Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-28 Thread Robert Andrews
tian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal?

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2017-11-28 Thread Carl Peterson
nd not resell it as a drivable vehicle. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com >>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. &g

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2017-11-27 Thread Jason McKemie
Christian (List Account) >> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts >> Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? >> I found the article about the theft, and I agree...

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2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
huck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thef

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2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
me and be remotely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd...

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2017-11-27 Thread Paul McCall
That’s the best (funniest) answer yet. Oceans 11 type stuff From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts or if you were an organized auto theft gang with a flatbed tow truck

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2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
it for parts fairly quickly and not resell it as a drivable > vehicle. > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. >> >> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)

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2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. >> >> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) >> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM >> *To:* af >> *Sub

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2017-11-27 Thread Bill Prince
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd... On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: In SLC, someone broke into the show

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2017-11-27 Thread Robert Andrews
ely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd... On

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2017-11-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
November 27, 2017 1:28 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts > > Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? > > I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd... > > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Chuck McCown <ch

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2017-11-27 Thread Jay Weekley
urke *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 9:02 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Can't they just drive themselves back to the dealer? On 11/27/2017 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sen

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2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Better yet, drive up under the second story you are waiting to jump from when you whistle. Of course it will have to be a convertible. From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Can't they just drive themselves back

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2017-11-27 Thread Nate Burke
Can't they just drive themselves back to the dealer? On 11/27/2017 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't

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2017-11-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I am sure they can phone home and be remotely disabled. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:28 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree

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2017-11-27 Thread Josh Luthman
No more than any other high end make? Rip out the GPS antenna and you're set. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Aren't teslas one of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Aren't teslas one of the more stupid vehicles to try to steal? I found the article about the theft, and I agree... odd... On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > In SLC, someone broke into the showroom and made off with 4 Teslas. > > Here is an snip from a

[AFMUG] OT Tesla Thefts

2017-11-25 Thread Chuck McCown
In SLC, someone broke into the showroom and made off with 4 Teslas. Here is an snip from a newspaper story quoting cops about the theft: We are still trying to sort this out,” Keller said. “We actually have two people claiming their name is Tesla and a family member died and left them these

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2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway
I resemble that remark. With luck and budget, may hit 200mph for 90 miles on a public road within the next 18 months. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:46 PM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla You driv

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2017-03-20 Thread Mathew Howard
--- > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Monday, March 20, 2017 5:46:26 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > You drive more than 130mph often? > > On Mon, Mar 20, 201

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2017-03-20 Thread Bill Prince
ll your credits each March so no incentive to overbuild. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Not here. In California, grid-tied

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2017-03-20 Thread Mike Hammett
> wrote: We don't get monetary credit. Just kWh credit and if you are a net producer you lose all your credits each March so no incentive to overbuild. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Not

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2017-03-20 Thread Mathew Howard
etary credit. Just kWh credit and if you are a net >> producer you lose all your credits each March so no incentive to overbuild. >> >> -Original Message- From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:01 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AF

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2017-03-20 Thread Jason McKemie
','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck > McCown > *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 2:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > > > Yep, but there is a free one just down the road from me.

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2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway
Not any more for new Tesla owners…. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Yep, but there is a free one just down the road from me. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017

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2017-03-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, but there is a free one just down the road from me. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla 40A is what’s necessary for the 8 hour chargers. Want to charge your 100kWh Tesla in a few hours, spend about $10K

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2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway
, March 20, 2017 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla 220/221 30 amp at least. I think I would wire a 40 or 50 amp circuit for it. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla For you guys wit

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2017-03-20 Thread Chuck McCown
220/221 30 amp at least. I think I would wire a 40 or 50 amp circuit for it. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla For you guys with your fancy electric cars. I don't have one, Not sure I'll ever get one. But I am building

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2017-03-20 Thread Lewis Bergman
com> wrote: > E=MC^2 I think probably has a tad more energy than just the M... > > -Original Message- > From: Robert > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:33 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > It was a joke about the "Solar System"

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2017-03-20 Thread Chuck McCown
E=MC^2 I think probably has a tad more energy than just the M... -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla It was a joke about the "Solar System" and as such is a birthright... On 3/20/17 9:0

