I vote like this
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8431l Aris, ais523 1.0 Proposal Reward Trimming
FOR
8432* Aris, Alexis, Falsifian 3.0 The Administrative State
PRESENT
8433p Aris, [1]
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:09 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
wrote:
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> I vote like this
> ID Author(s)AITitle
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> 8431l Aris, ais523 1.0 Proposal Reward Trimming
> FOR
> 8432* Aris,
I'm up for it. While I agree that in a stricter sense it would be better
for it all to be in the Ruleset, this just seems a lot more fun.
It's not much but once you're ready I'll add my humble agoran occult shop
to it.
I'd maybe put up some regular shop rules (and they're extreme fringe/scam
case
On 6/10/2020 2:54 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:37 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion
wrote:
Potentially radical idea (but only once we've got started with Cards, don't
want two major reforms at once!): replace all the contract/promise/pledgy
things wi
On 6/10/20 9:14 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/10/2020 2:54 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:37 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Potentially radical idea (but only once we've got started with Cards, don't
>>> want two major
On 6/10/20 9:53 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> On 6/10/20 9:14 AM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/10/2020 2:54 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:37 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion
>>> wrote:
Potentially radical idea (but only
On 6/10/2020 7:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> 8441e nch, Trigon 1.0 Transmutation
> AGAINST. From experience, once you add a way to get any card on your own
> (even if expensive) is lessens trading.
[snip]
> Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "Transmutation" with the text:
>
> A
On 6/10/20 9:57 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> On 6/10/2020 7:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> 8441e nch, Trigon 1.0 Transmutation
>> AGAINST. From experience, once you add a way to get any card on your own
>> (even if expensive) is lessens trading.
> [snip]
>
>> En
On 6/10/2020 8:05 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> This one short sentence, if enacted, takes it from a trading and
>> commodities pricing game to just another individual farming game.
>>
> Farming requires ways to autonomously gain at least 1 resource and
> convert everything you can gain
On 6/10/20 10:08 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
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> On 6/10/2020 8:05 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> This one short sentence, if enacted, takes it from a trading and
>>> commodities pricing game to just another individual farming game.
>>>
>> Farming requires ways to autonom
On 6/10/2020 8:15 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> Because currently this is would be the only way to get Victory Cards,
> and because everyone seemed paranoid about not being able to pend and I
> proposed this as an alternative to writing a bunch of exceptions to the
> system. There is n
On 6/10/20 10:20 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> I thought the VC supply was going to be a high priority proposal put in as
> soon as auctions were proposed...? If you aren't working on that I'm
> happy to do so.
I'm not working on any proposals, because the ruleset is currently s
On 6/10/20 11:42 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> [Submitting because Sets could be resolved at any time and I want to beat
> that clock. If there are bugs I will try to withdraw/resubmit in time].
I'm waiting at least until the zombie auction is resolved & the two lots
are claimed to
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
>
>
> [Submitting because Sets could be resolved at any time and I want to beat
> that clock. If there are bugs I will try to withdraw/resubmit in time].
This actually raises an interesting question: wouldn't it be
economical
On 6/10/2020 8:42 AM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>> 8436f Aris 2.0 Stately Officiation
> AGAINST; I actually think timely should be *more* explicit, rules should
> say how long time limits are. There's some things, like recuse a judge,
> where it's entirely implicit th
On 6/10/2020 8:45 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/10/20 11:42 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>> [Submitting because Sets could be resolved at any time and I want to beat
>> that clock. If there are bugs I will try to withdraw/resubmit in time].
>
>
> I'm waiting at
On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
>> [Submitting because Sets could be resolved at any time and I want to beat
>> that clock. If there are bugs I will try to withdraw/resu
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:59 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-official wrote:
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald of Agora
>
> To All To Whom these Presents shall come or whom the same may in any
> way concern,
>
> A Proclamation
>
> WHEREAS, on the sixth day of June in the Ye
On 6/10/20 11:01 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
> (I considered using Latin formulations in the style of the Ancient
> Universities, but out of a respect for G. and a desire not to delay
> the issuance of the Degree, I have used the above language modified
> from
I prefer English as well. I think English is just more practical too, being
the most accessible language to most here. While things can be fancier, I
think being accessible should be a priority because people should
understand what is going on without headaches (and fear of Apathy scams or
stuff).
