Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Robbie Wright
Correct, we're both right. All of the other groups do require coordination though. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband 541-902-5101 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:50 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Group C low power nation-wide is not coordinated. > > On 5/11/2016 11:19 PM, Ro

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
Group C low power nation-wide is not coordinated. On 5/11/2016 11:19 PM, Robbie Wright wrote: The only Baofeng with any cert is the UV82C, which is certified for use in Part 90 land mobile. Business itinerant is locally coordinated and you are issued specific freq's to use. The band is shared,

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We did a 4.9ghz project for a municipality once, their server room was like a freezer, you could see your breath and everything On May 11, 2016 10:43 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > We always kept our NOC temps around 72-74F... mainly because that would > give us time if an A/C unit failed (or swit

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Speed timing system

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
One of the old heath kit projects was this very thing On May 11, 2016 10:47 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking to purchase a simple speed timing system (wireless or wired) > for my son's football team. It doesn't have to be "track" accurate, nor > will it be used for any competiti

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Robbie Wright
The only Baofeng with any cert is the UV82C, which is certified for use in Part 90 land mobile. Business itinerant is locally coordinated and you are issued specific freq's to use. The band is shared, but freq's are not, George is incorrect. I proved this link

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Speed timing system

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
http://www.everythingtrackandfield.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product2_10152_10753_2002728_-1_2000412_2000390_2000388_ProductDisplayErrorView On May 11, 2016 10:47 PM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking to purchase a simple speed timing system (wireless or wired) > for my son's foo

[AFMUG] OT: Speed timing system

2016-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I am looking to purchase a simple speed timing system (wireless or wired) for my son's football team. It doesn't have to be "track" accurate, nor will it be used for any competitions. I am just trying to find a simple, automatic way for them to time the 40 yard dash for the players. Right

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson
We always kept our NOC temps around 72-74F... mainly because that would give us time if an A/C unit failed (or switched off due to power failure, etc.) to get physically to the NOC before temps reached above 100F (which did happen a few times in my 16 years). Servers start shutting down when th

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
OK good to know On May 11, 2016 8:46 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Nope, you need a business itinerant license to use the itinerant channels. > I believe it falls under Part 90 LMR. There's no frequency coordination > because obviously everything is shared. WISPs should be used to that though. >

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
Nope, you need a business itinerant license to use the itinerant channels. I believe it falls under Part 90 LMR. There's no frequency coordination because obviously everything is shared. WISPs should be used to that though. There are dozens of schools and stuff around here that bought and use

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Bill Prince
I think the tube is not pressurized, but evacuated; or at least partially evacuated. Air gets in the way... bp On 5/11/2016 5:49 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: What could possibly go wrong with a 750 MPH train in a pressurized plastic tube elevated above the ground in a major earthquake zone? On

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Not for iterant frequencies I think. On May 11, 2016 8:11 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > related question do these require a license ? > > if yes, what is involved in getting one ? > > Thanks. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 551

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
related question do these require a license ? if yes, what is involved in getting one ? Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Lewis Be

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Guess no one but me remembers Forbidden Planet? Just about everything in that movie is around today... On May 11, 2016 7:51 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > We just need Futurama transport tubes. > > On 5/11/2016 8:47 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > > OOO...even better. > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
We just need Futurama transport tubes. On 5/11/2016 8:47 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: OOO...even better. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: not pressurized, near-vaccum evacuated (about the same air pressure as 48 km high in the atmosphe

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Cameron Crum
OOO...even better. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > not pressurized, near-vaccum evacuated (about the same air pressure as 48 > km high in the atmosphere). > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > >> What could possibly go wrong with a 750 MPH train in

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
not pressurized, near-vaccum evacuated (about the same air pressure as 48 km high in the atmosphere). On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > What could possibly go wrong with a 750 MPH train in a pressurized plastic > tube elevated above the ground in a major earthquake zone? > >

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
Master has given Dobby a new radio! Master has set Dobby f!!! On May 11, 2016 7:51 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > Is that like Dobby the elf? > > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > >> The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as they are >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Exactly.. but stop making sense On May 11, 2016 6:50 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > What could possibly go wrong with a 750 MPH train in a pressurized plastic > tube elevated above the ground in a major earthquake zone? > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> 0 to 400 mph

