On 28 Jun 2013, at 03:56, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote:
I register.
Hello!
-- Walker
On Friday, June 28, 2013, Sgeo wrote:
I register.
Welcome back!
However, you can't register, because nobody actually deregistered you. You
remain an inactive player.
On 2 April 2013 19:55, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
I must say, I'm somewhat alarmed by the recent flood of using we to mean
I. It's a good thing we're in a Gerontocracy.
We've been doing that in
H. Speaker,
I submit the following Proposal:
===
If there is exactly one Rule which was initially numbered 112, then that
Rule is amended to Read:
The game ends at 00:04:30 UTC +1200 on June 30th, 2013, or at the time
when all adopted proposals whose voting periods concluded before that time
On 20 June 2013 22:43, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
I consider wins by paradox to fall into this category, but since they
tend to come out of nowhere and be unstoppable (typically the
undefined behavior is achieved and CFJed on in a single
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I happened to stumble across the message quoted below:
Ah! That reminds me, since we have some additional players here who I
didn't attempt to contact before: if anyone happens to have any
archives of list mail
On 28 June 2013 11:13, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I happened to stumble across the message quoted below:
Ah! That reminds me, since we have some additional players here who I
didn't attempt to contact
Here are the two proposals for what could be this final distribution.
You can still submit proposals, and if 363 passes and 364 fails, I'll
make another distribution before we go to ludicrous speed.
Voting on 348-362 is still open for another hour and a half. Full report
then.
-Dan
363
On 28 June 2013 05:49, Steven Gardner steven.gard...@monash.edu wrote:
What I'd be looking for is a ruleset which fixes bugs likes changing rule
numbers, defines simultaneity, incorporates some lessons about pragmatism in
a minimally committal way and generally leaves the rest open for players
You'll have to forgive me if I say things which seem obvious -- please
remember that I've been away for 9 years and no longer know what is common
knowledge.
I think the most basic insight is that events (such things as making
proposals, voting, transferring units of whatever media of exchange are
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:32 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
1. This is the ruleset of a nomic called Ambassador Abuse
2. There are two languages used by Ambassador Abuse: Ambabusese and English.
3. All communications to Ambassador Abuse are in Ambabusese, but the rules
themselves are in English,
4. All
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:32 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
1. This is the ruleset of a nomic called Ambassador Abuse
2. There are two languages used by Ambassador Abuse: Ambabusese and English.
3. All communications to Ambassador Abuse are in Ambabusese, but the rules
themselves are in English,
4. All
Eh, let's give this a try. I cash this promise. Whack me.
OscarMeyr
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/06/2013 9:04 PM, omd wrote:
(although I wish you would register)
I register.
I assume the office of Fool and claim my rubber chicken.
I create a
On 28 June 2013 10:47, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/06/2013 8:43 PM, Steven Gardner wrote:
On 28 June 2013 10:36, Fool fool1...@gmail.com
mailto:fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
In this case, the effect was your forfeiture (or requirement to
forfeit). It was based on events that
I cast an extra vote for 343.
It looks like I was too early with my last attempts to vote, so I again attempt
to vote:
363 FOR
364 FOR
H. Speaker Fool, I also would like to point out that I believe I gained 40
points from each of 358, 359, 360. (These presumably weren't on the lists that
Goethe sent you because I wasn't a
Sometimes you just have to be there.
Greetings,
Ørjan.
Hello old friend! I thought of you several times today. How are you?
On 28 June 2013 23:58, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no wrote:
Sometimes you just have to be there.
Greetings,
Ørjan.
--
Steve Gardner
Research Grants Development
Faculty of Business and Economics
Monash University,
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, Steven Gardner wrote:
Hello old friend! I thought of you several times today. How are you?
It's complicated.
Greetings,
Ørjan. (I haven't said this for years!)
I register as a player in Agora XX
(I hope this is how it is done.)
Greetings,
Ørjan.
Hi!
-Original Message-
From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On
Behalf Of Ørjan Johansen
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:58 AM
To: Agora Discussion List
Subject: DIS: Boo!
Sometimes you just have to be there.
Greetings,
Ørjan.
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:45 AM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/28/13 6:19 , Alex Smith wrote:
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:32 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
1. This is the ruleset of a nomic called Ambassador Abuse
2. There are two languages used by Ambassador Abuse: Ambabusese and
English.
3.
