Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I thought for a minute you converted to Judaism and had two separate kitchen everything's. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, 11:38 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > If you notice, we have two fridges. > > My fridge is on the left. > My wife’s food hospice is on the right. > > No leftovers go in my fridge. > And also

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Ipiphony does it using a rate deck. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, 8:55 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Question for those doing VoIP, how are you processing your billing for > international calling monthly? > > Extract the CDR for the customer's SIP registration for days 1-31 of the > month, and give it to a thi

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
We blocked it unleaded they requested it On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, 9:03 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > International calling scares the bejeebers out of me. The billing issues, > and fear of toll fraud. We have it blocked. No customer has ever noticed. > (Our customer base is not very worldly.) Seriously

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
That was our model and it was very profitable. After the initial configuration there were fewer changes than you might imagine. Very good money. Faxes though Argh! Inbound was zero trouble with fax to pdf via email but outbound... If someone wanted a real fax instead of a scanner it was a p

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix bandwidth

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Hulu is only available in the US as well … Netflix is in many countries including for example Canada where streaming concentration is much higher. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Gino Villarini
2 fridges nice Fu%^* Idea!!! If i had one, it would be filled with Bacon and Ribeye steak! On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I thought for a minute you converted to Judaism and had two separate > kitchen everything's. > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, 11:38 PM Chuck McCown wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Broad? Such a romantic Jaime Solorza On Oct 8, 2015 10:52 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > secret to a long lasting marriage, my broad would just fill my fridge with > her crap after hers overflowed if I married her though. > > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
You notice that he used the "one guy" email addy for that one! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Oct 9, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Broad? Such a romantic > > Jaime Solorza > >> On Oct 8, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread David
Im coming to your house if you get one... M BACON! On 10/09/2015 07:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: 2 fridges nice Fu%^* Idea!!! If i had one, it would be filled with Bacon and Ribeye steak! On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: I t

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread David
DDOSDNS bot trying to find a live host for pushing responses. add rule input udp dest-port 53 interface=to internet drop in your firewall hate those little bastards dont have anything else to do except do what their programmed to do On 10/08/2015 11:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: So

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep. He does entertain Jaime Solorza On Oct 9, 2015 7:00 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" wrote: > You notice that he used the "one guy" email addy for that one! > > Jeff Broadwick > ConVergence Technologies, Inc. > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > > On Oct 9,

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Average Residential consumer spends between $50 to $100 / month on their home phone bill, and is looking to reduce it further (very low usage) Average very small Business with a couple of phone lines spends about $150 to $200 / month Average small Business 4-6 lines spends about $500 to $700 /

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Faisal, do you own the phones, or does the customer? From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 8:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP Average Residential consumer spends between $50 to $100 / month on their home phone bill, and is looking to reduce it further (very

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We have done it both ways Most of our hosted pbx customer buy the phones out-right (they can buy new polycom phones or we can provide them with grade A refurbished). They typically run $100 to $200 each, average spend is $125 / $150 per phone. We offer a monthly rental average $7/month (w

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix bandwidth

2015-10-09 Thread Jeremy
To watch 'free' Hulu on TV you have to use PlayOn from a home server to transcode it. Hulu Plus is the only one that allows TV viewing, and has higher resolutions, more episodes (like a full season), and the pay version actually has less TV shows (as the licensing doesn't allow certain shows on a

[AFMUG] Release 13.4.1 Beta - Now Available

2015-10-09 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up... System Release 13.4.1 Beta software is now available for download: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/beta It fixes numerous issues that we've been discussing here (and even adds a couple of minor features), so if you were experiencing an

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Kosher bacon is allowed in my fridge. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight I thought for a minute you converted to Judaism and had two separate kitchen everything's. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, 11:38 PM Chuck McCown wrote

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
My policy on this interface is default deny, so it is dropping them, but its still going on to just the one IP out if the /28 subnet. I dont mind dropping them, its not noticable bandwidth, I just cant figure out why it is the traffic is focused there, I almost wonder if I ws to stick a DNS server

[AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie
Looking to deliver to 4 locations with 4 HD Cameras on each location. Need probably about 25-35 mbps UPLOAD per location. This will be in a small plaza in Taos NM Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-10-09 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Guys, Please try out 13.4.1 open beta which solve this REGISTERING issue, you may notice some debug message in Event log, they are there for investigation purpose. Thanks, Chitrang From: Af on behalf of Tushar Patel Sent: 10 September 2015 19:02:28 To: af@af