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Listen, those pieces of crap are so cheap i can't be bothered to check spelling. On Wed, May 11, 2016, 7:51 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > Is that like Dobby the elf? > > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > >> The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as th

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
But circular aka round is an ellipse. How about obtuse waveguide instead? :) On 5/11/2016 7:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I use “round” “eliptical” “rectangular” and “ridged” when referring to waveguide. *From:* Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:39 PM *To

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Cameron Crum
Is that like Dobby the elf? On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as they are > so cheap I'd they are dropped you dobby even have to look for it. Be > careful to get the fcc certified ones as not all are certified

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Cameron Crum
What could possibly go wrong with a 750 MPH train in a pressurized plastic tube elevated above the ground in a major earthquake zone? On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop > > http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
The Baofung are actually decent for something like tower work as they are so cheap I'd they are dropped you dobby even have to look for it. Be careful to get the fcc certified ones as not all are certified that are sold here. On Wed, May 11, 2016, 1:38 PM George Skorup wrote: > You can get a 6p

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I use “round” “eliptical” “rectangular” and “ridged” when referring to waveguide. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model Yes, this is why I use the term 'cylindrical' for the pipe shaped physical waveguide interface, wh

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Robert Andrews
Exactly... Hence our love for the old MAE East... On 05/11/2016 04:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Parking garages are generally hotter then hell or balls cold in my experience. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
Thanks. It's been so long, but I remember the old Trango S2 antennas have/had a circular port so all you have to do is rotate the ODU -/+ 90 degrees to select V or H. On 5/11/2016 3:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I found an old email from Ray at Trango saying all circular except for 6 GHz is rectang

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Parking garages are generally hotter then hell or balls cold in my experience. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The temperature sensor location on a 6503/6506/6509 isn't really a

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Yes, this is why I use the term 'cylindrical' for the pipe shaped physical waveguide interface, which helps to avoid confusion with things like circular polarity (C-band satellite waveguide / BUC / LNB stuff, etc). On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Circular interface, not c

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
Circular interface, not circular polarity. On 5/11/2016 3:00 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I am fairly certain that a Trango Apex Plus licensed band radio is single polarity. Whether its waveguide interface is cylindrical or rectangular, not totally sure. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:49 PM, George Sko

Re: [AFMUG] Large panel

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes I forgot on second shot.. sorry On May 11, 2016 4:32 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Focus! > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:12 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Large panel > > > Installed panel into enclosure...need electricians to finish on MCC in

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The temperature sensor location on a 6503/6506/6509 isn't really at the 'raw' air intake, so it's showing warmer than it should be, but yes that cabinet gets warm... It's a couple of hundred watts heat load in a ventilated box. I would estimate the actual intake air temperature if you were to meas

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
104F air intake? No way!!! On May 11, 2016 7:15 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Here's a chart from 2014, it's the air intake temperature sensor for a > cisco 6503 in a wall mounted cabinet 9' in the air in a parking garage. The > daily cycles are the ambient air temperature in the garage changing. >

[AFMUG] OT: 0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
0 to 400 mph in two seconds: Welcome to the age of hyperloop http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/05/11/hyperloop-one-debuts-future-tech-nevada-desert/84236120/

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Keefe John
We do 75 degrees On 5/11/2016 5:51 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: This is related to the lubricant that is used in the drives. Seagate is to blame.. They discovered higher spindle speeds require lubricants that like higher temps... There is a secondary effect due to the way that magnetized m

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Robert Andrews
This is related to the lubricant that is used in the drives. Seagate is to blame.. They discovered higher spindle speeds require lubricants that like higher temps... There is a secondary effect due to the way that magnetized materials flip and hold at higher temps. Again, my data may be

Re: [AFMUG] Large panel

2016-05-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Focus! From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:12 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large panel Installed panel into enclosure...need electricians to finish on MCC in front of panel so we can start wiring this thing up...all those wires will end up on our panel On May 1

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere there is a rotating media study that shows they last longer at higher temps. Who woulda thunk. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://rfexplorer.com/models/ Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > We use NetSpot and a laptop. Works great. > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > >> Anyone ever found anything that’ll do heatmappin

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
There have been some fairly large data set studies done shown that air intake temperature for huge numbers of servers, at 77-78F does not correlate with a statistically significant rate of failure. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/09/18/intel-servers-do-fine-with-outside-air/ http

Re: [AFMUG] BBDGE bulk discount?

