Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Procera :P On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > > so we got this: > "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of our data? We > have looked at the daily usage and can not figure it out. There are days > that we have been gone for several hours and the usage is V

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Torch their IP. Find the IP that is sending them lots of data. Punch that IP into bgp.he.net It will tell you who is sending the data and that normally can give them a hint. Jim Bouse Owner Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com Original message From: That One Guy /sarc

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yeah, crazy thing about that, not looking to drop multiple 10ks at once to have a nice guy on a product that quits working with the management system and is questionably legal beyond monitoring :-) On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Procera :P > > On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "T

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
"Torch their IP. Find the IP that is sending them lots of data. Punch that IP into bgp.he.net It will tell you who is sending the data and that normally can give them a hint." A. Is there a torch tool for long term monitoring, it seems real time to me" B, explain the HE thing, I have never seen an

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Huh? DPI? QoS? DDOS Protection? CGNAT? Customer Support Tools? You talk a lot about a product it doesn't seem like you've ever used. On Sep 15, 2016 8:42 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: yeah, crazy thing about that, not looking to drop multiple 10ks at once to have a nice guy on a product t

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread George Skorup
Netflow (Traffic Flow in MT speak) On 9/15/2016 8:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: "Torch their IP. Find the IP that is sending them lots of data. Punch that IP into bgp.he.net It will tell you who is sending the data and that normally can give them a hint." A. Is ther

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage "Torch their IP. Find the IP that is sending them lots of data. Punch that IP into bgp.he.net It will tell you who is sending the data and that normally can give them a hint." A. Is there a torch tool for long term monitoring, it seems re

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol, for my requested purpose other than dpi, i dont think the mutli 10k solution we were quoted was it. not being a jerk, but if the unit is on your network, how does it mitigate a ddos? will it speak with my upstream that doesnt support blackholes with bgp? is it working with powercode again si

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
We acquired several python scripts that would drop traffic on it, but they could also be configured to communicate to a router or other device via CLI or API to black hole or tarpit. One of the perks of the platform. No idea about power code. The sonar guys support it now I believe. I vacated the

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Jeremy
You can run tcpdump and filter by their IP on the BMU. It doesn't give much for details, but I have used it before at a customer's request and I was able to at least tell them what IP addresses their network was currently talking to, and run whois on them. On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:45 PM, That On

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Doesn't Untangle professional version offer these options and traffic traps? On Sep 15, 2016 9:00 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > You can run tcpdump and filter by their IP on the BMU. It doesn't give > much for details, but I have used it before at a customer's request and I > was able to at least tell

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Justin Wilson
My .02 this is a managed service type of thing. If they are asking for this then you bill at standard hourly rate. Put a transparent PFsense box on their connection with BandwidthD http://bandwidthd.sourceforge.net/ and NTopPNG. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.ne

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Daniel White
6 9:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage Procera :P On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: so we got this: "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of our data? W

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
echnologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > dwh...@converge-tech.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
ech.com >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage >> >> >> >> Procera :P

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Daniel White
-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage Well... sandvine, wind river, etc can cost more than

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Adam Moffett
can query just the AP's and get the bytes transferred for each LUID. -- Original Message -- From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 9/15/2016 10:45:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage lol, for my requested purpose other than d

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
plugged in with an Ethernet cable instead of WiFi. Plus apps run all the time on portable devices. From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage Okay so outside of my snarky response – I’d first say Sandvine is about

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have 0 funding from the > boss purse" > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White wrote: > > Sandvine :-D > > > > Daniel White > > Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales > > ConVergence Technologies > > Cell: +1 (303) 7

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage Its not something I want to drop a huge amount of time or effort into, I was hoping there was just a quick thing. We have fortigates we can drop in at the premise to log everything, but its no big deal

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I honestly don’t know the cost of the cloud control app. I think you have to pay Calix something so parents can control the router. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage I wonder if people call the water

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
they can use themselves to > answer such questions. > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage > > Its not something I want to drop a huge amount of time or effort

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
, September 16, 2016 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage I honestly don’t know the cost of the cloud control app. I think you have to pay Calix something so parents can control the router. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:26 AM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I think so, but I don’t personally provision or do support so my knowledge is from the sales pitch info. We use it and customers love it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage I guess my question is

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread SmarterBroadband
What Procera / Powercode break? Are they not working together anymore? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage lol, for my requested purpose other

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
They want to know specifically what device/IP address/MAC address on their LAN is moving a lot of traffic (like a kid's gaming PC with Steam, or an XboxOne, or whatever)? I would suggest some sort of home router that can do per device cumulative accounting like this. The $50 ubnt edgerouter has th

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
With DPI turned on (and facing LAN) all of the edgerouter models can. On Sep 16, 2016 11:26 AM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > They want to know specifically what device/IP address/MAC address on their > LAN is moving a lot of traffic (like a kid's gaming PC with Steam, or an > XboxOne, or whatever)? I

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage They want to know specifically what device/IP address/MAC address on their LAN is moving a lot of traffic (like a kid's gaming PC with Steam, or

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
This is one of my biggest issues. Customers that want to see what is going on inside their network. I have come to the conclusion, the only way to do this is a managed router solution. Years ago we found the skydog router, it was a great system. We were ready to standardize on their system, but

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
y, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM TOGs> To:af@afmug.com TOGs> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage TOGs> ᅵ TOGs> Procera :P TOGs> ᅵ TOGs> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" TOGs> wrote: TOGs> so we got this: TOGs> "Ca

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
r ᅵ Hardware Distribution Sales > > TOGs> ConVergence Technologies > > TOGs> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > TOGs> dwh...@converge-tech.com > > TOGs> ᅵ > > TOGs> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > TOGs> Sent: Thursday, Se

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread George Skorup
wrote: TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D TOGs>>> ï¿œ TOGs>>> Daniel White TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿ Hardware Distribution Sales TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590