[agi] How do I leave the group?

2019-05-17 Thread MP via AGI
Seriously though. This group is full of nothing but crackpots and jackasses. Can't figure out how to leave the group and put a stop to the constant barrage of garbage in my inbox. Get me off this shit list. Sent from ProtonMail mobile -- Artificial

Re: [agi] Mens Latina -- 2019-04-20

2019-04-20 Thread MP via AGI
his to be as important > as AGI ... and if AGI turns out to take another 100 years to crack I still > want to have an inhabitable planet. That's what I do and your penis might be > waaay longer than mine ... you still don't understand Perl code nor AGI > for shit. > > O

Re: [agi] Mens Latina -- 2019-04-20

2019-04-20 Thread MP via AGI
Arthur, can I put in a request for a mind that speaks Toki Pona? That would be really fun! Its a simple language with a simple grammer comprised of only 120 words. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Apr 20, 2019, 4:24 PM, A.T. Murray wrote: > Three days ago on

Re: [agi] Mens Latina -- 2019-04-20

2019-04-20 Thread MP via AGI
into random compiling Perl code and you would argue that it's potential AGI > ... that's how horrible you seem to be at understanding Perl and AGI. > > On 21/04/2019 00:08, MP via AGI wrote: > >> Have you even tried to read his code for yourself and tried to understand it? >

Re: [agi] Mens Latina -- 2019-04-20

2019-04-20 Thread MP via AGI
... > and again ... his code does N O T H I N G. > > If you don't understand this then maybe read some mailing list you actually > understand and don't defend spam that has been going on for decades ... > > On 20/04/2019 23:51, MP via AGI wrote: > >> Hey, at least

Re: [agi] AI breakthrough question

2019-02-26 Thread MP via AGI
I would build it, and train it to write code that performs financial stuff to help us both with a source of income for sustaining my life and for it to develop itself further. I'd keep it under wraps for a few years, and anonymously announce it in full to the world. Source code, docs, and all.

Re: [agi] Two Questions about Mentiflex...

2019-02-16 Thread MP via AGI
I honestly wouldn't mind trying to work with ATM to better convey his AI approach than his current methods. For instance, in one of his "earlier" journels, he references a "boulematic accumulator" - in normal lingo, it means neuron, like a neural network neuron. So, things like that. Maybe

Re: [agi] The future of AGI

2019-02-01 Thread MP via AGI
I don't even think it's a question of computational capacity - look at self driving cars, which took years of development with powerful servers processing terabytes of data. Yet they still crash into wall barriers. Look at any old high school dropout who wouldn't be able to understand predicate

Re: [agi] The Mud Pile of History

2019-01-31 Thread MP via AGI
It comes from one of the most fundamental aspects of higher order cognitive ability, which is synthesizing concepts from perception. IE, linking perceptual items to some kind of symbolic structure. The closest I could find that kind of accomplishes such a feat is Drescher's schema mechanism,

Re: [agi] AI as a religion

2019-01-29 Thread MP via AGI
WOTF is something more along the lines of a religion I'm talking about ccreatin. I'd join too, if there was any kind of active community. There's nothing but a few articles and that website. It feels as though it was a passing interest. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message

Re: [agi] AI as a religion

2019-01-27 Thread MP via AGI
, 2019 at 12:58 PM Costi Dumitrescu >> wrote: >> >>> Let's match a lefty philosopher king to an accomplished emperor. >>> >>> "The Sermon on the Cloud" by St Username ends in >>> >>> "[...] >>> >>> Blessed ar

[agi] AI as a religion

2019-01-27 Thread MP via AGI
So, I'm an atheist. But AI to me is the closest we have to god. Who wants in on creating a new cult of AI? Sent from ProtonMail mobile -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Arthur Murray, i need your help.

2019-01-23 Thread MP via AGI
ll things programming and AI should be allowed to spam this > list and reddit and 100 other places with his horse shit. > > Am 24/01/2019 um 05:28 schrieb MP via AGI: > >> Everything is close to AGI until one of them has been confirmed. We can't >> even agree on what AGI is or

Re: [agi] Arthur Murray, i need your help.

2019-01-23 Thread MP via AGI
only mailing list on AGI. I don't >>>> expect people here to agree on philosophical or socioeconomic issues ... >>>> but recognizing bullshit in the context of programming and AI approaches >>>> (and you can't even call it that) should be a given ... >>>> >&g

Re: [agi] Visual Commonsense Paper

2018-12-27 Thread MP via AGI
Yeah, nothing like spending a week and thousands of dollars on hardware that'll be outdated soon only to find out it doesn't work because your data was off. Yup. Love me some neural networks. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Dec 23, 2018, 1:02 AM, Stefan Reich

Re: [agi] First True AGI thinks about you.

