
the file forever. Seems that once you put the Beta
http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=81Cat=
Does this antenna have down tilt?
Maybe a windows firewall issue? Do other radios update from that machine
fine? Might try going on-site and trying the update locally.
On 7/7/2015 6:43 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
Doesn't appear to. Last thing in the event log was the reboot.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:40 PM, George Skorup
No firewall on the machine, and it's the same one that I use for all our
radio updates.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:45 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Maybe a windows firewall issue? Do other radios update from that machine
fine? Might try going on-site and trying the update locally.
Forrest,
I have a perfect test environment for this. My central tower has been
impacted almost every day due to the lightning activity here. I have spare
injectors to fall back on if needed. Please count me in !!!
Steve B.
_
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
100% agree with Brian. This seems to be the path for about 99% of the Muni
WISPS out there. Keep your eye on it, get to the know the staff. When the
pain seems to get to much for them to bear offer to step in.
The only thing you will have to deal with is the customers who think you
should charge,
That link shows plots that sure look like 0 degrees. Identical to L-Com part?
Same plots.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 7:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni
2* is my guess
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
they will try so hard just not to keep it going. Once they go over the
tipping point of going out to peoples homes to hook up grandmas laptop
or keep their ipad connected.
On 7/7/2015 7:03 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
100% agree with Brian. This seems to be the path for about 99% of the
Muni
I thought they made the screw stick out so it was 'dummy proof'. That way
even if you don't ground it the screw makes contact with the tower/pole and
makes a ground. I don't know why anyone wouldn't ground a $300 radio
though...
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
Another stance could be to tell them that they have to open it up for other
players to ride their fiber.. Think if you can come in and go, for xyz
install, and you supply the bandwidth, you can charge what you want, and
deliver xyz bandwidth. Now you are riding their fiber, and deliver to
The common assumption is that Internet prices are greatly inflated due to lack
of competition, and if there were more competition, a price war would ensue and
prices would drop dramatically. Not sure if this is true, but if so, the
likely result would be covering just the operating costs, or
You can put a probe and crystal detector in front of them and get RF that way
without connectorizing them.
1/4 wave probe and detector on a scope cable.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 1:29 AM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] Would like a 430 connectorized AP (and
Check out UTOPIA for a good case study. There are plenty more too.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
100% agree with Brian. This seems to be the path for about 99% of the Muni
WISPS out there.
Witchcraft!
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You can put a probe and crystal detector in front of them and get RF
that way without connectorizing them.
1/4 wave probe and detector on a scope cable.
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
I’m not sure there’s a non connectorized AP.
From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Would like a 430 connectorized AP (and possibly a 320too).
Witchcraft!
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You can put a
What is the SNMP command on 13.4 FSK AP to tell it to do a SA while
simultaneously having all SM's do one as well?
We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They work
quite well.. With a bit of effort, you could even get the mounting screw
to go into the mounting bracket.
Vlad
On 7/7/2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when using a
generic,
CNUT keeps telling me that there aren't any available packages when I try
to use the 450 pkg on 430 SM's. got any tips?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
430 interop SMs on 450APs use the 450 package. I think you need the 430
CNUT package for straight 430.
right... the threaded bit on the Force dish.
Vlad
On 7/7/2015 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Mounting bracket? You mean the nub for the back of epmp radios?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 5:05 PM, Vlad Sedov
It looks like it caught on fire, got put out, and THEN they shrink wrapped
it and shipped it. Is that right??
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
wrote:
Can I buy those as a lot ? I will pay $0.10 on the dollar. ?
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet
Looks like water ate the cheap brown cardboard.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 7, 2015 10:51 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like it caught on fire, got put out, and THEN they shrink wrapped
it and shipped
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