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I have not used Radwin jet (and don't know what it is), but I have used Radwin 1000 and Radwin 2000. If they have a link budget calculator for the Jet, then go by that rather than the spec sheet. The number in the spec sheet is probably not achievable in real life. On 10/9/2015 12:09 PM, Sa

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
"Jet" is the 802.11 tweak that was originated at Ligowave. It is somewhat analogous to AirMax on UBNT equipment (not the same or compatible by any means). I thought I heard that Ligowave & Radwin merged or something a while back? bp On 10/9/2015 9:09 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: Looking to deliver

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Radwin Jet is there PTMP AP with beam forming. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
their* sorry couldn't resist Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Radwin Jet is there PTMP AP with beam forming. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Stre

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
Yah. Just figured that out. The Radwin/Ligowave parallel was apparently a figment of my imagination. bp On 10/9/2015 9:39 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Radwin Jet is there PTMP AP with beam forming. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 23

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie
What I am most interested in though is SLA and more importantly, upload capacity. Their website doesn't seem to have any literature on the HSU's as to whether or not they have a dynamic ratio capability. Are there other vendors that can do higher than 20 mbps on PTMP? On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:43

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Epmp in 50/50? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 9, 2015 1:05 PM, "Sam Lambie" wrote: > What I am most interested in though is SLA and more importantly, upload > capacity. Their website doesn't seem to have any literature on the

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Sam Lambie
You mean 50/50 ratio right? What is the throughput of those puppies? In the real world of course. I don't believe their claims of 200 mbps. Of which I assume is aggregate. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Epmp in 50/50? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Claims are 120. In a good environment that's possible. I get 5 bits/hz on strong links. Bad links of 70 and 75 I'm seeing 4 bits/hz. Everything is 10 or 20 MHz in my world. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 9, 2015 1:26 PM, "S

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I always did the same thing with 90 days "free" changes included. It's free in that I didn't bill separately for it, but after doing a few PBX's it became clear that they'll always want to change a bunch of stuff early on, so I figured extra hours of labor into the price of the system. That's

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Yeah, that is also a good strategy...We do that with the more complex conversations.. The ironic part is, most of the time is consumed in explaining the feature, and getting the client to explain how they want the call flow, doing the actual work for adjusting the call flow is a small fraction

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
If you can capture the traffic, you may find that it is legitimate traffic for a misconfigured domain. I.e. some domain has their name servers listed including that ip. A capture should show which domain the query is for. I seem to recall the sniffer functionality in a mikrotik will either de

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Paul McCall
That looks really good ! making me hungry! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight Whole pan of scallops.

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
LOVE scallops; especially the big ones like that. Also like the his & hers refrigerators! That Nutella will kill you. ;-) bp On 10/8/2015 9:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Whole pan of scallops.

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Ty Featherling
LOL So will that cast iron skillet. It's all in how you use it. ;) -Ty On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > LOVE scallops; especially the big ones like that. > > Also like the his & hers refrigerators! > > That Nutella will kill you. > > ;-) > > bp > > > > On 10/8/2015 9:08 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Property law question

2015-10-09 Thread Brian Webster
I am not a lawyer but I did speak with my brother on this topic as his is a land surveyor in the state for which this question has been posed. With my understanding of how rights of way were explained to me in NY, I would say that in this situation the municipality does not own the road, the

Re: [AFMUG] New to VoIP

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yep. We have a ten pages excel sheet we used to ask questions and document answers to help create the carpool flow. I think on average those discussions take about two hours and wear everybody out. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015, 12:45 PM Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Yeah, that is also a good strategy...We do th

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
It's a hazard of reading the ingredient labels. The ingredient label on Nutella starts with: 1. Sugar 2. Oil 3. Hazelnuts Which means there is more sugar and oil than there is nuts. WTF?!?! Why not just use a spoon with a bowl of sugar? bp On 10/9/2015 11:12 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: LOL S

Re: [AFMUG] Dinner tonight

2015-10-09 Thread Ty Featherling
Because I've tried that and it wasn't as delicious as Nutella! -Ty On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > It's a hazard of reading the ingredient labels. The ingredient label on > Nutella starts with: > >1. Sugar >2. Oil >3. Hazelnuts > > Which means there is more suga

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Brian Webster
You can do this with radio mobile fairly easily. The key is to create separate RF plots for each sector. Once that is done you place the RF plots for each sector in Google Earth but create separate folders that are organized by channel/frequency. Only the sector plots for any frequency channel g

