Re: [AFMUG] Customer Upload Bandwidth Maxed Out

2015-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm assuming they'll only block if they're actually using the torrent protocol. If they're using something else (perhaps in-house), I'm assuming it'll go through. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] Standby power controller question

2015-08-19 Thread David
The one I have is not a Rodchester but its a Gaslow and I think it uses the same sensor using a hall effect. Its a model AD-3G If it is I will set it up that way. thanks Dave On 08/18/2015 05:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Yes, all of those switches are snmp visible. You

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I use fast blow, why not? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 19, 2015 9:47 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I use fast blow 5x20 mm fuses for radios and other electronics, but recently became aware that medium blow fuses

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Upload Bandwidth Maxed Out

2015-08-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
If the customer has their own router, not much you can do. We use the CPEs for our router for homes, if they want a wireless AP, we put in our own 951U, (powers the CPE too) and but that in bridge mode so its simple. Then you can set PCQ ques on the CPE and prevent that kind of issue ☺ Wish

[AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I use fast blow 5x20 mm fuses for radios and other electronics, but recently became aware that medium blow fuses exist. Not widely available, but examples are Belfuse 530-5MT and Littelfuse 233 series. So is anyone using these? Any advantage? I'm thinking devices that might have enough

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

2015-08-19 Thread Rory Conaway
I have a B5 on the same 8' pole so the radios are about 4' apart. Since the B5 is running in 5.1GHz, I put the B5-Lite at 5.8GHz. I'm not seeing a problem, they are both rocking along. The B5 is shooting about 2.7 miles so it's cranked up. The B5-Lite Spectrum analyzer is showing the B5's

Re: [AFMUG] Throughput Monitoring

2015-08-19 Thread David
Cacti does this without much fuss If your looking for real time by the second it may be some fuss. If your looking for a 5min average and weekly,monthly and yearly report then cacti maybe a solution On 08/19/2015 09:59 AM, Matt wrote: Is there a way to enable - Statistics / Throughput /

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Upload Bandwidth Maxed Out

2015-08-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Not really, its probably in the eula we dont read. Microsoft proably has owned our first born since 3.1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: This is pretty scummy. It's actually a good feature because you can restrict it to only pc's on your local network, but if

[AFMUG] Throughput Monitoring

2015-08-19 Thread Matt
Is there a way to enable - Statistics / Throughput / Throughput monitoring with SNMP? Its a pain logging into GUI to change each AP.

Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm, possibly DC surge protector???

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what she said Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: That was fast On 8/19/2015 11:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] ViVint SR1410 CPE

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Antenna is 19db triple mimo On Aug 18, 2015 5:06 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: haI ripped the tags off my sofas and mattresses. I have no fear Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com

[AFMUG] New LinkPlanner on second monitor - doesn't full screen right

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm using Win7 on my laptop and an external monitor on the right. If I full screen LinkPlanner the left few pixels (10?) are not showing on the monitor. I don't remember this happening previously, I wonder if it was one of the updates. I'm on 4.3.1. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm, possibly DC surge protector???

2015-08-19 Thread Adam Moffett
That was fast On 8/19/2015 11:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Throughput Monitoring

2015-08-19 Thread Cameron Crum
I think he meant is there a way to turn it on via snmp not can you monitor it. That is the way I read it anyway. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:17 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Cacti does this without much fuss If your looking for real time by the second it may be some fuss. If your

Re: [AFMUG] Throughput Monitoring

2015-08-19 Thread Matt
I think he meant is there a way to turn it on via snmp not can you monitor it. That is the way I read it anyway. Yep, monitoring with MRTG already. Seems like I cannot enable it with an SNMP write though. Cacti does this without much fuss If your looking for real time by the second it may

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/19/15 10:51, Ken Hohhof wrote: So I was just wondering if the medium blow fuses had their place. Some distributors like Allied don’t even have them in their catalog, so I guess they are a rare bird. Allied has them; Buss GMC series.