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Alexander Smith wrote:
It looks like I was too early with my last attempts to vote, so I again
attempt to vote:
363 FOR
364 FOR
H. Speaker Fool, I also would like to point out that I believe I
gained 40 points from each of 358, 359, 360. (These presumably weren't
I vote FOR 363 and do not vote on 364.
Fancy seeing you here. Hi!
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.eduwrote:
358: one of the top 10 judges (judges who have judged the most cases in
Agora).
Murphy, Goethe, scshunt, omd, ais523, [Wooble, OscarMeyr, Taral,
root, woggle]
http://cotc.psychose.ca/judges.php
Wow.
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 28 June 2013 05:49, Steven Gardner steven.gard...@monash.edu wrote:
What I'd be looking for is a ruleset which fixes bugs likes changing rule
numbers, defines simultaneity, incorporates some lessons about pragmatism in
a minimally committal
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
Path:
gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uunet!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ichips!wesc
A bang path. I haven't seen one of those in... in...
-kaydin@hmcvax.bitnet or !uunet!muddcs!jarthur!kaydin
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
358: one of the top 10 judges (judges who have judged the most cases in
Agora).
Murphy, Goethe, scshunt, omd, ais523, [Wooble, OscarMeyr, Taral,
Per rule 309, I cast an additional vote FOR proposal 364.
Chuck
Per rule 309, I cast an additional vote FOR proposal 364.
Chuck
Per rule 309, I cast an additional vote FOR proposal 364.
Chuck
I transfer 10 points to Steve.
Chuck
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to flip Ambassador Abuse's recognition
to Hostile. I also warn Ambassador Abuse that while impostors may
claim that they are the Ambassador of Agora, I am the one holding that
office at the moment.
Now don't break the game while I'm out camping. =P
~ Roujo
On Fri,
I submit a new proposal and vote FOR it:
Enact a new rule reading:
The Speaker of the second and subsequent games is the winner of the
previous game who first gave his consent to holding such a role via an
Agoran public forum during the month of May. If no such player exists,
then the Speaker of
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I submit a new proposal and vote FOR it:
Enact a new rule reading:
The Speaker of the second and subsequent games is the winner of the
previous game who first gave his consent to holding such a role via an
Agoran public forum during the month
I support.
On Jun 28, 2013 12:37 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Jonathan Rouillard
jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote:
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to flip Ambassador Abuse's recognition
to Hostile. I also warn Ambassador Abuse that
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, John Smith wrote:
I think this should be reconsidered on the grounds that:
1)The phrase is somewhat arbitrary but certainly not random. G. apparently
did not attempt to determine the meaning of the phrase in question - a Google
search should reveal why this particular
My block of proposals earned 260 points for me. Half of that is 130.
There was only one entrant to the scavenger hunt, Steve.
Steve performed with a high degree of research skill. E found
sources for all 10 answers. E didn't get a perfect score (i.e. e
didn't list every awardee in every
On Friday, June 28, 2013, Matt Berlin wrote:
If I am not registered, I register as arkestra.
You were not registered. Welcome back!
I vote AGAINST 363 and FOR 364.
Then I purchase an extra vote and vote FOR 364 one more time.
Michael
I got this email a few days ago in response to my pinging of the
ancients. I apologize for the delay in forwarding it; it got lost in
the sea of ~100 delivery failed messages.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Joshua Murphy math...@ymail.com
Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:17 PM
On 28/06/2013 10:55 AM, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
Gratuitous argument: A-D is Not A Public Forum, and is not subject to
the strictness of a PF. As long as someone makes it clear *each time*
that their potentially confusing nickname is not going to confuse Agora
play, it's okay.
(cough cough)
On 28 Jun 2013 21:32, Matt Berlin arkes...@gmail.com wrote:
If I am not registered, I register as arkestra.
If I am registered, and am considered inactive, I come off hold.
If neither of the above statements results in either a change in my
registration status or a change in my player
On 28/06/2013 9:42 AM, Steven Gardner wrote:
The point of a ban on retroactive application of a rule, especially one
which, like R345, criminalises a certain action, is to avoid a
particularly galling kind of injustice: namely, that people do things
which they rightly believe at the time are
On 28/06/2013 9:58 AM, Alexander Smith wrote:
It looks like I was too early with my last attempts to vote, so I again attempt
to vote:
363 FOR
364 FOR
It was not too early, voting started when I distributed, not when I
posted the report. And, you voted against before.