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread David
That was actual Ethernet traffic from that AP interface polling using SNMP for that interface On 10/08/2015 05:09 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Are you graphing your Frame Utilization? Can you post a screenshot? Also, when you are hitting 100Mbps, is that your AP's Ethernet traffic or RF traffic

[AFMUG] Canopy BH5780 & 5480 AKA as BH230 FS

2015-10-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Got about 10 units on both bands, if interested ping me offlilst

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Example.[cid:image002.jpg@01D1029C.B38E0D80] Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
How do you get to that??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Example. > > > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. > > den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.link

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Adam Moffett
That's more or less what I was thinking. I figured if I use a variety of light colors and give them a little transparency then the areas of concern would be readily apparent. If towercoverage.com does it with one click then it's less tedious though. On 10/9/2015 2:27 PM, Brian Webster wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Multi-Map, frequency usage tab. However, on the coverages inside that multi-map you must have specified an exact center frequency. Every 20 mhz it changes the color, so if two are the same frequency or within 20 mhz, they would be the same color. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. de

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Hi Craig, There is an offline frame calculator available to configure ePMP and FSK for sync. It can be found here: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp/ and is titled "ePMP-PMP 100(FSK) Co-location Calculator”. With your FSK settings below you can sync with ePMP with the following set

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh neat, there's tabs up there... Also you can update the whole multi map! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Multi-Map, frequency usage tab. > > > > However, on the

Re: [AFMUG] RF mapping planning

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
Will there _*_ever_*_ be an option to just set the frames to a particular dimension? For example, go to AP x, set the parameters to whatever you need. You run the frame calculator, and you get something like below: *Modulation:FSK * Total Frame Bits : 25000 *AP Details : * Data Sl

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is there a way to get a tcpdump package onto mikrotik On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > If you can capture the traffic, you may find that it is legitimate > traffic for a misconfigured domain. I.e. some domain has their name > ser

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
tools > sniffer Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > is there a way to get a tcpdump package onto mikrotik > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Fo

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
You run the packet sniffer, save the file and open it with Wireshark. bp On 10/9/2015 12:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: is there a way to get a tcpdump package onto mikrotik On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote: If yo

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
You can also stream it straight to your PC. Open Wireshark and filter 'tzsp'. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > You run the packet sniffer, save the file and open it with Wireshar

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
without dumping it to a server. the sniffer doesnt seem to have a verbose option that ive read On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > tools > sniffer > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Bill Prince
Verbose is the default. There is a checkbox for headers only. bp On 10/9/2015 12:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: without dumping it to a server. the sniffer doesnt seem to have a verbose option that ive read On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Stream it =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > without dumping it to a server. > the sniffer doesnt seem to have a verbose option that ive rea

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-09 Thread David
use wire shark or SHARKNADO tool On 10/09/2015 03:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Stream it =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: with

[AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
That guy in Oregon made statements right out of Catcher in the Rye. I always felt that book was a good screening tool for high school boys. If they loved the book, watch out. If they thought Holden was a sad character or a loser, then they are probably going to turn out OK.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
oh snap On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > That guy in Oregon made statements right out of Catcher in the Rye. > > I always felt that book was a good screening tool for high school boys. > If they loved the book, watch out. If they thought Holden was a sad > character or a l

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ahem. I can probably quote most of the best lines from it still and I don't own a gun. It was required reading for all Freshmen at the Jesuit high school i attended. As far as I know lots of engineers and doctors came out of those early 70s classes. Even a mayor! Seems like more youngsters wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
News reports should not be calling the latest incident in Arizona a “campus shooting”. Yes there was shooting, yes it was on campus. But a confrontation between two groups of students in a parking lot at 1:20am is not what most people think of when you say “campus shooting”. From: Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Bryan Wilt
Yea I agree. Anything to put a little more pressure on gun control. I'm in Baltimore, and MD has some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. It seems like the only people here who can carry guns are the bad guys. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure gun violence is getting worse here, even

Re: [AFMUG] Property law question

2015-10-09 Thread Chuck Hogg
Exactly what my point was about putting it in the ROW, cannot reduce the use for the highway. Around here if it is unmarked like that, it's 30' from center, so probably 50 like you stated for hiim. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Brian Webster wrote: > I am not a lawyer but I di

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I didn’t see a gun control agenda in it, more like sensationalizing the news to get ratings. A rumble in the parking lot is boring, but add “campus shooter” and you have some good click bait. Almost as good as “side boob” or “bikini body”. From: Bryan Wilt Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 6:0

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
I have never owned a gun, but I grew up with guns. Enjoyed hunting as a youth. I fully reserve the right to go buy a gun any time I want to. I didn’t have guns. I had little kids. I knew what I did every time I was left home alone... did not want my kids to have that option. From: J