[AFMUG] Pre-terminated fiber in Canada

2015-08-19 Thread Ryan Ray
Anyone have a source for pre-terminated direct burial multimode lc fiber that ships to Canada? Having a hell of a time finding anyone. Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm, possibly DC surge protector???

2015-08-19 Thread George Skorup
That's awesome! So what is the fuse protecting? The + input? On 8/19/2015 10:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Pre-terminated fiber in Canada

2015-08-19 Thread Adam Moffett
Those connectors you refer to in that thread sound like they have an index matching gel inside. I have been told that stuff degrades over a few years and the attenuation goes up as the gel degrades. On 8/19/2015 12:45 PM, TJ Trout wrote: do it yourself. it's as easy as terminating an rj45

Re: [AFMUG] Platinum Tools EZ: Internal or External Ground?

2015-08-19 Thread TJ Trout
(tough cable connector style ground) On Aug 18, 2015 8:18 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: These use a tough cable style ground On Aug 18, 2015 1:08 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: I found a source for the external ground ones for 45 cents each instead of 1.60$ but u have

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Cloud Hosted Router. It's a branch of ROS with drivers and other support specific to virtual environments. It has FastPath for x86 as well. There's a thread on their forum and we talked about it in the last TBW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59DP8_VorFc - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Bill Prince
I'm with Forrest. Stick to the fast blow. Remember, fuses are not used to protect the equipment, they are used to protect the wiring. Since it is usually faulty equipment causing the over current condition, it is already probably toast anyway. Just make the fuse large enough to handle the

[AFMUG] effective grounding of ePMP on tower 250' from house

2015-08-19 Thread Tyler Treat
Looking for a few cost effective options/ideas here... My parents have an EPMP link from my favorite local WISP on a 40' Rohn25 around 250' from their house. Shielded cat5 direct buried between the house and tower. Have grounded 600SS at tower and at House entrance, but I don't recall if

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Fast is better for protection.Better than old cigarette pack method used on Fender and Marshall amps back in the day On Aug 19, 2015 7:47 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I use fast blow 5x20 mm fuses for radios and other electronics, but recently became aware that medium blow fuses

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Keefe John
Whats the CHR? On 8/18/2015 8:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Also, don't forget the new CHR, though it's still in beta. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks, somehow I missed that. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses On 8/19/15 10:51, Ken Hohhof wrote: So I was just wondering if the medium blow fuses had their place. Some

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread George Skorup
I use fast-blow, they're a lot cheaper and easier to find. Note, a 5GHz 450AP will run on a 1/2A fuse, and then blow the next morning when the traffic hits. Ask me how I know. :( 1/2A fuses are now banned from inventory. Our standard is 1A for everything but SyncInjectors which get a 5A.

Re: [AFMUG] list of IP addresses to block Windows 10 uploads

2015-08-19 Thread David
That is to make it customer friendly :) u know just plug and play and stop calling tech support asking where the power button is :) On 08/19/2015 11:30 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I like this wifi sense that shares your wireless password with all your pals, thats defaultly turned on.

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
What got me on this track was discovering the replacement fuse for the Trango ApexPlus/Lynx/Stratalink POE boxes is a 3.5 amp medium blow. It’s kind of amusing because the single radio power supply they sell is only rated 1.5 amps, so it can’t blow the fuse. But when I power it from a 6 amp

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Protect the wiring yes, but my main concern is that one bad radio or other device doesn’t take down the whole site. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses I'm with Forrest. Stick to the fast blow. Remember, fuses

Re: [AFMUG] list of IP addresses to block Windows 10 uploads

2015-08-19 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I like this wifi sense that shares your wireless password with all your pals, thats defaultly turned on. The ISP industry almost had customer trained to the point where they understood the need for securing your wireless, then microsoft says here, have some herpes On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:20

Re: [AFMUG] Throughput Monitoring

2015-08-19 Thread David
Ah.. K I did not read the whole thread :) On 08/19/2015 11:51 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: I think he meant is there a way to turn it on via snmp not can you monitor it. That is the way I read it anyway. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:17 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com