2018-11-26 Thread MP via AGI
He suffers from psychosis and possibly schizophrenia. He should be taking his medication, but I’m not at all involved enough to know more than that. He’s a perfect example of a disease I like to call “AI crazy” - much worse than coder crazy. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at

Re: [agi] Comrade AGI

2018-09-25 Thread MP via AGI
Let’s keep meaningless politics off this list, please. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Communism is the the grate bane of our time. =( > > Suggestion: call up the old soviet national anthem and play it in the > background at medium volume. >

Re: [agi] Honestly?

2018-09-20 Thread MP via AGI
My position: Who we are is nothing more than a few billion neurons in a calcium enclosure and an annoyingly inefficient vehicle. So our intelligence, perceptions, actions, memories, and so on and so forth do indeed exist. I don’t see any reason why we can’t recreate that in silicon. Why we

Re: [agi] French startup saying they found AGI, what do you think ?

2018-09-04 Thread MP via AGI
Page not found? Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:41 PM, jaubertcedric13 via AGI wrote: > This look impressive : > > http://www.jay-cce.net/ > [Artificial General Intelligence List](https://agi.topicbox.com/latest) / AGI > /

Re: [agi] Can you predict the future with AGI or AI?

2018-08-07 Thread MP via AGI
algorithm that could do better then everyone would use it. You are going to > have equal amounts of wins and losses no matter what. > > For AGI to beat the markets it has to be smarter than not just one human but > millions of humans. > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 5:29 PM MP via AGI

Re: [agi] The reality onion...

2018-07-22 Thread MP via AGI
Allow me to propose an alternate onion, starting with the innermost layer: 1. You. 2. Your family. 3. Your race. 4. Your species. 5. All forms of life. 6. All forms of matter. 7. The spiritual self. 8. That which binds all together ad infinitum AGI would fit ether as an augmentation of layers,

Re: [agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-07-11 Thread MP via AGI
Alan, what is it about prednet that makes you think it’s conscious? What signs is it showing? What’s it doing that makes you think this? From what I see, it’s something that predicts the next video frame from the one it has been presented. There’s an NN for representation but... that’s it.

Re: [agi] Human Singularity

2018-07-09 Thread MP via AGI
I’d be very interested in such a philosophy. I’ve always had in mind that true AGI would, in time anyway, become a "deity" in a very logical sense of the word. I do revere the idea anyway... call it a religion or a cult, but it sounds like something I can sink my teeth into regardless. You can

Re: [agi] Runaway Artificial Intelligence

2018-07-04 Thread MP via AGI
Why do you still use ASCII text graphics anyway? I think it’d be a lot clearer if you used graphics similar to block diagrams instead of text. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 4:58 PM, A.T. Murray via AGI wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:11 AM, MP via AGI wr

Re: [agi] Runaway Artificial Intelligence

2018-07-04 Thread MP via AGI
Interesting narrative. I think you need more adderall, though. Give it more sci fi insanity. And for gods sake PLEASE rewrite documentation with more modern terminology. I can’t for the life of me understand it from your mental fiber constructs and things. The analogy is too far fetched. A

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-25 Thread MP via AGI
AM, Boris Kazachenko via AGI wrote: > Yeah, I thought that too. But this list is freak show, go figure. > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:42 AM Giacomo Spigler via AGI > wrote: > >> Is it only me that thinks that MP is another email controlled by AT Murray? >> >>

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-24 Thread MP via AGI
This makes more sense than it should... quite interesting to say the least. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:44 PM, A.T. Murray via AGI wrote: > MindForth Programming Journal -- 2018 June 24 > > Over the past week fifteen or twenty hours of intense work went into coding

Re: [agi] Re: MindForth is the First Working AGI for robot embodiment.

2018-06-21 Thread MP via AGI
I’ve honestly tried reading his source and explanations. He loses me at these "perpendicular mental fiber" stuff. Even with my cruddy JavaScript to Java translation I still don’t get it... but it’s something. At least it talks through a ton of weird code. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu,

Re: [agi] MindForth ACM paper -- download number 234

2018-06-17 Thread MP via AGI
Now that actually makes clear and concise sense! Thank you. That cleared up a lot for me actually. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:02 PM, A.T. Murray via AGI wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, MP via AGI wrote: > >> Believe it or not, googling "

[agi] Kurzweil and the recognizer

2018-06-14 Thread MP via AGI
In his book "How to build a mind", Kurzweil talks about how a so-called pattern recognizer is the central component of his pattern recognition theory of the mind. I would like to test his theory, because of my background in (try not to laugh) Hubbard’s dianetics and his theory of mind.

