Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber

2017-04-02 Thread Josh Luthman
o:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Sunday, April 2, 2017 9:34 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Google Fiber > > > > http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865676957/Google- > Fiber-installation-moving-at-dial-up-speeds-in-Salt-Lake-City.html >

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2017-04-02 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Sounds about right, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Google Fiber http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865676957/Google-Fiber-installation-moving-at-dial-up-speeds-in-Salt-Lake-City.html

[AFMUG] Google Fiber

2017-04-02 Thread Chuck McCown
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865676957/Google-Fiber-installation-moving-at-dial-up-speeds-in-Salt-Lake-City.html

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2016-10-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ring to prevent this problem? - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Ken, we have been doing MDUs in PR and FL for about 18 months now. WE are using AF24 units to each b

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2016-10-27 Thread Mike Hammett
y, October 27, 2016 6:48:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more That sounds like when I started in wireless 13 years ago with 2 bonded T1 lines to the tower and sold 3 Mbps service. Worked until Netflix and Youtube came along. -Original Message- From: Af [mail

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2016-10-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more On 10/27/16 10:37, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Yes, but isn’t Webpass new enough at the wireless-to-a-building thing > that they haven’t really tested what happens when adoption goes over > the first handful of customers w

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2016-10-27 Thread Gino Villarini
;mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 2:28 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guay

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2016-10-27 Thread Chuck McCown
What are you using for customer control and rate limiting? I know Netonix works well for smaller deployments. What ring protocol are you using? From: Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Ken, we have been

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2016-10-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/27/16 10:37, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yes, but isn’t Webpass new enough at the wireless-to-a-building thing that they haven’t really tested what happens when adoption goes over the first handful of customers within the building? Webpass has been doing the building MDU thing via microwave for at

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2016-10-27 Thread Gino Villarini
mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 1:37 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Yes, but isn’t Webpass new enough at the wireless-to-a-building thing that they haven’t really teste

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2016-10-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Webpass? that¹s the reason they bought it! Proven business model operating in top cities On 10/27/16, 12:27 PM, "Af on behalf of Ken Hohhof"

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2016-10-27 Thread Gino Villarini
>now sell best effort speeds. Well, to residential. Businesses may still >expect to actually get what they were promised and maybe even to actually >use it. > >-Original Message- >From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >Sent: Thursday, October 27,

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2016-10-27 Thread Gino Villarini
gt;Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:05 AM >To: af@afmug.com >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more > >I predict the PhD syndrome is going to also affect the wireless end. >Vivant >tried and failed. > >30 somethings that slept through physics are going to run up agains

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2016-10-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Google get's the gear but Alphabet controls one of the SAS Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 1:05 PM, George Skorup wrote: > So splain me this. If the google is interested in 3.5GHz, and they're also > going

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2016-10-27 Thread George Skorup
So splain me this. If the google is interested in 3.5GHz, and they're also going to run one of the SAS's... is that not a conflict of interest? I mean I'd hate to go all Trumpian about it, but they could very easily rig the system.

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2016-10-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Low-hanging fruit, MDU's. Not the same as Vivint. Vivint went into the trenches. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more The

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2016-10-27 Thread Travis Johnson
etting enough BW via microwave as well. With an apartment building with 250 people all expecting a gig, hard to do with microwave. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Microwave to MTU/

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2016-10-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
d maybe even to actually use it. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more But how about microwave to the home? That is what people expect when t

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2016-10-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
gt;> process. The employee count to deal with all of this on a large scale at >> the pace they wanted to move was not small by any stretch. >> >> >> >> This was not new news. They pulled the plug on all of this stuff back at >> the beginning of July. >

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2016-10-27 Thread Chuck McCown
with microwave. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Microwave to MTU/MDU rooftop. Proven business model. Ask Teligent, Winstar, Nextlink. In fairness, now almost 20 years later

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2016-10-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
mind. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more I predict the PhD syndrome is going to also affect the wireless end. Vivant tried and failed

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2016-10-27 Thread Chuck McCown
es RF distribution learns. 5 years they will be back to fiber. Or deciding not to be part of the transport solution. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Phd syndrome... Getting an adv

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2016-10-27 Thread Robert
m *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more As they should. Don't build where people who can't pay or don't want your service. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In

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2016-10-27 Thread Brian Webster
2016 7:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more As they should. Don't build where people who can't pay or don't want your service. - Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL

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2016-10-27 Thread Mike Hammett
nt: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:28:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more In other cities, they cherry picked. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fib

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2016-10-26 Thread Rory Conaway
In other cities, they cherry picked. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more From the director of one of the Google Fiber builds (in Provo) that is not the

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2016-10-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Absolutely they cherry picked. Then they went into MDU’s for pennies and lost their shirts. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent

[AFMUG] Google Fiber is stopping new deployments and why its Great News!