Re: [AFMUG] Pre-terminated fiber in Canada

2015-08-19 Thread TJ Trout
Time will tell. takes 20 seconds to replace one for $8 that's a lot of connectors compared to a splice machine or pre term On Aug 19, 2015 9:51 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Those connectors you refer to in that thread sound like they have an index matching gel inside. I have

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Bill Prince
I use a separate fuse for each device. The buss coming into the fuse is much larger than the wire coming out. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 8/19/2015 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Protect the wiring yes, but my main concern is that one bad radio or other device doesn’t take down the whole

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
A fast blow fuse is really very very slow when compared to electronics. I'd recommend sticking with the fast blow fuses. If you're asking because you have nuisance blows I might consider just moving up a amp or so depending on what you're protecting. On Aug 19, 2015 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
You really like that cable management duct stuff, don’t you. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:56 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector In truck bed before mounting On Aug 19, 2015 12:49 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
SCADA work always done this way On Aug 19, 2015 1:01 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: You really like that cable management duct stuff, don’t you. *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:56 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] -48 PDU suggestions

2015-08-19 Thread Trey Scarborough
On 8/18/2015 1:51 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I like the packetflux PDU, but I need to switch -48 loads. Does anybody have any suggestions? Forrest.if you make it I will buy it. Try ICT if you want remote meter and switching capabilities. These are the ones I have been using.

Re: [AFMUG] effective grounding of ePMP on tower 250' from house

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder if you put something like a cheap Ethernet switch ahead of the router, if it would just pop the one port, or the whole switch, and whether it would propagate through the switch and still pop the router port (I have seen that). If it just pops one port on the switch, you can mark it

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread jerry
I like the servicability. Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: SCADA work always done this way On Aug 19, 2015 1:01 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: You really like that cable management duct stuff, don’t you. From: Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
form fit and function Toughswitch powered by DC power supply and protected on LAN and power sides Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, je...@richardson.bz wrote: I like the servicability. Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2015, at 12:04 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread chuck
Set it on a cardboard box. (With a sticky note warning not to touch case...) From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v I'll probably just float the ground. On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Josh Baird

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Mathew Howard
I haven't seen any issues going from as far back as, I think, 1.2 on the bench directly to 2.4.3. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Joe Novak jno...@lrcomm.com wrote: on the bench I took and upgraded from whatever FW they came with (it had a black interface) to the newest no issue that I know

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh, so not the CHR? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:08:49 PM

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett
From what I've heard, it is DPDK enabled. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread chuck
Hard to float a radio if it has an antenna mounted to a tower. From: Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v I'm about to do the exact opposite - convert +48V to -48V to power a radio. I have an RSD in between. Should

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Sterling Jacobson
And by CHR I mean just a regular x86 image I managed to load on my hosted providers structure from CD image. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing we tried to test the 10Gbps

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Jason McKemie
I'll probably just float the ground. On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: They are hard to find. Where will you ground the MT in this type of scenario (with an RSD in between your -48V rectifier and MT)? Josh On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Jason McKemie

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tecate would do it for me but my wife likes me to give her and so does mortgage company. Maybe a primer at AF? On Aug 19, 2015 2:42 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Jamie would you like to come work in Colorado next summer and Jamie-ify all our boxes lol. I can pay with tecate if

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Good point, the damn thing is mounted to the same rack as the -48v unit right now. I believe the -48v unit is isolated from the rack, but I had better make sure before I switch the Mikrotik over to DC power. -Jason On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Set it on a cardboard

[AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Tyler Treat
Hey folks - We have a mix of ePMP radios that we want to get to current firmware. Is there a specific upgrade path from 1.4.0 to current, or can i just move to 2.4.3 Thanks Tyler

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch and Ethernet Surge Protector

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lots of the design is canned AutoCAD stuff we cookie cut since we try to use what works well. Most of these are for water pump systems and most of them use the same system.We have templates and measurements are standard. Makes it easier also when engineers give us drawings and schematics. On