On 6/10/2020 9:01 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> I should also note that this copy reproduces the erroneous use of
> "before" in place of "after". In private discussions, G. had agreed to
> this being corrected, but it is my fault that the wrong version was
> sent. The erroneous par
On 6/10/20 12:47 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
>
> I raise a banner!
>
> (Super Mario music plays)
>
Congratulations!
--
Jason Cobb
I've been rattling this idea around in my mind for a bit. I decided to
put together a proto-proposal to see what others think.
Title: Amulets ver. 0.1
AI: 1.0
Author: ATMunn
Co-author(s):
Enact a power-1 rule entitled "Amulets" with the following text:
Amulets are a class of assets, tracked
GG, G.
On 6/10/2020 12:47 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
I raise a banner!
(Super Mario music plays)
On 2020-06-10 10:01, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
(I considered using Latin formulations in the style of the Ancient
Universities, but out of a respect for G. and a desire not to delay
the issuance of the Degree, I have used the above language modified
from Alexis.
On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
[Submitting because Sets could be resolved at any time and I want to beat
that clock.
On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
>> agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
>>> wrote:
[Submit
> On Jun 10, 2020, at 15:07, nch via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
>
>> On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
>>> agora-discussion wrote:
On Wed,
On 6/10/2020 12:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
>>> agora-discussion wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:4
On 6/10/2020 12:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 6/10/2020 12:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On We
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
>
> I raise a banner!
>
> (Super Mario music plays)
First Renaissance win in years. Come to think of it, possibly the first win in
years that was neither a scam, nor an exploi
wait how did e get the purple ribbon? Bögtil
Den ons 10 juni 2020 kl 21:30 skrev Alex Smith via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via
> agora-business wrote:
> > I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
> >
> > I raise a banne
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 20:07:05 GMT+1, nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I actually meant that out of mild frustration. Sets hasn't started and
> we're about to pass a gameplay tweak meant to 'fix' something that's
> supposedly wrong with it, and it's frustrating to see that the first
> thi
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
> > I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
> >
> > I raise a banner!
> >
> > (Super Mario music plays)
>
> First Renaissance win in years. Com
On 2020-06-10 13:30, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
I award myself an Indigo ribbon.
I raise a banner!
(Super Mario music plays)
First Renaissance win in years. Come to think of it, possibly the fir
On 6/10/20 2:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> On 6/10/2020 12:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/10/20 10:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticu
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 20:35:09 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 17:52:30 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > wrote:
> > > I award myself an
On 6/10/2020 12:39 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/10/20 2:17 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 6/10/2020 12:06 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 6/10/20 1:23 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
On 2020-06-10 09:51, nch via agora-discussion wrote
On 6/10/20 2:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> Of course, "not writing proposals until the new system is tested" was part
> of the reason I voted against transmutation;)
In my defense (against my own arguments), the proto for transmutation
was sent to a-d before Sets 1.3/1.4 were
On 6/10/20 2:34 PM, Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 20:07:05 GMT+1, nch via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> I actually meant that out of mild frustration. Sets hasn't started and
>> we're about to pass a gameplay tweak meant to 'fix' something that's
>> suppo
indigo; and e got it because e published a thesis and earned a degree.
On 6/10/2020 3:33 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-discussion wrote:
wait how did e get the purple ribbon? Bögtil
Den ons 10 juni 2020 kl 21:30 skrev Alex Smith via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>:
On
Congrats!!
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:06 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> indigo; and e got it because e published a thesis and earned a degree.
>
> On 6/10/2020 3:33 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-discussion wrote:
> > wait how did e get the purple ribb
On 6/10/2020 1:05 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
> indigo; and e got it because e published a thesis and earned a degree.
>
> On 6/10/2020 3:33 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-discussion wrote:
>> wait how did e get the purple ribbon? Bögtil
>>
lol, with all the proposals flying around,
I think this version responds to all of the the feedback I've recieved.
I'm still welcoming more, but I would like to have this out before the
economy change.
League of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping
## SECTION 0: DEFINITIONS ##
When this contract refers to an Officer, it is con
On 6/10/20 3:33 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
>> Any new system always starts with the scams and exploits and rule
> lawyering
>
> And that's undesirable, yes? Well, good thing we're playing a nomic, so
> words basically have magical abstract powers - let's just ban scams on new
> stu
On 6/10/20 4:33 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
>
> Enact the following rule "Rule Infancy":
> An Infant Rule is a Rule that has been added to the Ruleset within the
> last 90 days. Persons CANNOT perform a scam that relies on an Infant Rule.
