Hey all,
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3 access
points. But we want to install another 450 AP and I am loathe to use it as
will saturate the link in no time.
Looking to save the 5ghz spectrum for our AP's, I am thinking of the
AF24HD. Has anyone installed a link tha
It might work, but it's going to drop everytime someone sneezes in the
general area.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
> Hey all,
> I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3 access
> points. But we want to install another 450 AP and I am loathe to use it
More than 1.5 to /maybe /2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
...but it depends how much rain you get.
On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Hey all,
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3
access points. But we want to install another 450 AP and I am loathe
to use it as will
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
More than 1.5 to maybe 2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
...but it depends how much rain you get.
On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Hey all,
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3 access
points. But we want to
:* Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
More than 1.5 to /maybe /2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
...but it depends how much rain you get.
On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sa
Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>
> More than 1.5 to *maybe *2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
> ...but it depends how much rain you get.
>
>
> On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
z. Then you save the spectrum and have
> something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are
> maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
We do an AF24HD at 4.5 miles right now. It’s linking at 64QAM and 770Mbps FD.
It does alright, except when there’s heavy rain. We’re in the desert so there
isn’t too much of that.
-c
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> More than 1.5 to maybe 2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
> ...
I have done 18 GHz @ 7 miles several times without issue. But in Utah.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
I even feel sketchy about 18ghz at 7 miles. That's at the cusp where you have
to d
RadioMobile is free.
You can use Cambium if you want to put in all your customer data (assuming they
have a product in the same band).
From: Sam Lambie
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
I wish they had a path calc tool
It depends on your rain zone. We have a AF24 (not the HD) running ~~ 9
miles. We do get some fade in rain, but we're in a relatively mild zone.
bp
On 2/29/2016 8:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Hey all,
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3
access points. But we want to i
Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:36 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
I wish they had a path calc tool. The way they do things, it more
like put it up and pray.
On Mon, Feb 29, 201
AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
We ran a regular AF24 at 4.6 miles.� It would work fine, but would be
completely gone during any rain.
On 2/29/2016 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
RadioMobile is free.
You can use Cambium if you want to put in all your customer data (assumi
APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>
> More than 1.5 to *maybe *2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
> ...but it depend
t; *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>>
>> More than 1.5 to *maybe *2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
>> ...but it depends how much rain you get.
>>
>&
;>
>>>> I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>> have something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you
>>>> are maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>>
>>
spectrum and have
>>> something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are
>>> maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
>
GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>>> have something that works all the time. That that much more money. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> are maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*
e the spectrum and have
>> something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are
>> maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
>> *To:* af@a
hen you save the spectrum and have
>>> something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are
>>> maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February
The bigger Rx antenna on the AF24HD is helpful, but you're still severely
limited for link budget due to +0 maximum TX power and 24 GHz's atmospheric
behavior.
For $6k+ the price of an AF24HD, I would buy instead a set of SIAE
AlfoPlus2 1024QAM licensed radios in 11 or 18 GHz. At your distance wit
2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>> have something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you
>>>> are maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay
The trick is getting Mimosa to actually ship them. >.>
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:22 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Ran
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 11:22 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>
>
&
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and have
>> something that works all the time. That that much more money. If you are
>> maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licen
gt;
>>> The trick is getting Mimosa to actually ship them. >.>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>
>>
gt;
>>>
>>> Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>
>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
&
;>>>
>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>
>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>
>>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>>
>>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bou
ng Mimosa to actually ship them. >.>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Wright
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> Velociter Wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>
> North Central Tower
>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Chris Wright
>>>>>
gt;>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 11:22 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Mimosa B11 link can be done for
t;
>>>>>>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew
>>>>>>> Howard
>>>>>>
is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
I want to say the old Blackberries could do 64QAM (802.11n)?
AF5x can
ompared to the 50W of a PTP600.
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> The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
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> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Josh Luthman
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [A
t;
>> The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
>>
>>
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>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Josh Luthman
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
>> *An:
PTP600 imho. And
>>> it takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600.
>>>
>>> The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:*
t;>>> AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho.
>>>> And it takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600.
>>>>
>>>> The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
gt;>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho.
>>>>> And it takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SW is not as good. Every ch
ck. Which is
a lot for a backhaul.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Baird
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 16:45
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
Mimosa is quite good about this too. I don't see why nearly *everything*
requir
M
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
Yes. Under very good conditions 1024 QAM is possible with AF5X. With Back2Back
Sync we’ve to play with power levels of the
remote sides to keep modulations up.
AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho. And it
take
And sometime last month, and the month before that…
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range
f [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 16:59
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
and the PTP600 was what, ten years old when the AF5x came out?
-
Mike Hammett
<http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent C
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> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Josh Luthman
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>
>
>
> I want to say the old Blackberries could do 64QAM (802.11n
d to the 50W of a PTP600.
The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag
von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24
out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?
>>>>
nsed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>>> have something that works all the time. That that much more money. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> are maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.
>>>>>
>>>
gt;>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>>>> have something that works all the time. Tha
t; > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would do licensed. 11 or 18 GHz. Then you save the spectrum and
>>>>>> have something that works all the time. That that much more money. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are maxing out APs then y
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