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Joe Novak
on the bench I took and upgraded from whatever FW they came with (it had a black interface) to the newest no issue that I know of. YMMV as always On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:42 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: I think you will need to move to 2.4 before jumping to 2.4.3 On 08/19/2015 04:33

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
The only thing a fuse protects against, when properly sized and installed, is a short circuit event. They should never be viewed as some kind of surge protection unless you enjoy being disappointed. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Fast is better

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread David
I think you will need to move to 2.4 before jumping to 2.4.3 On 08/19/2015 04:33 PM, Tyler Treat wrote: Hey folks - We have a mix of ePMP radios that we want to get to current firmware. Is there a specificupgrade path from 1.4.0 to current, or can i just move to 2.4.3 Thanks Tyler

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread David
I did that with no issue when 2.4 came about. On 08/19/2015 04:52 PM, Joe Novak wrote: on the bench I took and upgraded from whatever FW they came with (it had a black interface) to the newest no issue that I know of. YMMV as always On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:42 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

2015-08-19 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Oh, that would be nice. I have a CHR already loaded as an image on nearly bare metal at my hosting company. Wasn’t too hard, but I’m sure the drivers and stuff don’t take advantage of the ability to dynamically add/remove CPU, Memory and HD space. Let alone the 10Gbps networking. So that

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Tyler Treat
Thanks guys! I'll try it tonight! From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path All my new radios are 1.2.3. I upgrade to

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread George Skorup
Yes, the RSD is isolated in such a way that you can ground the + side of the input (from the -48 rectifier) and also ground the - side of the output.. nothing bad will happen. The SD series, yeah, don't do that. I think it was Erich that said he had to disconnect the SD frame ground because he

Re: [AFMUG] medium blow fuses

2015-08-19 Thread George Skorup
But the SyncInjector has overcurrent for each radio and the SyncPipe. So I'm not real worried about things cooking with that. Exactly as you said though, with no protection, a single radio, SS, whatever shorting takes the whole site down. And that's ungood. I've had to replace a bunch of

Re: [AFMUG] ADSS cable

2015-08-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have a couple thousand feet of that plus some pile attachment hardware if you wanted to try it cheap. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 7:13 PM Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: That's what I use. Keep in mind that the attachment hardware you're looking at (trunion) is mainly for

Re: [AFMUG] Hmmm, possibly DC surge protector???

2015-08-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Sweet. On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Erich Kaiser
I have also come to the conclusion if deploying anymore -48v radios, each radio will have its own fused DC to DC converter. I really wish Meanwell built a 100 Watt version of the RSD for size purposes and price... Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Jason McKemie
I did continuity testing on a Meanwell SD series that I have sitting around - the inputs, outputs, and ground all seem to be isolated. Is this a good indicator? On Wednesday, August 19, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Personally, I ground one side of every power supply. In this case,

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Erich Kaiser
Yep... Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:01 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Yes, the RSD is isolated in such a way that you can ground the + side of the input (from the -48 rectifier) and

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Tyler Treat
So it seems like between 2.3.4 and 2.4 this thing decides to stop allowing changes to be saved. Any ideas? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com

Re: [AFMUG] B5-Lite

2015-08-19 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Looks promising. We see mixed results with B5 with other 5GHz gear on the same tower. Lower modulations than expected. Radar events with new firmware (mimosa is working on this). Does the B5 lite show the same? As it does not gps-sync with B5 it will behave like foreign gear to a B5. So no

Re: [AFMUG] Mixing +48v and -48v

2015-08-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
I saw antennas mounted on tower at Phillips 66 refinery in Borger, Texas with rubber sleeve between mount and tower legs. This tower was always getting hit by lightning until they installed that weird system I mentioned once on list with these clear plastic barrels with green looking rock stuff

Re: [AFMUG] epmp update path

2015-08-19 Thread Tyler Treat
Taking this a step further- Eptp mode. Any caveats to turning this on? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Aug 19,