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure this is true, but my wife said that in Israel all the school teachers are packin’ heat. No school shootings since 1974 Have not checked snopes to see if this is actually true. From: Bryan Wilt Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread George Skorup
That's what a safe is for. But knowing you Chuck, you probably could have figured out how to crack it at 7 years old. :) On 10/9/2015 7:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have never owned a gun, but I grew up with guns. Enjoyed hunting as a youth. I fully reserve the right to go buy a gun any time I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know about that but I spent a few months in Israel and it seemed like everyone was packing. Young women, old men, everybody. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015, 7:56 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Not sure this is true, but my wife said that in Israel all the school > teachers are packin’ heat. No school sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Remember Israel has universal military service, also all the school teachers are like Ziva from NCIS. Not like us with our Youtube videos of drunk rednecks shooting their own foot. I’m trying to imagine Ms. Frizzle from Magic School Bus with an UZI. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, October 0

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Jason McKemie
http://www.theonion.com/article/nra-calls-for-teachers-to-keep-loaded-gun-pointed--34336 On Friday, October 9, 2015, Chuck McCown wrote: > Not sure this is true, but my wife said that in Israel all the school > teachers are packin’ heat. No school shootings since 1974 > > Have not checked snope

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If you were to actually look at the "telltale signs" that were Monday morning quarterbacked after all these incidents, the vast majority of the population would be locked up. The only way to know who is going to be the next mass killer is to happen to be there that day, the guy with the weapons ki

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" in US. It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the statistics for accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be very restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club an

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Jay Weekley
By the time police get to you then you are dead. It IS freedom to have a gun at home. Keep the gun locked up and the ammunition kept locked up separately. Stefan Englhardt wrote: Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" in US. It is not all about the criminals o

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Stefan Englhardt
My chance to get killed is much less then your chance. Without owning a weapon ...This "lock separately" does not work and we had a case of campus shooting where a father did not follow this rule ... If this father did not own a weapon his mad son would not have the possibility to kill. Ta

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread George Skorup
Because it is my right and I can choose whether or not to exercise it. That's freedom. Freedom is not begging for your life while you wait 10 minutes for the cops to show up. They may as well just send the coroner. You can't fix stupid or crazy, but you can mitigate it with a few rounds of .45

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Saw it tonight. Good stuff! Agree. Will hold off on comments for anyone who hasn't seen it yet... - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:48 PM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Martian Loved it. Much better phy

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
This shouldn't give anything away. I was hoping hoping hoping they didn't end it right after the "rescue". I wanted to see some aftermath - what happened once they got back, etc. I was glad they did not end it right at "the rescue..." - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Girlfriend commented on how many "geeks" were in the movie if we were at the southpoint this week, i'd say lets all go see it again together! but since we're not... lol - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 7:12 AM Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i'm cheap. i don't want to pay for it (nor do i really like it) - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review I avoid 3D. They are not as bright and it doesn’t play well with my glasses

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I just watched it as well. Fantastic. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 10, 2015 1:12 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > Saw it tonight. Good stuff! Agree. Will hold off on comments for anyone > who hasn't seen it yet... > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
the "convertible" didn't throw you? It did mei mean, really? Now you just KNEW halfway through that launch the tent tarp would come offi mean, you just knew it. then again they pointed out the very thin atmosphereand stuff usually burns up on re-entry, not taking off. but still

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - not positive - some spoiler info

2015-10-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
here we have 4-5:30 showings for $5.50. We're cheap... - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman via Af To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - not positive - some spoiler info I just read the first couple sentences.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread Josh Luthman
SPOILERS Mars is -55c, one would think those potatoes would be useless in minutes. Even if they took an hour, it was hours before he sealed the lab. Untethered was driving me nuts. So dumb. Bad for science and the movie. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suit

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

2015-10-09 Thread Steve D
This is the perfect deployment scenario for the radwin 5000. You'll get that upload. Play with R-planner (or get a sales rep to do it for you if learning its not-as-intuitive-as-it-looks-like-it-should-be interface isn't getting you anywhere) and, just like cambium's link planner, if you don't ge

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am too tired from gig to post much tonight but I am a proud American but disagree with idea of its our right to own guns using the 2nd amendment .it has been interpreted poorly... you guys opened this can... good night Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Fri, Oct 9,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

2015-10-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
greatthankswhy go now? it has a happy ending...predictable Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:13 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > This shouldn't give anything away. I was hoping hoping hoping they didn't > end it right after the "rescue"