[AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now? And what is the likelihood any product I bought from a distributor today would support this band out of the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti? You'd think Ubiquiti would have this

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, they should all support UNII-1 with 5.6.3, but you will need a key. I'd be surprised if they are shipping with 5.6.3 yet, but I guess they might be unlocked... I would think they'd have the new FCC IDs on them by now. On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Does anybody know i

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
Only the world version supports it. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow 5150-5250 MHz > with release firmware now? And what is the likelihood any product I bought > from a distributor today

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
4:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Only the world version supports it. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware no

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
ass, that just reflects badly on me for using > their equipment. > > > > -Original Message- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > Only

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
up their ass, that just reflects badly on > me for using their equipment. > > > > -Original Message- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > >

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
t. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net >> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >> >> >> Only the world version

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
t;> >>> -----Original Message- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>> >>> >>> Only the world version

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
em with something else. I don't know how to >>>> explain to a customer that I can't order equipment for their service >>>> because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just reflects badly on >>>> me for using their equipment. >>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
gt; because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just reflects badly on >>>> me for using their equipment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16,

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
ving the middle finger to the US >>>>>> market. I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and PTP >>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something else. I >>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
ths. Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle finger to the US >>>>>> market. I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and PTP >>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something else. I >>>>>> don't

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or they don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t give me something to pour on my cereal. From: Ben Moore Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Hi

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
they > don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t give me > something to pour on my cereal. > > > *From:* Ben Moore > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > &

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Jeremy
t; *From:* Ben Moore > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > Hi Guys - > > The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in. Same w it AC gear. > > Thanks, > Ben >

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
. I don't know >> how to explain to a customer that I can't order equipment for their service >> because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just reflects badly on >> me for using their equipment. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- From: j

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
install off a Rocket M5 AP we installed 8 >>>> months ago. >>>> >>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me the >>>> farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or they >>>> don’t.

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
won’t work? I’m assuming you are talking >about M not AC which would be on airOS 7.x, right? From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 We upgraded to the 5.6.3 and tried using

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Joe Novak
d.net > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:42 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > We upgraded to the 5.6.3 and tried using a key it says the powerbeam > doesn't qualify. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
date that I have to retract. I guess the safe approach would be a Rocket M5 with a Rocket dish, but I don’t really want to put that on a customer’s house. From: Joe Novak Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 I

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Joe Novak
ach would be > a Rocket M5 with a Rocket dish, but I don’t really want to put that on a > customer’s house. > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > I h

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
t; >>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me the >>>>> farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or they >>>>> don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t give >>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
is a radio I can buy from my distributor and send out with an >>>> installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we installed 8 months >>>> ago. >>>> >>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me the >>>> fa

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
oBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guys - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in. Same w it AC gear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
;>>> send >>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we >>>>> installed 8 months ago. >>>>> >>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me the >>>>> farmer has bought

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread jaldridge
t;>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in. I want to >>>>>>>>> know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to >>>>>>>>> latest released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the >>>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Ben Moore
e if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band. >>>>>> That’s all that matters to me. Anything else is your internal process to >>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor and >>>>>> send >>>>>> out

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread James Craig
>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor and >>>>> send >>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we >>>>> installed 8 months ago. >>>>> >>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread John Woodfield
ay, December 16, 2015 3:29pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Hi Guys, There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The older unlock is from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation. Those keys will not unlock PowerBea

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-16 Thread Mathew Howard
> >>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in. I want to >>>>>> know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to latest >>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band. >>&

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread John Woodfield
ot;James Craig" <[ ja...@ubnt.com ]( mailto:ja...@ubnt.com )> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm To: [ af@afmug.com ]( mailto:af@afmug.com ) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Hi Guys, There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The ol

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
> > > -Original Message- > From: "Mathew Howard" > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm > To: "af" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower th

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Josh Luthman
President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -----Original Message- > From: "Mathew Howard" > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm > To: "af" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > Yes,

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
gt; >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:14, John Woodfield >> wrote: >> >> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX >> power. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield,

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Mathew Howard
d, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Mathew Howard" > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm > To: "af" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > Y

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Mathew Howard
nt from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:14, John Woodfield >> wrote: >> >> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX >> power. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
;> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: "Mathew Howard" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm >> To: "af" >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >> >> Yes,

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
;> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Mathew Howard" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm >> To: "af"

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Jeremy
dfield, President >>> >>> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >>> >>> 410-870-WiFi >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: "Mathew Howard" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm >>> To: &

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
you... if a link is questionable, I would >>>> just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before >>>> you do anything. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield < >>>> john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz&g

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Jeremy
can use the key again to get the higher >>>>> Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link >>>>> when >>>>> the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I would >>>>> just try lowering the tx

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Keefe John
From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Jeremy
t;>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not >>>>>>>>> uploaded yet). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard < >

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Keefe John
From: "Mathew Howard" mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Mathew Howard
t;>>> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... >>>>>> so it is a pretty huge drop. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield < >>>>>> john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wr

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Mike Hammett
al Message - From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot get the powerbeams to work at all. Sent from my i

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread George Skorup
- *From: *jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:13:30 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot get the powerbeams to work at all. Sent from my iPhone On D

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
dri...@totalhighspeed.net > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:13:30 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 > > We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot > get the powerbeams to work at all. > &

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-22 Thread James Craig
n there's a new key for the new gear >> (PowerBeam, I assume the AC stuff, etc.) >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> -------------- >> *From: *jaldri.

Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

2015-12-22 Thread Glen Waldrop
:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 Here's our internally compiled list (xx shows which channels weren't available or aren't available post activation): Based on a radio with a 25dBi dish (Nanobridge M5-25 or PowerBeam M5-400) you