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2017-03-20 Thread Robert
- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential... On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the

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2017-03-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
--Original Message- From: Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:01 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > Not here. > > In California, grid-tied solar buys electricity from the grid (when the > site needs it) at retail prices, but sells it ba

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2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway
: [AFMUG] OT Tesla My solar system stores energy in the form of gravity potential... On 3/20/17 5:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill. So I can > use it anytime of day. > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:2

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2017-03-20 Thread Chuck McCown
We don't get monetary credit. Just kWh credit and if you are a net producer you lose all your credits each March so no incentive to overbuild. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Not here

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2017-03-20 Thread Bill Prince
*From:* Rory Conaway *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car owners. Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than what you probably do. We probably cha

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2017-03-20 Thread Paul Stewart
s credit on the bill. So I can >> use it anytime of day. >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla >> >> >> Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special prog

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2017-03-20 Thread Robert
: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car owners. Most of my wife’s driving is 70mph or less and more city driving than what you probably do. We probably charge 50 miles per day average and the car gets about 3.5-4m per kWh. Our worst rate

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2017-03-20 Thread Chuck McCown
My solar system stores excess energy as credit on the bill. So I can use it anytime of day. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Our rate is 5.9 cents per kWh under a special program for electric car owners. Most

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2017-03-20 Thread Rory Conaway
kWh on peak during the week. Solar doesn’t help us in charging since the care is gone at 7:30am and doesn’t get home until after 6:30. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I am

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2017-03-19 Thread Chuck McCown
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla So after 2 days with the Leaf and the 30Kw battery, our estimate is that it’s actually underrated or they have found other ways to save power. I definitely notice more aggressive regen control on eco mode but we are seeing 120-125 mile on the display

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2017-03-19 Thread Rory Conaway
: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software... From: can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I highly doubt people were

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2017-03-18 Thread Jason McKemie
That makes sense. On Saturday, March 18, 2017, Mathew Howard wrote: > According to what I was reading, the original 60kWh, which was > discontinued in 2015 had a 60kWh battery, but the current 2016/2017 60kWh > model is a software limited 75kWh battery. So no, not just

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2017-03-18 Thread Mathew Howard
According to what I was reading, the original 60kWh, which was discontinued in 2015 had a 60kWh battery, but the current 2016/2017 60kWh model is a software limited 75kWh battery. So no, not just pending or new orders, but not all of the 60kWh cars either. On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Jason

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2017-03-18 Thread Jason McKemie
I don't think the current 60kWh models on the road have a 75kWh battery, but any orders pending or new orders from now until they discontinue that option will be a software limited 75kWh model. At least that is what I got from reading the email.

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2017-03-18 Thread Robert Andrews
ing they can upgrade a battery with software... *From:* can...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this will hurt sales? They

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2017-03-18 Thread Josh Luthman
n upgrade a battery with software... > > *From:* can...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this will > hurt sales? The

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2017-03-18 Thread chuck
outside. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla They must figure if you get stuck somewhere, you are willing to pay $10K to get moving again. We are replacing our Leaf this weekend with another Leaf and the rebates are insane

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2017-03-18 Thread Mathew Howard
rch 18, 2017 10:06 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla > > I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this will > hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X. > Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap? > > On Sat,

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2017-03-18 Thread Rory Conaway
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software... From: can...@believewireless.net<mailto:can...@believewireless.net> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017

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2017-03-18 Thread Eric Rogers
That might be a big download... Eric Rogers www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I find it interesting they can upgrade

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2017-03-18 Thread Robert
-- *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:33:10 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT Tesla Interesting note from Tesla this morning: Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will have until April 16, 2017 to place

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2017-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
I find it interesting they can upgrade a battery with software... From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this will hurt sales? They already did

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2017-03-18 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I highly doubt people were just buying the 75 as they say. Think this will hurt sales? They already did this to the Model X. Or are they hoping the Model 3 will fill the gap? On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Interesting note from Tesla this morning: > >

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2017-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
3:10 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Tesla Interesting note from Tesla this morning: Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over the air update.

