Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

2016-08-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Also, would you accept a “reel in a box” as long as the box doesn’t fall >> apart? It seems to offer the best of both worlds. >> >> >> *From:* Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:28 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reside

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2016-08-06 Thread Jeremy
uld you accept a “reel in a box” as long as the box doesn’t fall > apart? It seems to offer the best of both worlds. > > > *From:* Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > I wish

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2016-08-06 Thread Bill Prince
of both worlds. *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> *Sent:* Saturday, August 06, 2016 10:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences I wish I could find normal cat5 on a spool. It takes less room in the service veh

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2016-08-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
vans for payout. But that is for the 7 conductor power cable we use to connect the ONTs. Be nice to be able to do the same thing for CAT 5. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 8:27 AM To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences If a cable

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2016-08-06 Thread Chuck McCown
vans for payout. But that is for the 7 conductor power cable we use to connect the ONTs. Be nice to be able to do the same thing for CAT 5. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 8:27 AM To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences If a cable

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2016-08-06 Thread Adam Moffett
harm in appreciating the good aspects of a design even if it's something as mundane as cable. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/5/2016 8:43:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences I could understand if we were all usin

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2016-08-06 Thread Ken Hohhof
From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences Maybe if all radios had SFP slots and DC power inputs. /Mike Hammett ducking On 8/5/2016 6:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I've never seen a lev

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2016-08-06 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
as that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was >>>> the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. >>>> >>>> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. >>>> >>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >>>> *Sent:* Fri

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2016-08-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
I miss maybe is the stranded drain wire. I forget which Belden >>> version has that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was >>> the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. >>> >>> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. >>> >>&g

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2016-08-05 Thread George Skorup
k pretty nice. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable

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2016-08-05 Thread Joe Novak
wire. >> >> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. >> >> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >> >> thats how the belden is, soft

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2016-08-05 Thread Josh Reynolds
that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was > the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. > > The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] r

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2016-08-05 Thread George Skorup
maybe it was the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

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2016-08-05 Thread George Skorup
August 05, 2016 2:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <mailt

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2016-08-05 Thread George Skorup
y, really well. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences if i was in charge, we never would have gone away

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2016-08-05 Thread Mathew Howard
gust 05, 2016 2:21 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming across > it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wro

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2016-08-05 Thread Mathew Howard
instead of Belden, so the Shireen UTP should be fine >> also. If for some reason we wanted shielded for residential, I assume we’d >> use the DC-1042. >> >> >> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 12:53 AM >> *To:* af

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2016-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
her really, really well. > >*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > > > >*Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM > >*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com > > >*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

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2016-08-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
hey do have to admit however >>>when they go to a 10 year old install that it stands up to the >>>weather really, really well. >>>*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>*Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM >&g

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2016-08-05 Thread Jay Weekley
really well. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden

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2016-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
bottom inside that clear mylar. So while I don’t personally think the dry gel tape is nearly as effective as actual gel, it might help. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences i think its the 7919a, ill

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2016-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
installers won’t use it >> because they hate the goo. They do have to admit however when they go to a >> 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well. >> >> >> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10

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2016-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
version has that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences

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2016-08-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
to admit however when they go to a >> 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well. >> >> >> From: That One Guy /sarcasm >> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable

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2016-08-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
t; >> >> >> >> >> [image: DennisBurgessSignature] >> >> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Friday, August 5,

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2016-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
– 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Friday, August 5, 2016 2:18 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >> >

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2016-08-05 Thread chuck
BLM is still the Bureau of Land Management. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences I can't see "Primus" now without thinking of the band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg T

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2016-08-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, August 5, 2016 2:18 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > > > I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t u

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2016-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ave to admit however when they go to a > 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well. > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > i

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2016-08-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
et> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 2:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use it because they hate the goo. They do have to admit howe

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2016-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden on the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears and the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable :-) On Fri, Aug 5

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2016-08-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
.@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > > > belden something or other

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2016-08-05 Thread Joe Novak
ww.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Joe Novak" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, August 5, 2016 10:03:51 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > +1 Shireen DC1021 > > > St

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2016-08-05 Thread George Skorup
-- *From: *"Joe Novak" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, August 5, 2016 10:03:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences +1 Shireen DC1021 Storms that rolled through a couple weeks ago took some Ethernet ports with them of UBNT and EPMP. All of those

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2016-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences belden something or other was the greatest but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup < g

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2016-08-05 Thread Jeremy
rector – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM > *To:* af@afmu

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2016-08-05 Thread Daniel White
ch.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences belden something or other was the greatest but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utte

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2016-08-05 Thread Joe Novak
1042 at towers now instead of Belden, so the Shireen UTP should be fine > also. If for some reason we wanted shielded for residential, I assume we’d > use the DC-1042. > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 12:53 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

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2016-08-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
UTP should be fine also. If for some reason we wanted shielded for residential, I assume we’d use the DC-1042. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences belden something or other was the greatest

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2016-08-05 Thread Mathew Howard
---------- > *From: *"Jay Weekley" > *To: *"Animal Farm" > *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:08:45 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] residential cable preferences > > I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for > residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and > preferably pays out of a box. > >

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2016-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
ToughCable Carrier everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:08:45 PM Subject: [AFMU

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2016-08-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
belden something or other was the greatest but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Shireen DC-1021 > > > On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > >> I guess it's t

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2016-08-04 Thread George Skorup
Shireen DC-1021 On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably pays out of a box.

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2016-08-04 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm a fan of this stuff: http://www.balticnetworks.com/outdoor-cat5e-shielded-cmx-black-cable.html On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for > residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably

[AFMUG] residential cable preferences

2016-08-04 Thread Jay Weekley
I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably pays out of a box.