H. Speaker Fool, I
On 28/06/2013 1:07 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
I call for judgement on the following: what is above described as
proposal 364 is actually a proposal.
Argument: I find the notion of this proposal to be extremely
humiliating. It unfairly awards the game to old-timers, despite the
hard work of the
H. Speaker,
I currently have 277 points.
Am I tempted to sit tight and try for the individual win? Not for a moment.
I cast 5 additional votes for proposal 364, thereby destroying 250 points.
--
Steve Gardner
via mobile
Firstly, I think you're missing the point about injustice, Dan.
Secondly, the first part of the Canadian charter you quote is the relevant
bit here, not the second. And that part supports my argument.
--
Steve Gardner
via mobile
On 29 Jun 2013 09:14, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
On
I call for Judgement on the following statement: Blob has not forfeited.
Arguments: Punishing Blob with forfeiture for the failure of proposal 346
to pass is a retroactive application of R345, and is thus blocked by R108.
This is so because R345 was not in effect when Blob proposed P346.
--
On 28/06/2013 7:50 PM, Steven Gardner wrote:
I call for Judgement on the following statement: Blob has not forfeited.
Arguments: Punishing Blob with forfeiture for the failure of proposal
346 to pass is a retroactive application of R345, and is thus blocked by
R108. This is so because R345 was
Gratuitous arguments:
1. By this logic, I could claim that any event in the game - for example,
this CFJ being judged FALSE, or my own failure to win the game -
constitutes a penalty worse than losing and so cannot be imposed.
2. Even accepting that the loss of the game is a humiliation worse
On 28/06/2013 7:43 PM, Steven Gardner wrote:
Firstly, I think you're missing the point about injustice, Dan.
I could be, but am I really? The right protects the accused against
unjust attaint by the gov't. In the case before us, legislator and
victim are the same. He was hoist by his own
I vote against 363 (I think I have done this already, so this is just
in case I haven't).
I vote FOR 364.
As 364 is in its voting period, and I have more than 50 points,
I cast an additional vote FOR 364 (destroying 50 points).
As 364 is in its voting period, and I have more than 50 points,
I
I just noticed a contradiction in Ambassador Abuse's original rules,
between 3 and 7. Ambassador Abuse does not, and never has had, a CfJ
mechanism. So, if Ambassador Abuse's contradiction affects Agora's
gamestate, which it almost certainly does, what happens?
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM,
Ørjan, hello!
Blob
On 29/06/2013, at 12:50 AM, Chuck Carroll games...@chuckcarroll.org wrote:
Hi!
-Original Message-
From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On
Behalf Of Ørjan Johansen
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:58 AM
To: Agora Discussion List
On 28/06/2013 8:40 PM, Sgeo wrote:
I just noticed a contradiction in Ambassador Abuse's original rules,
between 3 and 7.
(Rule 7 is more specific, supercedes.)
Ambassador Abuse does not, and never has had, a CfJ mechanism.
Players of AA must resolve their differences by consensus.
So, if
Hi Blob and Chuck!
Greetings,
Ørjan.
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013, Malcolm Ryan wrote:
Ørjan, hello!
Blob
On 29/06/2013, at 12:50 AM, Chuck Carroll games...@chuckcarroll.org wrote:
Hi!
-Original Message-
From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On
Behalf Of
If I am to be hoisted, it will be *with* my petard, not by it.
For ’tis the sport to have the engineer
Hoist with his own petard:
-- Hamlet Act III, Scene IV
Blob (exploding pedant)
On 29/06/2013, at 10:18 AM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28/06/2013 7:43 PM, Steven Gardner wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Steven Gardner
steven.gard...@monash.edu wrote:
Hello old friend! I thought of you several times today. How are you?
It's like a reunion.
--Wes
(Who is now back from a week of travel with no time)
Hi Wes! And how are you?
--
Steve Gardner
via mobile
On 29 Jun 2013 11:44, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Steven Gardner
steven.gard...@monash.edu wrote:
Hello old friend! I thought of you several times today. How are you?
It's like a reunion.
On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote:
I intend, with Agoran Consent, to flip Ambassador Abuse's recognition
to Hostile.
I support, because declaring other nomics hostile is fun and we haven't done
that yet as far as I remember.
—Bànluǒ Dēngshān Zhě
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