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2017-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Interesting note from Tesla this morning: Customers who still want the opportunity to own a 60 kWh Model S will have until April 16, 2017 to place their order. Any 60 kWh Model S will have the ability to upgrade their battery to 75 kWh via an over the air update.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash

2016-12-30 Thread chuck
Yes, I am a pilot. In smaller airplanes I am normally the driver. In larger ones I can get up and go to the can. Problem solved. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash Don't you fly? I would think it's

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2016-12-30 Thread Josh Luthman
2016 4:46 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash > > > I saw a mock-up that had 16 or 24 or something passengers. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 12/29/2016 3:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Not sure wh

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2016-12-30 Thread Joshua Heide
test From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 5:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash Maybe it will never be built, but everything that people worry about on its design has been said about airplanes

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2016-12-30 Thread Craig Schmaderer
9, 2016 7:54:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash The way that thing goes, you'll never be in it for more than 45 minutes. And of course... Nothing can go wrong. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/29/2016 5:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have never b

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2016-12-29 Thread Bill Prince
I want to be able to get up and go to the can or get off the train to go to the can. I also want to be able to walk away from an accident or malfunction if I am able. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and cr

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2016-12-29 Thread Chuck McCown
: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash I saw a mock-up that had 16 or 24 or something passengers. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/29/2016 3:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not sure where Musk�s hyperloop

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2016-12-29 Thread Bill Prince
I saw a mock-up that had 16 or 24 or something passengers. bp On 12/29/2016 3:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not sure where Musk�s hyperloop falls on this continuum. Does he envision 1-person canisters? I thought it was more like a train car. If they just stuffed

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2016-12-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
it was more like a train car. If they just stuffed one person in each canister, it would be like the tubes at bank drive-throughs. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla

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2016-12-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
a convertible with the top down. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash I drive 49 miles X 2 4 days a week. Leaf was perfect for that. I have

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2016-12-29 Thread Craig Schmaderer
re expensive version. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash I drive 60 miles to work for the past 15 years. Its on my list to buy, just not ready to drop that much cash. Maybe get a used one in a year or 2.

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2016-12-29 Thread Bill Prince
lane tracking assist in the more expensive version. *From:* Craig Schmaderer *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash I drive 60 miles to work for the past 15 years. Its on my list to buy, just not ready to drop that muc

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2016-12-29 Thread chuck
Schmaderer Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash I drive 60 miles to work for the past 15 years. Its on my list to buy, just not ready to drop that much cash. Maybe get a used one in a year or 2. I go 68 mph with no stop lights

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2016-12-29 Thread Craig Schmaderer
now. ;) From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 10:12:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash Is that why customers keep calling about problems with

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2016-12-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
they call those dishwashers On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > But doesnt it take the fun out of driving? Next you guys will want > automatons for your wifeys > > On Dec 28, 2016 8:29 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > >> On

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2016-12-29 Thread Josh Luthman
The Q50 had the self driving features before Tesla. It works better, too. The S class is pretty good, but you have to touch the steering wheel occasionallyor tape a Coke to it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 28,

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2016-12-29 Thread Lewis Bergman
This is a great commuter function. Same route every day makes for boredom, inattentiveness, and accidents. On Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 11:48 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > I get bored driving automatics... > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Seth Mattinen >

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2016-12-28 Thread Mathew Howard
I get bored driving automatics... On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 12/28/16 7:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >> But doesnt it take the fun out of driving? Next you guys will want >> automatons for your wifeys >> >> > > Depends on where you're

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2016-12-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:04 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash > > On 12/28/16 7:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > But doesnt it take the fun out of driving? Next you guys will want > > automatons for your wifeys > > >

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2016-12-28 Thread Chuck McCown
I would take a nap. (Have done so inadvertently in an airplane before). -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash On 12/28/16 7:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: But doesnt

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2016-12-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/28/16 7:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: But doesnt it take the fun out of driving? Next you guys will want automatons for your wifeys Depends on where you're driving. On mountain roads a stick shift is fun. Around town is fine too. Congested freeway traffic in California is not fun. If