Re: [agi] The Singularity Forum

2018-06-14 Thread MP via AGI
ing "Kimera is the only company that has a working AGI, we call > it "Nigel AGI"." If they have a working AGI, why don't they give a public > demonstration and open it up to scrutiny... why keep it secret? On Thu, Jun > 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM, MP via AGI wrote

Re: [agi] The Singularity Forum

2018-06-14 Thread MP via AGI
till on track ;-) On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:09 > PM, MP via AGI wrote: > That’s a sad scenario, Ben : > > Sent from ProtonMail > Mobile > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > > I > guess whomever was paying the bills for that list (

Re: [agi] The Singularity Forum

2018-06-13 Thread MP via AGI
That’s a sad scenario, Ben : Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > I guess whomever was paying the bills for that list (KurzweilAI?) got bored > and stopped paying it...? On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Steve Richfield > via AGI wrote: > I tried

Re: [agi] SingularityNet/AGI Marketing/Adoption Strategy

2018-06-12 Thread MP via AGI
Don’t spam us with marketing nonsense. This is a place to discuss artificial minds, not selling them! Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Logan Streondj via AGI wrote: > Hi all, So I read some more of the "Beyond the Chasm" marketing book. They > talk about how ther

Re: [agi] Anyone interested in sharing your projects / data models

2018-06-11 Thread MP via AGI
Mobile On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:51 AM, YKY via AGI wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:39 PM, MP via AGI wrote: > >> It seems you’re taking a deep learning approach to the classic cognitive >> architectures - like you’re reengineering ACT-R. >> >> What’s different? Why

Re: RE: [agi] Anyone interested in sharing your projects / data models

2018-06-09 Thread MP via AGI
t; > 3 functional demos: https://agiinnovations.com/our-work-demos > > Get you free low Aigo serial#  > https://my.aigo.ai/#cg29690f51be5cb098hfae20h91ae27 > > BTW, I host FB group with >1000 members > https://www.facebook.com/groups/RealAGI/ > > From: MP vi

Re: [agi] Anyone interested in sharing your projects / data models

2018-06-09 Thread MP via AGI
My model is a genetic algorithm system based on AIXI. It’s a really lame solution to AGI, being naive and brute force, but it’s something small and simple any computer can run. I call it MINT - for minimal intelligence. I really should dig up the old java source... it’s a neat little system.

Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI.

2018-06-08 Thread MP via AGI
white paper > is one of the many components that has to be programmed. > > Please let me know. > > Rob > --------------- > > From: MP via AGI > Sent: Friday, 08 June 2018 8:34 AM > To: AGI > Subject: Re: [agi] The fo

Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI.

2018-06-08 Thread MP via AGI
Alan, would you be interested in emailing me these models? I’m an experienced coder and would love to work on it. mindpixel at proton mail dot com Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI wrote: > Alan > > Thank you for your

Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI.

2018-06-07 Thread MP via AGI
Oh sure, big critic of others work but nothing to show for it. Excuses excuses. You know you can rent not only GPU but also TPU time from google for deep learning research. And come on, there’s plenty of python docs out there. Do you even code, bro? And then we have the legendary A. T. Murray.

Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI.

2018-06-07 Thread MP via AGI
You want to call Mentalfucks a crackpot yet you seem to rant on like a paranoid lunatic yourself. At least Murray is doing something and has SOMETHING to show for his hard work. Not just angry rants. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:28 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > I'm

Re: [agi] AI Mind spares Indicative() and improves SpreadAct() mind-module.

2018-06-05 Thread MP via AGI
g a Java mind. Where's your source? Mine is here: > http://tinybrain.de/1016060 > > Stefan > > MP via AGI schrieb am Di., 5. Juni 2018 19:03: > >> John, I definitely feel the same way about the massive obscurities. I even >> tried muddling through his diagrams and

Re: [agi] AI Mind spares Indicative() and improves SpreadAct() mind-module.

2018-06-05 Thread MP via AGI
John, I definitely feel the same way about the massive obscurities. I even tried muddling through his diagrams and explanations to no avail. What I was able to do is port his ungodly bizarre code to java - literally copying and pasting with a few syntax tweaks - and got it running... somewhat.

Re: [agi] AI Mind spares Indicative() and improves SpreadAct() mind-module.

2018-06-03 Thread MP via AGI
GI wrote: > On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:24 PM, MP via AGI wrote: > >> What’s going to be done to fix this issue? > > The issue (of generating "THINK" from normal activation rather than from > SpreadAct() activation) has been fixed by the indicated "bugfix"

Re: [agi] AI Mind spares Indicative() and improves SpreadAct() mind-module.

2018-06-03 Thread MP via AGI
What’s going to be done to fix this issue? Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:21 AM, A.T. Murray via AGI wrote: > We have a problem where the AI Mind is calling Indicative() two times in a > row for no good reason. After a what-think query, the AI is supposed to call >

Re: [agi] Mind-Design: Solving who-query problems and EnParser bug.

2018-06-01 Thread MP via AGI
ATM, be honest here: do you suffer from schizophrenic disorders? Because you remind me a lot of the guy who created Temple OS - a visionary and a computer genius, lost to mental deterioration. I’ve told you I’ve ported your work to Java with some issues, and the reason I’ve done that was