2016-05-11 Thread Jesse DuPont
The last roll we bought was from Platt.com and their price shipped was as good as any I've seen. I imagine if you're buying that much, they'd discount further. They had it drop shipped straight from Superior Essex and it came fairly quickly.

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
I have a jacket I leave in the data room. Thankfully our noc is a different building from retail. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and > it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I

[AFMUG] BBDGE bulk discount?

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Anybody know if theres much discount in small bulk like 5-7k feet (5-7 rolls) and if so whos got the goodest bestward pricing on a bulk shipment -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m not sure you can answer the question without knowing the max heat load per cabinet and how you manage airflow in the cabinets. AFAIK it used to be standard practice to keep data centers as cold as possible without requiring people to wear parkas, but energy efficiency is a consideration now

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Insurance?

2016-05-11 Thread Christopher Gray
The preliminary response from The Hartford was that I needed a contractor to do any on-tower work. I'm still waiting on some feedback there. I'll check if liability already covers it for me. It would be great if it did.. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Travelers does our

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
62 to 72 is all I was looking for, just curious =) Thanks for the quick answers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Depends on where the temperature sensors are? If we're talking

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Depends on where the temperature sensors are? If we're talking about colocation type cabinets with front-to-rear airflow, and mesh doors on both ends, air intake temperature should be around 20C on the intake side. Or open two-post/relay racks in a room? Hot aisle/cold aisle separated, or everyt

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear in the racks anyway On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Just curious what the

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges. However... http://www.geek.com/chips/googles-most-efficient-data-center-runs-at-95-degrees-1478473/ On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice > bu

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Larry Smith
On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote: > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice > building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor). I try to keep my NOC room at about 62F, that puts many of the CPU's at 83 to 90F. Many of the bigger pl

[AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We use NetSpot and a laptop. Works great. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > Anyone ever found anything that’ll do heatmapping for under $500? Every > solution I’ve found that does so effectively is upwards of a grand. > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > Veloci

Re: [AFMUG] pitched roof mounts

2016-05-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Isn’t that what got Ben Hur in trouble? From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pitched roof mounts We have red ceramic tiles and we use gym shoes on them. The still break. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Original message --

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Chris Wright
Anyone ever found anything that’ll do heatmapping for under $500? Every solution I’ve found that does so effectively is upwards of a grand. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I found an old email from Ray at Trango saying all circular except for 6 GHz is rectangular. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model Trango ApexPlus which I believe is circular? Anybody know?

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Muehleisen
It ships with a 12" extension cable. Hasn't been a problem so far. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The software features there look cool and all, but to me it looks like a > guaranteed "fuck, we bent it and broke the thing off in the Lightning port" > problem that will dest

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The software features there look cool and all, but to me it looks like a guaranteed "fuck, we bent it and broke the thing off in the Lightning port" problem that will destroy the spectrum analyzer and the ipad/iphone. The whole fat dongle just hangs out of the lightning port? On Wed, May 11, 201

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I am fairly certain that a Trango Apex Plus licensed band radio is single polarity. Whether its waveguide interface is cylindrical or rectangular, not totally sure. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:49 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Trango ApexPlus which I believe is circular? Anybody know? > > On 5/11/201

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
Trango ApexPlus which I believe is circular? Anybody know? On 5/11/2016 2:40 PM, Daniel White wrote: R is Circular and RR is Rectangular. Which one you want depends on what interface is on the ODU. Usually its rectangular. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVerge

Re: [AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread Daniel White
R is Circular and RR is Rectangular. Which one you want depends on what interface is on the ODU. Usually its rectangular. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com > -Original Message- > From:

[AFMUG] Radiowaves model

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
What's the model number for a Remec interface 11GHz ODU? Is it HPx-11R or RR? I think the RR is Remec Rectangular, so I want just the R, right?