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2016-12-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
But doesnt it take the fun out of driving? Next you guys will want automatons for your wifeys On Dec 28, 2016 8:29 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 12/28/16 7:28 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: > >> The autopilot is the main reason I'd buy a Tesla. It's pretty amazing

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash

2016-12-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/28/16 7:28 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: The autopilot is the main reason I'd buy a Tesla. It's pretty amazing stuff. Just don't watch a movie while using it. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash

2016-12-28 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The autopilot is the main reason I'd buy a Tesla. It's pretty amazing stuff. On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:08 PM, wrote: > I am surprised at the fact that the autopilot was a good 1-2 seconds ahead > of myself noticing anything wrong. > I can only guess that the radar was tracking

[AFMUG] OT Tesla autopilot and crash

2016-12-28 Thread chuck
I am surprised at the fact that the autopilot was a good 1-2 seconds ahead of myself noticing anything wrong. I can only guess that the radar was tracking the car ahead of the red one and knew that the red one was closing on it. I think that perhaps there was a reflection from the car ahead of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Rory Conaway
Depends on the standard you are using. EPA measurements would be as high as 330 miles. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla 85... now you are talking. 200 miles... From

[AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell... makes you wonder how much longer that can continue? They are also having to support all their Super charging stations across the country (at no additional cost for customers), etc. It's a great concept, and a great

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Nate Burke
, the range is 60 miles or less. *From:* Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Do I remember that you don't use your at all in the winter? How does it do in the cold with the heater

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
, August 10, 2015 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla How accurate is the battery meter? Is it like my phone in the cold where as soon as I go to use it, it goes from Full charge to empty. Does it give you a range at projected speed, or just a %? On 8/10/2015 3:17 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Rory Conaway
: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Yeah, but downhill is cheating... I'm guessing you use more than 3% going the other direction? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Nope, I can end up with more energy at the bottom of a long hill every day when I go

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
at the bottom of a long hill every day when I go home. Generally I have about 62% left and 3 miles later it is 65% due to the regen braking. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Every time you

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Paul Stewart
it haha ;) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Hi, The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell... makes you wonder how much longer

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Model X is supposed to sell as much if not more. For less money, too. It was supposed to be this month or next and it got pushed back. With OPM you can do anything forever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla What are you getting now? The 2017 should get 120 from a couple of articles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
I use it year around. When it gets down to zero outside, the range is 60 miles or less. From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Do I remember that you don't use your at all in the winter? How does it do in the cold

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Josh Luthman
: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla What are you getting now? The 2017 should get 120 from a couple of articles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Do we know yet what

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
and indicate we’d better go back. Oh, and Timmy’s in the well. Unfortunately both dogs since have been dumb as posts. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla I don’t use the projected range meter at all. I use the battery % meter

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Today's Bizarro comic is about eco friendly vehicles: -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla What I don't understand is why don't they increase the price by $4k then ? They are expensive

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Josh Luthman
to the regen braking. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Every time you hit breaks you're pissing away energy. Now with a lot of hybrid/electric cars you see some recovery to the batteries

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
But I charge at both ends. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Yeah, but downhill is cheating... I'm guessing you use more than 3% going the other direction? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Rory Conaway
it and with the cost of the plant, he is going to need it. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla What I don't understand is why don't they increase

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Hi, The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell... makes you wonder how much longer that can continue? They are also having to support all their Super charging stations across the country (at no additional cost for customers), etc. It's a great

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah for sure… the divorce might be cheaper long run though ROFL … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:13 PM To: af af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla 0-60 in 3.3 seconds sounds way more fun anyway... On Mon

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
85... now you are talking. 200 miles... From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla Hills and speed are your enemies. 70mph or more chews up the battery. The 2016 Leaf will probably have the 30KWH battery, the 2017 may have

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Time to buy one and put it on blocks next to my DeLorean? (just kidding, I don't have a DeLorean ... and I can't afford a Tesla) -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla He can subsidize it with his

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla

2015-08-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Do we know yet what the 2017 leaf range is supposed to be? My leaf lease is up and I am probably going to re-up for another year to get the bigger battery. -Original Message- From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla He

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