2016-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
My BLOG here: http://aeronetprceo.blogspot.com/2016/10/google-fiber-is-stopping-why-its-great.html Comments welcomed! Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

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2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think that's true. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:15:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Goo

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2016-10-25 Thread Rory Conaway
Absolutely they cherry picked. Then they went into MDU’s for pennies and lost their shirts. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more I'd love to see

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2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
> > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tushar Patel > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:14 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more > > > > Their contractor are still hiring installer in Austin. > > &g

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2016-10-25 Thread Rory Conaway
Big surprise there. They built it and no one came. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more Their contractor are still hiring installer in Austin. Need to

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2016-10-25 Thread Tushar Patel
Their contractor are still hiring installer in Austin. Need to probably understand why those cities not others? Tushar > On Oct 25, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > New ones. They're still deploying existing networks. They just opened up a > few new areas in Kansas City recently.

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2016-10-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
New ones. They're still deploying existing networks. They just opened up a few new areas in Kansas City recently. On Oct 25, 2016 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Moving folks to wireless Aye Dios > > On Oct 25, 2016 7:56 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > >> https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-ha

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2016-10-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Moving folks to wireless Aye Dios On Oct 25, 2016 7:56 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-halts-operations-in-ten- > cities-1788214992?rev=1477443092657&utm_campaign= > socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook& > utm_medium=socialflow

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2016-10-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
bloat isnt survivable? I thought that was a basic tenet of successful ventures On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-halts-operations-in-ten- > cities-1788214992?rev=1477443092657&utm_campaign= > socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_f

[AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

2016-10-25 Thread Gino Villarini
https://gizmodo.com/google-fiber-halts-operations-in-ten-cities-1788214992?rev=1477443092657&utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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2016-08-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I am talking about Eagle Mountain Utah. Lots of starter homes and super stingy young Mormon families. 85% happens. It truly does. -Original Message- From: Rory Conaway Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I

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2016-08-27 Thread Rory Conaway
, 2016 11:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information On 8/26/16 6:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > i thought it was a rooter? Only in Canada.

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2016-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
6, 2016 8:05:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information  i thought it was a rooter? - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I predict that "fiber" will soon b

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2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 6:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i thought it was a rooter? Only in Canada.

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2016-08-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i thought it was a rooter? - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I predict that "fiber" will soon be added to the list of words people use wrongly.

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
bject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information Damn. I was born and raised in Kentucky, and what you just described sounds backwoods to ME. :| On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not where I live, but where my WISP is. Which is somewhere people live if (a) they can't afford any

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2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gt; The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" >> *To:

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2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
se did it: > > https://rocketfiber.com/ > > Oh, and they're claiming 10 gig? > > https://twitter.com/search?q=%2310GintheD > > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck McCown > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:13 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFM

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2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I always said if Google Fiber wanted to prove something, they should wire Detroit. Looks like someone else did it: https://rocket

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2016-08-26 Thread Jon Bruce
2016 2:38 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information Where do you live? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: Half my customers can’t even spell Google. (No, don’t go to gog

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
e can bring up the Google website, > has no idea what we are talking about. Google? Website? > > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:38 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > Where do y

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2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ring up the Google > website, has no idea what we are talking about. Google? Website? > > > -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:38 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > Where do you live? &

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information Where do you live? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Half my customers can’t even spell Google. (No, don’t go to goggle.com) The other half think they already have Google for their Internet provider, because that’s what the sc

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
LOL From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I let Ken have all the dumb ones. I take the smart ones. He has more customers than me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange

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2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
August 26, 2016 2:38:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information Where do you live? On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Half my customers can’t even spell Google. (No, don’t go to goggle.com) > > The other half think they already have Google for thei

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2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 11:58, Gino Villarini wrote: wireless fiber is the new term been used! Google approved fiber optic antenna

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
on Internet. > > > From: Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:14 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > You need to be Google for that. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information You need to be Google for that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: 85% is certainly realistic from my experience. -Original

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
ike someone else did it: > > https://rocketfiber.com/ > > Oh, and they're claiming 10 gig? > > https://twitter.com/search?q=%2310GintheD > > > -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:13 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > S

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2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I dunno about that hashtag... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:24:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber i

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
st 26, 2016 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information 85% is certainly realistic from my experience. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I personally know o

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2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
No, you don’t From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information You need to be Google for that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
ynolds >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:16 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information >> >> I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I >> have heard they have many areas with 85%+ take rate, and that the &

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
ds > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:16 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I > have heard they have many areas with 85%+ take rate, and that the > original free/low-cost tier is a

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
s-to-cut-costs-4017742 >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Adam Moffett >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> "The slow pace of digging up streets to install fiber is the primary >>>> contributor." >>>> >>>> All the f

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2016-08-26 Thread Chuck McCown
85% is certainly realistic from my experience. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I have heard they have many

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2016-08-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
t as easy as they thought. I >>> think almost anybody who ever started an ISP found out it wasn't as easy as >>> they thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. >>> >>> Which part is BS? >>> >>> >>> --

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2016-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
;> contributor." >> >> All the facts really say is that it's not as easy as they thought. I >> think almost anybody who ever started an ISP found out it wasn't as easy as >> they thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. >> >>

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2016-08-26 Thread Dan Petermann
t; almost anybody who ever started an ISP found out it wasn't as easy as they >> thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. >> >> Which part is BS? >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Sterling Jacobson&qu

