John et al
Is there a truth in all of this? If you cannot see it, then you cannot see it.
Einstein could see it, how the universe operated, except for what happened
beyond the speed of light.
Can you see the consciousness at work? Can you sense and immerse in it? Can you
hear the myriad of mes
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> Is there a truth in all of this? If you cannot see it, then you cannot see it.
> Einstein could see it, how the universe operated, except for what happened
> beyond the speed of light.
There is. When it's looked a
I am definitely not understanding whatever it is you guys are saying. I am
not opposed to mystical discussions (theories that contain mysteries which
are not explainable using contemporary knowledge and which may turn out to
be wrong) but I always want to see how they relate to an AGI which might
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Bromer via AGI
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> I am definitely not understanding whatever it is you guys are saying. I am
> not
> opposed to mystical discussions (theories that contain mysteries which are not
> explainable using contemporary knowledge and which may turn out to be
>
hy such a feat would
not be possible.
Rob
From: John Rose
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2018 3:41 PM
To: agi@agi.topicbox.com
Subject: RE: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*cJohn et
alonsciousness^2 ?)
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> From: N
> -Original Message-
> From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
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> Challenging a la Haramein? No doubt. But that is what the adventure is all
> about. Have we managed to wrap our minds fully round the implications of
> Mandelbrot's contribution? And then, there is so much else of s
"Can you see the consciousness at work? Can you sense and immerse in
it? Can you hear the myriad of messages clipping by? If so, you'll
realize it is pervasive, endless, and not locality driven, not
discrete. Like the waves of the ocean, the outcome of a whole universe
conspiring to tell its tale."
b
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To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*cJohn et
alonsciousness^2 ?)
"Can you see the consciousness at work? Can you sense and immerse in
it? Can you hear the myriad of messages clipping by? If
AGI
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> et alonsciousness^2 ?)
>
> "Can you see the consciousness at work? Can you sense and immerse in
> it? Can you hear the myr
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bromer wrote:
> I don't even think that stuff is relevant.
Jim,
It's relevant if consciousness is the secret sauce. and if it applies to the
complexity problem.
Would a non-conscious entity have a reason to develop AGI?
John
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 4:15 PM wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bromer wrote:
>
> I don't even think that stuff is relevant.
>
>
> Jim,
>
> It's relevant if consciousness is the secret sauce. and if it applies to
> the complexity problem.
>
Jim is right. I don't believe i
Conscious experience - the soul or whatever it is - is not relevant to
contemporary computer science. I do not agree with the dismissal of
that feeling of experience either. As I told Marvin Minsky I do agree
that whatever conscious experience is it probably has the potential to
be explained by sci
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/science/plants-consciousness-anesthesia.html?module=Promotron®ion=Body&action=click&pgtype=article
Jim Bromer
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:01 PM Jim Bromer wrote:
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> Conscious experience - the soul or whatever it is - is not relevant to
> contemporary computer scie
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Bromer via AGI
>
>
> There are some complications of the experience of our existence, and those
> complications may be explained by the complex processes of mind.
> Since we can think we can think about the experience of life and interweave
> the strands
If you want to talk about user experience then do so (as you just
did.) Do not conflate human experience with programming constructs and
then find a tangential argument to justify it.
Jim Bromer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:21 PM John Rose wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Bromer v
sults from those
principles of success. We still have to remain pragmatic and keep it relevant
to mankind. Else, it would not be AGI in any case.
From: John Rose
Sent: Friday, 14 September 2018 6:20 PM
To: 'AGI'
Subject: RE: [agi] E=mc^2 M
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI
>
>
> It's relevant if consciousness is the secret sauce. and if it applies to the
> complexity problem.
>
> Jim is right. I don't believe in magic.
>
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