>
This can only override "CAN"s i
What is AIAN or DADA?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:41 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 6/10/20 4:33 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote:
> >
> > Enact the following rule "Rule Infancy":
> > An Infant Rule is a Rule that has been added to t
On 6/10/20 4:42 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
> What is AIAN or DADA?
AIAN: Agora Is A Nomic, Rule 1698
DADA (I thought this was used recently, maybe not): Defense Against the
Dark Arts, Rule 2617
--
Jason Cobb
"Agora Is A Nomic" and "Defense Against the Dark Arts".
Two rules that prevent Agora from being unable to be modified.
On 2020-06-10 14:42, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
What is AIAN or DADA?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:41 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranom
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> What is AIAN or DADA?
Agora is A Nomic and Defense Against the Dark Arts, our two
anti-ossification rules. The former makes it impossible to ossify the game
and the later punishes people
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:46 PM Rebecca via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I point my finger at Cuddlebeam
>
> Literally everything in eir most recent contract constitutes Faking,
> specifically by intentionally misleading Agorans into believing that eir
> items would have any effect for profit.
>
> --
On 2020-06-10 15:58, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:32 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:28 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
wrote:
On 2020-06-10 15:22, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
I ossif
This is a very early proto, but I figured I'd throw it out there for
consideration while other criminal reforms are being discussed.
The idea is:
* Shenanigans is a 0+X crime, where X is the number of times in the last
7 days e has previously committed Shenanigans.
* The player who did the mos
On 6/10/20 6:12 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Within 10 days but no less than 4 days after
>> the indictment has been issued, the judge SHALL initiate two Agoran
>> Decisions, one to determine whether to convict the perpetrator and
>> one to determine whether to accept th
On 2020-06-10 16:14, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
On 6/10/20 6:12 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
Within 10 days but no less than 4 days after
the indictment has been issued, the judge SHALL initiate two Agoran
Decisions, one to determine whether to convict the p
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:12 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 2020-06-10 15:58, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:32 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:28 PM Reuben Staley vi
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:14 PM nch via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> This is a very early proto, but I figured I'd throw it out there for
> consideration while other criminal reforms are being discussed.
>
> The idea is:
>
> * Shenanigans is a 0+X crime, where X is the number of times in the last
>
On 6/10/20 6:21 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I'd be interested in both of these proposals, but I think that there
> should be some number, probably 1, of free Shenanigans because I don't
> want to be in a position where I have to punish someone regardless of
> t
On 6/10/20 5:24 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 6/10/20 6:21 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> I'd be interested in both of these proposals, but I think that there
>> should be some number, probably 1, of free Shenanigans because I don't
>> want
On 6/10/2020 3:26 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:06 PM nch wrote:
>> On 6/10/20 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>> I ossify Agora.
>>>
>> I point my finger at G. for Faking. At least one person believed e had
>> ossified Agora, and acted
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
>
>
> I intend to deputize for the Prime Minister to appoint myself to the
> office of Speaker.
I was planning on waiting for the Herald to certify the win before
appointing you; if e doesn't do it soonish, I'll go ahead and gi
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020, 22:42:06 GMT+1, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:46 PM Rebecca via agora-business
> wrote:
> >
> > I point my finger at Cuddlebeam
> >
> > Literally everything in eir most recent contract constitutes Faking,
> >
On 6/10/2020 3:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>
>> I intend to deputize for the Prime Minister to appoint myself to the
>> office of Speaker.
>
> I was planning on waiting for the Herald to certify the win before
> appoin
I would suspect that between the two of them, nch has the more seniority
(and is an officeholder)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:14 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:04 PM Rebecca via agora-official
> wrote:
> >
> > I initiate an agoran decisio
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I would suspect that between the two of them, nch has the more seniority
> (and is an officeholder)
>
Both true! nch also just wrote our economy, and I have great respect for
em. But I've disa
On 6/10/20 8:33 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> I would suspect that between the two of them, nch has the more seniority
> (and is an officeholder)
Honestly I don't particularly have a strong preference either way and I
could probably justify placing either over the other to myself, tho
not sure three words have never made me laugh more
On 6/10/2020 5:22 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
I ossify Agora.
*ever
On 6/10/2020 9:46 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
not sure three words have never made me laugh more
On 6/10/2020 5:22 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
I ossify Agora.
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