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread George Skorup
You can get a 6pk of those on Amazon for $80. But me personally, I use my Wouxun UV8D. Dual band is nice so I can monitor NOAA weather radio, local VHF public safety dispatch, etc. On 5/11/2016 9:33 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Bill Prince
For the record, we use Cobra GMRS radios, and have our $75 license (and call sign). bp On 5/11/2016 10:22 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Something like never? I wonder how often people use GMRS radios without a license? bp On 5/11/2016 10:18 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wonder how often someone g

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Bill Prince
Something like never? I wonder how often people use GMRS radios without a license? bp On 5/11/2016 10:18 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wonder how often someone gets busted for using non certified radios for FRS or for using GMRS without a license? *From:* Robbie Wright

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I wonder how often someone gets busted for using non certified radios for FRS or for using GMRS without a license? From: Robbie Wright Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew? Not to play the wet blanket, but there are a f

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks. You should see something like in the attached picture... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
I think they have version that goes to 6 ghz On May 11, 2016 10:01 AM, "Eric Muehleisen" wrote: > Pretty cool little device, but it only goes to 2700 mhz > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Check out Powerful signal and get link of one they sell...go to that >> webs

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Pretty cool little device, but it only goes to 2700 mhz On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Check out Powerful signal and get link of one they sell...go to that > website and see the different models... some are a couple hundred... > On May 11, 2016 7:51 AM, "Eric Muehleisen

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Check out Powerful signal and get link of one they sell...go to that website and see the different models... some are a couple hundred... On May 11, 2016 7:51 AM, "Eric Muehleisen" wrote: > Our outside plant techs have been using WiPry spectrum analyzers with > their iPhones with great success. T

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Icom are affordable and have good range...you can even get a repeater for decent price and increase rangewe installed some VHF ones a few years ago in hunting ranch with lots of hills and valleys95% Coverage. they just ordered 12 more handhelds...before Lewis scolds me... they are easie

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to see anything in the interface. I’m going to try a packet capture and view in Wireshark. Thanks for your input. Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.c

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Robbie Wright
Not to play the wet blanket, but there are a few issues with those. One, only one Baofeng has any FCC certification, namely the UV-82C. The UV82 does not. Even then, it is only approved for the business itinerant use with FCC Part 90. Those frequencies have to be allocated and assigned to you, you

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Between towers I'm guessing? I expect you'd get similar distances being the same band. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > We have some older Motorola models (don’t know which the

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Andreas, Yes, here is the logic PBX should mark packets correctly (RTP packets as well as SIP signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE). Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the PBX) Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic fl

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Paul McCall
We have some older Motorola models (don’t know which they are) where we could talk between towers at 15 miles ☺ We purchased them over 10 years ago. They are mostly broken now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
They are 5 watts so decent output power. I have talked to guys going to the store a few miles out easily from a tower. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange -

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
9. Talk Range: 5-10 km Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > What is the range on these Justin? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson > *Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Paul McCall
What is the range on these Justin? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew? http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-BAOFENG-BF-888S-UHF-400-470MHz-5W-16CH-Ham-Two-Way-Radio

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
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Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Jerry Head
We use these: https://baofengtech.com/uv82 No Bluetooth but they do have VOX, plus FM radio to keep them company on the way up. Also cheap enough to painlessly replace when someone gets the drops. On 5/11/2016 9:19 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: Hi We have been using two way radios (consumer gra

Re: [AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
some of the best are old nextel phones put in two way mode On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: > Hi > > We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola. It is ok > to use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy for > tower crew to use. > >

[AFMUG] Good two way radios for tower crew?

2016-05-11 Thread Tushar Patel
Hi We have been using two way radios (consumer grade) by Motorola. It is ok to use but we are looking to get somethings better which makes it easy for tower crew to use. No days when we go to some department stores or Apple Store etc. all the employees their have nice head set and small talk

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Faisal, So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or layer3? Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures. Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CA

[AFMUG] Cheap, portable spectrum analysis

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Our outside plant techs have been using WiPry spectrum analyzers with their iPhones with great success. They love them. https://www.oscium.com/spectrum-analyzers/wipry-pro They now have a dualband WiPry that will be available end of June, but the price is steep at $500. https://www.oscium.com/spec

Re: [AFMUG] pitched roof mounts

2016-05-11 Thread Rory Conaway
We have red ceramic tiles and we use gym shoes on them. The still break. Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Original message From: Jaime Solorza Date: 5/10/2016 7:28 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pitched roof mounts Ceramic tile? Do you mean the brown ones

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

2016-05-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Andreas, in our network, we handle this as follows:- 1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP tags correctly. 2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP tags correctly. 3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that r