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2016-08-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
. > > > -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:07 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > On 8/26/16 08:47, Bill Prince wrote: > >> Someone please explain what a "fiber optic antenna&qu

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2016-08-26 Thread Jason McKemie
satellite". Oh, and people > say modem when they mean router, which Google Fiber avoided by giving you a > "Network Box". > > > -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:07 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] G

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2016-08-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
hings like "I got new WiFi, now I have a fiber satellite". Oh, and people say modem when they mean router, which Google Fiber avoided by giving you a "Network Box". -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Sub

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2016-08-26 Thread Jason McKemie
t; you can be the cheapest and it still takes a massive marketing effort to >> get 50% to switch. >> >> Rory >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:16 AM >

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2016-08-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
o ever started an ISP found out it wasn't as easy as >> they thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. >> � >> Which part is BS? >> � >> � >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" < sterl...@

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2016-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
ing effort to get 50% to switch. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
lto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 7:16 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I have > heard they have many areas with 85%+ take ra

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2016-08-26 Thread Carlos Alcantar
2016 9:47:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I think it’s definitely market dependent. I have MDU areas which are more transient and possibly lower income that the take rate hovers around 50 percent. Then I have affluent neighborhoods where the take rate is ne

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2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 09:33, Mike Hammett wrote: but you're not selling fiber, you're not Google and I bet there aren't droves of people willing to fellate you for your service. That's what Google Fiber has going for it. They don't even need to be selling fiber, the Google name is enough.

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2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
, August 26, 2016 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information but you're not selling fiber, you're not Google and I bet there aren't droves of people willing to fellate you for your service. That's what Google Fiber has going for it. - Mike

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2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:31:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I wouldn't believe that for a minute. I've got a couple areas that we are doing marketing testing in, muc

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2016-08-26 Thread Rory Conaway
2016 7:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I personally know one of their original engineers for Kansas City. I have heard they have many areas with 85%+ take rate, and that the original free/low-cost tier is a very small percentage in these areas. On Fri, Aug

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2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
What facts? The facts they state are layoffs due to speculation of number of customers being lower than target. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information "The slow

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2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Hate* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:27:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information Impress

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2016-08-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I have cones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:27:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information

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2016-08-26 Thread Robert Andrews
son" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I would like to know what their take rate is in percentage for a given are

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2016-08-26 Thread Robert Andrews
m: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I would like to know what their take rate is in percentage for a given area(s). That number they report

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2016-08-26 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/26/16 08:47, Bill Prince wrote: Someone please explain what a "fiber optic antenna" is? /"Alphabet is also actively exploring how it can solve the cost of laying cable through using less expensive technology and existing infrastructure. Last month Google acquired Webpass, a company that use

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2016-08-26 Thread Nate Burke
rl...@avative.net>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I would like to know what their take rate is in percentage for a given area(s). That number

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2016-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
y thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. >> >> Which part is BS? >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" >> To: "af@afmug.com" >> Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFM

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2016-08-26 Thread Bill Prince
as easy as they thought, and that plans don't survive contact with reality. Which part is BS? -- Original Message -- From: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.c

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2016-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
Which part is BS? >> >> >> ------ Original Message -- >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" >> To: "af@afmug.com" >> Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information >> >> >> I would like to

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2016-08-26 Thread Gino Villarini
-- Original Message -- > From: "Sterling Jacobson" > To: "af@afmug.com" > Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information > > > I would like to know what their take rate is in percentage for a given > area(s). > >

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2016-08-26 Thread Adam Moffett
vive contact with reality. Which part is BS? -- Original Message -- From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/26/2016 10:11:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information I would like to know what their take rate is in percentage for a given area(s

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
tive of anything other than the job >> > is >> > done and now they maintain. >> > >> > >> > >> > I call BS on this article. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

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2016-08-26 Thread Joe Novak
off may not actually be indicative of anything other than the job > is > > done and now they maintain. > > > > > > > > I call BS on this article. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conawa

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2016-08-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
icative of anything other than the job is done and now they maintain. I call BS on this article. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Google Fiber information https://www.dslreports.com/shown

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2016-08-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
; > The layoff may not actually be indicative of anything other than the job is > done and now they maintain. > > > > I call BS on this article. > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway > Sent: Friday, August 26, 201

[AFMUG] Google Fiber information

2016-08-25 Thread Rory Conaway
https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Report-Google-Fiber-to-Cut-Staff-After-User-Totals-Disappoint-137750 Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
de-railed - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? What happened to this thread Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I need a big turnaround or two like those lol - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Yup .. and I sold out after much debate….$808 a share - originally bought

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2016-08-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
- Original Message - >> *From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >>

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2016-08-12 Thread Robert Andrews
hursday, August 11, 2016 7:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/10/investing/google-alphabet-all-time-high/ "Shares of Google parent company Alphabet (GOOGL, Tech30) hit an all-time high Tuesday of more than $813 a share. The

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2016-08-12 Thread Robert Andrews
to die off. Or that Verizon will buy AOL and Yahoo. Now pardon me while I drive to the mall and shop at Monkey Wards. *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 11:20 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

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